S.E. Cupp: "Athiests are out of touch"

Most atheist's arguments are straw man arguments.


They take the comments of ignorant 'believers' and apply that to ALL believers.

Then they bring up crusades and how religion has been used to kill people- but the fact is, without religion there would have been another reason they'd find to hate and kill.

Look at America. Here, the primary means of categorization is race. So we discriminate and kill based on that.

Overseas in countries where everyone is the same race, it's religion and where you're born or living.

And you can't believe that those who use religion for nefarious purposes signifies that religion is inherently bad.

When used properly it can be used to inspire, to create. But throughout history you've had people in positions of power who use it for THEIR gain, and not for others.

Hell it's like white people who base their perception of black people on the rotten group, then assume every black person is like that.

I'm sure you black atheists get mad about people who do that. Go figure.

Cosign
 
You're going to have to prove your delusion, oops, I mean "spirituality" some way in order for the masses to understand WTF it is you are talking about, because your word is meaningless.

If I posted a thread talkin about I saw a ghost, you niggas would want pics, video footage, interviews with the ghost, etc. But I'm suppose to just "take a leap of faith" and believe your spirituality isn't a form of mental illness? :lol: You can't prove nor convey ANY of these spiritual happenings but I and others are suppose to just believe you are of sound mind because YOU said so? But in the same breath you'd be the same nigga grillin the next nigga for proof.

GTFOH.

"Proof" is not the problem. Your closed mind is the problem.

U have to look beyond debates for fun and brownie points and look deep into human behavior and the reasons and motivations behind why humans choose to do and believe what they will. There is always a reason. That reason is always emotional.

There are 3 factors that come into play in matters of faith that will dictate how a person decides to view spirituality:

(1) Honesty (2) Hunger and (3) Humility

If a person is lying to themselves to rationalize or condone their beliefs or behavior then it's a moot point.
If a person is not spiritually hungry at this time then the juiciest most delicious steak will do them no good.
If a person is too proud to submit to a Supreme Intelligence then they will staunchly refuse to submit to any divine authority.

What good will proof do for any of these underlying emotional reasons? They will just continue to poke holes in anything u present for their own personal reasons.

If a person sincerely wants proof and seeks it then they will find what they are looking for and will thoroughly check the practicality, effectiveness and solid backing of their findings.

As far as proof that is of course a must if the person wants to make an intelligent decision. Proof should follow the following criteria:

(1) Scientific proof
(2) Historical proof
(3) Prophetic proof
(4) Unity, consistency and congruency of thought

But again what good does any of that do if your mind is already closed and made up?

I myself am open to any atheistic, philosophical or religous answers to those age old questions mentioned earlier. Why? Because those questions deserve honest answers and I am not the first to ask them and won't be the last to ask them. They will always be asked by intelligent thinking and reasoning individuals for eternity.
 
:(:smh::(:smh::(:smh::(

I'm not atheist, I am agnostic, feel better about my life than ever!!!!!!!!

That article is a BIG OPINION and that is WHY I am proud to be agnostic!:cool:

Fools waste their short precious lives worrying about the feeling religion
and strict beliefs box you into believing:smh::smh::smh:
 
Last edited:
"Proof" is not the problem.

It is. You wrote all that bullshit just to state the simple fact that you can't prove your delusions to others, and that's it.

Go apply for a loan and tell the bank that they need to take a "leap of faith" that you have the means to pay it back while showing them no hard proof that you can do such and see what happens. :lol:
 
And all xtian asswipes do is shit on non xtians 25/7.

If you're an Atheists you will go to hell
If you are a Muslim you will got to hell
If you are a Buddhist you will go to hell
If you are Hindu you will go to hell

But these assholes have the nerve to get hyper sensitive because they are getting exposed for the retarded knuckle draggers they really are? :lol:

It just doesn't matter what you believe in so much that it propels or hinders what you do in this life.

Eden=Earth=Heaven=Hell

If you build a life or belief system based on hate, you will make this world hell for yourself and fail to build anything for yourself the next time around.
 
The fact that I don't believe rape and killing of innocent people should be a act of mystery, in my mind makes my morality better then your gods

sent from the Evo trick !!!
 
you can't prove your delusions to others

U just proved my point. Your mind is closed so u keep seeking physical tangible laboratory evidence for the intangible. I have talked to hundreds of atheists down through the years and most will just keep poking holes and ignore the real problem.

Read again. 4 Points. Scientific, prophetic, historical and unity of thought.

This is a cumulative process that has to have an honest foundation. There is nothing to dodge. Where do u want to start? As an atheist I would guess science. U want to start with the scientific field?

Remember this is a process. If ur mind is bent on poking holes then it will be fruitless but if u want to go there let's start with the scientific field.

Let's start with The Big bang first before dodging into the formation of life and living tissue. If u have the truth regarding just the big bang theory alone then please enlighten me.
 
As an Atheist(a minor dimension to my personality), I would say I AM out of touch . . . with theist quackery, or quackery of most kinds anyway(and I'm honest about that). Live and let live I say . . . But almost nowhere in the western world can you cut a fart without some presumtuous 'believer' assuming you walk the same 'path'("bless you", "amen", "amma pray for you", "have a blessed day", "place your trust in god, son", "accept the holy spirit", "It's a miracle"). And let's not forget ALL of the symbolism, and imagery inundating secularists folks everyday.


Hell YEAH, some atheist can be mean to theist. Muthafukas get TIRED of your tired ass projections. On the other hand, theist and atheists are mean to everyone at some point. So this tired ass back and forth is a bunch of Kabuki theatre. FUCK WHAT YOU BELIEVE YOU KNOW . . . WHAT DO YOU KNOW?

I address people as people . . . not the social/cultural bs that they ID themselves by. Some of my favorite people are 'true believers'. But we respect each other on a human level. I'm a human being before ANY other designation. And THAT'S the common basis upon which I relate to anyone. Thing is, each side (if you so strongly ally with a 'team', personally I don't) believes they know, or feel best about the god question. However, Atheists on balance, aren't proselytizing and nation building and promoting a cultural agenda through a global network of churches, temples, synagogues, mosques, televangelism, radio, public policy lobbyism, ENTIRE DAYS, nationally for YOUR observances, etc.

And after ALL that, you RELIGIOUS kats seem to be OBLIVIOUS to this widespread, deeply entrenched permeation and intrusion of YOUR ideals projected the world over . . . and ATHEISTS are the 'problem'???!!!!

And you 'spiritual' muthafuckas crack me up. At least religion means 'something' that has a definition. I have YET to see a SINGLE one of you, "I'm not religious...I'm spiritual" folks, define anything that constitutes an organizing principal that amounts to a modicum of sense.

I see no difference AT ALL between you folks and the 'BORG'. Str8 fiction . . . of the most dangerous and subversive kind. Look up tyranny of the majority. That is YOU.

And as much as you folks like to 'compare' one to another. You FAIL on it's face.

Because your basic perception of existence BEGINS with and ENDS with your deity. I have NO such proclivities simply because I don't have a need to fill up my deficits in info/knowledge with a fabricated CONCEPT of a deity that resolves the questions I can't answer myself. Forgive the broad stroke, but spare me the fake humility. ARROGANCE is in your SOUL. :lol:


I tend to avoid these threads, because they're too low brow, and NEVER end in growth. So I will leave you all to circle jerk each other as you build page after page, "co-signing,"taberbacle-ing", and "chuuuch-ing" each other. . . as you miss and misunderstand the point. Atheist or not, the 'space' for a secularist is virtually impossible thanks to your zeal, and I suspect, quiet anxieties aimed at tamping down life's realities; resulting in this NEED to convert people, or silence the outliers. . . just so YOU can feel 'good'.

So it seems, it's Not about deities and systems of belief . . . but your own immature confrontation and struggle with your meaningless mortality and brief human existence. Death is as CERTAIN as LIFE. I embrace both. It's what you do between these bookended states that matters(imo). Anyhow, look around, THIS is YOUR world. Good job!!:lol:

JG
 
As an Atheist(a minor dimension to my personality), I would say I AM out of touch . . . with theist quackery, or quackery of most kinds anyway(and I'm honest about that). Live and let live I say . . . But almost nowhere in the western world can you cut a fart without some presumtuous 'believer' assuming you walk the same 'path'("bless you", "amen", "amma pray for you", "have a blessed day", "place your trust in god, son", "accept the holy spirit", "It's a miracle"). And let's not forget ALL of the symbolism, and imagery inundating secularists folks everyday.


Hell YEAH, some atheist can be mean to theist. Muthafukas get TIRED of your tired ass projections. On the other hand, theist and atheists are mean to everyone at some point. So this tired ass back and forth is a bunch of Kabuki theatre. FUCK WHAT YOU BELIEVE YOU KNOW . . . WHAT DO YOU KNOW?

I address people as people . . . not the social/cultural bs that they ID themselves by. Some of my favorite people are 'true believers'. But we respect each other on a human level. I'm a human being before ANY other designation. And THAT'S the common basis upon which I relate to anyone. Thing is, each side (if you so strongly ally with a 'team', personally I don't) believes they know, or feel best about the god question. However, Atheists on balance, aren't proselytizing and nation building and promoting a cultural agenda through a global network of churches, temples, synagogues, mosques, televangelism, radio, public policy lobbyism, ENTIRE DAYS, nationally for YOUR observances, etc.

And after ALL that, you RELIGIOUS kats seem to be OBLIVIOUS to this widespread, deeply entrenched permeation and intrusion of YOUR ideals projected the world over . . . and ATHEISTS are the 'problem'???!!!!

And you 'spiritual' muthafuckas crack me up. At least religion means 'something' that has a definition. I have YET to see a SINGLE one of you, "I'm not religious...I'm spiritual" folks, define anything that constitutes an organizing principal that amounts to a modicum of sense.

I see no difference AT ALL between you folks and the 'BORG'. Str8 fiction . . . of the most dangerous and subversive kind. Look up tyranny of the majority. That is YOU.

And as much as you folks like to 'compare' one to another. You FAIL on it's face.

Because your basic perception of existence BEGINS with and ENDS with your deity. I have NO such proclivities simply because I don't have a need to fill up my deficits in info/knowledge with a fabricated CONCEPT of a deity that resolves the questions I can't answer myself. Forgive the broad stroke, but spare me the fake humility. ARROGANCE is in your SOUL. :lol:


I tend to avoid these threads, because they're too low brow, and NEVER end in growth. So I will leave you all to circle jerk each other as you build page after page, "co-signing,"taberbacle-ing", and "chuuuch-ing" each other. . . as you miss and misunderstand the point. Atheist or not, the 'space' for a secularist is virtually impossible thanks to your zeal, and I suspect, quiet anxieties aimed at tamping down life's realities; resulting in this NEED to convert people, or silence the outliers. . . just so YOU can feel 'good'.

So it seems, it's Not about deities and systems of belief . . . but your own immature confrontation and struggle with your meaningless mortality and brief human existence. Death is as CERTAIN as LIFE. I embrace both. It's what you do between these bookended states that matters(imo). Anyhow, look around, THIS is YOUR world. Good job!!:lol:

JG




^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^​



*edit*

for the record spirituality is about goin within urself to find answers
unfortunatly some take what they learn and start religions:smh:
 
Last edited:
it's Not about deities and systems of belief . . . but your own immature confrontation and struggle with your meaningless mortality and brief human existence. Death is as CERTAIN as LIFE. I embrace both. It's what you do between these bookended states that matters(imo). Anyhow, look around, THIS is YOUR world. Good job!!:lol:

JG

Now this is the real issue. Be honest about WHY u feel the way u feel and believe. Without that u r just looking for a pet cause to make yourself feel better. U then want to judge everyone else or save everyone else.

U want to be the big time atheist dude superior to everyone else with all of your intellect.

U want to be the big time church dude judging everyone else feeling superior because u rsaved. U may also want to eventually control or destroy everyone else or scam everyone out of their money.

U see the underlying common thread here? What does any of that have to do with the eternity of existence and the universe?
 
:lol: at all of these atheists trying to bully everybody on this thread.
Taking shots at agnostics for not caring about your silly ass feud with the bible thumpers? :lol:
You mutha fuckas are stressed the fuck out. You Bill Maher types have your heads so far up your own asses that you can't even realize that none of that shit matters.
Its not important that someone believe you. That's your arrogance.

Question: What do you want to do in your life that someone ELSE believing in a deity has kept you from?

I don't know about you lame bastids but I don't let what the fuck others do interfere with my shit.
Barring that, I don't give a fuck about none of that bullshit.
People saying "bless you" and shit like that doesn't bother me and never will. I'm a grown ass man who realizes that I'm not the only mofo on this earth and other people have different views from my own. That's just the way it is. There will ALWAYS be religion of some sort. There will ALWAYS be atheism.
And there will always be people who don't give a fuck.
Learn it, live it and love it, bitches. :D
 
Most of us Atheists and Agnostics don't care if religious folks need fairy tales to get through life. It's when they try to use their fairy tales to dictate social policy when we have a problem, and let's face it, this country has too many religious nuts(Republicans).

Worship your fairy tales in your home or church and leave it there.

I'm an Atheist, but people around me know it only when they bring up fairy tales. No fairy tales brought up, you can go your whole life without knowing I don't believe in sky fairies. If only most religious people would show us he same courtesy.

 
As an Atheist(a minor dimension to my personality), I would say I AM out of touch . . . with theist quackery, or quackery of most kinds anyway(and I'm honest about that). Live and let live I say . . . But almost nowhere in the western world can you cut a fart without some presumtuous 'believer' assuming you walk the same 'path'("bless you", "amen", "amma pray for you", "have a blessed day", "place your trust in god, son", "accept the holy spirit", "It's a miracle"). And let's not forget ALL of the symbolism, and imagery inundating secularists folks everyday.


Hell YEAH, some atheist can be mean to theist. Muthafukas get TIRED of your tired ass projections. On the other hand, theist and atheists are mean to everyone at some point. So this tired ass back and forth is a bunch of Kabuki theatre. FUCK WHAT YOU BELIEVE YOU KNOW . . . WHAT DO YOU KNOW?

I address people as people . . . not the social/cultural bs that they ID themselves by. Some of my favorite people are 'true believers'. But we respect each other on a human level. I'm a human being before ANY other designation. And THAT'S the common basis upon which I relate to anyone. Thing is, each side (if you so strongly ally with a 'team', personally I don't) believes they know, or feel best about the god question. However, Atheists on balance, aren't proselytizing and nation building and promoting a cultural agenda through a global network of churches, temples, synagogues, mosques, televangelism, radio, public policy lobbyism, ENTIRE DAYS, nationally for YOUR observances, etc.

And after ALL that, you RELIGIOUS kats seem to be OBLIVIOUS to this widespread, deeply entrenched permeation and intrusion of YOUR ideals projected the world over . . . and ATHEISTS are the 'problem'???!!!!

And you 'spiritual' muthafuckas crack me up. At least religion means 'something' that has a definition. I have YET to see a SINGLE one of you, "I'm not religious...I'm spiritual" folks, define anything that constitutes an organizing principal that amounts to a modicum of sense.

I see no difference AT ALL between you folks and the 'BORG'. Str8 fiction . . . of the most dangerous and subversive kind. Look up tyranny of the majority. That is YOU.

And as much as you folks like to 'compare' one to another. You FAIL on it's face.

Because your basic perception of existence BEGINS with and ENDS with your deity. I have NO such proclivities simply because I don't have a need to fill up my deficits in info/knowledge with a fabricated CONCEPT of a deity that resolves the questions I can't answer myself. Forgive the broad stroke, but spare me the fake humility. ARROGANCE is in your SOUL. :lol:


I tend to avoid these threads, because they're too low brow, and NEVER end in growth. So I will leave you all to circle jerk each other as you build page after page, "co-signing,"taberbacle-ing", and "chuuuch-ing" each other. . . as you miss and misunderstand the point. Atheist or not, the 'space' for a secularist is virtually impossible thanks to your zeal, and I suspect, quiet anxieties aimed at tamping down life's realities; resulting in this NEED to convert people, or silence the outliers. . . just so YOU can feel 'good'.

So it seems, it's Not about deities and systems of belief . . . but your own immature confrontation and struggle with your meaningless mortality and brief human existence. Death is as CERTAIN as LIFE. I embrace both. It's what you do between these bookended states that matters(imo). Anyhow, look around, THIS is YOUR world. Good job!!:lol:

JG

You said a whole bunch of nothing. Most religious People don't substitute a Knowledge deficit with "deity" to fill up some empty Space. Of course Arrogance is in everyones Soul... the Question is are you gonna let that shit enslave you or are U gonna be Man enough to Control your Arrogance. Then again since U claim to be atheist howcome you even mention the Term "Soul" in the first place?

Secondly if in Your Opinion Existence is meaningless, why should it matter in any Form or Fashion what one does between Birth and Death? Since it's meaningless it shouldn't make a diffrence right?

Care to Answer?
 
You said a whole bunch of nothing. Most religious People don't substitute a Knowledge deficit with "deity" to fill up some empty Space.

Don't be so ridiculous . . . Marv. You responded because I said SOMETHING! I mean really? So, you've met the 'creator'? You know the source of existence? Fascinating, care to introduce us to your . . . elusive, but oh so powerful associate? I ask, because I was raised by 'god loving' folks. And my experience is EXACTLY as I stated. God/Allah/whatever IS the answer to their existential questions. You still disagree? Cool.


Of course Arrogance is in everyones Soul... the Question is are you gonna let that shit enslave you or are U gonna be Man enough to Control your Arrogance.


Ahh, NOW "arrogance is in EVERYBODY'S SOUL", huh? Look, religious fervor dominates the globe with rife entitlement. Has been for millenia, yet ATHEISTS have a monopoly on arrogance? Did you read the article or my entire comment? C'mon, I wrote a few short paragraphs. I'll take your reply seriously, when you seriously read AND comprehend what I wrote. Fair? I mean, man, the op-ed is about how arrogant and obstructive atheists are . . . but that mirror never seems to capture the face of the claimant. Well, I thought I help you guys out since there seems to be a paucity of mirrors.



Then again since U claim to be atheist howcome you even mention the Term "Soul" in the first place?

Struck a nerve? Apparently the irony was lost on you. Too bad, I thought the OBVIOUS, unstoppable laughing emoticon after the word "Soul" was a dead give away. . . see---> :lol: still funny imo, and it gets louder the more I think of it.

Secondly if in Your Opinion Existence is meaningless, why should it matter in any Form or Fashion what one does between Birth and Death? Since it's meaningless it shouldn't make a diffrence right?



Care to Answer?

How's this for starters? Since humans are the ONLY species that 'make' meaning, the real question is what did my comment mean to you, personally? Because that's the only reason why you'd respond to my comment in the 1st place, right? I stated facts. What are you offering, discussion or worthless jabs?

The 'meaning' of anything depends on the individual. Individuals can form groups based on their 'agreement' about the meaning of things. These groups also, have power and influence by pooling together resources (time, money, services, etc.)to realize a goal. More members, more money, more influence = more power. Power to influence policy, which can in turn become an impediment, or facilitator to ones personal pursuit(esp. if one is outside said group). To the extent that ANY groups pursuits are counter to my own, is a concern. But meaning? If by that word you mean potential outcomes/consequences . . . well, lots can happen, both good and bad within that context. I know, I know, everyone thinks they're the 'good guys'. And what I said could apply to any group. Except, NO ideals are as enmeshed socially or politically as those based on religion. And no one violates those ideals more than the religious. There's more of that irony again . . . oh, and :lol:



JG
 
cosign to the fullest.

on another note, JD Walker responded to someone saying atheists arent a church, we dont assemble, get together, etc...and RIGHT underneath his comment is a big ass link to where Black atheists MEET...

:lol:

:roflmao2::roflmao2::roflmao2:
 
Don't be so ridiculous . . . Marv. You responded because I said SOMETHING! I mean really? So, you've met the 'creator'? You know the source of existence? Fascinating, care to introduce us to your . . . elusive, but oh so powerful associate? I ask, because I was raised by 'god loving' folks. And my experience is EXACTLY as I stated. God/Allah/whatever IS the answer to their existential questions. You still disagree? Cool.




Ahh, NOW "arrogance is in EVERYBODY'S SOUL", huh? Look, religious fervor dominates the globe with rife entitlement. Has been for millenia, yet ATHEISTS have a monopoly on arrogance? Did you read the article or my entire comment? C'mon, I wrote a few short paragraphs. I'll take your reply seriously, when you seriously read AND comprehend what I wrote. Fair? I mean, man, the op-ed is about how arrogant and obstructive atheists are . . . but that mirror never seems to capture the face of the claimant. Well, I thought I help you guys out since there seems to be a paucity of mirrors.




Struck a nerve? Apparently the irony was lost on you. Too bad, I thought the OBVIOUS, unstoppable laughing emoticon after the word "Soul" was a dead give away. . . see---> :lol: still funny imo, and it gets louder the more I think of it.


How's this for starters? Since humans are the ONLY species that 'make' meaning, the real question is what did my comment mean to you, personally? Because that's the only reason why you'd respond to my comment in the 1st place, right? I stated facts. What are you offering, discussion or worthless jabs?

The 'meaning' of anything depends on the individual. Individuals can form groups based on their 'agreement' about the meaning of things. These groups also, have power and influence by pooling together resources (time, money, services, etc.)to realize a goal. More members, more money, more influence = more power. Power to influence policy, which can in turn become an impediment, or facilitator to ones personal pursuit(esp. if one is outside said group). To the extent that ANY groups pursuits are counter to my own, is a concern. But meaning? If by that word you mean potential outcomes/consequences . . . well, lots can happen, both good and bad within that context. I know, I know, everyone thinks they're the 'good guys'. And what I said could apply to any group. Except, NO ideals are as enmeshed socially or politically as those based on religion. And no one violates those ideals more than the religious. There's more of that irony again . . . oh, and :lol:



JG

Ok....in case U were playing off my Name in this Forum it's "ri-K-dicoules" not "ridiculous". But anyways...Have i met the Creator? No, I believe I havent.
Do I know the Source of all Existence? Again, No! But I believe in the Existence of a Source as does the majority of Theorists in the Field of Cosmic Evolution Research.
Do I care to "introduce" you all to the Creator I believe in? I take it thats some of that irony or whatever U are dishing out,huh? :lol: No I dont. When I ask most Atheists I've come across to give an example as to what they would consider as Proof of Gods existence....I get either blank stares or some outrageous Answer that I can't even take serious. Now if U were raised around and by God loving Folks, then U are speaking from Personal experience and I cannot argue with that....The things U wrote did not strike a nerve with me at all I just disagree with the GENERELIZATION-Spin that was put onto some of the Stuff u mentioned.

I have my Faith and it's principles that I try to adhere to, to the best of my Ability, there are good Days and bad Days. I don't think I am "better" than any other being especially not because they might have diffrent Beliefs or no Beliefs at all.To me it all boils down to deeds and the intentions behind them.

By me stating that Arrogance is in EVERYBODYS Soul i am knowingly in direct disagreance with the OP! Thats something I always believed in. I guess alotta Times Arrogance serves as some sort of Defense-Mechanism for a Person when their Beliefs are being attacked....
I don't think Atheists have a Monopoly on Arrogance......but Assholes do! :lol:
 
You know what I find funny??

Some athiests are quick to debate how evil the church actually is and use examples of the 15th century Crusades and so forth but when you bring up African Americans and 18th century slavery they say 'get over it ... that happened so long ago" ...



c/s

imo a lot of atheists think because they are informed they can be disrespectful ... but they are also believers ... because there is no proof we all believe in something

Super Co-sign. I'm informed too, and most atheists I meet seem to be lacking information. Mis-communication can change alot in a person's life.
 
I have my Faith and it's principles that I try to adhere to, to the best of my Ability, there are good Days and bad Days. I don't think I am "better" than any other being especially not because they might have diffrent Beliefs or no Beliefs at all.To me it all boils down to deeds and the intentions behind them.

By me stating that Arrogance is in EVERYBODYS Soul i am knowingly in direct disagreance with the OP! Thats something I always believed in. I guess alotta Times Arrogance serves as some sort of Defense-Mechanism for a Person when their Beliefs are being attacked....
I don't think Atheists have a Monopoly on Arrogance......but Assholes do! :lol:

Yes, clearly generalizations aren't applicable to everyone. Let's interpret that as 'majority'. As a matter of fact, to see what's really crackin', try this on for size . . . if you care to. Pretend to be an Atheist for a day . . . scratch that, a few hours, while interacting with people that you don't know. QUICKLY, you'll find out some interesting truths about the so-called faithful and acceptance/tolerance. I'll bet you'll have comedy for years to come. Thanks for the reply.

JG
 
You can't compare what you call "spirituality", which is a delusion/form of mental illness to quantum physics because theories in quantum physics, no matter how bizarre, HAVE BEEN PROVEN TO EXIST. Your "spirituality" (speaking in general terms) has not, and most of the time that's curable with proper medication.

So until you have proven that it exists, it does not exists.
A theory proven to exist. Yep. That sounds about right.

facepalm.gif



Idiot.
 
Back
Top