ROE VS. WADE NO LONGER EXISTS IN TEXAS AS SUPREME COURT FAILS TO ACT,UPDATE:Supreme Court has voted to overturn abortion rights, draft opinion shows

[Tito_Jackson]

Then they shouldn't get one.

Many people do not support using drugs, is the answer, well they shouldn't use then.

Many people do not support pedophilia, is the answer, well then they shouldn't partake.

Not taking stance on an issue in many instances is worse than taking an adversarial position.

The fact is this, men have zero rights when it comes to reproduction and the birth of humans, despite contributing 50% of the DNA and the expectation to support the child whether or not they wanted the child. Our bizarre world has made it so that a person has more say regarding the pups from a dog than a human.

We have devalued human life to a point of no return.

 

[woodchuck]

The fact is this, men have zero rights when it comes to reproduction and the birth of humans, despite contributing 50% of the DNA and the expectation to support the child whetheror not they wanted the child

They also get to walk away, and now, they're making women give birth to the products of rape and incest. I'm with you on the whole CS thing, especially since they are not required to let the man have a relationship with the child, but all of that other stuff? Nah, not feeling it.

 

[Flawless]

Voting doesn't matter, both sides are the same

 

[Flawless]

Many people do not support using drugs, is the answer, well they shouldn't use then.

Many people do not support pedophilia, is the answer, well then they shouldn't partake.

Not taking stance on an issue in many instances is worse than taking an adversarial position.

The fact is this, men have zero rights when it comes to reproduction and the birth of humans, despite contributing 50% of the DNA and the expectation to support the child whether or not they wanted the child. Our bizarre world has made it so that a person has more say regarding the pups from a dog than a human.

We have devalued human life to a point of no return.

Boo Fucking Hoo.

Dont fuck a chic you dont plan to get pregnant raw

 

[Tito_Jackson]

They also get to walk away, and now, they're making women give birth to the products of rape and incest. I'm with you on the whole CS thing, especially since they are not required to let the man have a relationship with the child, but all of that other stuff? Nah, not feeling it.

Stop. Let's talk facts.

Less than 1% of all abortions are from rape and less than 0.5% are from incest.

Why bring up extreme circumstances and anomalies that are far from the norm?

 

[woodchuck]

Stop. Let's talk facts.

Less than 1% of all REPORTED abortions are from rape and less than 0.5% are from incest.

Why bring up extreme circumstances and anomalies that are far from the norm?

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[darth frosty]

 

[fonzerrillii]

This is what the Court said in the majority opinion ...

" The statutory scheme before the Court is not only unusual, but unprecedented. The legislature has imposed a prohibition on abortions after roughly six weeks, and then essentially delegated enforcement of that prohibition to the populace at large. The desired consequence appears to be to insulate the State from responsibility or implementing and enforcing the regulatory regime. "


I think the true question is what Breyer says in his dissent .... A state cannot delegate veto power over the right to an abortion to any particular person...


Personally if I were a Repub .... I wouldn't want the majority to approve this law because if that's the case...

You have nothing to stop a liberal state from using the same type of scheme to allow any private citizen to sue gun owners civilly for carrying an assault rifle.... Or basically any other way to have a end around on constitutional protections.

I think the only reason why the court didn't approve the injunction is because technically the defendant here "Austin Reeve Jackson" doesn't have the right under the law to enforce it as a Judge cause it appears to be civil in nature and only enforced by the public in large. If Austin Reeve, private citizen, brought this lawsuit against either a person seeking an abortion or the women's health clinic... I definitely think the court would have imposed the injunction.

Either way.... there is no way this is going to work. A state can't do this.

so I’ve been thinking on this …. Procedurally what is going to need to happen will be for someone in Texas to sue a Texan for having an abortion when a fetal heartbeat is detected. That person doesn’t have to be prolife or for abortion.. they just need to sue… likely knowing they are going to take an L. The mother getting sued… can then immediately seek injunctive relief under the basis that the law places an undue burden following the line of reasoning under Planned parenthood against California…. This is going to be the only way to really get the court to prevent these type of laws.. I think even with the conservative majority… this will be struck down..

I think they will find a way to strike it down with the case in the 5th circuit finally gets there.. but they will probably knock it back down to determine if there is a standing issue.

this law will probably be on the books for a couple months…

Man if I lived in Texas … I don’t even know if I’d fuck any chick that lived there. One fucking slip up and you could be got paying child support for 18 years

 

[fonzerrillii]

don’t they need a majority to do this… there are a couple of democrats that would push back on this.

 

[fonzerrillii]

Stop. Let's talk facts.

Less than 1% of all abortions are from rape and less than 0.5% are from incest.

Why bring up extreme circumstances and anomalies that are far from the norm?

so every person that has been raped reports their pregnancy

most rapes aren’t even reported…

man of man… BGOL logic is fucking ridiculous..

 

[Gemini]

 

[code_pirahna]

TYT need to STFU. These were the same Bernie or Bust dumbasses that wanted to not vote rather than vote for Hillary. As a result

Trump comes in and puts 3 justices on the court

 

[fonzerrillii]

Based on my reading of this…
Kats do know that the mother and the father can be sued civilly

Texas SB8 | 2021-2022 | 87th Legislature

Bill Text (2021-05-19) Relating to abortion, including abortions after detection of an unborn child's heartbeat; authorizing a private civil right of action. [Effective on 9/1/21]

legiscan.com

Also this law reads like fucking horseshit.

 

[Tito_Jackson]

so every person that has been raped reports their pregnancy

most rapes aren’t even reported…

man of man… BGOL logic is fucking ridiculous..

You can not attempt to support your claim and dispute quantitative data with unsupported assumptions.

In reality, nothing is every fully reported, including COVID cases. Yet, we tend to use the presented figures anyway.

Regardless, none of this disputes the fact that rape and incest related abortions make up only a small percentage of the total number of abortions. The fact is, which is supported by data and multiple published academic journals, the overwhelming majority of abortions are initiated because of convenience. This is the undisputed and researchable fact

 

[Camille]

 

[Gemini]

 

[donwuan]

Please do not equate women wanting to kill unborn babies with the struggle and plight of black folk. The women's movement hijacked the Civil rights movement a long time ago. Unfortunately, we got so many uninformed who still fall for the trickery.

The fact is, not everyone supports abortion.

You don't have shit to do with abortions or having babies. You a brain washed coon. Coon facts are personal opinions. The Civil Rights movement is still in fully effect. You are not allowed in the meetings.

 

[darth frosty]

 

[darth frosty]

 

[LongLocs85]

Please do not equate women wanting to kill unborn babies with the struggle and plight of black folk. The women's movement hijacked the Civil rights movement a long time ago. Unfortunately, we got so many uninformed who still fall for the trickery.

The fact is, not everyone supports abortion.

But do you or those that don't support abortions agree with the idea that a woman that is a victim or incest does not have the right to abort their forced pregnancy?

 

[Tito_Jackson]

But do you or those that don't support abortions agree with the idea that a woman that is a victim or incest does not have the right to abort their forced pregnancy?

According to the data, a large number of pregnancies due to incest is consensual. The fact is, incest in the U.S. is only illegal due to the high negative outcomes resulting from the act. So, which group in the U.S. has the highest rate of pregnancies from incest? Ashkenazi Jews and middle easterners. Abortion gives them an opportunity to kill babies that are found to have genetic abnormalities. They made their fight your fight. Yep, you got tricked again. Furthermore, in southern states, brother and sister or cousin and cousin incest make up a large number of the cases of pregnancy resulting from consensual incest. Sick? Yes. But, self inflicting.

To your question, should women be able to abort children due to incest. In cases of rape, yes.

You don't have shit to do with abortions or having babies. You a brain washed coon. Coon facts are personal opinions. The Civil Rights movement is still in fully effect. You are not allowed in the meetings.

This is a perfect example of a person repeating talking points without even thinking about what he or she is saying.

Any person who truly believes that men have nothing to do with having babies is either a pro-abortion plant or is genuinely a ignorant person who knows nothing about science.

Lastly, the emotional outbursts from you and some others do not dispute the facts. Facts do not care about your feelings. Everying I have shared is factual and supported by data and research. Unfortunately, facts, data, and statistics are like kryptonite to some of you.

My stance is the this: if you are in a state that legally allows you the opportunity to get an abortion, then you have 100% autonomy and a right to do so. If you are in a state that has deemed abortions to be illegal, then you do not have the right to the procedure and should be prosecuted for breaking the law.

Nonetheless, a person does not have to like or agree with an action to accept social norms. In this case, I do not like, agree, or support abortions. Yet, I accept that states have made it legal to do so. This is exactly why we vote and have elections.

 

[mangobob79]

Please do not equate women wanting to kill unborn babies with the struggle and plight of black folk. The women's movement hijacked the Civil rights movement a long time ago. Unfortunately, we got so many uninformed who still fall for the trickery.

The fact is, not everyone supports abortion.

if it has to be explained... nvm

 

[actinanass]

You can't scream out "we need lockdowns, mask mandates, and vaccine passports", and be upset about the Heartbeat law.

You can't be pro choice when it only suits you. Just saying.

 

[mangobob79]

The fact is, not everyone supports abortion.

interracial marriage ?
sitting at a dinner with blackfolks ?
unemployment cheks that black folks could get
swimming
public transport
education
housing

 

[Gemini]

 

[comment101]

To be honest,


"I think" six weeks is more than enough time to know if you don't want the baby.

 

[Tito_Jackson]

interracial marriage ?
sitting at a dinner with blackfolks ?
unemployment cheks that black folks could get
swimming
public transport
education
housing

Again, you are drawing false equivalencies. The discrimination that black folk have faced and are still facing are not the same as women wanting terminate the life of an unborn child. Because our civil rights movement has been co-opted by the women's movement, black folk mistakenly make ill-informed remarks such as the one you and others have made.

This is one of the reasons why our movement has stalled. We galvanize and rally around everyone else's issues, but these same people we support somehow become silent about our issues.

Ironically, the ability to murder unborn children is rooted in racism. This makes this whole idea so insane. Planned Parenthood was founded to promote the termination of black babies. This is also a fact. This organization lead the charge to normalize abortions and has succeeded.

I'm saddened to see my people so easily cajoled.

Why can people accept that people have different opinions?

 

[LongLocs85]

Stop. Let's talk facts.

Less than 1% of all abortions are from rape and less than 0.5% are from incest.

Why bring up extreme circumstances and anomalies that are far from the norm?

You straight up copy and pasted, this from a USA Today May 24, 2019 article that pretty much regurgitated the same "stats" from a 1989 NYTimes article... that's not research or presenting facts as you claim to do so... What IS a fact is there's A LOT of women who are unfortunately victims of rape and incest... Specifically on rape here's supported evidence... This was located in the USA Today article you copy and pasted from...

The Criminal Justice System: Statistics | RAINN

The majority of perpetrators of sexual assault will not go to prison.

www.rainn.org

According to the data, a large number of pregnancies due to incest is consensual. The fact is, incest in the U.S. is only illegal due to the high negative outcomes resulting from the act. So, which group in the U.S. has the highest rate of pregnancies from incest? Ashkenazi Jews and middle easterners. Abortion gives them an opportunity to kill babies that are found to have genetic abnormalities. They made their fight your fight. Yep, you got tricked again. Furthermore, in southern states, brother and sister or cousin and cousin incest make up a large number of the cases of pregnancy resulting from consensual incest. Sick? Yes. But, self inflicting.

To your question, should women be able to abort children due to incest. In cases of rape, yes.

Again if we're going to make outlandish claims, at least support it... So Jewish people who make up only 2.4% of adults in the USA contribute to the highest % of pregnancy from incest, how is that possible? Let's see if your research can present facts rather than just your opinion...

What I think your missing is that this Texas ban on abortions is not about morality but heavily leaning on control... It's ironic that once the conversation of the decline of the US white population started to ramp up, the republican led states began their campaign to fight against abortions... It wasn't that big of an issue when you had anonymous donors giving millions to planned Parenthood...

 

[Camille]

 

[king reckless]

Again, you are drawing false equivalencies. The discrimination that black folk have faced and are still facing are not the same as women wanting terminate the life of an unborn child. Because our civil rights movement has been co-opted by the women's movement, black folk mistakenly make ill-informed remarks such as the one you and others have made.

This is one of the reasons why our movement has stalled. We galvanize and rally around everyone else's issues, but these same people we support somehow become silent about our issues.

Ironically, the ability to murder unborn children is rooted in racism. This makes this whole idea so insane. Planned Parenthood was founded to promote the termination of black babies. This is also a fact. This organization lead the charge to normalize abortions and has succeeded.

I'm saddened to see my people so easily cajoled.

Why can people accept that people have different opinions?

Can I borrow this speech? I finna piss off my Playas and church goers at the Turkey Leg Hut with this and make it sound like a freestyle.

 

[TEN]

 

[mangobob79]

Again, you are drawing false equivalencies. The discrimination that black folk have faced and are still facing are not the same as women wanting terminate the life of an unborn child. Because our civil rights movement has been co-opted by the women's movement, black folk mistakenly make ill-informed remarks such as the one you and others have made.

This is one of the reasons why our movement has stalled. We galvanize and rally around everyone else's issues, but these same people we support somehow become silent about our issues.

Ironically, the ability to murder unborn children is rooted in racism. This makes this whole idea so insane. Planned Parenthood was founded to promote the termination of black babies. This is also a fact. This organization lead the charge to normalize abortions and has succeeded.

I'm saddened to see my people so easily cajoled.

Why can people accept that people have different opinions?

at what point does a person's personal choice becomes the state's , this ruling isnt about "abortion" , this abortion rights is the canary in the mine, also what u "feel" about abortion shouldnt be anybodies prerogative , same as gay marriage ,why do u think one group's moral choices should decide how another group's choices are implemented or not and whats the basis for the power ? religion ? becos if its the state's right to choose what becomes law based upon one group's "religious" morality at what point does that extend beyond "abortion " ?

its funny u ask "Why cant people accept that people have different opinions?"

obviously a woman's differing "opinion" about her own body shouldnt be accepted by the state, becos of how u "feel" about "abortion"(her body) based upon ur religious morality its the state's right to decide which differing opinion about a woman's body is acceptable or not

and also if that the case where u have state punishing even the uber driver who gives the woman a ride to teh abortion clinic, at what point does it also punish the co-conspirator of said pregnancy , the man who went raw in her?

 

[mangobob79]

and now u literally have a signed law of a gestapo tactic in communist goverment where the government gets people’s neighbors to spy on them , at what point does that extend beyond "abortion" rights ?

 

[mangobob79]

again @Tito_Jackson r u okay with "insuring" the fetus ?

are u also okay with also penalizing the "co-conspirator" of said pregnancy or only the woman and her uber driver or anybody who knows and doesnt "report" to govt gets penalized ? but deff not the guy who went raw in her right?

 

[lightbright]

RepubliCacs got a helluva report card..... gonna graduate Magna Cum Laude for sure....


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