Roach Prefers Lamont Peterson For Pacquiao's Next Bout

[Alaskanredman]

Posted by: Miguel Rivera on 12/27/2011 .

By Miguel Rivera

Trainer Freddie Roach is possibly looking for a taste of revenge. The hall of fame coach would like to see WBO welterweight champion Manny Pacquiao (54-3-2, 38KOs) defend his title against IBF/WBA 140-pound king Lamont Peterson (30-1, 15KOs). Pacquiao is going to return in May or June of 2012. With Floyd Mayweather Jr. recently getting hit with a 90-day prison sentence for a domestic abuse charge, a number of boxers have been named as possible opponents for Pacquiao's first fight of the new year.

When Sal Rodriguez asked Roach for his preference among the three likely candidates - Tim Bradley, Miguel Cotto and Juan Manuel Marqiez - Roach replied with the name of "Lamont Peterson." In response to his desire for Peterson, Roach was asked "why" and the trainer replied "why not?" On December 10th, Peterson upset Amir Khan, another fighter trainer by Roach, with a twelve round split decision to capture the WBA and IBF titles.

http://www.boxingscene.com/roach-prefers-lamont-peterson-pacquiaos-next-bout--47848



It would be funny if these niggas pulled this. I like Peterson, but this is a half step below fighting Bradley which isn't a good look for Pac IMO. They were bitching up on the mega fight for Marquez 4, yet now there's debate... If they really can't wait for Floyd, Marquez for is a logical choice. If they aren't carefully, they'll fuck with one of these slick fighters that may pull a Marquez though, but ultimately get the robbery treatment.

 

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Fight Bradley, they know that is not gonna be a walk in the park for Pac, I see it as a 50-50 fight actually, Bradley is a tough ass dude and he won't get bullied in there. Peterson is the "weakest" choice and that's why he's going for it.

 

[Alaskanredman]

Fight Bradley, they know that is not gonna be a walk in the park for Pac, I see it as a 50-50 fight actually, Bradley is a tough ass dude and he won't get bullied in there. Peterson is the "weakest" choice and that's why he's going for it.

Bradley has very solid skills, but he likes to brawl unnecessarily which is the dumbest thing for a dude with little power to do. I think once he feels that power from Pac, it is over. Now if he goes in there and fights the perfect fight using his skill set... he could out point Pac if he can stay off the ground, but the judges won't give him a win unless its an undeniable shut out and even then he'll probably get fucked over.

 

[Ninja05]

Bradley has very solid skills, but he like brawl unnecessarily which is the dumbest thing for a dude with little power to do. I think once he feels that power from Pac, it is over. Now if goes in there and fights the perfect fight using his skill set... he could out point Pac if he can stay off the ground, but the judges won't give him a win unless its an undeniable shut out and even then he'll probably get fucked over.

Peterson? Pac would literally kill this dude. Roach has lost all respect. He used to be this white saint/knight in contrast to them damn mayweathers and other black, loud mouth characters. He had the mayweather killer and was trainer of the year. Now we see the inconsistencies. We see the ultimate cherrypicking (the same charge leveled on Floyd). We see opportunism and ducking. We see backtracking and blatant hypocrisy. Not even Merchant can justify this..but he will.

 

[Alaskanredman]

Peterson? Pac would literally kill this dude. Roach has lost all respect. He used to be this white saint/knight in contrast to them damn mayweathers and other black, loud mouth characters. He had the mayweather killer and was trainer of the year. Now we see the inconsistencies. We see the ultimate cherrypicking (the same charge leveled on Floyd). We see opportunism and ducking. We see backtracking and blatant hypocrisy. Not even Merchant can justify this..but he will.

They will justify it just like this article attempted to do... by making it about redeeming his coach.

I think it will be funny if they undercut Khan though.

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

Dudes are crazy funny on BGOL. First of all a fight with Manny vs Lamont only makes sense for Lamont. It is a big paycheck for him. But Lamont would be doing that and skipping Timmy. Lol, I don't think so. If he doesn't deserve a fight with Manny. How did Ortiz deserve his fight with PBF? Another thing. Manny only has a few options out there for a fight. The first was Lamont. Another is Timmy. Which is a great fight. Manny vs the best fighter at 140 pounds. I like this fight. The last option is against Juan. I personally think this saga is done. If Juan hasn't done enough to get a win after 3 fights. Why bother with another? It is beating a dead horse if you ask me.

Manny options are pretty much that. Maybe PBF once he gets out unless they make an agreement before jail.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Peterson? Pac would literally kill this dude. Roach has lost all respect. He used to be this white saint/knight in contrast to them damn mayweathers and other black, loud mouth characters. He had the mayweather killer and was trainer of the year. Now we see the inconsistencies. We see the ultimate cherrypicking (the same charge leveled on Floyd). We see opportunism and ducking. We see backtracking and blatant hypocrisy. Not even Merchant can justify this..but he will.

I like Lamont but this is ridiculous. How about this: Lamont continues fighting the top jr welters (if he stays in that division which I don't think he should) and Manny fights some a top welterweight.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Dudes are crazy funny on BGOL. First of all a fight with Manny vs Lamont only makes sense for Lamont. It is a big paycheck for him. But Lamont would be doing that and skipping Timmy. Lol, I don't think so. If he doesn't deserve a fight with Manny. How did Ortiz deserve his fight with PBF? Another thing. Manny only has a few options out there for a fight. The first was Lamont. Another is Timmy. Which is a great fight. Manny vs the best fighter at 140 pounds. I like this fight. The last option is against Juan. I personally think this saga is done. If Juan hasn't done enough to get a win after 3 fights. Why bother with another? It is beating a dead horse if you ask me.

Manny options are pretty much that. Maybe PBF once he gets out unless they make an agreement before jail.

Let me help you with something since you insist on going back to it ad nauseum no matter what the topic:

Victor Ortiz was the welterweight champion when he fought Floyd Mayweather and won what turned out to be an eliminator by beating the top welterweight and champion Andre Berto. That's how he deserved a fight with Floyd Mayweather.
Lamont Peterson isn't even a welterweight so he hasn't earned a shot at a welterweight champion which Manny is. Peterson should win at least one significant ww fight before talking about fighting Pacquaio. I know logical consistency isn't a strong suit of most Pacquaio fans/Mayweather detractors but at least recognize it.

 

[Suavehova]

I say he fight the winner of Ortiz and Berto

 

[Alaskanredman]

Let me help you with something since you insist on going back to it ad nauseum no matter what the topic:

Victor Ortiz was the welterweight champion when he fought Floyd Mayweather and won what turned out to be an eliminator by beating the top welterweight and champion Andre Berto. That's how he deserved a fight with Floyd Mayweather.
Lamont Peterson isn't even a welterweight so he hasn't earned a shot at a welterweight champion which Manny is. Peterson should win at least one significant ww fight before talking about fighting Pacquaio. I know logical consistency isn't a strong suit of most Pacquaio fans/Mayweather detractors but at least recognize it.

Not to mention neither Peterson, Bradley or Khan haven't even settled who is the best at 140. Khan gets credit for trying and Peterson gets credit for beating Khan, but he should beat Khan without debate and/or go back and beat Bradley before he is even considered for getting the winner of Ortiz vs Berto. If some how Peterson got Berto or Ortiz before proofing he is the best at 140, and won... fine... set it up.

Regardless, Marquez was at one point more important then the Mayweather fight so what the fuck happened to that?

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Not to mention neither Peterson, Bradley or Khan have even settled who is the best at 140. Khan gets credit for trying and Peterson gets credit for beating Khan, but he should beat Khan without debate and/or go back and beat Bradley before he is even considered for getting the winner of Ortiz vs Berto. If some how Peterson got Berto or Ortiz before proofing he is the best at 140, and won... fine... set it up.

Regardless, Marquez was at one point more important then the Mayweather fight so what the fuck happened to that?

Exactly. The best way for boxing to regain some lost credibility is for the top guys in each division to fight each other.
Lamont fights at 155 lbs so he should stop fighting at jr welter but, like Ortiz before him, if he insists on doing it, there are a lot of good fights in that division to make.
I know Manny got a jr middle shot with another non contender (Margarito) but that was bullshit and Peterson leapfrogging into this fight would be too.

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

Let me help you with something since you insist on going back to it ad nauseum no matter what the topic:

Victor Ortiz was the welterweight champion when he fought Floyd Mayweather and won what turned out to be an eliminator by beating the top welterweight and champion Andre Berto. That's how he deserved a fight with Floyd Mayweather.
Lamont Peterson isn't even a welterweight so he hasn't earned a shot at a welterweight champion which Manny is. Peterson should win at least one significant ww fight before talking about fighting Pacquaio. I know logical consistency isn't a strong suit of most Pacquaio fans/Mayweather detractors but at least recognize it.

Lol, we won't ever agree about Ortiz. As for Manny being a welterweight... He really isn't on his weigh in he is between 142 an144. He just is talented enough to fight the bigger guys. Timmy and Lamont are closer to him weight wise. I mean shit. Juan was bigger and hesvier than Manny in their last fight. I have been consistent. PBF is bigger and can beat Manny. I like Manny at 140.

 

[Alaskanredman]

Exactly. The best way for boxing to regain some lost credibility is for the top guys in each division to fight each other.
Lamont fights at 155 lbs so he should stop fighting at jr welter but, like Ortiz before him, if he insists on doing it, there are a lot of good fights in that division to make.
I know Manny got a jr middle shot with another non contender (Margarito) but that was bullshit and Peterson leapfrogging into this fight would be too.

The only motherfucker that has had some sense in approaching get these big is Khan and he knew he wasn't ready. Peterson got a close win over Khan, but it doesn't justify anything more than a rematch with Khan or Bradley imo.

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

I say he fight the winner of Ortiz and Berto

Nah, Ortiz has been exposed as a fighter that isn't at that level. He doesn't deserve a fight against Manny.

 

[Alaskanredman]

Lol, we won't ever agree about Ortiz. As for Manny being a welterweight... He really isn't on his weigh in he is between 142 an144. He just is talented enough to fight the bigger guys. Timmy and Lamont are closer to him weight wise. I mean shit. Juan was bigger and hesvier than Manny in their last fight. I have been consistent. PBF is bigger and can beat Manny. I like Manny at 140.

You are a goofy motherfucker. So Floyd has to go to Middleweight and Manny should drop down a weight class? Great fighters move up... right. Fighters should take on tough fights... right. Yet, you want Manny to move down and avoid his toughest challenge in Marquez... What exactly do you get out of trolling?

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Lol, we won't ever agree about Ortiz. As for Manny being a welterweight... He really isn't on his weigh in he is between 142 an144. He just is talented enough to fight the bigger guys. Timmy and Lamont are closer to him weight wise. I mean shit. Juan was bigger and hesvier than Manny in their last fight. I have been consistent. PBF is bigger and can beat Manny. I like Manny at 140.

We won't agree because you refuse to make sense.

You can like Manny at 140 all you want but he fights at welterweight. In fact, if he weighs 142-144, he's a welterweight since the jr welter limit is 140. So, with him being a legit if small welterweight and being a welterweight champion and one of the biggest draws in the sport, he should fight the top welters available. If Peterson moves up and wins a credible welterweight fight, then he can start talking about fighting Pacquaio or even Mayweather but with no welterweight victories, he shouldn't get a shot at a welterweight champion.
Like Ortiz or not, he was the top welterweight and a champion of a credible sanctioning body when he defended against Floyd Mayweather. Had Berto won, it probably would have been his fight. Floyd Mayweather, unlike 98% of fighters, fights at his natural weight and that's at welter. He could and might move up to take another jr middleweight fight but as of right now, he's the top welterweight champion.

You are a goofy motherfucker. So Floyd has to go to Middleweight and Manny should drop down a weight class? Great fighters move up... right. Fighters should take on tough fights... right. Yet, you want Manny to move down and avoid his toughest challenge in Marquez... What exactly do you get out of trolling?

It is borderline trolling. Buk has some ideas I agree with and then change the names of the fighters and those ideas are no longer valid to him and I don't get that.

Man, tell your lady to get her own name and stop posting under yours.

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

You are a goofy motherfucker. So Floyd has to go to Middleweight and Manny should drop down a weight class? Great fighters move up... right. Fighters should take on tough fights... right. Yet, you want Manny to move down and avoid his toughest challenge in Marquez... What exactly do you get out of trolling?

How many times can a fighter keep fighting a guy he has never lost to? 140 makes sense for Manny in my eyes. It isn't a stretch at all. Seeing how he in ring fight weight is about the same as he was in ring at 140. PBF is bigger and can fight at 154. It is a stretch for him at 160. But 154 is probably where he should be fighting. I am tired of him fighting smaller dudes and guys that don't deserve to be in the ring with him.

I thought you were ignoring me. That's you best look if you ask me.

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

We won't agree because you refuse to make sense.


It is borderline trolling. Buk has some ideas I agree with and then change the names of the fighters and those ideas are no longer valid to him and I don't get that.

So where have I been inconsistent? I'm not even going to respond to the silly stuff. Just cause I disagree I'm trolling. I'm not attacking you, derailing the thread, or saying some absolutely insane shit. I am just giving you an opinion shared by many others on a topic. They are just opinions. You have your and I have mine.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

So where have I been inconsistent? I'm not even going to respond to the silly stuff. Just cause I disagree I'm trolling. I'm not attacking you, derailing the thread, or saying some absolutely insane shit. I am just giving you an opinion shared by many others on a topic. They are just opinions. You have your and I have mine.

But those opinions are based on crazy.

Mine are based on indisputable facts (show me where I stated something incorrectly). It's not that we agree on the facts and come to different conclusions, you refuse to acknowledge the facts and apply them. So you are saying some insane shit. Not Zeferino-female fighters gettign dp'ed for stamina crazy D)but still crazy.

Forget what you think or how you feel and look at the decisions the fighters made with their careers and then say you think Peterson is in line for a Pacquiao fight. You can feel May and Pac should fight anywhere but they fight at the division they fight at (both are legitimate welterweights and fight in their natural division).

 

[Alaskanredman]

How many times can a fighter keep fighting a guy he has never lost to? 140 makes sense for Manny in my eyes. It isn't a stretch at all. Seeing how he in ring fight weight is about the same as he was in ring at 140. PBF is bigger and can fight at 154. It is a stretch for him at 160. But 154 is probably where he should be fighting. I am tired of him fighting smaller dudes and guys that don't deserve to be in the ring with him.

I thought you were ignoring me. That's you best look if you ask me.

Marquez was robbed that last fight so Manny should fight him until there is no debate. Don't take my word for it... listen to Arum.

I was ignoring you because your trolling was boring me, but I also told you to stop posting bullshit in my threads. The thought of clowning your contradictions sparked my interest today, but might be right because I don't have the motivation to go back and forth. I debated whether this was even worth my time.

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

But those opinions are based on crazy.

Mine are based on indisputable facts (show me where I stated something incorrectly). It's not that we agree on the facts and come to different conclusions, you refuse to acknowledge the facts and apply them. So you are saying some insane shit. Not Zeferino-female fighters gettign dp'ed for stamina crazy D)but still crazy.

Forget what you think or how you feel and look at the decisions the fighters made with their careers and then say you think Peterson is in line for a Pacquiao fight. You can feel May and Pac should fight anywhere but they fight at the division they fight at (both are legitimate welterweights and fight in their natural division).

Did I say you were wrong about how you felt? And you still have not pointed out my inconsistent comments. You read into what I write with biased lens, I feel that a guy that even when he fights at 147 comes into the ring at that or less can fight at 140 more than 154. I know that sounds crazy to some people and that is cool. I am fine with that and your opinion. I don't think I said Lamont is a good fight for Manny. I said it was an option. I said it was a good fight for Lamont cause he can get a big paycheck. I know that sounds crazy to you. Cool. I just think of a fight between those two that way. I rather see Timmy fight Lamont or Manny. Manny can leave the fights with Juan behind him in my opinion. 3 fights and Juan has not won any of them don't seem like just cause for a fourth fight. Unless Juan starts picking of 147 champs.

We disagree on Manny being a natural welterweight. I think he is a 140 pound fighter making fights at 147. And I think PBF is a 154 pound fighter making fights at 147.

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

Marquez was robbed that last fight so Manny should fight him until there is no debate. Don't take my word for it... listen to Arum.

I was ignoring you because your trolling was boring me, but I also told you to stop posting bullshit in my threads. The thought of clowning your contradictions sparked my interest today, but might be right because I don't have the motivation to go back and forth. I debated whether this was even worth my time.

Lol, ok. I chucked at "my threads" Boy you internet guys are funny and possessive. LOL, "my threads."

 

[Ninja05]

Did I say you were wrong about how you felt? And you still have not pointed out my inconsistent comments. You read into what I write with biased lens, I feel that a guy that even when he fights at 147 comes into the ring at that or less can fight at 140 more than 154. I know that sounds crazy to some people and that is cool. I am fine with that and your opinion. I don't think I said Lamont is a good fight for Manny. I said it was an option. I said it was a good fight for Lamont cause he can get a big paycheck. I know that sounds crazy to you. Cool. I just think of a fight between those two that way. I rather see Timmy fight Lamont or Manny. Manny can leave the fights with Juan behind him in my opinion. 3 fights and Juan has not won any of them don't seem like just cause for a fourth fight. Unless Juan starts picking of 147 champs.

We disagree on Manny being a natural welterweight. I think he is a 140 pound fighter making fights at 147. And I think PBF is a 154 pound fighter making fights at 147.

May entered his 154 jr middle weight fight with De la hoya at 150lbs and fought ortiz at 146lbs. He maxes out at a welter weight. Interesting enough, Manny weighed 148lbs fight time against de la hoya at welter. And let us not forget manny fought margarito at 150 limit. Let's just be honest and say he cherrypicks fighters just as many have accused mayweather of doing.

Manny is a JR welter weight when u bring up the names berto, ortiz, paul williams sergio martinez ect... When you bring up his "legacy" and hall of fame 8 world championships well he is a welter and even a junior middleweight champion..lol.

 

[Alaskanredman]

May entered his 154 jr middle weight fight with De la hoya at 150lbs and fought ortiz at 146lbs. He maxes out at a welter weight. Interesting enough, Manny weighed 148lbs fight time against de la hoya at welter. And let us not forget manny fought margarito at 150 limit. Let's just be honest and say he cherrypicks fighters just as many have accused mayweather of doing.

Manny is a JR welter weight when u bring up the names berto, ortiz, paul williams sergio martinez ect... When you bring up his "legacy" and hall of fame 8 world championships well he is a welter and even a junior middleweight champion..lol.

Manny always has underdog status for some reason. Everything he does is excusable.

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

May entered his 154 jr middle weight fight with De la hoya at 150lbs and fought ortiz at 146lbs. He maxes out at a welter weight. Interesting enough, Manny weighed 148lbs fight time against de la hoya at welter. And let us not forget manny fought margarito at 150 limit. Let's just be honest and say he cherrypicks fighters just as many have accused mayweather of doing.

Manny is a JR welter weight when u bring up the names berto, ortiz, paul williams sergio martinez ect... When you bring up his "legacy" and hall of fame 8 world championships well he is a welter and even a junior middleweight champion..lol.

Both fighter pick who they want when they want to fight them. I wouldn't call it cherry picking for either dude. LMAO @ what I say about Manny. I never really ever bring up 8 championships. That doesn't mean as much as the fights he has made to me. Winning belts is cool. But being in tough fights is what a legacy is built on for me.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Did I say you were wrong about how you felt? And you still have not pointed out my inconsistent comments. You read into what I write with biased lens, I feel that a guy that even when he fights at 147 comes into the ring at that or less can fight at 140 more than 154. I know that sounds crazy to some people and that is cool. I am fine with that and your opinion. I don't think I said Lamont is a good fight for Manny. I said it was an option. I said it was a good fight for Lamont cause he can get a big paycheck. I know that sounds crazy to you. Cool. I just think of a fight between those two that way. I rather see Timmy fight Lamont or Manny. Manny can leave the fights with Juan behind him in my opinion. 3 fights and Juan has not won any of them don't seem like just cause for a fourth fight. Unless Juan starts picking of 147 champs.

We disagree on Manny being a natural welterweight. I think he is a 140 pound fighter making fights at 147. And I think PBF is a 154 pound fighter making fights at 147.

You can think that but by your own words, you're wrong. Manny fights at 142-144, that makes him a full blown welterweight just a smaller one.
Floyd isn't a 154 pounder but he could move up to jr middleweight but, like Manny at welter, he would be a small jr middleweight.
It's not about how either of us feels or what we think but the facts as they are. If Lamont Peterson or Tim Bradley wants to fight Manny, they should do it at welterweight.

 

[babygwirl18]

Nah, Ortiz has been exposed as a fighter that isn't at that level. He doesn't deserve a fight against Manny.

Not too sure about that. Ortiz has the mix of skill and power that I think would give manny problems. I think he'd beat Berto though, who is too easy to hit.

 

[merce77]

Not too sure about that. Ortiz has the mix of skill and power that I think would give manny problems. I think he'd beat Berto though, who is too easy to hit.

Yup. Anybody in Manny's weight range not mentioned as an opponent is someone they think has a chance to beat him. No more Marquez and no Mayweather fight - Manny will fight only easy matches until it's time for Bob to cash out. Which is basically what they've been doing since Manny moved to 140.

 

[Jordan Diddy Buk]

Yup. Anybody in Manny's weight range not mentioned as an opponent is someone they think has a chance to beat him. No more Marquez and no Mayweather fight - Manny will fight only easy matches until it's time for Bob to cash out. Which is basically what they've been doing since Manny moved to 140.

I agree to a point. When I say Ortiz has proven he isn't on that elite level. I am talking about him mentally. Physically he has it. Skill wise he is lagging behind a bit. But it is the lack out mental toughness that makes me think he is a fraud if people view him as elite or a threat to the elite.

 

[Alaskanredman]

Yup. Anybody in Manny's weight range not mentioned as an opponent is someone they think has a chance to beat him. No more Marquez and no Mayweather fight - Manny will fight only easy matches until it's time for Bob to cash out. Which is basically what they've been doing since Manny moved to 140.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

And showing how short sighted modern promoters are, Arum would rather fuck up any potential money he could make promoting Bradley as a top guy in the future to safeguard an aging Pacquiao a little bit longer.

 

[merce77]

Bradley brings in NO money.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

Bradley brings in NO money.

And if they feed him to Pacquaio and he gets beaten badly, he never will.
A good promoter, which Arum can be, should be able to make Bradley a drawing fighter but it doesn't seem like he's interested in do that.

 

[merce77]

And if they feed him to Pacquaio and he gets beaten badly, he never will.
A good promoter, which Arum can be, should be able to make Bradley a drawing fighter but it doesn't seem like he's interested in do that.

In order to make a guy a draw he has to have something people want to see. Bradley can't punch so there are no one punch ko's in his fights. He's not exceptionally skillful or fast, and his fights are ugly headbutt fests. I don't think there is much to work with there unless Bradley himself suddenly becomes a better fighter. Plus fighting Casamyor in his last bout did him no favors.

 

[Upgrade Dave]

In order to make a guy a draw he has to have something people want to see. Bradley can't punch so there are no one punch ko's in his fights. He's not exceptionally skillful or fast, and his fights are ugly headbutt fests. I don't think there is much to work with there unless Bradley himself suddenly becomes a better fighter. Plus fighting Casamyor in his last bout did him no favors.

I agree with all that but most fans don't pay attention to details so you match him up with guys he can show off whatever skills he has and Joel was not one of those guys.