Reverend Jeremiah Wright and the Fierce Urgency of Now...timing is everything

[geechiedan]

Considering how everything he saying from this point on will be attributed in someway to Barack Obama and will ultimately be spun into something negative...why is he speaking out NOW? Timing is everything in life and this mini tour Wright is doing may be great timing for him but its not so good for Obama.

He said a couple of times this morning "I will be pastor after November 4th and I will be pastor after January 22nd.." which is very true BUT he's only relevant NOW.. Unless Obama wins the general election the expiration date on Jeremiahs Wright Jr.s national spot light is 1 am November 5th.

Do you REALLY think that CNN, MSNBC, FOX NEWS and all the Internet bloggers would give a fat rats ass about Reverend Wright or his "bombastic" "unpatriotic" views once Obama leaves the scene?

And that leads me to believe that Pastor Wright is not just defending his legacy (as is his right to do so) but he's taking advantage of the spotlight. Make no mistake the ONLY reason this man is getting this much attention is NOT because of who Barack Obama is but because of what Obama is trying to achieve. IF Obama loses the general election Wright goes back into obscurity. IF Obama loses the nomination Wright goes into obscurity that much sooner. NOW is the ONLY time he has to defend himself (and get a little shine) on the national stage.

That man has been preaching this stuff for a long time and even tho celebrities have been a part of his congregation he himself hasn't has much attention aside from local celebrity in his Chicago neighborhood. This situation puts him on the national scene in a way that he's never been...maybe he didn't seek it but he sure as hell is capitalizing on it now.

Which brings us back to Obama and how this may affect his campaign. In a smart and just world it SHOULDN'T...but we don't live in that world. Pundits and adversaries will work overtime to twist Wrights words and context into the most negative thing you've ever heard. And then tie that into Obama. At this point the only thing Obama can do is ignore the questions and charges. He's already made his decision and he should stick with. Because at this point no matter what Obama does on the Wright Issue..it will be viewed as wrong:

If he doesn't disavow and distance himself from Wright after this latest round of shit then he's showing bad leadership.

If he DOES disavow him now after saying he couldn't before then he's WISHY WASHY and a flip flopper.

IMO Wright could have and SHOULD HAVE waited until AFTER November 4th (election day) if for no other reason than to give Obama one less thing to deal with. And him doing this NOW is part selfish because he knows he won't have as big a stage and spotlight later.

 

[desklamp]

Let me get dis str8, so it's selfish of Wright to want to defend not only his character(that has been demonized by the MSM infront of MILLIONS) but also his life's work of trying to give hope to people?

It's selfish of Pastor Wright to not want him or his church lied about and seen as some kind of a cult( That the MSM has portrayed them as)?

It's selfish of Pastor Wright to not want to endure 9 more months of his name being dragged in the mud, just for the sake of putting Obama into the oval office?

It's selfish of Pastor Wrigh to not want to endure 9 months more of ridicule and slander inorder for Obama to get the appeasement of clueless, coward ass white americans?

SO inorder for a black person to attain this level of achievement (becoming president), not only do they have to distance themselves from people who they know to be tru, distance themselves from anything "too black", distance themselves from the very things that help mold and shaped them into even being a candidate for the presidency?

Black people are tired of tip toeing around white folks inorder to gain their approval. Nah, you can keep dat bullshit mayne.

 

[desklamp]

Lemme ask you a hypothetical question in return.


In order to get a few votes, do you think it's not selfish of Obama to let someone that has obviously seen as a mentor/father figure to him be completely demonized, harassed, beat up, ran over and crucified?...just so he can become president of a country that really doesn't even want him here in the first place?

 

[Alpha_Male]

Considering how everything he saying from this point on will be attributed in someway to Barack Obama and will ultimately be spun into something negative...why is he speaking out NOW?

He said a couple of times this morning "I will be pastor after November 4th and I will be pastor after January 22nd.." which is very true BUT he's only relevant NOW.. Unless Obama wins the general election the expiration date on Jeremiahs Wright Jr.s national spot like is November 5th.

Do you REALLY think that CNN, MSNBC, FOX NEWS and all the Internet bloggers would give a fat rats ass about Reverend Wright or his "bombastic" "unpatriotic" views once Obama leaves the scene?

And that leads me to believe that Pastor Wright is not just defending his legacy (as is his right to do so) but he's taking advantage of the spotlight. Make no mistake the ONLY reason this man is getting this much attention is NOT because of who Barack Obama is but because of what Obama is trying to achieve. IF Obama loses the general election Wright goes back into obscurity. IF Obama loses the nomination Wright goes into obscurity that much sooner. NOW is the ONLY time he has to defend himself (and get a little shine) on the national stage.

That man has been preaching this stuff for a long time and even tho celebrities have been a part of his congregation he himself hasn't has much attention aside from local celebrity in his Chicago neighborhood. This situation puts on the national scene in a way that he's never been...maybe he didn't seek it but he sure as hell is capitalizing on it now.

Which brings us back to Obama and how this may affect his campaign. In a smart and just world it SHOULDN'T...but we don't live in that world. Pundits and adversaries will work overtime to twist Wrights words and context into the most negative thing you've ever heard. And then tie that into Obama. At this point the only thing Obama can do is ignore the questions and charges. He's already made his decision and he should stick with. Because at this point no matter what Obama does on the Wright Issue..it will be viewed as wrong:

If he doesn't disavow and distance himself from Wright after this latest round of shit then he's showing bad leadership.

If he DOES disavow him now after saying he couldn't before then he's WISHY WASHY and a flip flopper.

IMO Wright could have and SHOULD HAVE waited until AFTER November 4th (election day) if for no other reason than to give Obama one less thing to deal with. And him doing this NOW is part selfish because he knows he won't have as big a stage and spotlight later.

I made this point this morning. This not about Wright or Black church. This is not about race as niggas will have believe. If it was Obama would have been long forgotten. This is about swiftboating and they will use any angle they can find. Honestly, Obama is being swiftboated. His poll #are falling, and he fundraising is slowing down. More and more he is being marginalized as the black candidate, and this fool insist on feeding the beast.

I mean the man has a right to self defense. But the way he is going about questionable. And his timing is completely fucked up.

 

[mrjody]

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Good stuff

 

[Van Allen]

Yeah..............Reverend Wright....Fox News. Nation of Islam is now protecting Rev. Wright

 

[Zero]

Considering how everything he saying from this point on will be attributed in someway to Barack Obama and will ultimately be spun into something negative...why is he speaking out NOW? Timing is everything in life and this mini tour Wright is doing may be great timing for him but its not so good for Obama.

He said a couple of times this morning "I will be pastor after November 4th and I will be pastor after January 22nd.." which is very true BUT he's only relevant NOW.. Unless Obama wins the general election the expiration date on Jeremiahs Wright Jr.s national spot like is November 5th.

Do you REALLY think that CNN, MSNBC, FOX NEWS and all the Internet bloggers would give a fat rats ass about Reverend Wright or his "bombastic" "unpatriotic" views once Obama leaves the scene?

And that leads me to believe that Pastor Wright is not just defending his legacy (as is his right to do so) but he's taking advantage of the spotlight. Make no mistake the ONLY reason this man is getting this much attention is NOT because of who Barack Obama is but because of what Obama is trying to achieve. IF Obama loses the general election Wright goes back into obscurity. IF Obama loses the nomination Wright goes into obscurity that much sooner. NOW is the ONLY time he has to defend himself (and get a little shine) on the national stage.

That man has been preaching this stuff for a long time and even tho celebrities have been a part of his congregation he himself hasn't has much attention aside from local celebrity in his Chicago neighborhood. This situation puts on the national scene in a way that he's never been...maybe he didn't seek it but he sure as hell is capitalizing on it now.

Which brings us back to Obama and how this may affect his campaign. In a smart and just world it SHOULDN'T...but we don't live in that world. Pundits and adversaries will work overtime to twist Wrights words and context into the most negative thing you've ever heard. And then tie that into Obama. At this point the only thing Obama can do is ignore the questions and charges. He's already made his decision and he should stick with. Because at this point no matter what Obama does on the Wright Issue..it will be viewed as wrong:

If he doesn't disavow and distance himself from Wright after this latest round of shit then he's showing bad leadership.

If he DOES disavow him now after saying he couldn't before then he's WISHY WASHY and a flip flopper.

IMO Wright could have and SHOULD HAVE waited until AFTER November 4th (election day) if for no other reason than to give Obama one less thing to deal with. And him doing this NOW is part selfish because he knows he won't have as big a stage and spotlight later.

Rev Wright is a HUMAN being. What part of that do you cats not understand? The media was attacking a human being. A human being was getting SERIOUS death threats. A human being was having his life's work dismantled. A human being was having his good name trashed. NOBODY was going to have his back but HIM. Nobody was going to speak up for him but HIM. If my name were Jeremiah Wright, I'd have to speak up too, fuck Obama, Obama wouldn't even be able to stand at the man's graveside after some racist nutcase put two in his head (hell, at the rate the media is going, they may require him to piss on Wright's grave to prove his "patriotism"). Do ANY of you cats realize that if this man sat on his ass and just took all this abuse until November there would be no turning back for him? He would be PERMANENTLY labeled based upon 15 fucking seconds of edited footage as a separatist and nutcase. Every member of that church would also wear that label. On the real, FUCK this election, every man has to say enough is enough at a certain point and the more Obama concedes, the more the media is going to ask him to concede. How far would you be willing to go before you would have a problem with that?

• Obama denounces affrimative action
• Obama denounces the NAACP
• Obama denies the existence of police brutality
• Obama supports race-based sentencing inequalities
• Obama denounces his wife Michelle

For real, how far can this shit go and you still be OK with it just to have a black president. W already had TWO black Secretaries of state and it didn't do much to uplift "the kids". How much would a sold out shell of a black man as president accomplish?

If this goes on much farther, I want to see Obama call bullshit on it. If he goes any farther with "denouncing" Rev. Wright, he will loose my respect. If he goes as far as Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC is suggesting and actually confronts Wright face-to-face publicly and calls him out, I won't be voting in November. I won't be party to this bullshit and I'll be damned if I want to see black folks have to walk on eggshells for some shit that has NO significance AT ALL once he bargains away not only his own dignity, but the collective dignity of all black folks.

 

[Spectrum]

I made this point this morning. This not about Wright or Black church. This is not about race as niggas will have believe. If it was Obama would have been long forgotten. This is about swiftboating and they will use any angle they can find. Honestly, Obama is being swiftboated. His poll #are falling, and he fundraising is slowing down. More and more he is being marginalized as the black candidate, and this fool insist on feeding the beast.

I mean the man has a right to self defense. But the way he is going about questionable. And his timing is completely fucked up.

I know are you getting murdered on here, but I agree with you. The timing on this shit is questionable. He could have at least waited until after May 6th.... he just handed the next news cycle to Hillary again..

 

[Warrior 7]

this America still
let the man talk politics be damned

and FUCK white America and their snakeish ways

 

[geechiedan]

1. you don't have to use large letters and bold to be read..

2. compromise to some degree is part of politics in fact its the very nature of politics

3. no one said that wright COULDN'T defend himself at all..in fact i was proud of his sermon last night and that sermon perfectly demonstrated the kind of man, pastor and teacher he is...had he left it at that it would have been great. The pundits and commentators really didn't have anything to go on. But this morning is a different story. Tabliod tv should start prefacing their shows with the Miranda Warning. ANYTHING YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION.

The more wright talks the more ammo he gives them to use against Obama.

 

[Brother Blaque]

Niggas are so afraid that Obama will not be elected President.

@ these crazy ass negros panicking at the
very sight of Reverend Wright.

The real tragedy is that Obama is the FIRST serious Black candidate to ever run for president in this country.

The real tragedy is that some Negros think Obama is their last hope.


White women are not panicking if Hillary loses
because they know there is another white bitch right
behind her who will run one day....
her name is Chelsea.


​

 

[geechiedan]

Lemme ask you a hypothetical question in return.


In order to get a few votes, do you think it's not selfish of Obama to let someone that has obviously seen as a mentor/father figure to him be completely demonized, harassed, beat up, ran over and crucified?...just so he can become president of a country that really doesn't even want him here in the first place?

then he should drop out...

 

[DaleMabry]

We cant let the right wing, conservative whites, the media or ANYONE define us Geechie.

Thats why the Dems have been a bunch of pussies for ten years now, while the GOP say and does what it wants, prays with whoever it wants, and supports whatever it wants and wins again and again.

People respect strength, not pussy-ass accomodationalism.

 

[geechiedan]

Rev Wright is a HUMAN being. What part of that do you cats not understand? The media was attacking a human being. A human being was getting SERIOUS death threats. A human being was having his life's work dismantled. A human being was having his good name trashed. NOBODY was going to have his back but HIM. Nobody was going to speak up for him but HIM. If my name were Jeremiah Wright, I'd have to speak up too, fuck Obama, Obama wouldn't even be able to stand at the man's graveside after some racist nutcase put two in his head (hell, at the rate the media is going, they may require him to piss on Wright's grave to prove his "patriotism"). Do ANY of you cats realize that if this man sat on his ass and just took all this abuse until November there would be no turning back for him? He would be PERMANENTLY labeled based upon 15 fucking seconds of edited footage as a separatist and nutcase. Every member of that church would also wear that label. On the real, FUCK this election, every man has to say enough is enough at a certain point and the more Obama concedes, the more the media is going to ask him to concede. How far would you be willing to go before you would have a problem with that?

• Obama denounces affrimative action
• Obama denounces the NAACP
• Obama denies the existence of police brutality
• Obama supports race-based sentencing inequalities
• Obama denounces his wife Michelle

For real, how far can this shit go and you still be OK with it just to have a black president. W already had TWO black Secretaries of state and it didn't do much to uplift "the kids". How much would a sold out shell of a black man as president accomplish?

If this goes on much farther, I want to see Obama call bullshit on it. If he goes any farther with "denouncing" Rev. Wright, he will loose my respect. If he goes as far as Andrea Mitchell on MSNBC is suggesting and actually confronts Wright face-to-face publicly and calls him out, I won't be voting in November. I won't be party to this bullshit and I'll be damned if I want to see black folks have to walk on eggshells for some shit that has NO significance AT ALL once he bargains away not only his own dignity, but the collective dignity of all black folks.

he's ALREADY permanently branded those things...and the people branding him will continue to do so regardless of what he does..

 

[Brother Blaque]

Yeah..............Reverend Wright....Fox News. Nation of Islam is now protecting Rev. Wright

Props to the N.O.I
​

 

[geechiedan]

We cant let the right wing, conservative whites, the media or ANYONE define us Geechie.

Thats why the Dems have been a bunch of pussies for ten years now, while the GOP say and does what it wants, prays with whoever it wants, and supports whatever it wants and wins again and again.

People respect strength, not pussy-ass accomodationalism.

I agree...i never said that wright shouldn't defend himself...just the timing is off.

 

[buck_ya_bitch]

wright is just a selfish cocksucker like all self serving pastors, ministers, pope's ...etc...

this fuck tard knows that him speaking can only hurt obama now..
white people want to forget about wright and move on..
but
he won't go away ...
selfish cocksucker...

if placating whites is what must be done so that obama can get the nomination..
that is what every black person, including wright, must do...
we got to look at the bigger picture..
this might be the only time we get a black man in the white house..

for some strange reason this guy wright can't see that..

this is the issue the republican party is going to use to get at obama...
rev. wright
he knows that ..
him speaking only sabotage obama's changes of getting the nomination..
the fucked up thing is
wright knows that..

selfish cocksucker...

 

[Zero]

then he should drop out...

Why isn't him having some balls an option? Why isn't him just being flat out honest and calling this whole thing what it is, BULLSHIT, an option? Like Dale said, the shit works for the GOP all the time, maybe being fucking nutless and accommodating is NOT a good strategy.

Also, these blue collar, "Archie Bunker" Democrats in the Midwest are fucking racists, plain and simple. I grew up in Cleveland, I know them WELL. I'm not talking some shit like "Some of them are a little racist, but they are good people" shit, I am saying that the MAJORITY of them are hardcore racist assholes. Obama CAN'T get their votes and he won't get their votes, but since they are a dwindling demographic, who gives a shit. Denouncing all things black to get the vote of an aging and dwindling RACIST demographic is NOT worth it. Fuck them. I'm black, so excuse the shit out of me if I feel that I matter more than some underemployed redneck former steel worker in Youngstown. Excuse me if I'm not OK with Obama shitting on me to appease them.

He does this as a MAN or not at all. Up until now, he's done a good job, let's see how this plays out now.

 

[xeon]

We cant let the right wing, conservative whites, the media or ANYONE define us Geechie.

Thats why the Dems have been a bunch of pussies for ten years now, while the GOP say and does what it wants, prays with whoever it wants, and supports whatever it wants and wins again and again.

People respect strength, not pussy-ass accomodationalism.

This is true.

There is no problem if you're paying attention to peoples comments.

He's been given more attention than Obama being on Fox and people are noticing that. You're going to hear people point that out. You're going to hear pundents start to say "look Rev. Wright isn't running for office"

 

[desklamp]

1. you don't have to use large letters and bold to be read..

2. compromise to some degree is part of politics in fact its the very nature of politics

3. no one said that wright COULDN'T defend himself at all..in fact i was proud of his sermon last night and that sermon perfectly demonstrated the kind of man, pastor and teacher he is...had he left it at that it would have been great. The pundits and commentators really didn't have anything to go on. But this morning is a different story. Tabliod tv should start prefacing their shows with the Miranda Warning. ANYTHING YOU SAY CAN AND WILL BE USED AGAINST YOU IN THE COURT OF PUBLIC OPINION.

The more wright talks the more ammo he gives them to use against Obama.

1. me typing in bold should have nothing to do with you being able to read what is being said. I am not the first nor am i da only person that types in bold on this board.

2. So compromising one's own dignity and sacrificing one's initial purpose, (for which Pastor Wright's is speakin about the truth of injustice dat plagues this world) has to be completely dismissed because of politics? Nah, don't think so bruh. Dis shit has ALWAYS been bigger than politics. We are talkin about some human worldwide scale shit. Not some political race.

3. You continue to have that doubt, that negativity. It will only scew your perception of what is really at stake here. Obama becoming president is not goin to stop black folks from being percieved how they've ALWAYS been by the majority whites. Black folks are not all of a sudden going to be made into the supreme rulers of dis land when Obama is elected. We are still goin to endure the same racist bullshit they've we've ALWAYS had to. I will continue to say this over and over again, black folks did not get where we were by keeping our mouths shut and just lying down and takin shit.

Remember, it was some black slaves with that "hush be quiet you go ruin it for all of us" mentality. lol hell inorder to actually set free some of them ,Harriet Tubman actually had to hold a shotgun to a few of em and told them either you come with me or i'll shoot you because they were just to scared/ignorant to understand the situation.

Remember what that man said when he first introduced Pastor Wright...They didn't like Martin, they didn't like Malcom, and they didnt like Jesus.

You niggas can be scared if you want to but i'm ridin with the freedom fighters all da way.

 

[Zero]

wright is just a selfish cocksucker like all self serving pastors, ministers, pope's ...etc...

this fuck tard knows that him speaking can only hurt obama now..
white people want to forget about wright and move on..
but
he won't go away ...
selfish cocksucker...

if placating whites is what must be done so that obama can get the nomination..
that is what every black person, including wright, must do...
we got to look at the bigger picture..
this might be the only time we get a black man in the white house..

for some strange reason this guy wright can't see that..

this is the issue the republican party is going to use to get at obama...
rev. wright
he knows that ..
him speaking only sabotage obama's changes of getting the nomination..
the fucked up thing is
wright knows that..

selfish cocksucker...

Fuck you and your opinion on that dog, for real. You can kiss my ass and step the other way with that bullshit.

 

[geechiedan]

wright is just a selfish cocksucker like all self serving pastors, ministers, pope's ...etc...

this fuck tard knows that him speaking can only hurt obama now..
white people want to forget about wright and move on..
but
he won't go away ...
selfish cocksucker...

if placating whites is what must be done so that obama can get the nomination..
that is what every black person, including wright, must do...
we got to look at the bigger picture..
this might be the only time we get a black man in the white house..

for some strange reason this guy wright can't see that..

this is the issue the republican party is going to use to get at obama...
rev. wright
he knows that ..
him speaking only sabotage obama's changes of getting the nomination..
the fucked up thing is
wright knows that..

selfish cocksucker...

cute

Wright doing his sermon last night IMO spoke VOLUMES as what kind of man his is and it showed in how NO ONE could seize on anything to twist. This morning I feel he's playing into their game...no matter how much he tries to say he's not political..he's going to be place in that context. He's a good preacher he should do what he does best and let his actions as such speak for the kind of man he is..

 

[DaleMabry]

if placating whites is what must be done so that obama can get the nomination..
that is what every black person, including wright, must do...
we got to look at the bigger picture..

You mean like when natives saved them from starvation, got robbed and murdered and honored with a holiday postmortem?

Or like when Seminole chiefs and Apache chiefs met to negotiate peace and were actually captured and executed?

Or when DuBois tried to come up through the system (Harvard, NAACP) and was chased to Ghana in his old age?

Or when King preached nonviolence and was rewarded with assassination?

"Power concedes nothing without a demand."
-Frederick Douglass

This is what happens when niggas run around with Smack DVD lines in their head instead of black history and literature.

 

[Spectrum]

Wright is speaking the truth..but dude could have waited until May 6th. Fresh off a win in Penn, this is fucking Gold for Hillary... her message will now dominate the news cycle for until the next primary.. a win by Obama in Indiana would put her away...in a tight race, shit like this tips the boat. The timing of this suggest something that all men succomb to.... the ego. Wright could have gotten his message about after May 6th and after Obama sealed things up...what was the rush to get this out for the next news cycle?... just gives Hillary and the GOP more bait.

I've actually been one of the posters who has always supported Wright's message and still see nothing wrong with this message.. but this is probably the absolute worst time for him to start talking this shit (loss in Penn, obama falling in the polls, and with Indiana in play). It's about being strategy... dude could have done this after N.C. and Indiana and got the same message out without doing too much damage to Obama..

 

[master-ceo]

House niggas be gone. I waited @ the Mall till 1:00pm. None of yall showed up.

 

[Bundaist The Messiah]

It isn't wrong for Wright to defend the negative portrayals of by the media.

- This is just the wrong time for him to do it.

(most people think he should remain silent and should wait until Obama is at least elected as Pres).

If he's been preaching for 25 years or more, surely he can show some form of discipline and keep his big mouth shut for 10 mos.

That's the problem with public speakers. They always feel the need to open their mouths and talk when they should be silent.

 

[Alpha_Male]

We cant let the right wing, conservative whites, the media or ANYONE define us Geechie.

Thats why the Dems have been a bunch of pussies for ten years now, while the GOP say and does what it wants, prays with whoever it wants, and supports whatever it wants and wins again and again.

People respect strength, not pussy-ass accomodationalism.

Dale, this is not about defining Blacks. Ask John Kerry. This man, a veteran, was switboated on bogus accusations-unpatriotic. Imagine what they will do with Wright uncanny ability to act a fool.

 

[DaleMabry]

I agree...i never said that wright shouldn't defend himself...just the timing is off.

How do you know he will get another shot?

He's speaking in front of the annual NAACP convention no? Annual Press Club meeting no? Bill Moyers, a friendly voice, gave him a friendly forum to define himself.

Is he using the media's attempt to give him the rope to hang himself? Yes.

But he just flipped it into a lasso and is pulling sheep into his flock, which is what a man of God is sposed to do.

I'm not strictly a Christian per se but I was raised to be one.

And I know the Bible is full of prophets pissing off political leaders for God's cause.

I think my race and faith trumps my politics on this one.

 

[geechiedan]

2. So compromising one's own dignity and sacrificing one's initial purpose, (for which Pastor Wright's is speakin about the truth of injustice dat plagues this world) has to be completely dismissed because of politics? Nah, don't think so bruh. Dis shit has ALWAYS been bigger than politics. We are talkin about some human worldwide scale shit. Not some political race.

Obama can't be the BLACK president. As such he has to take into consideration all of the people of this country not just one segment.

And he's not the first person ever to placed into this position. Politics is compromise whether you like it or not.

3. You continue to have that doubt, that negativity. It will only scew your perception of what is really at stake here. Obama becoming president is not goin to stop black folks from being perceived how they've ALWAYS been by the majority whites. Black folks are not all of a sudden going to be made into the supreme rulers of dis land when Obama is elected. We are still goin to endure the same racist bullshit they've we've ALWAYS had to. I will continue to say this over and over again, black folks did not get where we were by keeping our mouths shut and just lying down and takin shit.

Obama becoming president doesn't change racism or the perception of black people just like hillary wouldn't change the perception of women..we called them bitches before and we'll call them bitches after.. But that doesn't mean we can't strive for the highest office in the land if we want to...any of us.

ZERO said: We already had TWO black Secretaries of state and it didn't do much to uplift "the kids". How much would a sold out shell of a black man as president accomplish?

well seeing those two black SOS shows the next generation they CAN achieve that IF they want it. Whether you see it or not. Obama or any black person becoming leader of the "freeworld" shows it CAN be done.

Remember, it was some black slaves with that "hush be quiet you go ruin it for all of us" mentality. lol hell Harriet Tubman actually had to hold a shotgun to a few of em and told them either you come with me or i'll shoot you because they were just to scared/ignorant to understand the situation.

Remember what that man said when he first introduced Pastor Wright...They didn't like Martin, they didn't like Malcom, and they didnt like Jesus.

this has nothing to do with liking wright...he's just a pawn to used to block obama ascension...thats it..white people don't CARE about wright..if and when Obama leaves the scene will be the day wrights 15 minutes are done...

You niggas can be scared if you want to but i'm ridin with the freedom fighters all da way.[/B][/SIZE][/QUOTE]

 

[Zero]

Wright is speaking the truth..but dude could have waited until May 6th. Fresh off a win in Penn, this is fucking Gold for Hillary... her message will now dominate the news cycle for until the next primary.. a win by Obama in Indiana would put her away...in a tight race, shit like this tips the boat. The timing of this suggest something that all men succomb to.... the ego. Wright could have gotten his message about after May 6th and after Obama sealed things up...what was the rush to get this out for the next news cycle?... just gives Hillary and the GOP more bait.

I've actually been one of the posters who has always supported Wright's message and still see nothing wrong with this message.. but this is probably the absolute worst time for him to start talking this shit (loss in Penn, obama falling in the polls, and with Indiana in play). It's about being strategy... dude could have done this after N.C. and Indiana and got the same message out without doing too much damage to Obama..

Actually, what appears to have happened was that he was scheduled to speak at the NAACP at an annual dinner. Since the event is like an anniversary thing, it may have been a tad difficult to reschedule it until mid-May simply to appease Obama. The event got a HUGE surge of ticket purchases and the media decided to get all over it because Wright would be there. I think the other interviews were to prepare for the speech. Wright has been turning down speaking engagements left and right. He hasn't had a single invitation revoked that I know of, but he has passed on several speaking engagements. The MINUTE he accepted a speaking engagement, the media was gonna be all over it. How long is dude supposed to hide, 7 months, 9 months?

It's funny that cats actually believe that Obama speaking to Fox after 2 years and Wright dropping his bombs this weekend were a coincidence. That bullshit ambush debate in Philly clearly showed the Wright thing was never gonna go away and better that Wright controls the conversation than Sean Hannity and Hillary Clinton. This will play out in Obama's favor in the general election. Who gives a shit about now, this primary season is over and either Obama will win fair and square or get fucked, but either way, why throw Wright under the bus and sacrifice his own dignity just to get a few blue collar rednecks to "tolerate" you.

 

[buck_ya_bitch]

Wright is speaking the truth..but dude could have waited until May 6th. Fresh off a win in Penn, this is fucking Gold for Hillary... her message will now dominate the news cycle for until the next primary.. a win by Obama in Indiana would put her away...in a tight race, shit like this tips the boat. The timing of this suggest something that all men succomb to.... the ego. Wright could have gotten his message about after May 6th and after Obama sealed things up...what was the rush to get this out for the next news cycle?... just gives Hillary and the GOP more bait.

I've actually been one of the posters who has always supported Wright's message and still see nothing wrong with this message.. but this is probably the absolute worst time for him to start talking this shit (loss in Penn, obama falling in the polls, and with Indiana in play). It's about being strategy... dude could have done this after N.C. and Indiana and got the same message out without doing too much damage to Obama..

what these kats don't understand is
this is the issue the republican party is going to use to get at obama...

have you listened to conservative radio lately..
this is the issue...
they are using...
wright needs to do the right thing and fallback til after the election..no more interviews.
this one self serving negro could cause obama the nomination...

 

[DaleMabry]

Dale, this is not about defining Blacks. Ask John Kerry. This man, a veteran, was switboated on bogus accusations-unpatriotic. Imagine what they will do with Wright uncanny ability to act a fool.

I personally am tired of reactionary strategies based on ceding ground to the right wing attack media.

Fuck what they will do with whatever, the Swiftboat shit was made up so we know if it isnt Wright it will be something.

If swing white voters are willing to continue to support fabricated wedge issues over truth and reform, then no amount of timing and tiptoeing will reverse that.

Why dont we flip the tables and demand McCain denounce Hagee's comments which are 1000% more indefensible? You see how quiet Hannity has been since the Hal Turner counterpunch? Why not keep counterpunching?

People on BGOL were emailing, writing media organizations and politicians, donating, showing some backbone and now I read all this trembly shit about how the timing is awful and white Reagan Democrats are gonna be so upset?

Fuck what "they will do"--there is never a more convenient time for truth, Wright is spitting it, and I'm riding for it, and I'll accept whatever outcome happens as a result...including President McCain.

 

[Zero]

ZERO said: We already had TWO black Secretaries of state and it didn't do much to uplift "the kids". How much would a sold out shell of a black man as president accomplish?

well seeing those two black SOS shows the next generation they CAN achieve that IF they want it. Whether you see it or not. Obama or any black person becoming leader of the "freeworld" shows it CAN be done. [/b][/size]

[/quote]

I teach my kids that HOW they achieve success is just as important as achieving it. Should I applaud my daughters if they sucked some V.P.'s dick to get into middle management, Should I applaud my son because he pulls a Larry Elder to get ahead in the world?

You imply that HOW a person rises through the ranks does not matter only that they rise.

 

[geechiedan]

How do you know he will get another shot?

He's speaking in front of the annual NAACP convention no? Annual Press Club meeting no? Bill Moyers, a friendly voice, gave him a friendly forum to define himself.

Is he using the media's attempt to give him the rope to hang himself? Yes.

But he just flipped it into a lasso and is pulling sheep into his flock, which is what a man of God is sposed to do.

I'm not strictly a Christian per se but I was raised to be one.

And I know the Bible is full of prophets pissing off political leaders for God's cause.

I think my race and faith trumps my politics on this one.

but thats my point...the politics are the ONLY reason wright is in the spotlight to begin with...

this isn't something new..this man has been saying this stuff for dacades BUT he knows that after election day the ONLY network that would bother to cover him would be CSPAN and be MAY get a few seconds on CNN in the form of a crawl across the screen..thats it.

Since its OBAMA'S POLITICAL RUN thats fueling his spotlight then he should be mindful of how his words will be portrayed during this time...

And he's wrong..this isn't an indictment of the black church..crackas could care less what the black church says or does..this is a political PLOY to derail Obama's campaign..PERIOD.

 

[Spectrum]

Actually, what appears to have happened was that he was scheduled to speak at the NAACP at an annual dinner. Since the event is like an anniversary thing, it may have been a tad difficult to reschedule it until mid-May simply to appease Obama. The event got a HUGE surge of ticket purchases and the media decided to get all over it because Wright would be there. I think the other interviews were to prepare for the speech. Wright has been turning down speaking engagements left and right. He hasn't had a single invitation revoked that I know of, but he has passed on several speaking engagements. The MINUTE he accepted a speaking engagement, the media was gonna be all over it. How long is dude supposed to hide, 7 months, 9 months?

It's funny that cats actually believe that Obama speaking to Fox after 2 years and Wright dropping his bombs this weekend were a coincidence. That bullshit ambush debate in Philly clearly showed the Wright thing was never gonna go away and better that Wright controls the conversation than Sean Hannity and Hillary Clinton. This will play out in Obama's favor in the general election. Who gives a shit about now, this primary season is over and either Obama will win fair and square or get fucked, but either way, why throw Wright under the bus and sacrifice his own dignity just to get a few blue collar rednecks to "tolerate" you.

I think it's better to get this shit out of the way too. I just think that it would have been more appropriate after May 6th. The only thing that really makes me cringe is the fact that HILLARY CLINTON has the most to gain from this shit at the moment... A spillover from any negative shit from this in the media could be enough to give her a win in Indiana.

This is not about "toleration". At least not to me... I don't give a shit about that angle of the argument. My only beef is that this shit only benefits Hillary Clinton as the moment... just waiting a few more days would have not given her anything benefit from this.