Rapper Gets Stomped OUT For Not Paying Studio BILL

dude was getting a bit too loud and aggravated the situation ... he obviously felt real comfortable talking to someone he owed money like they was his servant ....

but homeboy almost coulda killed dude ... probably over less than $500 ... if he go to jail behind this and end up like ole boy in the riker's island thread ... is it worth it? ... :smh:

He should be about his business ... pay money up front ... if not have artists do a deposit ... you can't trust artists with money cause they broke ... he slipped up with his business plan and now might end up catching a case thanks to his "friend" trying to get on worldstar

everyone loses here :itsawrap:
 
Fuck all that shit you're talking. Once he had dude defeated and begging for mercy it should have been over. The kicks and blows to the head of a guy who is semi conscious and obviously defenseless is bitch shit and animal like behavior. I have no problem with the initial ass whipping but at a certain point it goes too far. And once you cross that line you are subject to whatever repercussions that may follow. Dude was flirting with a murder charge. The way the kids head was bouncing off of that cement wall could have resulted in brain hemorrhaging and skull fractures.

Wrong again. In jail for what?

Man... you sound stupid. Since when are there rules to the street? Since when is there a ref? You act like the semi-concious guy is an innocent bystander. How the fuck is it "bitch shit" if the dude squared LIKE A MAN? Dude didn't pay him..., who the fuck are YOU to decide how much that studio cats money meant to HIM? How do you know that man aint need that money to pay medical bills for his mother? How do you know dude doesn't owe another cat? How do you know he didnt need the money to stop the same thing from happening to him? You don't.

Once he crossed the line of NOT PAYING him he was subject to the repercussions that followed... No sympathy for a dishonest cheat. And THEFT of SERVICES is a crime in NEW YORK STATE..you can go to jail for it.........
 
i dont know the whole situation so i cant really make a comment.
But you better believe niggas dont throw hands like that just cause, that shit happened for a reason
 
Shit is not a game.

Times are hard out here for many.

Niggas come into your studio running lil raps about money with promises to pay..that shit doesnt work with every nigga.

:smh:
 
He should be about his business ... pay money up front ...

That says it all right there.
If you're trying to run a business,you have to treat it like one.
But beating the dude mercilessly was way too much.(IMO)
He should have just hounded him until he got his doe and if he
didn't pay up........no more studio time....ever.


Peace
 
Man... you sound stupid. Since when are there rules to the street? Since when is there a ref? You act like the semi-concious guy is an innocent bystander. How the fuck is it "bitch shit" if the dude squared LIKE A MAN? Dude didn't pay him..., who the fuck are YOU to decide how much that studio cats money meant to HIM? How do you know that man aint need that money to pay medical bills for his mother? How do you know dude doesn't owe another cat? How do you know he didnt need the money to stop the same thing from happening to him? You don't.

Once he crossed the line of NOT PAYING him he was subject to the repercussions that followed... No sympathy for a dishonest cheat. And THEFT of SERVICES is a crime in NEW YORK STATE..you can go to jail for it.........
No, you sound fucking stupid. The point is the guy went too fucking far. And if you dont recognize stomping out a defenseless person as bitch shit then maybe you're a bitch.

As for theft of services, thats a fraud and intent based crime. Being late or negligent in paying a bill for a service wont rise to the criminal charge of theft by service. At best this is a contract dispute, a civil issue. Nobody going to jail for that bullshit.
 
Man he came real close to murking homeboy, man if that kick would have caught him right while his head was on the wall, that could have been lights out for good.
 
its all fun and games until dude dies from a brain injury

hell he was a few kicks from killing dude

and then your dumb ass is doing a 25yr bid over $200 at most

some of you niggas are absolute idiots

that isnt street shit, thats stupidity

if $200 is going to make or break you...its time to find a new profession
 
I have felt that way about many niggas i had to listen to
over and over take after take. But you get that money 1st
like a hoe.

Niggas raps be sickening nowdays.

Really makes you want to fuck one of these niggas up like this.:yes:


Looked fake to me. Seem like the video was speed up during the kicks

Nah he caught his bitch ass with some solid shots.
 
No, you sound fucking stupid. The point is the guy went too fucking far. And if you dont recognize stomping out a defenseless person as bitch shit then maybe you're a bitch.

As for theft of services, thats a fraud and intent based crime. Being late or negligent in paying a bill for a service wont rise to the criminal charge of theft by service. At best this is a contract dispute, a civil issue. Nobody going to jail for that bullshit.

And using a studio is no different from using a hotel......http://athens.waff.com/content/police-man-arrested-theft-services.........

You receive the services of a business then you leave without payment... thats theft of services and this dude went to jail for it....
 
No, you sound fucking stupid. The point is the guy went too fucking far. And if you dont recognize stomping out a defenseless person as bitch shit then maybe you're a bitch.

As for theft of services, thats a fraud and intent based crime. Being late or negligent in paying a bill for a service wont rise to the criminal charge of theft by service. At best this is a contract dispute, a civil issue. Nobody going to jail for that bullshit.

Again who are you to say he went too far?.. Let me ask you this. If you owed a cat some money or he was gonna fuck you up or worse...you wouldn't do the same to a dude who owed YOU the money you needed to pay him? Seriously.. For the record I'm not saying dude is right, but what I AM saying is that ONCE you INTENTIONALLY decide to NOT pay someone you have to accept those consequences.. Then how you gonna owe and KEEP COMING AROUND? That's his bad. The same way once dude decided to swing off on dude he has to accept what happens legally or otherwise. Every choice you make has consequences some hurt more than others.
 
Bad business on both ends. When I sell studio time, I explain my rates. Then I find out how much time the artist wants, collect my money, & write him/her a receipt. If he/she happens to be the type of artist that comes in ready & knocks a session out with time to spare (as I urge them all to be), I write a SECOND receipt detailing the balance of time owed. Both the artist(s) and I know what's up before any work is even started, ELIMINATING the need for anyone to feel played. I do this because it's good business, plus my studio is at my house along with my wife and kids. Can't have BS where ya lay ya head.

I'm gettin flyers together to open up shop a lil broader. This is why I got a new scanner. Artists will have to produce ID when they enter, along with signing a log book. The IDs will be scanned and uploaded to an online location. You gotta learn from the Tru Life/Mobb Deep situation, Pac's 1st shooting incident, Jam Master Jay, and now, this ignorant shit posted above. That shit can't end up no way but bad, jail, counter-ass whoopin', or death. We all know bout backin a cat into a corner. Most real niggas will fight you, but a coward WILL kill u. All they have to do is feel played... and what does that betta than gettin ya ass whooped on youtube.

U know the video goin viral. Don't be surprised if this dude be on the news as a murder victim. Cats don't even realize the shit they set themselves up for. Torment and anguish are grounds for a temporary insanity plea. If dude becomes the victim of that ass whoopin a second time because of constant public scrutiny & ridicule, causing a mental break... need I say more. If that happened to me, and I was ol boy on the ground, I would check myself into the nut house for 72 hours & talk to a shrink. When I get out I would let myself be publicly humiliated about it, start screaming (Julia Roberts caliber scream) bloody murder in the streets and go kill the fuck out that nigga. I'm talkin the whole clip. Then wait for the police with the gun to my head pullin the trigger over & over. I guarantee u I do 6 months in a mental hospital & be home droppin a mixtape by Christmas. Street cred official... na who laughin? ;)
 
Nigga had on sweats with no pockets and some Old Balance sneakers.

He wanted his money.

Dude thought there was some kind of leniency with payment.

:smh:
 
Man... you sound stupid. Since when are there rules to the street? Since when is there a ref? You act like the semi-concious guy is an innocent bystander. How the fuck is it "bitch shit" if the dude squared LIKE A MAN? Dude didn't pay him..., who the fuck are YOU to decide how much that studio cats money meant to HIM? How do you know that man aint need that money to pay medical bills for his mother? How do you know dude doesn't owe another cat? How do you know he didnt need the money to stop the same thing from happening to him? You don't.

Once he crossed the line of NOT PAYING him he was subject to the repercussions that followed... No sympathy for a dishonest cheat. And THEFT of SERVICES is a crime in NEW YORK STATE..you can go to jail for it.........

If there is no issue with the beatdown then there should be no issue with the victim of the beatdown shooting his attacker. Once you choose to escalate a matter in this manner better be ready for the repercussions.
 
And using a studio is no different from using a hotel......http://athens.waff.com/content/police-man-arrested-theft-services.........

You receive the services of a business then you leave without payment... thats theft of services and this dude went to jail for it....
When checking into a hotel there is a presumption that payment is due at arrival or checkout. This guy was informed that his card was declined and he promised management he would take care of his bill prior to departure. He intentionally defrauded the hotel by purposely leaving without paying as agreed. Big difference. You're just wrong on this one bro. Let it go.
Again who are you to say he went too far?.. Let me ask you this. If you owed a cat some money or he was gonna fuck you up or worse...you wouldn't do the same to a dude who owed YOU the money you needed to pay him? Seriously.. For the record I'm not saying dude is right, but what I AM saying is that ONCE you INTENTIONALLY decide to NOT pay someone you have to accept those consequences.. Then how you gonna owe and KEEP COMING AROUND? That's his bad. The same way once dude decided to swing off on dude he has to accept what happens legally or otherwise. Every choice you make has consequences some hurt more than others.
I agree with your basic premise but there is a line that once crossed makes a matter unreasonable and beyond fucked up. An ass whipping was possibly warranted. But to nearly kill a guy over a business debt is too fucking much. And even when partaking in a fight, once the other person clearly is defeated, the point has been made and you need to pump the brakes. Also, lets keep in mind, its not as if the guy was saying "fuck your money". He was merely saying "i will pay you when i get paid from work". Dude went too far man.

Lastly, you cant say that a person needs to accept consequences of their actions but then get pissed when people say the victim would be warranted in coming back blasting.
 
When checking into a hotel there is a presumption that payment is due at arrival or checkout. This guy was informed that his card was declined and he promised management he would take care of his bill prior to departure. He intentionally defrauded the hotel by purposely leaving without paying as agreed. Big difference. You're just wrong on this one bro. Let it go.

I agree with your basic premise but there is a line that once crossed makes a matter unreasonable and beyond fucked up. An ass whipping was possibly warranted. But to nearly kill a guy over a business debt is too fucking much. And even when partaking in a fight, once the other person clearly is defeated, the point has been made and you need to pump the brakes. Also, lets keep in mind, its not as if the guy was saying "fuck your money". He was merely saying "i will pay you when i get paid from work". Dude went too far man.

Lastly, you cant say that a person needs to accept consequences of their actions but then get pissed when people say the victim would be warranted in coming back blasting.


I wasnt talking about this dudes in home project studio. When you go to a real studio like D&D in the 90's you had to sign in like a hotel. You signed into to sessions with an agreement to pay. There is a presumption you or the label will pay at the end of the session...anyway though....

In a sense dude is saying "fuck your money"... You been owing for 2 weeks. He's gotten paid within that 2 weeks. I mean I don't about you but if I owe a cat I'm not gonna keep coming around him knowing I owe him. Then the most deceitful thing is that from what I gathered he came to the INITIAL session with NO MONEY.. so he never intended to pay. Thats like joining the dice game with no money. I'm saying its not our place to say it's too far. You dont know what kind of pressure is on the guy that did that. Maybe a cat is gonna fuck him up if he doesn't get that money you never know...

I wasn't pissed at people saying he was warranted..they said he deserved to get shot. Deserving something to me means you did something worthy of whatever you are receiving. To me beating the shit out of a cat with your hands doesn't mean you DESERVE to get shot. Now he might DESERVE an equal ass whooping but dude did it weapon free. With that said WHATEVER way dude retaliates is cool with me because again once dude decided to beat on dude, he has to accept what comes with it.
 
2 things are gonna come from this

1) ole buddy doing the kicking is going to prison

2) ole buddy doing the kicking is going to die as a result of this being blasted on youtube.
 
I wasnt talking about this dudes in home project studio. When you go to a real studio like D&D in the 90's you had to sign in like a hotel. You signed into to sessions with an agreement to pay. There is a presumption you or the label will pay at the end of the session...anyway though....

In a sense dude is saying "fuck your money"... You been owing for 2 weeks. He's gotten paid within that 2 weeks. I mean I don't about you but if I owe a cat I'm not gonna keep coming around him knowing I owe him. Then the most deceitful thing is that from what I gathered he came to the INITIAL session with NO MONEY.. so he never intended to pay. Thats like joining the dice game with no money. I'm saying its not our place to say it's too far. You dont know what kind of pressure is on the guy that did that. Maybe a cat is gonna fuck him up if he doesn't get that money you never know...

I wasn't pissed at people saying he was warranted..they said he deserved to get shot. Deserving something to me means you did something worthy of whatever you are receiving. To me beating the shit out of a cat with your hands doesn't mean you DESERVE to get shot. Now he might DESERVE an equal ass whooping but dude did it weapon free. With that said WHATEVER way dude retaliates is cool with me because again once dude decided to beat on dude, he has to accept what comes with it.


I feel you 100%. I think a lot of folks do not have experience in a studio therefore they don't know how it would feel to be that situation. You up all day and night tracking, mixing, and possibly mastering for two weeks while the artist is leading you on by making you think he is going to pay. Then finally after the fuck boy gets the gold master and you ask him wheres the guap he busts out with some bullshit story about how he doesnt have the money AFTER you put 80 hrs into his shit. Then has the nerve to even raise his voice at you in the process....fuck that! There is only so much disrespect a man can take.
 
Yup. That Shit was crazy I dont normally promote Black on Black Violence but its a principal to this story..

"Fuck you Pay Me" .....
 
[jewishlayer]
regardless of their negotiation...dude in the high-water sweats will be facing:

Attempted Murder.
Note: Kicking at the head of a defenseless person will get you this charge.

Attempted Robbery.
Note: Shouting "Give up that guap" while assaulting a downed person makes this easy to prosecute.

Assault & Battery.
Note: The victim offered no resistance (apparently), and the video shows this.
[/jewishlayer]

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one more thing for the youngins and this should be common sense .... don't put yourself into the position of being owed so much money you can't charge to the game or if not get your paperwork right ... anything can happen

Round here a few years ago someone killed 3 teenagers in a studio and it could have started like this ... if you deal in a cash business get at least half up front

Studio Dude should have never extended him that much CREDIT to begin with
 
and decides to become the owner of a studio after the settlement.

1-Looks like a housing stairwell to me, likely working out of apartment paid for by city which CANNOT be used as a business without approval from state if I recall.

2-They can't possibly be making much money (assumption) if this dude was getting studio time before paying for it, poor business acumen.

3- He'll be waiting for that money a long time most likely if he does win suit, much less find a lawyer willing to take case.
 
1-Looks like a housing stairwell to me, likely working out of apartment paid for by city which CANNOT be used as a business without approval from state if I recall.

2-They can't possibly be making much money (assumption) if this dude was getting studio time before paying for it, poor business acumen.

3- He'll be waiting for that money a long time most likely if he does win suit, much less find a lawyer willing to take case.

Funny how you not "speaking out" against this
guess since it's a black on black assualt it's
all good!?
 
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