Question for African Americans and Black people from different countries..

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Most African American folks think they are better than Caribbean and Africans so there is no working together

In other words, slavery and colonialism fucked us all up but we'd rather discredit each other than work together.

Finger, i'm going to break it down too.....

1. A lot of African Americans have Caribbean and African roots.
Those that do understand the big picture.
Similarly Caribbean and African people who have relatives in the US understand the big picture.

2. Immigrants to any country are generally harder workers than the resident population.
An immigrant to Jamaica from St Lucia would generally work harder than the resident Jamaican.
If you leave your home country, it is not easy to leave behind family and friends.
That mentality translates into focus.
Same shit with eastern europeans who come to america.

An immigrant mentality is like this: I came from another country, I have no support system but I am going to do whatever to make it.

An immigrant understands that everything in life is dependent on what he does cause there is no support system.

I visited Ellis Island and saw this same tension when Polish, Irish, italian etc were coming to this country to work on the railroads.

So it is not necessarily a race or culture thing.

It's an immigrant coming to compete for resources thing.


3. White Americans are slick.
In my experience, they have tried talking shit about African Americans and I have had to check them.

They assume that black immigrants don't know their history of oppressing African Americans and they try to get into your head before you understand their history.

I will give an example that I give some years back.

A white Sr VP told me that he hates when AA talk in ebonics, they should speak proper english.
I told him that americans speak american english and then I asked him if he has problems with Indians, Chinese and other immigrants who don't speak proper english.

He told me that it is ok for them but not for AA because AAs have lived here all their lives and they should know how to speak proper english.

I then told him I have a problem with americans who think they speak proper english such as valley girls etc..

So he eventually threw in the towel.

But not everyone is like me. Not every one is willing to put their neck out.

But it is important for African Americans to understand that there exist to an extent a courting process to fill immigrants head with bullshit so that they could excuse their guilt.


4. Immigrants come from predominantly 2 classes.
Educated class (both rich & poor) and poorer class

The educated class come to go to universities, may stay on completion and go on to professional jobs.

The poorer class come to work and save money for family members back home. Typically work consists of baby sitting, care takers etc.

Typical areas are hoods in New York, Miami, Philly, DC and any other areas with good public transport systems.
They typically assimilate into speech patterns, attitude and behaviors of those environments just to survive.
These environments are the harsher ones and often immigrants are ridiculed in them.

This does not take place (I haven't seen it, may exists) at the professional level. All groups, African Americans, Caribbean, Africans at this level know the game.



So that is my take in a nut shell.


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Look its true...

Africans and Caribbean people do think they are "better"...

the reason is they feel that Americans have so much more opportunities that they should do better with the resources available to them...

when people have no running water or political coups or no shelter etc.

It is very difficult to sympathize when they see individuals on public assistance and wearing $200 sneakers...

of course this isn't FAIR or even true per se, but many feel this way.

pretty much sums up how I feel about it.:cool:
 
So Fuck You, you live in America, fucked the women, but married an African woman. If you would have said you married a African because being that you are Nigerian and for you its a cultural thing okay. But to state African women aint shit is is just straight up wrong. You are treating Afro American women the way White people treat us. Not to mention if AA aren't shit perhaps you picked bad women, and why fuck with any woman that is fucked up. What does that say about you?
 
BiGirl,I have heard the same thing from college professors, and it was explained to me, that the Caribbean was not always the great getaway that it is now. Most white slave owners did not want to be so far from home, not to mention there was a much larger population of slaves vs whites. They were afraid especially after what happened in Haiti. It was easier to leave behind some unimportant whites, and overseers.


Do I believe that? Nope. A slave anywhere under any condition is beyond messed up. Now perhaps someone on the board can explain all the hostility toward the great nation of Trinidad and Tobago?:lol:
 
I understand the intent of the question,however its stupid and pointless,no diss.

Japanese think they better than Chinese

Italians think they better than Portuguese

English think they better than the Irish

Dominicans think they better than Haitians

Russians think they better than Georgians

Indians think they better than sri lankans

serbs and croats etc...etc...etc....
 


It's a media perception thing.


Racism needs to justify the treatment of non-white peoples.


So while whites are judged by their best,

Blacks are judged by their worst


That includes:

1. Images of starving Africans

2. Nigerian scammers

3. Failed state countries

4. Ignorant rappers

5. Over representation of black crime even though white commit far more crimes

6. The black rapist even though most sexual assaults are intra-racial

7. The over sexed black woman even though most strippers and porn "actresses" are white

8. Delinquent black youth even though white youth stats on drug use, sex etc far exceed that of black kids

I can go on all day..........




So you have most people including ourselves judging ourselves by our worst.

And despite the amount of white pedophiles, white domestic terrorists, white "white" collar criminals, failed Wall Street CEOs, trailer parks even with white privilege........... we non-wites still perceive whites to be the standard to aspire to.





Fucked up I tell you.


I'm getting a little tired of the ignorance in here though.


I'll have to peace out soon and let some one else step in here.

It's 2012, I would have thought we would have figured out the game by now especailly with the internt available to fact check the shit you believe.



Oh well......


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people are so brainwashed, they believe that having money so that they can acquire more amero-euro branded goods than somebody else is "progress"...you try to break shit down to them like this and they look at you like:hmm:...and it isn't just young people, its' anyone who believes in this "we are the world" post racial bullshit.
 
The programing of divide and conquer is what we got to overcome. There is always the threat that if blacks were to separate, there is always the danger to the enemies of truth that we could get our true identity back. Elijah Muhammad was right when he said that whites are devils and blacks are God. For a black man to say he is God is simply a person saying that he is a man.

Unless you are less than a man. When the Constitution was wrote blacks were considered to be one fifth of a man. And you could be 45 years old and a white 17 would still call you a boy.

Our genes makes it possible to be completely natural and overcome this world controlled by an unnatural force.

http://blacknation.vpweb.com/

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I understand the intent of the question,however its stupid and pointless,no diss.

Japanese think they better than Chinese

Italians think they better than Portuguese

English think they better than the Irish

Dominicans think they better than Haitians

Russians think they better than Georgians

Indians think they better than sri lankans

serbs and croats etc...etc...etc....

i agree that the issue is stupid and somewhat pointless, but disagree with the example you use because they don't identify themselves as the same race....but :cool:
 
This thread is just stupid. Not happy about the stereotypical comments about people based on where they are from and not as a an individual.
 
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