Pope Francis dies at 88

I'm not religious at all and don't put much stock in their respective leaders but as popes go he seemed fairly decent and made an attempt to bring some tolerance and change to his religion.

They need to choose a younger pope this time if they want some stability in that role.

It's going to be interesting to see who they choose especially considering how unstable things in the world are right now.
I think that was the "issue" with John Paul II. He was only 58 when he became pope. He was considered too young and his leadership lasted 28 years. Which was a wild swing from the Pope before him, John Paul I, whom only lasted 1 month before he died at 65. At that time, they, the church, wanted to go younger due to the potential health issues in seniors.

However, they overcorrected. There was now a generation of catholics that went from babies to adults under JPII's tenure. He became the "Church" more than the church itself and it messed with a lot of people when he died. Like a family member had passed away. Sorta like what happened with FDR & why the US reinforced the 2 term rule for future Presidents after his death in office. The church wanted to go older with Popes going forward so that people wouldn't form so tight of an attachment to the "figure head" & his mandates.

Yet once again; it seems that they've over corrected. I want to say this will be the 3rd pope in 20 years. Which is a bit of a shock for people that pretty much went most of their life under one guy (pause). Even though the previous Pope quit. He would've had a 17 year run had he seen it through to 2022 when he died. I guess that's the risk of having a "for life title". You never know when that exit day is going to happen.
 
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Sidebar, yall remember there was some controversy about what he saw when he went through some gates or something at the start of the New Year? They say he seemed scared and hesitant. Some, myself included, said he saw his demise and the end of the world & thats why he was rattled.
 
I think that was the "issue" with John Paul II. He was only 58 when he became pope. He was considered too young and his leadership lasted 28 years. Which was a wild swing from the Pope before him, John Paul I, whom only lasted 1 month before he died at 65. At that time, they, the church, wanted to go younger due to the potential health issues in seniors.

However, they overcorrected. There was now a generation of catholics that went from babies to adults under JPII's tenure. He became the "Church" more than the church itself and it messed with a lot of people when he died. Like a family member had passed away. Sorta like what happened with FDR & why the US reinforced the 2 term rule for future Presidents after his death in office. The church wanted to go older with Popes going forward so that people wouldn't form so tight of an attachment to the "figure head" & his mandates.

Yet once again; it seems that they've over corrected. I want to say this will be the 3rd pope in 20 years. Which is a bit of a shock for people that pretty much went most of their life under one guy (pause). Even though the previous Pope quit. He would've had a 17 year run had he seen it through to 2022 when he died. I guess that's the risk of having a "for life title". You never know when that exit day is going to happen.
John Paul was Polish and it served in the Cold War military-industrial complex.
 
:idea:Co-worker said the same thing, we will know the truth when the new Pope is elected and how he moves forward. Would be crazy that a MAGA thinking Pope would get chosen.:dunno:

that's the biggest challenge in the upcoming election, it's going to be a hard fought battle but it's not a lost cause, I won't get in any public discourse here about this topic but seriously even if you're a not a Catholic, pray the world escapes a fascist at the Holy Seat cause there is a real threat and Francis actually fought them as hard as he could
 
Rest in PIss muthafucka. The whole pope society ain't shit too much fuck shit has come out of that organization as a whole.
 
the leader of the most corrupt,powerful,lying,decitful organization in world history has died. the shit the Catholic church has done cant even be put into words. the child molestation shit doesnt even make the top 10. every war every colonization every event has been oked by that church. remember they created Jesus Christ in 326 AD and that act has controlled the world ever since
 
I forgot my guy Pope Benedict isn't here anymore. He was a real one to step down if he wasn't physically able to fulfill his duties. Or maybe it was something else but we'll probably never know.

The smoke from the chimney when they trying to decide the new pope will be must see tv. Especially in this new social media age.
 
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