Patriots owner: Brady is better than Montana

Is Robert Craft Right

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    Votes: 27 26.0%
  • No

    Votes: 77 74.0%

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lol really tho

peyton got the luckiest superbowl ever of all time.

rex grossman gave indy D the ball 5 times.


and peyton only threw 1 TD pass in that game and they scored 29 points

peyton only had 6 of those points.

then cedric benson bitched up and left the game.

oh man don't get me started
 
So those two Superbowls came after 1970.

wrong.

the games you cited were 1966 and 1969. both PRE-NFL

but let's not derail the topic.

i got joe montana. his receiving corps was willie davis, j.j. birden and keith cash. kimble anders and marcus allen in the backfield. joe montana took that chiefs squad to the AFC championship. at age 37.
 
peyton got the luckiest superbowl ever of all time.

rex grossman gave indy D the ball 5 times.


and peyton only threw 1 TD pass in that game and they scored 29 points

peyton only had 6 of those points.

this is 1 of the reasons why there is some intrigue about this season. how will peyton manning perform in a brand new system with brand new personnel?

it will answer more questions than if he had retired a colt.
 
craft old ass smoking some good potent shit aint he

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Montana over brady. I take Eli Manning over brady, no disrespect to brady. Eli old school qb. Don't like OP's Eli dis. Eli is an elite QB, top five. He proofed it last year. Eli is peyton manning + ben rothlesburger rolled in one. P.S. not a gaints fan, just saying.
 
Montana over brady. I take Eli Manning over brady, no disrespect to brady. Eli old school qb. Don't like OP's Eli dis. Eli is an elite QB, top five. He proofed it last year. Eli is peyton manning + ben rothlesburger rolled in one. P.S. not a gaints fan, just saying.

you don't have to apologize for taking eli over brady
eli is undefeated against brady in the super bowl
 
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I'm a Giants fan and I remember how he would have that ball out of there in a fukn heartbeat. Unfortunately, I can't ever say with a straight face that any quarterback from this "red-jersey", pass-friendly era can ever see quartbacks back then. Wouldn't last a season. Some of ya'll remember the hits Craig, Moon, Montana, Theissman (DAAAMN!!), and others took. Brady would sh*t himself - and I still respect his game.

:yes: Yessir :yes:

When you're right you're right
 
When you're right you're right


yup ...remember when back in the day there wasnt no none of this

when ur out the pocket u can throw the dam balls in the stands...:hmm:

u had to eat that shit & get ur ass ate up....:cool:
 
Eli isn't an elite quarterback.

That nigga is inconsistent as fuck.

Besides those two Superbowl runs, he usually gets knocked out of the first round of the playoffs or misses it entirely.

Good qb, yes.

Elite, no.
 
Brady is good when his offensive line gives him plenty of time to throw but if he has any pressure on him he is terrible. I think any qb in the league would win on that team.P Manning is 1 of the greatest regular season QB's but is also 1 of the worst post season QB's. It's funny that before the league changed the way cornerbacks can play the wide receivers some of the QB'S mentioned was only throwing for like 3000 yards per season.
 
Eli isn't an elite quarterback.

That nigga is inconsistent as fuck.

Besides those two Superbowl runs, he usually gets knocked out of the first round of the playoffs or misses it entirely.

Good qb, yes.

Elite, no.

:lol:
 
I really hate them niggas with a passion..I hope Bengals take care of business so we can settle the score with bitchboy Brady and company :please:
 
I really hate them niggas with a passion..I hope Bengals take care of business so we can settle the score with bitchboy Brady and company :please:

you stay talking a lot of shit A$AP SaVaGe!!:smh::smh:
don't ask for a check your team can't cash!!

Patriots are that colts chin checker!!

colts record vs patriots.........

2012=0-1
2011=0-2
2010=0-2



 
Montana did not play in the "Don t touch the QB, cause they wear a skirt" league.......

He played in the "Kill the Quarterback" league...where Brady would have never survived....that dude is too soft in the middle.

When Brady gets hit....he is very very average.......

Montana was not average even after getting hit.....

and Montana has 4 Rings......
 
The game is different today, shorter passes are now the norm. Its difficult to say but I believe Montana would be just as successful within the Patriots system as Brady.

Now the real question is would Brady be able to match Montana's numbers with the longer passes and the same accuracy. I say Brady's numbers would drop.
 
First,what do you expect the owner to say...

Second,it is not out of the question...as was said,Montana was one and done 3x.

If the Patriots win this year,that will cement Brady and Belichick as the greatest duo ever.

Not to mention it will shut-up all of the SpyGate shit...to which I always say,so what...they cheated,the championships stand.

They have been to 2 Super Bowls since SpyGate....and it took 2 miracle plays to beat them.
If SpyGate was so relevant to their success,they would not be in contention EVERY year.
Most of the venom spoken about it,is by folks who are mad their team didn't think of it:lol:
 
man some of yall acting like it's not even debatable right now. I've been a Patriots fan all of my life growing up in New England but I'll give the edge to Montana strictly off the level of competition or moreso lack of rules

Its hard to compare different eras. I don't think Tom or Peyton could play back then but then again I don't think those past guys can play at the current level either.

If Brady wins another SB and shines, I might have to change my answer
 
Montana did not play in the "Don t touch the QB, cause they wear a skirt" league.......

He played in the "Kill the Quarterback" league...where Brady would have never survived....that dude is too soft in the middle.

When Brady gets hit....he is very very average.......

Montana was not average even after getting hit.....

and Montana has 4 Rings......

Both Brady and Manning get the happy feet. There is no comparison. If someone is gonna pass Montana, it won't be Brady or Manning. Manning is a regular season god... but dude been choking in the playoffs since he says in Tennessee
 
man some of yall acting like it's not even debatable right now. I've been a Patriots fan all of my life growing up in New England but I'll give the edge to Montana strictly off the level of competition or moreso lack of rules

Its hard to compare different eras. I don't think Tom or Peyton could play back then but then again I don't think those past guys can play at the current level either.

If Brady wins another SB and shines, I might have to change my answer

man please.
if he could play at that level when it was harder
how on earth couldn't he play above that level now that its easier?
and then you say you don't think tom could play back then on their level?
Montana was undefeated in the sb when it was harder
had 2 rings before rice stepped onto the field.
and by your own admission you don't think brady could have done it back then.....

Brady is not there with Montana, period.
 
Montana over brady. I take Eli Manning over brady, no disrespect to brady. Eli old school qb. Don't like OP's Eli dis. Eli is an elite QB, top five. He proofed it last year. Eli is peyton manning + ben rothlesburger rolled in one. P.S. not a gaints fan, just saying.

Naw... Eli will win you the game... but he will also lose it. I wouldn't take Eli or Brady. Give Brady time and he will pick you a fucking part. he's a system QB but the best system QB of all-time in that regard... he will never be GOAT status though. Eli is a beast but as much as he delivered, he also had world-class defenses that made up the difference.
 
Both Brady and Manning get the happy feet. There is no comparison. If someone is gonna pass Montana, it won't be Brady or Manning. Manning is a regular season god... but dude been choking in the playoffs since he says in Tennessee

it can't be either already.

next generation of qb has to do it. if it can be done.
 
man please.
if he could play at that level when it was harder
how on earth couldn't he play above that level now that its easier?
and then you say you don't think tom could play back then on their level?
Montana was undefeated in the sb when it was harder
had 2 rings before rice stepped onto the field.
and by your own admission you don't think brady could have done it back then.....

Brady is not there with Montana, period.

Shit. I went to school with Brady and a fan... but it's not even close. Montana was winning titles with his arm. Brady definitely put them in position, but at the end of the game, it was up to the damn kicker to win the game. Montana was MONEY in the clutch.... Brady is a clutch pass but if you put pressure on him, he starts to get happy feet. He doesn't deal with pressure like Montana. Montana is the epitome of a clutch pass who doesn't get happy feet under pressure.

Manning is another muthafucka that gets rid of the ball too quickly when the defense starts to get on that ass.... that is why he fucks up in the post season (dealing with better defenses)
 
it can't be either already.

next generation of qb has to do it. if it can be done.

I don't even see this current generation doing it. Who are the best Qbs of this generation outside of the two we just mentioned? Brees and Rodgers? Neither of them will pass Montana...

If you look at the young guys: newton, russell, RG3, Luck.... hard to judge players who are so young but Newton is unfortunately in an organization that doesn't have a history of excellence so he just won't likely put up enough wins, luck is a damn good prospect but I worry about his decision-making, RG3 most likely won't have a long career if he keeps taking hits like this, and Russell has had a great year but the jury is still out of him....

when I watched Montana as a kid... he was like Jordan, you KNEW he was gonna deliver in the big game....no doubt about it.... I compare Montant to athletes from other sports... jordan, gretsky, etc

of all the QBs we've mentioned, Manning had the best chance, but dude chokes in the big games
 
man please.
if he could play at that level when it was harder
how on earth couldn't he play above that level now that its easier?
and then you say you don't think tom could play back then on their level?
Montana was undefeated in the sb when it was harder
had 2 rings before rice stepped onto the field.
and by your own admission you don't think brady could have done it back then.....

Brady is not there with Montana, period.

I never said it was harder. The game is different than it was. There's drawbacks and advances with both. With the playcalling on defenses and the athletes that play now, I think any star from the past would have trouble playing in today's game and continue to be as productive as they were in their time. Same goes for today's current stars. Manning and Brady would quiver in a corner with the physicalness of the game back then, not including how crazy the rules were.

I'm not saying there aren't stars that transcend time in terms of how superior they were, I'm just saying they would be different players...Including Brady and Montana
 
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