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Once again Disney outsmarted asshole DeSantis.
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That's pretty hyperbolic and not true.
Florida was the fastest growing state in 2022. That's not just retirees and snowbirds. People are flocking to Florida because of the low cost of living while being able to work remotely.
Georgia represents the second highest source of people moving here. Obviously southern Georgia has the exact same weather as northern Florida so it's not just the weather attracting people.
If Disney were to leave, it wouldn't be good for Central Florida. But it wouldn't stop the hundreds of thousands of people who are moving here from New York, New Jersey, and Chicago.
Funny thing is, I recently read how expensive it is there in a completely unrelated context. I'm not sure if it's thread on BGOL or what.
Either way, climate change is real and will be affecting the state more and more in the coming years.
Not a Florida expert but everywhere I been down there is expensive as fuck. Don’t know what he’s talking about.
The state runs on cheap labor and pensions from retirees. If you were to take away the largest employer of the aforementioned cheap labor, all that’s left is the Bingo-Shuffleboard Crowd. Surely you don’t think that is sufficient to run and operate the state.
Florida is more than Miami and is still cheaper than other regions.
No shit.
Median sale price of homes in Orlando:
$345k
Median sale price of homes in Jacksonville:
$290k
Median sale price of homes in New York:
$760k
Median sale price of homes in Newark:
$400k
Florida is also cheaper due to no state tax.
How does that compare to home prices in other major Southern cities? You mentioned it wasn't just ppl from the cold regions moving down there.Florida is more than Miami and is still cheaper than other regions.
No shit.
Median sale price of homes in Orlando:
$345k
Median sale price of homes in Jacksonville:
$290k
Median sale price of homes in New York:
$760k
Median sale price of homes in Newark:
$400k
Florida is also cheaper due to no state tax.
What are some of the major employers in FL? Do they have a burgeoning tech and/or bio sector? I'm still not convinced it's mostly people who've made money elsewhere who're largely moving down there.
The warmer weather will always be a selling point, but it's not the sole reason people come here. The huge increase in people who are coming here versus before the pandemic is largely due to Desantis' stance towards covid and cost of living.
"Florida has seen an influx of remote workers due to its low cost of living, with Jacksonville and Northeast Florida in particular seeming to be popular spots for remote work."
"When compared to other major Southeastern cities, such as Charlotte, Nashville, Atlanta, Orlando and Tampa, the cost of living in Jacksonville is typically lower.
Part of this cost-of-living gap is the cost of school, Wallace said.
Compared to other metropolitan areas in which parents may want to send their children to private schools, Clay, Nassau and St. Johns counties are three of the top 10 public school districts of Florida's 67 counties."
Out of Office: Northeast Florida attracts remote workers, sees community growth
Florida has seen an influx of remote workers due to its low cost of living. Jacksonville and Northeast Florida seem to be especially popular.
www.jacksonville.com
"During the coronavirus pandemic, many New Yorkers who could work remotely and were looking for warmer climates and more affordable housing options left the city in droves."
"Jackie Bild, a real estate agent at Douglas Elliman based in Miami, says she has worked with a lot of New Yorkers moving to the state, especially since the pandemic.
"People talk about the Florida lifestyle and weather, but they also say government policy, like when during COVID when our city was more open and lenient on things, as another reason why they came here," she says. "
"New York’s top income tax rate is 10.9%, and in New York City, the top rate is 3.876%. So, if you live and work in New York City, you could be paying a combined rate of up to 14.8%. In Florida, you pay zero in income tax anywhere you live."
New Yorkers are the No.1 movers to Florida. Find out why.
Since at least 2016, the Empire State has topped the list for sending its residents to the Sunshine State, data from the Census Bureau shows.
www.usatoday.com
This crackkka ass crackkka is a glutton for punishment I see
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DeSantis: I’ll kill Reedy Creek deal, consider hotel tax, tolls for Disney World
Escalating an already hot feud, Gov. Ron DeSantis says he plans to work with the Legislature to void the Reedy Creek deal with Disney that stripped the new board of its power and consider hotel taxes and tolls at Disney World. “Come hell or high water, we’re going to make sure that the policy of...
A lot of people in Florida, including the people who voted for him. I’ll beginning to hate his ass. Oh hurricane season is fast approaching hell something pop up next week.
Lol
Meanwhile there's no gas in south Florida
You know how it goes down here, it's the cut your nose to spite your face state!
Legally, they cannot do that. My goodness these people are dumb as hell. The mouse is sitting back laughing at them.
Legally and Florida don't really go hand in hand lol the amount of dumb down here supercedes logic, thought, the law, even self preservation.
Florida is the new Texas.
I hope the don't vote people realize how bad this dumb fuck would be for our country and come out in droves it he ends up with the nomination.
He can not be elected president, if you guys thought dumb as trump was bad(a man who's basically just a rich egomaniac without a working brain or plan) imagine a deeply ideological racist with a brain and a plan as your next president. This guy is bad fucking news.
I’m so sick of DeSantis
Desantis dropping bombs now.... suggesting different things for state owned land around Disney...... "a state park, try to do more amusemant parks......someone even said to me, maybe you need another state prison, who knows" while laughing..... yucking it up
He got burned by the mouse, and keeps fucking with the mouse, he's a literal genius.... a virtuoso of intelligence
sidebar: the Trump playbook.... "someone said"
www.thedailybeast.com
He got burned by the mouse, and keeps fucking with the mouse, he's a literal genius.... a virtuoso of intelligence
sidebar: the Trump playbook.... "someone said"
DeSantis Tosses Out Idea for State Prison Next to Disney World
DeSantis Tosses Out Idea for State Prison Next to Disney World
“I just think that the possibilities are endless!”
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This has nothing to do with the thread topicOh by the way……
In a sense it does It shows how pathetic the governor is because he’s still hasn’t made his way to Fort Lauderdale.
‘So unnecessary’: Republicans pile on DeSantis over Disney
“I don’t think Ron DeSantis is a conservative, based on his actions towards Disney,” Chris Christie said.
By KIERRA FRAZIER
04/18/2023 09:33 AM EDT
Updated: 04/18/2023
www.politico.com
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and other potential GOP presidential hopefuls slammed Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ handling of his ongoing feud with Disney this week.
“That’s not the guy I want sitting across from President Xi [Jinping] ... or sitting across from [President Vladimir] Putin and trying to resolve what’s happening in Ukraine, if you can’t see around a corner [Disney CEO] Bob Iger created for you,” Christie said Tuesday during a livestreamed interview with Semafor, adding: “I don’t think Ron DeSantis is a conservative, based on his actions towards Disney.”
DeSantis has been in a back-and-forth with Disney over the control over the thousands of acres that’s home to the Magic Kingdom and other theme parks. In February, Disney quietly, through a bureaucratic vote, gained back control of the Orlando-area park — though state officials didn’t learn of it until March. Disney’s move left DeSantis administration officials scrambling to respond, and the governor ordered an investigation into the California-based corporation. DeSantis is widely expected to run for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, but has not yet announced his bid.
Former President Donald Trump also criticized DeSantis’ feud with Disney on Tuesday, writing in a Truth Social post that DeSantis is being “absolutely destroyed by Disney.”
“Disney’s next move will be the announcement that no more money will be invested in Florida because of the Governor — In fact, they could even announce a slow withdrawal or sale of certain properties, or the whole thing. Watch! That would be a killer. In the meantime, this is all so unnecessary, a political STUNT! Ron should work on the squatter MESS!” Trump said.
New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu, who has strongly hinted at a 2024 bid, said DeSantis’ feud with Disney is becoming a tit-for-tat because it’s not going as he had planned.
“Look, this has gone from kind of going after a headline to something that has devolved into an issue, and it convolutes the entire Republican message,” Sununu said on CNN on Monday night. “I just don’t think — it’s not good for Governor DeSantis. I don’t think it’s good for the Republican party.”
The Nikki Haley-launched leadership PAC Stand for America PAC said in a statement that after the Florida governor’s latest bid to “one-up Mickey Mouse after a devastating and embarrassing blow to his efforts to rein in Disney World, Ron DeSantis has proposed some new neighbors to the amusement park – criminals.” The former ambassador to the United Nations launched her presidential bid in February.
The PAC’s statement references DeSantis’ comments Monday that Florida might consider building a prison next to land owned by Disney.
Bryan Griffin, a spokesperson for DeSantis, said in a statement that “there’s no need to respond to any critics” because DeSantis had a news conference on the matter on Monday, and the “governor very clearly laid out his philosophy behind his efforts.”
“Disney had extraordinary special privileges and an unfair special advantage compared to other businesses in the state,” Griffin said.
At that news conference, DeSantis announced that the GOP-controlled Florida Legislature would try to change state law to subject the company theme parks to new inspections, and said Disney was “not superior to the laws that are enacted by the people of the state of Florida. That’s not going to work, that’s not going to fly.”
In his Tuesday interview, Christie said that he’d make a decision in the next couple of weeks on whether he’ll run for president in 2024. Christie was seen speaking to more than three dozen of his former staffers and advisers on Monday night in Washington about a possible 2024 presidential run.
“If we go forward, we want all of you to be with us,” Christie told the room on Monday. “Thank you to all of you for everything you’ve already done for us. It’s been really, really an amazing ride. And you know what? It might not just be over yet.”
Christie said on Tuesday that the field for 2024 looked “vacant compared to what I dealt with in 2016.”
“I don’t think Ron DeSantis is a conservative, based on his actions towards Disney,” Chris Christie said.
By KIERRA FRAZIER
04/18/2023 09:33 AM EDT
Updated: 04/18/2023
‘So unnecessary’: Republicans pile on DeSantis over Disney
“I don’t think Ron DeSantis is a conservative, based on his actions towards Disney,” Chris Christie said.
www.politico.com
Former New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie and other potential GOP presidential hopefuls slammed Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis’ handling of his ongoing feud with Disney this week.
“That’s not the guy I want sitting across from President Xi [Jinping] ... or sitting across from [President Vladimir] Putin and trying to resolve what’s happening in Ukraine, if you can’t see around a corner [Disney CEO] Bob Iger created for you,” Christie said Tuesday during a livestreamed interview with Semafor, adding: “I don’t think Ron DeSantis is a conservative, based on his actions towards Disney.”
DeSantis has been in a back-and-forth with Disney over the control over the thousands of acres that’s home to the Magic Kingdom and other theme parks. In February, Disney quietly, through a bureaucratic vote, gained back control of the Orlando-area park — though state officials didn’t learn of it until March. Disney’s move left DeSantis administration officials scrambling to respond, and the governor ordered an investigation into the California-based corporation. DeSantis is widely expected to run for the 2024 GOP presidential nomination, but has not yet announced his bid.
Former President Donald Trump also criticized DeSantis’ feud with Disney on Tuesday, writing in a Truth Social post that DeSantis is being “absolutely destroyed by Disney.”
“Disney’s next move will be the announcement that no more money will be invested in Florida because of the Governor — In fact, they could even announce a slow withdrawal or sale of certain properties, or the whole thing. Watch! That would be a killer. In the meantime, this is all so unnecessary, a political STUNT! Ron should work on the squatter MESS!” Trump said.
New Hampshire Gov. Chris Sununu, who has strongly hinted at a 2024 bid, said DeSantis’ feud with Disney is becoming a tit-for-tat because it’s not going as he had planned.
“Look, this has gone from kind of going after a headline to something that has devolved into an issue, and it convolutes the entire Republican message,” Sununu said on CNN on Monday night. “I just don’t think — it’s not good for Governor DeSantis. I don’t think it’s good for the Republican party.”
The Nikki Haley-launched leadership PAC Stand for America PAC said in a statement that after the Florida governor’s latest bid to “one-up Mickey Mouse after a devastating and embarrassing blow to his efforts to rein in Disney World, Ron DeSantis has proposed some new neighbors to the amusement park – criminals.” The former ambassador to the United Nations launched her presidential bid in February.
The PAC’s statement references DeSantis’ comments Monday that Florida might consider building a prison next to land owned by Disney.
Bryan Griffin, a spokesperson for DeSantis, said in a statement that “there’s no need to respond to any critics” because DeSantis had a news conference on the matter on Monday, and the “governor very clearly laid out his philosophy behind his efforts.”
“Disney had extraordinary special privileges and an unfair special advantage compared to other businesses in the state,” Griffin said.
At that news conference, DeSantis announced that the GOP-controlled Florida Legislature would try to change state law to subject the company theme parks to new inspections, and said Disney was “not superior to the laws that are enacted by the people of the state of Florida. That’s not going to work, that’s not going to fly.”
In his Tuesday interview, Christie said that he’d make a decision in the next couple of weeks on whether he’ll run for president in 2024. Christie was seen speaking to more than three dozen of his former staffers and advisers on Monday night in Washington about a possible 2024 presidential run.
“If we go forward, we want all of you to be with us,” Christie told the room on Monday. “Thank you to all of you for everything you’ve already done for us. It’s been really, really an amazing ride. And you know what? It might not just be over yet.”
Christie said on Tuesday that the field for 2024 looked “vacant compared to what I dealt with in 2016.”
The Enormous Numbers DeSantis’ Fight With Disney
This shit is even crazier ...
So these fools now have proposed a law seeking to nullify the last minute Disney deal.
Yes you heard me right...
They are seeking to retroactively nullify a contract!!!! through legislation ......
Ron DeSantis launches new effort to curb power of ‘woke’ Disney
Lawyers say Florida governor’s proposals for company’s theme park complex could be open to challengeThe latest push by Florida governor Ron DeSantis to curb Disney’s power in the state is expected to sail through the state’s Republican-led legislature in the next two weeks, but critics say his proposals face legal challenges. DeSantis is seeking to unwind a last-minute action by Disney that neutered the power of the governor’s handpicked board to oversee the area surrounding the company’s Orlando theme park complex. The outgoing board granted Disney the right to oversee the district in perpetuity just before DeSantis’ appointees took over. It dealt an embarrassing blow to DeSantis, whose war on “woke Disney” had lifted his national profile ahead of an expected run for the 2024 Republican presidential nomination. A bill currently in the Florida legislature would reverse Disney’s move, which the new board has called “a blatant effort to attempt to subvert the will of the people of Florida”. The draft proposal says a special tax district — such as the one Disney controlled for more than 50 years — would not be allowed to honour any agreement “executed within three months” of a law changing the composition of its board. The bill does not mention Disney by name, but the timeline matches the Disney board episode. Attorneys and Democratic lawmakers say retroactively nullifying a contract in this manner is potentially illegal under the US and Florida constitutions. “Disney has a contractual right and the state can’t just take away that right by legislative decision whenever it wants,” said Jacob Schumer, an attorney at the Florida law firm of Shepard, Smith, Kohlmyer & Hand. “There is no basis in which it can get around the constitutional protections for contracts.”
Anna Eskamani, a Democratic representative in the Florida House of Representatives, said: “We can’t just retroactively cancel a contract we don’t like. “This is another example of DeSantis being punitive toward one company that has made him mad,” she added. In a meeting last week, a lawyer for the new board said Disney’s moves were “riddled with illegality, and they will not withstand judicial scrutiny”. Disney, which declined to comment, has given no indication that it intends to take legal action. Bob Iger, chief executive, declared this month that DeSantis’ moves on Disney following last year’s “Don’t Say Gay” controversy were “anti-business and anti-Florida”. Iger has also said DeSantis decided to “retaliate” against the company for its position on the Florida law that limits what teachers can say in public schools about LGBT+ issues. Iger’s charge of “retaliation” could form the basis of another legal argument — that Florida was punishing Disney for exercising its right to freedom of speech, legal experts say. “Disney at any time can say that all of this is in retaliation for their protected speech,” Schumer said. “They always have that argument in their back pocket.” He added that Disney is in the unusual position of paying for the lawyers that are fighting it on behalf of the new board members. “All of the tax money that funds the new district now controlled by the governor’s appointees is tax money from Disney,” he said. “Disney is actually paying the attorneys that are fighting them in court.” DeSantis’ latest push against Disney — launched last week in a press conference in which he mused about opening a prison on company property in Orlando — comes as the Florida governor appears to have lost ground to former President Donald Trump in national polls. Trump last week attacked DeSantis, writing on his social media site that the Florida governor is “being absolutely destroyed by Disney”. DeSantis has also lost the support of some big Republican donors and members of the Florida Republican delegation. “DeSantis thought he had a big winning issue with bringing Disney and ‘woke’ to heel,” said Aubrey Jewett, a political-science professor at the University of Central Florida. “And then all of a sudden it seemed like he had been outsmarted by Disney.”
He added that DeSantis still remains popular in the state but there is a sense that some Republican members of the legislature would like him to cool the rhetoric on Disney, the state’s largest employer. But more proposals to curb Disney’s power are expected. The DeSantis-appointed oversight board is expected to introduce new rules that would require state inspections of Disney rides such as the Monorail. Eskamani said the amendment being discussed does not mention inspections for amusement park rides owned by other companies such as Universal or Sea World. “There should be state oversight [of rides]” she said. “But DeSantis only talked about oversight over Disney and their rides. Any type of punitive targeted measure I think will have a legal case. The question is how public does Disney want to be in their opposition.
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There is no way that this shit is going to pass constitutional muster..... nO FREAKING WAY...
Desantis and his crew are going to end up wasting millions of taxpayer funds on this shit.
Not going to lie.... As a Lawyer... I'm all in on this fight. Of all the companies on the damn planet to go after... You go after one that is worth more then most small countries.
I hope they win. He is a vindictive asshole.
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