Yep. Addition by subtraction.
Official Memphis Grizzlies vs Oklahoma City Thunder Playoff Thread
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Yep. Addition by subtraction.
beatdown and eewwll, it's worse than the GASOL trade to L.A.?
Yep. Because eventually the Memphis got the other Gasol out of it who has turned out to be a really good player.
The Thunder traded away the second best shooting guard in the league who still has 10 years left in his career at a minumum. That's mad stupid. That's epic stupidity there. And they executed the trade unnecessarily and pretty much got nothing for him that is remotely qualifies as adequate compensation unless a guy like Lamb ends up turning into a star (which is as likely as Iverson getting another chance in the league).
You don't break up teams that have a chance to win a title EARLY.Get back to the finals and take a chance. Plus, they got the gift of the amnesty. They could have applied the amnesty clause to Perkins and paid Harden too. The real problem is that Harden was probably tired of coming off the bench. He would have stayed if they would have offered the right money and made him a starter. He didnt want to leave.
People keep thinking what was Ibaka or Harden. This was Harden or Perkins.
Thats right. No one to match up w Perkins. But still....he played a lot better last year.
Kobe and Durant will both be watching LeBron and the Heat from their couch. The cream rises to the top.
KD will get his once he gets that kill in him and Kobe is sitting on a throne looking down at the rest of the league so what's your point? I think KD can do it without having to have an all star cast around him and the NBA holding his hand
He just thinking about the $$$. They in Oklahoma afterall. Heat can't even afford 3 max niggas you think OKC could've? Plus Ibaka? Thunder just got put into a fucked up situation. They drafted too well for their own good.
I got nothing to worry about bro. If the truth hurts that bad by all means ock away you'll wasting your time
Bruh any team can afford 3 max players the difference is who's willing to take a pay cut?
Heat are the exception bron wade bosh took pay cuts... To continue winning with their nucleus they will take another pay cut...
where did you get that
found it on twitter
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Ibaka took a pay but though and Harden said he was willing to as well to get an extension. They could have got Perkins off the books to make it work.
I agree with your other part. There should be an extra cap-space item for a team that wants to keep a player they drafted.
Not trying to sound funny, but Dude you are wrong about everything..
He's the most delusional Kobe stan on the board. Bragging bout how much "heart" a dude who didnt even appear in this year's playoffs got.
He's the most delusional Kobe stan on the board. Bragging bout how much "heart" a dude who didnt even appear in this year's playoffs got.
mofos forget when kobe literally quit on his team in game 7 vs Phoenix in 06.
dude scored 8 pts & just passed the bball around while Phoenix blew out the lakers.
that's the day i lost respect for kobe as a player & as a man.
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that's the ultimate point.
the owners were so stupid that they shit on themselves
they were so worried about players going to big market teams that they ruined the small market teams.
i went at them at length before the harden and during the harden and after the harden.
how it blew up in everyone's face and it still hasn't stopped not 1 star from leaving the small market and going to the big market. all it's done is made the small markets lose for doing their jobs.
the thunder drafted well. and because of the owners they weren't even able to keep the talent that they drafted.
dumbest shit in the world. presti was and is a dumb ass for making the trade. i was on record saying the trade in theory wasn't bad for the pieces they got. i still feel that way because they got a bench player which dumb ass brooks proved he was going to use harden as and they got some young pieces that unfortunately brooks has no idea how to use. (how can't lamb get some minutes in this series with all the long wings memphis use?)
I felt that they both were playing hard ball and Presti trying to be the man smarter than everyone traded him like he didn't need him, which i didn't agree with. I also felt like Harden kind of snaked the team (those who feel like players need to get their money disagree and that's fine) but it looked to me like there was a pact between the 4 of them to make it work.
on top of perkins still playing and not being taken off the books like he should have been its a cluster fuck that he can't take back.
the only move this dude can make now is the right one which is to fire scott brooks.
this loss on this team has more to do with brooks than any other factor. kd with a good coach and these dudes is still good enough to push this series. a coach who plays people who can do what needs to be done not a coach who is too stupid to make simple adjustments.
Harden showed up extra smedium in the finals, but you give him a chance to redeem himself this season. even if he doesn't resign after the season you go for the ring NOW. its clear that brooks isn't shit so i think the players (kd, russell, harden, serge) should split the trophy brooks got because he didn't earn it.
season done
oh i'm on there.. all the sports writers and news people are on there as well all the ball playersfound it on twitter
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This is the perfect time for them to do it. He didn't make any adjustments after Russell went down. They went 2-6 after Westbrook went down. Westbrook is a vital part of that team and they weren't going to win a title without him obviously, but they had enough to still get to the WCF at least. However, only winning ONE game against Memphis is absurd. Memphis is a good team-not a great team and they also don't provide any massive mismatch problems. That was clearly just Brooks being in over his head because he didn't have the overwhelming talent advantage with Westbrook out.
man if the knicks lose tonight twitter is going to explode
and that's all it is. if you can't coach without overwhelming talent then you can't coach period. he's proven that he is a shitty coach that rode the wave because of talented players
players who got better on their own
without him. clearly
sure you can fire him
but replace him with whom
but replace him with whom
Mo Cheeks.
exactly what i've been saying for the past 2 seasons now.
mo has been doing the best he can do with westbrook without contradicting the doctrine brooks is teaching.
possible...................
I guess the assumption is that he would be a lot different systemwise than brooks. which I am not so sure of
I think he would be. He for sure would have the guards playing different than they are now. that alone would do wonders for their offense.
defensively the thunder are good because of effort not scheme. so if he could somehow work a good scheme in there.
kd will play for him
westbrook respects him and listens to him (see anytime russell is letting his emotions get the best of him who's the person who calms him down and gets him focused)
brooks is a dud. none of the assistants go over his head which is the right thing. but its killing the team.
Different is not always necessarily better. However, this team with a healthy Westbrook is going to get your 55-60 wins regardless of the coach. The problem is that he doesn't have the coaching ability to get them over the top. He has no philosophy. He doesn't even have one side of that ball that he focuses on like Coach Mike Brown. He is just in the right place the right time. They're not going to get any worse with a different coach but they certainly won't get any better.
At minimum, I would imagine that Mo Cheeks is going to make them a better defensive team. He preaches that and was a great defensive player himself. I also think considering how good he was a PG, he could help Westbrook without having Brooks there to over-ride him.
There is no guarantee obviously, the Brooks clearly isn't the solution.
The Heat weren't 4-1 better than OKC last year. Brooks is like D'Antoni... they just aren't going to get everything out of their teams. Coach Thib could take this team to the finals in his sleep.
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