*********Official Lakers vs. Celtics NBA Finals Thread********

[cranrab]

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Man you sound just like my old college coach from WSSU. In film sessions he use you kill on players that took bad shots because those bad shot always lead to either a 3 or a foul due to crossed up matches. I think that is basketball 101 though. Taking horrible shots especially in a half type game is a big no no.

Good Analysis!!

exactly.

i never claim to be sharing something that others who know basketball are not privy to.

unfortunately for basketball fans here, BGOL is populated with pretentious people who carry on about imagined or overblown basketball credentials. a large number of others are media regurgitators.

 

[TimRock]

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hilarious or sad.

do you always imagine (inject?) tobe into posts that never mentioned him?

hilarious and no. check for yourself.

 

[Spectrum]

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Man you sound just like my old college coach from WSSU. In film sessions he use you kill on players that took bad shots because those bad shot always lead to either a 3 or a foul due to crossed up matches. I think that is basketball 101 though. Taking horrible shots especially in a half type game is a big no no.

Good Analysis!!

That does get overlooked a lot. People look at the result but dont deduce why and how something occurred.

Almost all of the troubles for the Lakers occur when they go away of the triple post offense in long stretches.

 

[M.H.C.]

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I got it.

Cranrab=Chris Childs.

It all makes sense now.

 

[4 Dimensional]

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and why is Artest shooting so many three pointers...

that triangle O is why. he is basically what I call "the dead man" the man furtherest away from the ball on offense. Those threes will be there for him for the rest of the series. A prime example of why LA should have not let Ariza go. Don't yall miss him?!

 

[cranrab]

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rasheed hit a 3FGA and a jump shot in the last 2 minutes. care to share how those made buckets evolved? why would someone who watched the game have to "guess" what transpired?

timrock,

why did you dodge this?

your comment about perkins and davis offensive rebounds had nothing to do with those possessions.

 

[cranrab]

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That does get overlooked a lot. People look at the result but dont deduce why and how something occurred.

Almost all of the troubles for the Lakers occur when they go away of the triple post offense in long stretches.

more specifically, casual viewers (i can't even call them fans) can't fathom how offense necessarily is intertwined with defense. it's light years beyond their understanding and capability (at this point).

they see O and D as polar opposites.

 

[cranrab]

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Cranrab=Chris Childs.

nah, never played for the knicks or the raptors.

 

[4 Dimensional]

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That does get overlooked a lot. People look at the result but dont deduce why and how something occurred.

Almost all of the troubles for the Lakers occur when they go away of the triple post offense in long stretches.

that has been L.A.s' MO since 2008. They get out their offense way too much. Only very few teams know how to expose that and you must have a well discipled defense to execute.

 

[cranrab]

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and why is Artest shooting so many three pointers...

because 1 or more of the other 4 players on the team are not in their correct spots on the floor.

it would make things much simpler for ron artest if they were, because then it would leave no room for error and reduce his learning curve anxiety.

 

[4 Dimensional]

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more specifically, casual viewers (i can't even call them fans) can't fathom how offense necessarily is intertwined with defense. it's light years beyond their understanding and capability (at this point).

they see O and D as polar opposites.

Yeah, there is a true science behind basketball. Sort of like the Chaos Theory. What you do wrong initially on a offensive possession can be a direct impact on your very next defensive possession. I have a huge pet peeve against taking bad shots.

My example of a Championship team that NEVER really took bad shots was the '04 Pistons. Their methodical offense always had them in prime position to retreat back to defense without skipping a beat.

 

[Spectrum]

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that triangle O is why. he is basically what I call "the dead man" the man furtherest away from the ball on offense. Those threes will be there for him for the rest of the series. A prime example of why LA should have not let Ariza go. Don't yall miss him?!

I always thought that was not the upgrade that LA claimed it would be. I think Artest is a better on the ball defender against larger players like Pierce but overall Ariza was great on-ball and caused all types of problems off the ball...i mean how many games did he changed at the end with late steals during that playoff run

Plus he is a better spot shooter than Artest...

 

[Spectrum]

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My example of a Championship team that NEVER really took bad shots was the '04 Pistons. Their methodical offense always had them in prime position to retreat back to defense without skipping a beat.

Pistons fan here so I can agree with that. Coach Brown had those boys playing some really disciplined basketball on both sides of the court. That discipline allowed them to break a lot of conventions in terms of what it took to win a championship in the NBA because that team certaintly didnt fit the usual formula outside of having a HOF coach.

 

[MoneyInTheBank]

 

[4 Dimensional]

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I always thought that was not the upgrade that LA claimed it would be. I think Artest is a better on the ball defender against larger players like Pierce but overall Ariza was great on-ball and caused all types of problems off the ball...i mean how many games did he changed at the end with late steals during that playoff run

Plus he is a better spot shooter than Artest...

Exactly!

plus it take more than a year to establish a true role on LA. Ariza also ran the court with youth in his blood, which enabled LA to have a more effective transition defense and fast break offense. Remember last year in the play-offs how Ariza was feeding off the 3 point line from double caused by Gasol and Kobe? He knew where to be and found a way to help spread the court with his much improve outside shooting. He also made them quicker on the perimeter on defense. I personally would choose defensive length and quickness on my perimeter D over slower strength.

 

[MoneyInTheBank]

 

[Spectrum]

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Exactly!

plus it take more than a year to establish a true role on LA. Ariza also ran the court with youth in his blood, which enabled LA to have a more effective transition defense and fast break offense. Remember last year in the play-offs how Ariza was feeding off the 3 point line from double caused by Gasol and Kobe? He knew where to be and found a way to help spread the court with his much improve outside shooting. He also made them quicker on the perimeter on defense. I personally would choose defensive length and quickness on my perimeter D over slower strength.

cosign 100 percent this here..

 

[Damn Right]

Just like a Lakers fan. Celts deserve everything they earn. The refs made fucked up calls equally on both squads. What about the fouls where nobody even touched Kobe? Care to mention that?

@ y'all in here surprised that Kobe can actually get 5 fouls called on him. Once the Superstar treatment stops, these folks become human. Refs fucked up period. They played for the Lakers AND Celtics.

Y'all forgetting that the refs fucked RAY ALLEN in game 1. and he made y'all niggas pay for it.

of course kobe got the benefit of a ghost foul in game 1! i already said that both teams were being fuked by the refs. the difference in game 1 was that the game wasn't decided down the stretch by bullsheit calls and obvious biased calls. down the stretch, game 2 was decided by the refs, not the play of the players

 

[Damn Right]

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sad that fakers fans and tobe stans are usually liars that make shit up to fit their fantasy world.

post proof of your claim.

insecure lying bitches.

u ain't gonna be allowed to turn it around ya limp wristed faggot

plus, you a dik rider. you back ANY team that are playing against the lakers. what type of emotional, spurned ex-girlfriend gay sheit is that? plus, your bullsheit analysis was the same last year and dudes remember it. that's why you gettin clowned throughout this year's thread. and quite using words you don't understand....like 'stan'. the definition for the word ISN'T anybody that disagrees with you, u dumbfuk. and you STILL can't answer the question; if the lakers are 'fake', how do they make it to the finals 3 out of the last 4 years? and where is YOUR whack azzed team? and you saw that your bullsheit reasoning caused you to be run out the thread last year after the lakeshow won the rings. you don't know sheit about the game. fuk outta here

 

[Rawness]

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60% isn't killing?

I've addressed that already:

Off of dunks, lobs and put backs. He's killing them on the boards, yes, I agree, but he hasn't done anything on the post. He has no post moves.

We're talking about the post, where Bynum isn't scary at all. You need only look to his teammate to see an example of a big man who is scary in the post.

andrew bynum is smart enough and has enough faith in the O to not take stupid shots.

the only time he gets in trouble is when he is fatigued and mechanically executes his moves.

if you are a celtics fan, you should be worried. andrew bynum is getting opportunities because the 2nd and sometimes 3rd defender is late (or not there at all) in rotating.

but your point is acknowledged about andrew bynum not being much of an independent scoring threat, as i think all but 1 of his FGMs was assisted in G2.

Exactly, but I'm not worried, because that's a rectifiable problem. Real Celtic defense doesn't allow that to happen. Currently they aren't playing consistent Celtic defense and a lot of that has to do with the poor play of KG...a chain reaction as players try to help out ends up with a dunk for Bynum.

 

[M.H.C.]

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This thread should be locked in between games. 35 page thread and we haven't even reached game 3.

 

[Les W]

Off of dunks, lobs and put backs. He's killing them on the boards, yes, I agree, but he hasn't done anything on the post. He has no post moves.

You are 100% right guys like that need to be kept off of the blocks and they are dead weight...helpin Kobe Bryant has cost perkins that match up ... cause perk is strong enough to keep him off the blocks

posted BEFORE G2



look at how boston's D paced the fakers tonight:

Q1 22
Q2 26
Q3 24
Q4 22

total fakers points: 94



that aside, i wonder why i just went through 8 pages of comments from G2 and nobody mentioned the defensive change implemented by the celtics in G2?

nobody mentioned the contrast in D techniques employed by tony allen and ray allen.

how ray allen DARED a player to go left and he couldn't. how ray allen DARED a player to take baseline and he couldn't.

how the celtics frustrated the fakers by taking away the screen roll on the wings and forced the pass.

interesting.

Excellent analysis your posts are hilariously anti-Kobe but you obviously have a keen eye for the game

^

Pau's gonna have his way all series. He's the best offensive big man in the game today. The C's have no answer for him.

Bynum doesn't scare me at all. He has no offensive move. Just gotta keep him from getting dunks Dwight Howard style.

c/s

If KG pushes himself he can CONTAIN Pau and maybe get in his head and intimidate him...the lakers don't come off as a scrappy team at all...toss a couple of his shots into the bleachers and he'll change his whole offense

 

[cranrab]

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u ain't gonna be allowed to turn it around ya limp wristed faggot

yeah, you have to put those roll eyes with that.

you conflicted semi-closeted quimbys can't help but make up more bullshit to prop up your man.

i called you out, so where's the link? your moms is a cum dodger, and she raised you the same i see.

all this yap, but no link?

no proof, as usual.

you stans "remember" shit you make up.

that's called delusional, like your sad attempts at playing poker.

 

[cranrab]

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This thread should be locked in between games. 35 page thread and we haven't even reached game 3.

where were you when the thread was created? 4 pages before the 1st game had been played.

 

[TimRock]

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timrock,

why did you dodge this?

your comment about perkins and davis offensive rebounds had nothing to do with those possessions.

i didnt dodge it, i responded to this. both of rasheeds shots came after missed free throws (the 3 assisted by pierce). i meant defensive rebounds. minor mistake. why was he uncovered after missed free throws?

 

[cranrab]

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i didnt dodge it, i responded to this. both of rasheeds shots came after missed free throws. i meant defensive rebounds. minor mistake. why was he uncovered after missed free throws?

so your response is that rasheed wallace's shots were created by kendrick perkins' and glen davis' defensive rebounds?

no, that's not a dodge.

right.

but i don't mind sharing the facts with others that also didn't watch the game. lamar odom was making the correct baskteball play on both FGMs.

on the 1st, the celtics ran screen roll with pau gasol and ron artest as the target defenders. when paul pierce got the matchup with pau gasol, he used his dribble to penetrate the lane. lamar odom properly rotated over to help and force paul pierce to pick up his dribble. unfortunately, another faker didn't do his job and rotate over to cover lamar odom's back.

on the 2nd, the celtics ran transition screen roll with jordan farmar and ron artest as the target defenders. when rajon rondo got the matchup with ron artest, he used his dribble to penetrate the lane. lamar odom properly rotated over to help and force rajon rondo to pick up his dribble. unfortunately, another faker didn't do his job and rotate over to cover lamar odom's back.

you missed a lot i see. trying to piece the game together reading the play-by-play really isn't working for you.

 

[Damn Right]

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yeah, you have to put those roll eyes with that.

you conflicted semi-closeted quimbys can't help but make up more bullshit to prop up your man.

i called you out, so where's the link? your moms is a cum dodger, and she raised you the same i see.

all this yap, but no link?

no proof, as usual.

you stans "remember" shit you make up.

that's called delusional, like your sad attempts at playing poker.

made quite a bit of extra cheese last year thanks to poker. but glad to know that you're so much on my jock that you memorize everything i post on bgol. and anybody who bothers to search for LAST YEAR'S finals threads will indeed see you making a fool out of yourself....just like your faggot azz is doing again this year. everybody up here knows that your jealous female tendencies are present.....which is the reason you smack your lips and flick your wrists whenever kobe's name is mentioned

 

[TimRock]

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so your response is that rasheed wallace's shots were created by kendrick perkins' and glen davis' defensive rebounds?

no, that's not a dodge.

right.

but i don't mind sharing the facts with others that also didn't watch the game. lamar odom was making the correct baskteball play on both FGMs.

on the 1st, the celtics ran screen roll with pau gasol and ron artest as the target defenders. when paul pierce got the matchup with pau gasol, he used his dribble to penetrate the lane. lamar odom properly rotated over to help and force paul pierce to pick up his dribble. unfortunately, another faker didn't do his job and rotate over to cover lamar odom's back.

on the 2nd, the celtics ran transition screen roll with jordan farmar and ron artest as the target defenders. when rajon rondo got the matchup with ron artest, he used his dribble to penetrate the lane. lamar odom properly rotated over to help and force rajon rondo to pick up his dribble. unfortunately, another faker didn't do his job and rotate over to cover lamar odom's back.

you missed a lot i see. trying to piece the game together reading the play-by-play really isn't working for you.

why would i have to do that, when i watched the game myself. you are not the only with a TV. So what you dvr the games and go back to it to watch kobe.

but like i said, every miscue on the court happens because of kobe. whats the point of replying to me? I know what your answer will be. Just enjoy your self.

 

[cranrab]

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made quite a bit of extra cheese last year thanks to poker. but glad to know that you're so much on my jock that you memorize everything i post on bgol. and anybody who bothers to search for LAST YEAR'S finals threads will indeed see you making a fool out of yourself

so post the link, then.

you still mad over last year's threads i see. that's a shame you still all emotional over some internet words from more than a year ago.



you say you remember them. you say others remember them. so post the link, bitch.

we got fake med students, fake law students, and damn right that "remembers" fake shit.

right.

 

[cranrab]

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So what you dvr the games and go back to it to watch kobe.

but like i said, every miscue on the court happens because of kobe. whats the point of replying to me? I know what your answer will be. Just enjoy your self.

don't have a DVR, don't want a DVR. i just watch the games and see it unfold.

and thanks, i always usually enjoy myself when watching good basketball. it's sad that so many others are oblivious to the genesis of each new play.

 

[TimRock]

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don't have a DVR, don't want a DVR. i just watch the games and see it unfold.

and thanks, i always usually enjoy myself when watching good basketball. it's sad that so many others are oblivious to the genesis of each new play.

yep, you're right.

 

[Damn Right]

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so post the link, then.

you still mad over last year's threads i see. that's a shame you still all emotional over some internet words from more than a year ago.



you say you remember them. you say others remember them. so post the link, bitch.

we got fake med students, fake law students, and damn right that "remembers" fake shit.

right.

mad? naw. i just call bullsheit on punk azzed dl faggots like u. fuk i gotta search for a link for YOU? if i didn't read your dumb azzed posts from last year's thread, i wouldn't have brought it up. ANYBODY who is curious to cross-reference your bullsheit is free to do so. all through the playoffs, there you were dik ridin all teams playing against the lakers, explaining why they wouldn't make it. and dude's was straight LAUGHIN at your sick azz after they won, hollarin out 'where's cranrab????' after the lakers won. your azz was probably in depression recovery and moreover, your complete jealous obsession with kobe bryant is telling. the majority of your posts involve kobe. to coin a phrase from 'boondocks'....

"nickah, u gay"

 

[cranrab]

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if i didn't read your dumb azzed posts from last year's thread, i wouldn't have brought it up. ANYBODY who is curious to cross-reference your bullsheit is free to do so. all through the playoffs, there you were dik ridin all teams playing against the lakers, explaining why they wouldn't make it. and dude's was straight LAUGHIN at your sick azz after they won, hollarin out 'where's cranrab????' after the lakers won.

to coin a phrase from 'boondocks'....

"nickah, u gay"

i'm sure you're very familiar with that part of the cartoon.

you just proved my point. claimed you read it, when no such thing ever occurred.

can't post a link because it was never a post like that.

sad bitch-made trick, just like your boyfriend.

cake boy stans on BGOL.

 

[cranrab]

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the majority of your posts involve kobe.

isn't funny that you follow all my posts? that you've obviously searched for them?



that's not a STAN.

no, not at all.

funny how whenever i see you in a thread with a basketball topic, all you're doing is slurping tobe with NO contribution to the basketball discussion.

 

[Damn Right]

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isn't funny that you follow all my posts? that you've obviously searched for them?



that's not a STAN.

no, not at all.

funny how whenever i see you in a thread with a basketball topic, all you're doing is slurping tobe with NO contribution to the basketball discussion.

what's wild is that i didn't even do ONE search of any of your threads. there's plenty of pages in this one thread to lace your azz with your own words. you're not discussing basketball. you're discussing kobe and your obsession with his and the lakers downfall. pretty sick sheit to be so obsessed with another man. plenty of other dudes in this sole thread have commented on your man (manhammer?) obsession with kobe. some of 'um laugh it off. some don't.

i've discussed b-ball with other dudes in this thread. if your lazy azz bothered to go back into the thread and read as opposed to obsessing about another man, then you'd already know that. and don't think that 'slurping tobe' line got past me either. strange how even when you're tryin to be funny, your mind lets slip the image of kobe gettin a bj from another guy.

just come out with it. you prolly wish that 'other guy' was you and it drives you 'batty', huh batty boi? that's why you're so mad at kobe, isn't it? like those conservative gop members always talking about gay dudes, vilifying um and sheit then THEY end up caught with chi-chi mon