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'Justified' postmortem: EP Graham Yost on the fun of 'Decoy,' more Tarantino homages, and the character he's sorry won't return
SPOILER ALERT! If you haven’t watched this week’s episode of Justified, “Decoy” written by showrunner Graham Yost and Chris Provenzano and directed by Michael Watkins, stop reading now. We were treated to a great Western as Raylan (Timothy Olyphant) and the Marshals tried to get Drew Thompson (Jim Beaver) out of Harlan alive, and Boyd (Walton Goggins) did his best to stop them for Nicky Augustine (Mike O’Malley). As he’ll do throughout the season, Yost takes us inside the writers’ room to break down the episode and tease what’s to come (only two episodes left!).
ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: You know I loved seasons 2 and 3, but I think this is my favorite episode since the season 1 finale.
GRAHAM YOST: It was a good episode. When Provenzano and I saw it, we were pretty damn proud of ourselves. Are we not geniuses? (Laughs) No. There were a lot of contributions from everyone, including Tim — it was his idea to have Constable Bob [Patton Oswalt] beaten up. And he figured the way to get out of the confrontation at the high school, which was something that we were headed toward, but made it the showdown that doesn’t happen. Chris worked very hard on all the scenes with Raylan, Rachel, and Shelby, and also all the stuff at Johnny’s bar, and I focused a lot on the convoy stuff. It was a nice team effort, and one of the big factors was Michael Watkins, the director, who has done a number of documentaries in Afghanistan, so he loves doing anything that has a little bit of tense, almost military action type stuff in it. And then the actors: One of my favorite scenes in the whole series is Ava, Nicky, and Johnny in the bar. Mike O’Malley just brought it, as did Joelle [Carter] and David [Meunier]. It’s some of David’s best work in the series, and he had like three lines. (Laughs) That’s enough of my glowing self-congratulation.
This is the first episode you’ve had your name on as a writer since the season 4 premiere. Why this one?
If you look back at season 3, I cowrote the opener with [EP] Fred Golan, and then had a little hand in the story of the finale. But I also wrote the one where Gary is killed and the bullet is traced back to Raylan. And then in season 2, I wrote the one where Raylan and Winona have to try to get the money back into the courthouse and into the evidence locker. So working on those kind of very structured tension pieces is something I really enjoy. It’s the kind of stuff I did when I was working in features — whether it was a bus [in Speed], or nuclear weapons [in Broken Arrow], or a flood [in Hard Rain] or whatever — which was to try to come up with these sequences that build. And then I needed someone to do it with me, and I knew Chris would balance it with really great humor and character insight, so it was a good fit. We hadn’t written a script together before, so that was fun.
Let’s start at the beginning with Nicky’s conversation with Boyd about his clothing, his teeth, and his use of 40 words when four will do.
It’s being a little self-referential without going overboard on it. I know Walton has said that he kinda got an insight in to Boyd when he buttoned up the top button. Everyone who’s watched the show has remarked on his teeth: He has such amazing teeth for backwoods. So I wanted to answer that question, and also just the way Boyd talks. Walton always has a suggestion or two when we’ve got a scene: “You know, what if I said this? What if I said that?” So he has a great insight into Boyd and enjoys the colorful language and just nails it. So I thought it would be fun that this outsider comes in and just goes right at everyone’s pride and vulnerability. He does it again with Ava. He’s shining this harsh light on the reality of their world.
Boyd losing a tooth was a nice touch.
I went back and forth on it. It was scripted, it was shot, and I wasn’t sure. It steps right up to the line of believability, and it’s a film cliché — someone gets hit and the tooth pops out. But we thought that it also set the tone for the whole episode in a way, which is we’re going right to the edge on this one: Crazy, crazy stuff is gonna happen.
Why have Nicky use a Biblical reference with Boyd?
I did the first draft of that scene, and a lot of that stayed in tact. There were a couple of things going on, one is that it’s always good to talk about God with Boyd because of his journey. And we establish him as an atheist, essentially, at the beginning of the season. It was also setting up that Nicky is dealing with a boss who is all-powerful and unpredictable. At the time of the writing, we didn’t know exactly how the season was gonna end. Things develop in the next two episodes that took us away from that a little bit.
We find out from Nicky in that scene that Wynn has run. Will we see him again this season?
Keep your eyes open.
The whole episode revolves around Boyd’s knowledge of Raylan from when they dug coal together, which harkens back to the pilot.
It’s a flip on what Raylan brings to the series. In the pilot episode, the reason he’s brought to Kentucky is because of his knowledge of the culture and the terrain and the people. In this episode, instead of Raylan trying to catch a bad guy, it’s bad guys trying to catch a good guy. Boyd’s knowledge of Raylan allows him to solve the puzzle, and it also keeps him alive.
Moving on to the fun at Arlo’s house, what’s the story behind the “Battle of Bloody Porch” Wild Bunch reference?
That is actually a line from my brother. My brother and I are huge fans of The Wild Bunch. Our dad, who passed a year and a half ago, took us to see it when my brother was 14 and I was 9. We saw it in Florida the summer it opened. I wouldn’t always recommend people showing The Wild Bunch to their 9-year-old, but I was well-prepared given the family I grew up in. That’s one of our favorite movies of all time, and the big climactic battle scene was nicknamed on the set “The Battle of Bloody Porch.”
How did you come up with how Arlo and Drew met in Saigon?
At a certain point, when we figured out that Shelby was Drew Thompson, we decided in the room that it’s part of the whole reason why this came to Harlan: Drew knew someone there, and that’s why he sought out Arlo. Then Arlo brought in Bo, and they took care of him, and in turn got a crapload of cocaine. So how would Shelby know Arlo? We just backed it up: Well, maybe they met each other in Vietnam. I said, “What if they met outside a whorehouse?” That just sort of popped into my head. We wanted to establish Raylan as a reader when he was a kid. We thought that was fun and a surprise to the audience and Rachel. You find out Arlo was, too, so it’s one of those “Oh, we read different books but we were both readers, I never knew that.”
Why didn’t Arlo burn the bag as Drew requested?
Because that was always his “Get out of jail free” card. Which is why you can never count on Arlo. You could only count on Arlo to always be Arlo.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/03/19/justified-decoy-postmortem-graham-yost/
Peace,
I'm surprised. I hazard to guess it's the in house marketing of the FX brand that IMHO doesn't focus on brand visibility for a new audience, but the retention of it's already solid base by focusing on writing/producing an excellent show.
If you're into FX TV, you'll see Justified commercials, if not, you might miss the show.
Also, bitches hate this show. My ex would literally fall asleep. Too much having to follow along for a Tuesday night before, " Hump day ".
Meaning no advertising value toward the female gender. So it doesn't get as much press.
Bottom line it's a gritty well written modern day western for cats who used to watch westerns with their pops n shit.
It's popular, yes, high numbers, but it can easily be missed.
Unfortunately, she's not a white man's side piece so, she don't get the press . . .
Peace,
I'm surprised. I hazard to guess it's the in house marketing of the FX brand that IMHO doesn't focus on brand visibility for a new audience, but the retention of it's already solid base by focusing on writing/producing an excellent show.
If you're into FX TV, you'll see Justified commercials, if not, you might miss the show.
Also, bitches hate this show. My ex would literally fall asleep. Too much having to follow along for a Tuesday night before, " Hump day ".
Meaning no advertising value toward the female gender. So it doesn't get as much press.
Bottom line it's a gritty well written modern day western for cats who used to watch westerns with their pops n shit.
It's popular, yes, high numbers, but it can easily be missed.
Unfortunately, she's not a white man's side piece so, she don't get the press . . .
^excellent analysis...
I like how the show is filled with Raylan's former co-stars from my SECOND favorite HBO series...Deadwood.
^
not her but another sister
I am so broad of the amount of Black women writing now (you know a sister created Scandel)...but they aint getting ENOUGH recognition at all...
Yeah, Shonda Rimes is shutting shit down right now. And there seems to be a lot of black talent behind the scenes on a lot of shows that's going unnoticed.
Good info on Nichelle Tramble. She's been putting in work.
I mentioned this earlier in the thread...They already released a book based on Raylan and a few of the cases were already used this season!
We got to start a BGOL book club...
I don't know a whole lot about "Fire In The Hole", the book the show is based on, but I'm curious about a motif that keeps popping up in the show and if it came from the novel or the producers.
At the end of the first two seasons, the the last episoded ended with a few cords from this Brad Paisely song, "You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive". And at the end of the the episode before last night's there was the final shot with Raylan saying, "now all we have to do is make it out of Harlan alive."
The themes in the song and the theme's in the show, especially Raylan's journey seem to mirror one another. I'm wondering how much of it was inspired by the song.
... and good drops on these, especially the youtube clips.
This is one of favorites. She even looks good pointing a gun...
Got damn the show's good but it ain't THAT good yall gotta be posting spoilers and shit 
I don't even care about all that shit. I just like the hillbilly gangster shit. Gimme more Limehouse vs Crowder vs Givens shit
and I still remember Malik Yoba getting his ass kicked in season 1
I don't even care about all that shit. I just like the hillbilly gangster shit. Gimme more Limehouse vs Crowder vs Givens shit
and I still remember Malik Yoba getting his ass kicked in season 1
BTW, I think Drew is gonna get her got on the train.
Maybe they'll all end back at Limehouse's for a bigger score.
Mykelti Williamson has been doing a great job with his portrayal of Limehouse - glad he did the right thing
That gunfight was in the making between Tim and Colt was going to happen when they bumped into each other at the VA hospital - mutual respect but it had to happen (pretty much the way it is with raylen and everybody)
That gunfight was in the making between Tim and Colt was going to happen when they bumped into each other at the VA hospital - mutual respect but it had to happen (pretty much the way it is with raylen and everybody)
THEY BETTER NOT show that shit...I am worried cause she is on that other FOX show now full time.
You saw the preview, Dude say he will kill his whole family. Raylan normally doesn't look shook but he did in the previews.
THAT'S why I'm worried Jay...
After Arlo, colt and everything else looks like they gonna go extra dark.
This is one show when I can NEVER predict who will die and when.
Because of the tone shifts one minute your laughing then its like OH SHIT!
You tend to listen so carefully to exactly WHAT the characters say cause the language is well placed and you then sometimes miss the totality of what they are saying.
Its like I KNEW what Limehouse would do with Ellen May but when he DID it, it was a totally honest decision for THAT character but if he had went LEFT that would have been EQUALLY as honest for that character.
One of the BEST shows people aint watching.
Yeah it's like the writers are trying to keep the current viewers & attract new ones. This show is so great & I don't understand why more people aren't watching.
You ask someone about the wire or breaking bad & they are like that's show is great! Ask them about Justified & they say "im not into cowboys shows."
I hear the same thing I cant believe that hurt the show so much...
Also the first episode Boyd was repping white supremacy and supposedly turned off viewers.
that's bull cause SOA been on that racist shit until recently when they been trying to clean it up with the Juice storyline.
Deadwood is one of the BEST series EVER on HBO right up there with The Wire, sopranos and Oz but the "cowboy" thing hurt them too.
shit I LOVE cowboy flicks growing up
its funny because every one on the show always asks him about the hat.
Damn and Boyd was so close to Winning bravo to raylan for doing what he had to do. I also liked how boyd let raylan know if he needed his he"p he didnt have to threaten him all he had to do was ask
That episode was just...
Hope they really thought out the Arlo decision cause I dont know if I agree with it.
The thing about Raylan vs. vic Mackey Tony Soprano or even Jax Teller
He IS a good man...he ALWAYS tries to things the right way but the world FORCES his hand.
So he literallytries to find JUSTICE any way he can.
He aint even the smartest cause dont forget Drew was with him the whole time, sleeping with that grifter chick...he makes mistakes. That is what makes him so damn cool
I really thought he was just gonna tell Boyd Detroit Mob went after the baby...but he was so angry.
I actually thought he would be more jealous about Arlo and Boyd...and call him out telling Boyd how he went after his Dad when he was done with him, and Ava when he was done with her, taking Raylan's crumbs.
Liked how the preacher's sister got revenge...Boyd was jealous cause that boy was a TRUE BELIEVER and Boyd never was.
But next seaso looks like it is gonna be ill.
Its was sad that Raylan got what Winonna always wanted (like how Boyd calls her WHY-nonna
) time off, a promotion and he is spending 30 days in his Daddy's house...alone.Cant wait for next season...
On to Mad Men and Game of Thrones and The Americans
yeah he should have spent that time with winonnaThat episode was just...
Hope they really thought out the Arlo decision cause I dont know if I agree with it.
The thing about Raylan vs. vic Mackey Tony Soprano or even Jax Teller
He IS a good man...he ALWAYS tries to things the right way but the world FORCES his hand.
So he literallytries to find JUSTICE any way he can.
He aint even the smartest cause dont forget Drew was with him the whole time, sleeping with that grifter chick...he makes mistakes. That is what makes him so damn cool
I really thought he was just gonna tell Boyd Detroit Mob went after the baby...but he was so angry.
I actually thought he would be more jealous about Arlo and Boyd...and call him out telling Boyd how he went after his Dad when he was done with him, and Ava when he was done with her, taking Raylan's crumbs.
Liked how the preacher's sister got revenge...Boyd was jealous cause that boy was a TRUE BELIEVER and Boyd never was.
But next seaso looks like it is gonna be ill.
Its was sad that Raylan got what Winonna always wanted (like how Boyd calls her WHY-nonna
Cant wait for next season...
On to Mad Men and Game of Thrones and The Americans
But I think Raylan just planned on being a "baby daddy". Not trying to get her back or nothing.
gotta disagree cuz...
he was bragging to her about a potential promotion, more money less hours and being more involved.
And when he said he loved her that wasnt just to keep her calm...
this whole season was about sins of the father...and if Raylan was more like Arlo then he would ever care to admit.
But why would he fix the old house up then? Why wouldnt he just clean up Winonna's. I thought he was saying all that free time stuff just to say he is going to be around more and safe from harm. They tried to work three times now and failed. I assumed they both given up on a relationship.
That's what I mean...
those writers (and directors) are incredible.
The audience OF COURSE assumed initially that he was fixing the baby's room but NO!
It was patching up his father's mistakes throughout this season we say that Raylan may not have known Arlo as well as he thought.
And sitting there contemplating his life and the deaths of his parents and his future...
Questioning whether he would in actually be a good father?
What DOES he tell HIMSELF before his head hits pillow at night to convince himself he is a good man?
Is he JUST Arlo's son no matter how much good he does...he has WAY more in common with Boyd then any of his partners.
And he LET her leave...she didn't have to anymore.
This is setting up the next season well...but damn I STILL dont like the Arlo decision.
That is his house now and it is where he grew up in
Justified Adds Three New Cast Members
Justified showrunner Graham Yost is making good on his plan to integrate more of Elmore Leonard's characters into the show's forthcoming seasons following the creator’s passing earlier this year. FX’s outlaw drama has added three new cast members to its fifth season, all part of the fictional Crowe family, which Yost told Deadline “is a big part of [Leonard’s] world.”
TV Line reported that Michael Rapaport will play ex-convict and gator farm owner Dale Crowe, Jr., a “smart, ruthless and charismatic patriarch of a Florida crime family who will face off against Raylan Givens (Timothy Olyphant) in the upcoming season.”
Playing Crowe’s smart, sexy paralegal sister Wendy is Alicia Witt, a character who “dickers with Raylan to cut a nice deal for Dale, in exchange for essentially nothing tangible, and enjoys outmaneuvering the Kentucky lawman,” according to Deadline.
Then there’s Edi Gathegi (last seen on ABC’s Family Tools), who’ll play Jean Baptiste, a Haitian criminal in in charge of the Crowe family gator farm and former member of the Haitian secret police who “has a coldly merciless attitude when it comes to disposing of both gators and humans.” Hold tight for all the Dixie drama when season five airs in early 2014.
Justified showrunner Graham Yost is making good on his plan to integrate more of Elmore Leonard's characters into the show's forthcoming seasons following the creator’s passing earlier this year. FX’s outlaw drama has added three new cast members to its fifth season, all part of the fictional Crowe family, which Yost told Deadline “is a big part of [Leonard’s] world.”
TV Line reported that Michael Rapaport will play ex-convict and gator farm owner Dale Crowe, Jr., a “smart, ruthless and charismatic patriarch of a Florida crime family who will face off against Raylan Givens (Timothy Olyphant) in the upcoming season.”
Playing Crowe’s smart, sexy paralegal sister Wendy is Alicia Witt, a character who “dickers with Raylan to cut a nice deal for Dale, in exchange for essentially nothing tangible, and enjoys outmaneuvering the Kentucky lawman,” according to Deadline.
Then there’s Edi Gathegi (last seen on ABC’s Family Tools), who’ll play Jean Baptiste, a Haitian criminal in in charge of the Crowe family gator farm and former member of the Haitian secret police who “has a coldly merciless attitude when it comes to disposing of both gators and humans.” Hold tight for all the Dixie drama when season five airs in early 2014.
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