Yeah they on that shit for saying that...
Lillard is behind steph for best pg under 25
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Yeah they on that shit for saying that...
Lillard is behind steph for best pg under 25
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shit! So was his defense...
Nobody gets a pass for giving up a damn double nickle, fuck that!!
hey man
they dont want to give the kid his props
when the cavs lost to portland earlier in the season they sure were yapping tho
if opposing guards had put up that stretch of numbers against Rose or Westbrook yall would be trying to put them on All Defensive teams
So they put 2 players on lillard not named kyrie and kyrie get props for playing D?
See that when u know your the man in the nba they putting 2 ninjas on lillard they knew what time it was lol
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They're both clearly better than portland.
hey man
they dont want to give the kid his props
when the cavs lost to portland earlier in the season they sure were yapping tho
if opposing guards had put up that stretch of numbers against Rose or Westbrook yall would be trying to put them on All Defensive teams
So you're going to say Kyrie is as good a defender as anybody?
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He is. Kyrie can shoot the 3 pointer better and he can razzle dazzle better.
other than that?
Lowry is 28. I had to double check before putting that list out.
My list is under 25 PG's
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they lied on his birth certificate.
Fuck out of here with that, the Wiz are basically the Suns east and the Mav just lost to Houston with out Howard.. I think the Mavs on paper, but until then they have yet to get it together...
Westbrook is a bigger defensive gambler for sure...some of which pays off so I guess I give him the edge there...
But you are acting like these numbers these guards are putting up is strictly because they added a big guy back there....
if adding tall guys back there was all it took to make a defense better then scoring in the nba would be a chore
I mean I could bring more statistical data but it still wouldnt sway some of you....
Lillard is a defensive fucking mess but I dont hear nobody harping on him...and he has to hobble back to portland with kyries foot firmly lodged in his ass tonight on a back to back
Stop bringing up bums who never seen a game in May to the MVP
YALL niggas is bonkers
YALL niggas is bonkers
This is true...
But if Rose can get his shine so can Kyrie...
Rose ain't the same player
He gotta get confidence back in his knee... He developed his 3 ball while out. If he start attacking the basket with that same fearlessness he had during his MVP season that mufucca will be UNSTOPPABLE
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the single biggest change has been a rim protector period.
don't play westbrook saying "gambler" like he isn't a stopper straight up man to man don't do it for the sake of Kyrie
the person that deters shot is the key to it all period. and again you conceded they had 2 OTHER dude's on lillard for most of the work in stopping him.
the rim protector is the key.
and nobody mentioned lillard as a good defender. there aren't many good 2 way players in the nba.
shit steph's curry defense is atrocious
yup. they've been begging him to be aggressive. he still can't finish like he used to. jury still out on him imo. no guarantee he'll be back or be complete trash either.
what 3 ball
Teams want Rose to shoot threes
I would be comfortable letting Derek Rose shoot every open three he got
And no Westbrook is not a defensive stopper. GTFOH, And I say that as one of the biggest Westbrook fans on this forum.
The difference in the Cavs defense as of late is 1)Effort 2)The change in the way they have decided to try to defend pick and rolls as outline by Blatt and Lue and 3)Mozgov
Nobody had Mozgov outlined an elite rim protector before he got on the Cavs...
If Lillard had come in here and gone off yall would be quick with the slander....let him remove the shrapnel he got from the 50 cal he got tonite..period
When he's dialed in there's nothing you can do to get by him. Now he's not always dialed in and that's the problem
Elite rim protector no. but he doesn't need to be an elite rim protector just a big body that can navigate the boards and deter shots, you can't teach 7' tall.
Effort is a big difference but that also comes from Shump and JR being out there instead of waiters who was only trying to get his shot, like he's doing in OKC right now.
Rose is better at the 3 but not good at it. He needs to attack the rim. He can, he just hesitant most nights.
If lillard had gone off it would just be what lillard does. dude is a beast he's done it plenty of nights.
But he had 3 people on him tonight and had a bad night he was the focal point of the defense I wouldn't blame anybody, including Kyrie if they garnered that much attention. You put 3 bodies on somebody you supposed to stop them period.
Elite rim protector no. but he doesn't need to be an elite rim protector just a big body that can navigate the boards and deter shots, you can't teach 7' tall.
Effort is a big difference but that also comes from Shump and JR being out there instead of waiters who was only trying to get his shot, like he's doing in OKC right now.
Rose is better at the 3 but not good at it. He needs to attack the rim. He can, he just hesitant most nights.
If lillard had gone off it would just be what lillard does. dude is a beast he's done it plenty of nights.
But he had 3 people on him tonight and had a bad night he was the focal point of the defense I wouldn't blame anybody, including Kyrie if they garnered that much attention. You put 3 bodies on somebody you supposed to stop them period.
Say something about Rose and you know what's gonna happen...Rose who?
what 3 ball
Teams want Rose to shoot threes
I would be comfortable letting Derek Rose shoot every open three he got
And no Westbrook is not a defensive stopper. GTFOH, And I say that as one of the biggest Westbrook fans on this forum.
The difference in the Cavs defense as of late is 1)Effort 2)The change in the way they have decided to try to defend pick and rolls as outline by Blatt and Lue and 3)Mozgov
Nobody had Mozgov outlined an elite rim protector before he got on the Cavs...
If Lillard had come in here and gone off yall would be quick with the slander....let him remove the shrapnel he got from the 50 cal he got tonite..period
Derrick Rose developed that 3 which currently is pretty weak, because he was scared of coming inside where the contact is. It is just another pussy move. He still doesn't have his confidence back and worse he is scared. that mother fucker when he come inside be scared like Jack Spade on I'm gonna git U sucka when they started shooting
- 5th youngest player (22 years, 311 days) in the last 50 seasons to score 55+points
- 93pts over the last 2 days are the most over a 2 day span since Kobe scored 110 combined on 3/22/07 (60pts) & 03/23/07 (50)
- scoring 55.6% of @cavs pts is 6th highest % **in game in which his team scored <100pts** in the shot clock era
- 11 threes, tied for the 2nd most in an @NBA game all-time (Kobe, D.Marshall tied for 1st w/ 12)(55pts, 11/19 from 3)
- the double-nickel - a career-high 55 points (tied 2nd-most in @cavs history) & a Cavs franchise-record 11 threes made
Nice piece on JR
J.R. Smith says he’s playing better in Cleveland because there’s less partying
J.R. Smith is putting up numbers with the Cavaliers — he’s averaging 14.2 points a game, taking the majority of his shots from beyond the arc and hitting 39.7 percent of them in his last 10 games. Smith is still far from efficient (shooting 39.9 percent with the Cavaliers) but he’s fitting in and playing a little better than he did in New York.
Why? Well, playing with LeBron James helps (he’s a superstar who is a more willing passer than the last superstar Smith played with). Plus guys like Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love draw defenders to give him open looks from three, plus there is more depth in Cleveland.
Or, maybe it’s that he parties less because this is Cleveland and not Manhattan.
That’s basically what he told David Aldridge of NBA.com
“I think this is the best situation for me, ’cause there’s nothing but basketball. There’s nothing you expect but basketball. There’s nothing, there’s no going out, there’s no late nights. There’s video games, basketball and basketball. So it’s a great thing, ’cause I go back to where I came from. When I grew up, I never, I wasn’t allowed to go out. I missed my prom because I went to an AAU tournament, and all that stuff. For me, it was basketball, basketball, basketball. And then when I got in the situation where I was at an early age, it was more, alright, let me see what this life is about, as opposed to just keep going. So now, I get the chance to get back to my roots….
I always made myself better by staying in the gym. When you replace that with stuff off the court, then you’re taking away from what made you who you are, or what got you to a certain point. It was kind of pulling me down in a sense, of not getting enough rest, not doing things you’re supposed to be doing, things you’re used to doing. So when you start missing those shots you’re supposed to make, especially wide-open shots, it was like, alright, what’s going on, what’s going on? Instead of looking at what it is, you’re reverting to that even more, instead of going back to the basics. So I think that’s the greatest part about being here.”
NBA players are fully capable of getting in trouble in any market, and is Smith wants it there is trouble to be found in Cleveland. That said, Smith was a notoriously bad player on those Sunday afternoon games the Knicks often host at Madison Square Garden, and one may have to work a little harder to find the late night spots and trouble in Cleveland.
Or, maybe the jolt of reality going from the lowly Knicks to a Cavaliers team that is starting to resemble what was envisioned for it before the season — the team is on a seven-game winning streak and playing improved defense — could have him focusing on the game. That and the leadership of LeBron James, an old friend, could keep Smith in line.
We’ll let this one play out before saying any new leafs have been turned over, or any other such cliché. At this point in his career Smith is what Smith is, an unrepentant gunner, just one that the Cavs may be able to use to their advantage.
J.R. Smith says he’s playing better in Cleveland because there’s less partying
J.R. Smith is putting up numbers with the Cavaliers — he’s averaging 14.2 points a game, taking the majority of his shots from beyond the arc and hitting 39.7 percent of them in his last 10 games. Smith is still far from efficient (shooting 39.9 percent with the Cavaliers) but he’s fitting in and playing a little better than he did in New York.
Why? Well, playing with LeBron James helps (he’s a superstar who is a more willing passer than the last superstar Smith played with). Plus guys like Kyrie Irving and Kevin Love draw defenders to give him open looks from three, plus there is more depth in Cleveland.
Or, maybe it’s that he parties less because this is Cleveland and not Manhattan.
That’s basically what he told David Aldridge of NBA.com
“I think this is the best situation for me, ’cause there’s nothing but basketball. There’s nothing you expect but basketball. There’s nothing, there’s no going out, there’s no late nights. There’s video games, basketball and basketball. So it’s a great thing, ’cause I go back to where I came from. When I grew up, I never, I wasn’t allowed to go out. I missed my prom because I went to an AAU tournament, and all that stuff. For me, it was basketball, basketball, basketball. And then when I got in the situation where I was at an early age, it was more, alright, let me see what this life is about, as opposed to just keep going. So now, I get the chance to get back to my roots….
I always made myself better by staying in the gym. When you replace that with stuff off the court, then you’re taking away from what made you who you are, or what got you to a certain point. It was kind of pulling me down in a sense, of not getting enough rest, not doing things you’re supposed to be doing, things you’re used to doing. So when you start missing those shots you’re supposed to make, especially wide-open shots, it was like, alright, what’s going on, what’s going on? Instead of looking at what it is, you’re reverting to that even more, instead of going back to the basics. So I think that’s the greatest part about being here.”
NBA players are fully capable of getting in trouble in any market, and is Smith wants it there is trouble to be found in Cleveland. That said, Smith was a notoriously bad player on those Sunday afternoon games the Knicks often host at Madison Square Garden, and one may have to work a little harder to find the late night spots and trouble in Cleveland.
Or, maybe the jolt of reality going from the lowly Knicks to a Cavaliers team that is starting to resemble what was envisioned for it before the season — the team is on a seven-game winning streak and playing improved defense — could have him focusing on the game. That and the leadership of LeBron James, an old friend, could keep Smith in line.
We’ll let this one play out before saying any new leafs have been turned over, or any other such cliché. At this point in his career Smith is what Smith is, an unrepentant gunner, just one that the Cavs may be able to use to their advantage.
impressive win for cavs for sure...
what 3 ball
Teams want Rose to shoot threes
I would be comfortable letting Derek Rose shoot every open three he got
And no Westbrook is not a defensive stopper. GTFOH, And I say that as one of the biggest Westbrook fans on this forum.
The difference in the Cavs defense as of late is 1)Effort 2)The change in the way they have decided to try to defend pick and rolls as outline by Blatt and Lue and 3)Mozgov
Nobody had Mozgov outlined an elite rim protector before he got on the Cavs...
If Lillard had come in here and gone off yall would be quick with the slander....let him remove the shrapnel he got from the 50 cal he got tonite..period
Rose getting treated like Rondo to shoot
And let's be clear had Kyrie missed that go ahead 3pt shoot and Portland got the ball back and Lillard hit the game winning shot that entire 55 pt performance would have been null and voided
Again cavs had Jr and Shump defending Lillard not Kyrie now why is that? If kyrie had to play both ends he wouldn't have gone off for 55.. He ain't built that way on both ends of the floor
He is. Kyrie can shoot the 3 pointer better and he can razzle dazzle better.
other than that?
So is Westbrook better than Kyrie or more athletic? There is a difference. Fundamental, skill wise, in what areas is Westbrook so much better that
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Rose getting treated like Rondo to shoot
And let's be clear had Kyrie missed that go ahead 3pt shoot and Portland got the ball back and Lillard hit the game winning shot that entire 55 pt performance would have been null and voided
Again cavs had Jr and Shump defending Lillard not Kyrie now why is that? If kyrie had to play both ends he wouldn't have gone off for 55.. He ain't built that way on both ends of the floor
Real rap, he didn't miss it and they won the game so that point is moot... also, who gave up the majority of Kyries double nickel? So, THAT player that got roasted for a record breaking performance is ass on defense too?
Yo guys are reaching... He shit on Portland and Lillard, been shitting on a few good PGs lately and is playing at a high level, doing what he's paid to do. He straight torched them Niggas!
So is Westbrook better than Kyrie or more athletic? There is a difference. Fundamental, skill wise, in what areas is Westbrook so much better that
Westbrook is Westbrook and he aint going to never change, Irving on the other hand is just now coming to his own and finally learning to play the game.. With him the sky is the limit..
what 3 ball
Teams want Rose to shoot threes
I would be comfortable letting Derek Rose shoot every open three he got
And no Westbrook is not a defensive stopper. GTFOH, And I say that as one of the biggest Westbrook fans on this forum.
The difference in the Cavs defense as of late is 1)Effort 2)The change in the way they have decided to try to defend pick and rolls as outline by Blatt and Lue and 3)Mozgov
Nobody had Mozgov outlined an elite rim protector before he got on the Cavs...
If Lillard had come in here and gone off yall would be quick with the slander....let him remove the shrapnel he got from the 50 cal he got tonite..period
Rose ain't no Kyle Korver from 3 but he's definitely shooting the ball with more confidence and driving to the rim less.
And whether his FG percentages are good or bad, the fact still remains he has no confidence in his knee.
Saying you want him to take every open shot he has is how you'd play him any day of the week, even when he was averaging 25pts a night, because the alternative to him shooting is attacking the basket getting everyone in foul trouble living at free throw line and finding teammates for easy/open shots.
So that defensive strategy is par for the course..... It's typical....
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