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Their core is young so as long as they supply them with the right supporting cast they should be good, look at what the bulls did after Grant and them left, however they kept MJ and Pippen.. But the thing with the Cavs is they don't have time wast with rookies trying to get them up to speed while trying to get their act together at the same time... This is why Wiggins was a better fit with the wolves where there was no pressure for him to perform right away..

Man leave that along your know how kats feel about Wiggins and the Cavs.

Shit they didn't even let Waiters blossoming into JR instead they traded Waiters for JR, Ian and Timthony. They gave dude only a few months, even tho Anderson getting hurt probably increased willingness to start the movement.
 
Man leave that along your know how kats feel about Wiggins and the Cavs.

Shit they didn't even let Waiters blossoming into JR instead they traded Waiters for JR, Ian and Timthony. They gave dude only a few months, even tho Anderson getting hurt probably increased willingness to start the movement.

I believe that its wise to have your role players have at least 5 years in the NBA rather than have too many rookie and two year players... Now if your going to have a player like Wiggins who is a potential star in this league, you have to groom him to be a star not ask him to be a role player as the Cavs would have asked him to be here.
What I am saying, has nothing to do with Wiggins potential and how he is playing now, it has more to do with the fit it would have been for him here, and how a vets like JR and Shumpert are better suited, at this stage of their careers.
 
wiggins started out shooting disastrously and then had a good stretch of games and mofos act like he is the next coming

He may be very good, thats not the issue, the issue is, he has a much better chance at developing into the player he needs to be in Minnesota as opposed to a dysfunctional Cavs team playing under the spotlight and pressure..
 
wiggins started out shooting disastrously and then had a good stretch of games and mofos act like he is the next coming

He is 19 years old

And is balling right now

He wasn't going to come in and knock the doors down right away

But we all the the potential here
 
He is 19 years old

And is balling right now

He wasn't going to come in and knock the doors down right away

But we all the the potential here

True

But I guess I been spoilt by the likes of Kobe, Melo and Bron who came in the league and started putting their foot in people ass from the jump
 
True

But I guess I been spoilt by the likes of Kobe, Melo and Bron who came in the league and started putting their foot in people ass from the jump

that's like 17, and then over a decade ago lol


its much more rarer than we would like to admit.

everybody ain't gonna be them and durant westbrook harden and them..

way more of these types.
 
True

But I guess I been spoilt by the likes of Kobe, Melo and Bron who came in the league and started putting their foot in people ass from the jump

The one thing I've always thought, had Lebron made the decision 2.0 before the draft, the Cavs would've been better off taking Parker.
 
True

But I guess I been spoilt by the likes of Kobe, Melo and Bron who came in the league and started putting their foot in people ass from the jump

Kobe wasn't putting his foot in nobodies ass his rookie year Bruh... Matter of fact, compared to Wiggins #s his rookie numbers were weak as shit... :hmm:
 
I forgot to comment on that part when I made the post, but it's clear as day these two fuckers along with Tyrone Lue is a huge part of the chemistry problem. It not a problem like the Clippers have(players don't like each other), just some players flexing their muscles to show they're bigger than the coach, which could be the team downfall. Honestly if they keep that up I hope they don't win shit and never win shit. You got a fresh knowledgeable coach that y'all could accomplish great things with but y'all tripping fuck that.

Waiters took a shot at them. He says now he gets to touch the ball. And he is right. This team will have games when they move the ball, but much of the time, it's Kyrie or Lebron dribbling. And when Lebron dribbles, cats tend to stand around. Minimal movement just like the old box-and-one from the Mike Brown days.

Now how in the blue fuck are two different coaches -- one of whom is known for movement -- using the same shit offense? The common denominator is Lebron.

Miami doesn't get those chips without Pat Riley checking Lebron. I thought Lebron learned from Riley. Turns out I may have been wrong. Lebron seems to still be like that kid in the Twilight Zone who will wish you into the cornfield if things aren't going his way.

Cats clowning Love, but it's amazing his numbers are just about the same as Bosh's during the time Bosh had with Lebron down there. Bosh at least had Riley to check this madness.

That said, they have just enough talent to mask this shit and make a run in the playoffs.
 
Man Waiters looked bad last night at miami, matter of fact it was a two point game all 4th until they got his ass out the game. His air balls was so nasty that it started rubbing off on KD and Jackson, couldn't help but think hmmm where have I seen that before.
 
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Remodeled by two trades and buoyed by the return of LeBron James, the resurgent Cleveland Cavaliers hope to continue playing up to their lofty expectations.

After starting their four-game homestand with an impressive performance, the Cavaliers look to make it four straight wins Wednesday night against a Utah Jazz team trying to avoid its fourth consecutive road defeat.

Cleveland (22-20) has quieted questions surrounding first-year coach David Blatt's job security by getting back on track following a 1-9 stretch in which James missed eight consecutive games.

The four-time MVP now says he's feeling better than he has all season, averaging 31.8 points and 7.0 rebounds in four games since recovering from knee and back soreness.

After scoring 89.1 per game on 39.4 percent shooting over their previous seven, the Cavaliers have averaged 110.8 points with James back to the lineup. They put up at least 108 for the third straight game in Monday's 108-94 win over Central Division-leading Chicago, improving to 21-12 when James plays.

"I like the way we've been the last few games," said James, who missed Tuesday's practice with flu-like symptoms. "I like the way we've played the last week. We've played some really, really good basketball."

Cleveland followed up an impressive 126-121 road win over the Los Angeles Clippers on Friday by holding the Bulls to 37.5 percent shooting.

Kyrie Irving had 18 points and 12 assists and Kevin Love returned after missing a game due to back spasms, but it was the Cavs' new acquisitions that especially stood out. Timofey Mozgov had 15 points and 15 boards in his first home game, while J.R. Smith hit 6 of 9 3-pointers.

Smith has averaged 17.0 points and hit 20 of 47 (42.6 percent) from 3-point range in six starts since arriving in Cleveland. The other former Knick the Cavaliers acquired, Iman Shumpert, is back at practice and could return as early as Friday against Charlotte from a dislocated shoulder that's sidelined him since Dec. 12.

Although the Jazz (14-27) have held their last two opponents under 90 points, they're looking to rebound from their lowest-scoring effort in nine years in Sunday's 89-69 loss at San Antonio.

Rudy Gobert had 13 points and a season-high 18 rebounds, but Gordon Hayward was held to 10 points on 4-of-15 shooting. They were the only two Utah players in double figures in a season-worst 33.3 percent shooting effort.

Derrick Favors was held to nine points in the team's fourth defeat in five games after averaging 20.7 in his previous six. Trey Burke finished with eight after scoring 19.3 per game over his prior six.

"We couldn't throw it in the ocean," said Hayward, who had 31 points in Friday's 94-85 home win over the Los Angeles Lakers that snapped a three-game losing streak.

Hayward had 21 points and hit the winning 21-foot jumper as time expired in Utah's 102-100 home win over the Cavs on Nov. 5. He's averaged 21.3 while making 7 of 13 from beyond the arc in his last three meetings.

Irving led Cleveland with 34 points in that contest and has scored 26.7 per game in the last three versus Utah -- also producing the lone triple-double of his career in a 99-79 home victory in February.

James is averaging 29.7 points -- his top mark versus any Western Conference opponent -- in 22 career matchups, though his teams have lost six of the past nine.
 
This is the first game where there was total domination from all aspects of the game, defense, rebounding, passing, and shooting..
 
Waiters took a shot at them. He says now he gets to touch the ball. And he is right. This team will have games when they move the ball, but much of the time, it's Kyrie or Lebron dribbling. And when Lebron dribbles, cats tend to stand around. Minimal movement just like the old box-and-one from the Mike Brown days.

Now how in the blue fuck are two different coaches -- one of whom is known for movement -- using the same shit offense? The common denominator is Lebron.

Miami doesn't get those chips without Pat Riley checking Lebron. I thought Lebron learned from Riley. Turns out I may have been wrong. Lebron seems to still be like that kid in the Twilight Zone who will wish you into the cornfield if things aren't going his way.

Cats clowning Love, but it's amazing his numbers are just about the same as Bosh's during the time Bosh had with Lebron down there. Bosh at least had Riley to check this madness.

That said, they have just enough talent to mask this shit and make a run in the playoffs.


Chris Herring @HerringWSJ · Jan 20
For what it's worth, Waiters says he's "getting to touch the ball" in OKC. But per SportVU, 34 touches/gm in OKC; got 35.6 touches/gm in CLE

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https://vine.co/v/OjFOhu7B6EL :hmm: :hmm:


http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/1/20/7856835/dion-waiters-okc-thunder-ball-cleveland-cavaliers

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Waiters got touches...maybe they could have been better touches but he got em
 
Chris Herring @HerringWSJ · Jan 20
For what it's worth, Waiters says he's "getting to touch the ball" in OKC. But per SportVU, 34 touches/gm in OKC; got 35.6 touches/gm in CLE

:hmm: :hmm: :hmm:


https://vine.co/v/OjFOhu7B6EL :hmm: :hmm:


http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/1/20/7856835/dion-waiters-okc-thunder-ball-cleveland-cavaliers

:hmm: :hmm: :hmm:

Waiters got touches...maybe they could have been better touches but he got em

Two games in a row they had all five starters with 15 or more, seems like the ball is moving around a lot better since he left...
 
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FINAL: Wine & Gold up to four straight after all 5 starters finished with 15+ pts for the second dub in a row.
 
You know he feel somewhat better when he able to do this

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Damn no replies....

No replies. I wonder why. How Love do tonight? :confused: Oh yeah, 19 points and 13 boards and the Cavs got a win. Crickets.

18 pts and 10 boards average for the season(at least Lebron doesn't have to lead the team in rebounding) in this dysfunctional shit and the only time cats are in here is to shit basically shit on Love. :smh:

This so parallels Bosh's story it isn't even funny. Bosh always caught shit in Miami. BGOL and the national media gave him hell. Like Love, his numbers dropped(Bosh's highs were 18 and 7 in Miami and for 2 seasons he put up 16 and 7).

But back to the game, what really seems crazy to me is how well J.R. Smith seems to be fitting in. I knew the 7-footer would help, but J.R. Smith is fitting in a way Dion didn't.

The coach doesn't need to automatically need to bring him off the bench when Shump gets healthy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 
No replies. I wonder why. How Love do tonight? :confused: Oh yeah, 19 points and 13 boards and the Cavs got a win. Crickets.

18 pts and 10 boards average for the season(at least Lebron doesn't have to lead the team in rebounding) in this dysfunctional shit and the only time cats are in here is to shit basically shit on Love. :smh:

This so parallels Bosh's story it isn't even funny. Bosh always caught shit in Miami. BGOL and the national media gave him hell. Like Love, his numbers dropped(Bosh's highs were 18 and 7 in Miami and for 2 seasons he put up 16 and 7).

But back to the game, what really seems crazy to me is how well J.R. Smith seems to be fitting in. I knew the 7-footer would help, but J.R. Smith is fitting in a way Dion didn't.

The coach doesn't need to automatically need to bring him off the bench when Shump gets healthy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

Love has 23 double-doubles for the season as well
 
No replies. I wonder why. How Love do tonight? :confused: Oh yeah, 19 points and 13 boards and the Cavs got a win. Crickets.

18 pts and 10 boards average for the season(at least Lebron doesn't have to lead the team in rebounding) in this dysfunctional shit and the only time cats are in here is to shit basically shit on Love. :smh:

This so parallels Bosh's story it isn't even funny. Bosh always caught shit in Miami. BGOL and the national media gave him hell. Like Love, his numbers dropped(Bosh's highs were 18 and 7 in Miami and for 2 seasons he put up 16 and 7).

But back to the game, what really seems crazy to me is how well J.R. Smith seems to be fitting in. I knew the 7-footer would help, but J.R. Smith is fitting in a way Dion didn't.

The coach doesn't need to automatically need to bring him off the bench when Shump gets healthy. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.


Get off bosh dick

Love padding his stats againt the fuckin jazz foh

The reason why love gets shitted on is because he's a stat padder and a horrible defensive player

This game don't change shit

Bosh caught shit because at times he wasn't aggressive however he was a huge part of that offensive and defensive side of the ball unlike that bum ass overrated cac love
 
Bosh and Wade were so fucking bad against Charlotte last night I am beggining to get worried about MIA...

but lets discuss that in the other thread smh
 
Love has 23 double-doubles for the season as well

True. And that's with the chaos that is the Cavs offense. Let's not forget that perimeter D is lacking and someone is always in the cotdamn lane.

Get off bosh dick

Love padding his stats againt the fuckin jazz foh

The reason why love gets shitted on is because he's a stat padder and a horrible defensive player

This game don't change shit

Bosh caught shit because at times he wasn't aggressive however he was a huge part of that offensive and defensive side of the ball unlike that bum ass overrated cac love

Can't win with you cats. Bosh was collecting 7 fucking rebounds with Lebron. Lebron had to lead the team in rebounding, and you cats got the nerve to flame Love. :lol: Love just had 16 against the Bulls and 12(I know you might not know what double figure rebounds are fucking around with Bosh) rebounds. Padded his stats there too I suppose.

Both Bosh and Love are overrated. Been my argument the entire time. What Bosh post last night in the loss? 17 and 7(and he had Wade too). Can't even get double digit boards against Charlotte. :smh: 21 and 8 for the year on a fucking 18-24 squad. He is who I said he was when the Bosh dick riding festival kicked off this summer.

Your fucking team won't even match the wins Timberwolves had in a tougher conference with Love as the number one. And Love is an overrated stat stuffer???!?!?!? :lol:

The fucking hypocrisy of it all. Your team might not hit 40 wins. You better never say shit about Love when Bosh can't even lead your guys in a weaker east. Love don't even have an offensive system in Cleveland. Everybody watching the game knows this except for you Love haters.

Both these cats are third options. Period. End of story.

Bosh in the finals.... 18 and 7 against Dallas
15pts 9 boards against OKC 12 and 9 against SAS
14 and 5 against SAS

Huge part of the offense? If Love puts up those numbers in the finals, you cats are calling him an overrated CAC.....

Hell, I don't even like Love, but this making Bosh out to be Wilt when compared to Love is some bullshit. Love would have done well in Miami with Riley keeping Lebron in check and Wade instead of Kyrie.
 
Bosh and Wade were so fucking bad against Charlotte last night I am beggining to get worried about MIA...

but lets discuss that in the other thread smh

Bosh is directly connected to Love in the BGOL universe. It's been that way since Lebron landed in Cleveland and the Love rumors started.
 
True. And that's with the chaos that is the Cavs offense. Let's not forget that perimeter D is lacking and someone is always in the cotdamn lane.



Can't win with you cats. Bosh was collecting 7 fucking rebounds with Lebron. Lebron had to lead the team in rebounding, and you cats got the nerve to flame Love. :lol: Love just had 16 against the Bulls and 12(I know you might not know what double figure rebounds are fucking around with Bosh) rebounds. Padded his stats there too I suppose.

Both Bosh and Love are overrated. Been my argument the entire time. What Bosh post last night in the loss? 17 and 7(and he had Wade too). Can't even get double digit boards against Charlotte. :smh: 21 and 8 for the year on a fucking 18-24 squad. He is who I said he was when the Bosh dick riding festival kicked off this summer.

Your fucking team won't even match the wins Timberwolves had in a tougher conference with Love as the number one. And Love is an overrated stat stuffer???!?!?!? :lol:

The fucking hypocrisy of it all. Your team might not hit 40 wins. You better never say shit about Love when Bosh can't even lead your guys in a weaker east. Love don't even have an offensive system in Cleveland. Everybody watching the game knows this except for you Love haters.

Both these cats are third options. Period. End of story.

Bosh in the finals.... 18 and 7 against Dallas
15pts 9 boards against OKC 12 and 9 against SAS
14 and 5 against SAS

Huge part of the offense? If Love puts up those numbers in the finals, you cats are calling him an overrated CAC.....

Hell, I don't even like Love, but this making Bosh out to be Wilt when compared to Love is some bullshit. Love would have done well in Miami with Riley keeping Lebron in check and Wade instead of Kyrie.

I better not ever say shit ? Clown bosh still got a better record than love when he was in Toronto and a better record without Lebron than Love ever had in Minn

And Bosh is a better player on both sides of the ball than Love that's a FACT

Foh gene

CUE UP THAT WADE GIF YANKIN IT ON THAT CAC
 
I better not ever say shit ? Clown bosh still got a better record than love when he was in Toronto and a better record without Lebron than Love ever had in Minn

And Bosh is a better player on both sides of the ball than Love that's a FACT

Foh gene

CUE UP THAT WADE GIF YANKIN IT ON THAT CAC

They're a wash offensively. Love is the better rebounder. Bosh the better defender.

Love played in the west. That ends that. People have been avoiding the west since before Bosh 'dominated' as you say.

You still can't explain his lack of rebounding now and why his Heat team is 18-24. Thought he'd be 25 and 13 and the Heat would be winning 50 plus. Told you cats Bosh ain't built like that. Either is Love.
 
As for Love defense, or lack of it, you have to almost look at centers and power forwards as tandems and not an individual one on one thing, like many people look at it as..
Players like Love, Bosh and Dirk needs to be protected or paired up with larger centers to protect them.. With the addition of T-Mo on the team, Love defense has looked very good, the same can be said about Irving, who is now playing lights out defense paired up with JR.
As far as him padding his stats vs the Jazz, remember this is the same Jazz team than manhandled the Cavs front line in Utah..
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As for Love defense, or lack of it, you have to almost look at centers and power forwards as tandems and not an individual one on one thing, like many people look at it as..
Players like Love, Bosh and Dirk needs to be protected or paired up with larger centers to protect them.. With the addition of T-Mo on the team, Love defense has looked very good, the same can be said about Irving, who is now playing lights out defense paired up with JR.
As far as him padding his stats vs the Jazz, remember this is the same Jazz team than manhandled the Cavs front line in Utah..
.

Cats will have selective memory when it comes to Love.

In these last four games, the Cavs starting five set a consecutive game scoring record for the franchise as far as starters are concerned. JR is helping on both sides of the court. And the 7-footer getting in the mix is really helping the team. Tristan has come back down to earth, but the 7-footer has been consistent.

Still have to see how this group handles getting punched in the face. Usually, they fall to pieces and panic.
 
Cats will have selective memory when it comes to Love.

In these last four games, the Cavs starting five set a consecutive game scoring record for the franchise as far as starters are concerned. JR is helping on both sides of the court. And the 7-footer getting in the mix is really helping the team. Tristan has come back down to earth, but the 7-footer has been consistent.

Still have to see how this group handles getting punched in the face. Usually, they fall to pieces and panic.

After the trade I made the comment that I never seen a contender team change up the dna composition of the team as much as the cavs, this late in the season, I never imagine that the effect would be this dramatic..
Before the trades the Cavs was a undersized team, who was constantly getting bullied and pushed around in the paint, as well as one of the least athletic teams in the league, plus they were one of the worst perimeter defending teams in the NBA.
Now they are the complete opposite, think about this, with the line up of JR. Smith, Shumpert, LeBron, Thompson and T-Mo they would be one of the biggest and most athletic teams in the NBA, and that line up should be great including the perimeter and the paint..
The Utah coach said it best when he mentioned that they had to completely abandon the Cavs scouting report they had before the trades.
 
Man LetItFly Miller have a beautiful release!!!


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As for Love defense, or lack of it, you have to almost look at centers and power forwards as tandems and not an individual one on one thing, like many people look at it as..
Players like Love, Bosh and Dirk needs to be protected or paired up with larger centers to protect them.. With the addition of T-Mo on the team, Love defense has looked very good, the same can be said about Irving, who is now playing lights out defense paired up with JR.
As far as him padding his stats vs the Jazz, remember this is the same Jazz team than manhandled the Cavs front line in Utah..
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Road I'm stop you right here, Kyrie been playing great defense for a while now. I'll actually say he's been they're best defender for quite sometime. I think it was early Dec, in a post game interview he mention, him and coach Blatt talked he told him...he wanted to guard the opponents best ball handler every night".
 
This one play don't defined him as a all defender it anything...
Just the effort and awareness have increased...

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