Jr numbers looking real good
Jr gonna be good there as long as lbj is good. He feeds off the leaders energy. If the leader ain't doin good, he ain't.
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Jr numbers looking real good
What's the problem with JR?
good question, easy answer...because atl and chi right now are better teams; they both play better defense and offense than the cavs; thats just the east; gs, san, memphis are better teams as well; hell if portland is healthy they are a better team than the cavs; and lac, dallas, houston are right there if not equal the cavs at this moment; so the chances of cleveland beating chicago and atlanta and either gs or san or memphis are not good, not happening...
What's the problem with JR?
Shit If it would've came down to it and had to trade Waiters I would've took Jr by his self.
When teams realize what the need, they accomplish something, when the realized eager players can do, that's another thing accomplished. Cavs wanted Waiters to become a more JRish type player first, but still have freedom to create and attack. That process looked like it was gonna take some time. Let's be honest while if they really felt they wanted/ need to develop players they would've keep Wiggins and signed Kevin Love as a free agent(if possible).
I would try to figure why folks shit on JR some much, but that task probably would leave me brain dead.
Waiters was my "X-factor/dark horse" on this team, just because the freedom I figure he would have to score, for as not being the focus.
Waiters had a few games where he shined, but JR is being very consistent with his production, compared to Dion who looked confused/frustrated more often than not.
Jr gonna be good there as long as lbj is good. He feeds off the leaders energy. If the leader ain't doin good, he ain't.
And people really still believe in Chicago.....That team is going nowhere...
You can argue Washington or Atlanta to me......NOT CHICAGO....
The Bulls do have size and are much better suited in the playoffs than Washington as far as the Hawks goes, they sure look good while they are winning, I wanna see how they look after a few loses and see how they adjust.. But in a 7 game match up where you are playing the same team every day, I would place my money on the bulls, were I a gambling man..
Wiggins is exactly where he needs to be, in college for his final season.. The way I called the trade was Bennett wasn't going to cut it, Wiggins is the type of player who can be easily replaced for a cheap price (the Cavs wound up getting two for practically nothing JR and Shumpert plus they are vet who don't need to be potty trained).. As for the pick they gave up, to me the Cavs had too many draft picks good teams don't need more than one first round pick (most good teams are deep and their picks would wind up rotting on the bench or in the d-league often about time they get good, they wind up signing for another club).. In return they got Love, a very unique player but a hard player to replace I always saw him as a system player, and now they are playing in a system that seems to fit him better..for fcks sake will people get off this wiggings train
He spend most of the season so far shooting terribly and then caught a hot streak recently.....what about Wiggins would have alleviated the Cavs issues![]()
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I am saying this because the Bulls play that bully ball, they can actually shoot 7% lower than your team and still win by 10.. If your team isn't built a certain way, that line would not change, the only thing you can do, most of the time is try increasing your shooting % or try reducing theirs, in the playoffs however it becomes a more of a black jack game where the bulls are the house and the longer you play the greater the chances the odds start kicking in..stop making pronouncements based on small samples
you could at least wait another 30 games before making definitive judgements![]()
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They were better teams, because the Cavs totally destroyed the Bulls, in ways I've never seen the bulls beat..
Let me back track a bit first... I am not saying this Cavs team is good because they won 5 in a row, I am saying it because how they are winning and what they are doing.... Do you realize in the last three games (when they really found the sweet spot to their rotation) they dominated every quarter in this run except the 4th quarters in the Bulls and Jazz game during garbage time.. They are dominating in every faze of the game, its not like the G.S. game last night where Thompson had a monster game, the Cavs 76 points at half time vs one of the leagues 10th best defensive team, with out anyone having a monster game.
Teams can have winning records, winning streaks but to dominate you have to do the following, be able to replicate a monster game vs different styles and systems, be able to shine in the spot light, and not have any glaring weaknesses..
I can tell you gs weakness, get them in a half court game, have guards with size and speed to disrupt the splash brother shot (similar to what OKC did to them) turn them into a jump shooting team, while not allowing them 2nd chance rebound opportunity..
The Cavs have two big athletic guards who can play the perimiter and they are one of the best rebounding teams now.. Plus they have their share of three point shooters plus LeBron would carve them up..
Memphis, run them out the gym and have big men to battle Zack and Gasol they have no closer and if you don't double up the big men their offense can get very stagnant..
A very poor match up vs this Cavs team and several teams in the west, don't see them moving on..
Dallas and Houston are not that good, if you actually think they have glaring flaws you don't know shit about basketball..
The just beat the clippers, at their home after the tail end to a back to back, and that was before they sorted out their rotation, did you notice how Irving locked down Paul though? But their weakness is Jordan foul shooting and Griffin tends to get caught up on not knowing what he is, settling for jump shots while not making his teammates better..
Now the Hawks are an interesting team, one with out any big weaknesses, sure you may be able to attack them in the middle with big men who can move, but the biggest weakness I see in them is that they don't have a finisher and that they have a lot of good players and no great players..
So if they are playing against a team with a great player who can make his teammates good, plus they are able to attack the rim and have size and speed in the perimeter to contest those open three's , well I think that is the blue print to beating them..
Also you have to realize a lot of these teams look good playing game after game vs different teams, in the playoffs you have no such luxury, its more about the match ups and adjustments usually the teams with the most weaknesses would be exploited and exposed... And right now this Cavs team has very little weaknesses I can see...
Shumpert and JR can defend the perimeter because they have the things jump shooters hate, they have good foot speed and they are tall, athletic with hops.. Plus with the inside defense the way it is, they no longer get caught up having to switch up on every pick and roll.. So in short all they have to do is stand in front of their man, not worry about them driving past them too much (now they have help in the paint) so no need for deep cushions and other than that they can use their length to their advantage. Something they couldn't do with Waiters and Irving.5 game winning streak; cool looks good, but they played lakers(awful), clippers(solid), bulls(without their best defensive player, some say their best player), utah(awful), charlotte(awful)...so in this win streak the cavs have played 1 solid team, and 1 elite team without its best player...So they have been dominating scrubs...When they beat good teams consistently then get back at me
Who are the guards that can guard the perimeter??JR SMITH and Shump..dude JR Smith isnt that great of a defender and always will show his true colors and shump isnt guarding any elite perimeter players effectively...
Irving and Love still play no defense...Mozgoz is solid but hes not stopping any talented big man...and the CAVS bench is ok at best...
GS has the CAVS beat at every position except small forward; and they have better bench and better coach...And remember GS is going to get better the longer the season goes...
Memphis has u beat on inside and probably even on the perimeter but they play better defense and offense; and they play better together...
SA well we dont need to talk about them; They are just better...
ATLANTA is just better than the CAVS in every way right now...Can things change yep, will they probably not...CAVS aint winning it this year bro, not this year...
5 game winning streak; cool looks good, but they played lakers(awful), clippers(solid), bulls(without their best defensive player, some say their best player), utah(awful), charlotte(awful)...so in this win streak the cavs have played 1 solid team, and 1 elite team without its best player...So they have been dominating scrubs...When they beat good teams consistently then get back at me
Who are the guards that can guard the perimeter??JR SMITH and Shump..dude JR Smith isnt that great of a defender and always will show his true colors and shump isnt guarding any elite perimeter players effectively...
Irving and Love still play no defense...Mozgoz is solid but hes not stopping any talented big man...and the CAVS bench is ok at best...
GS has the CAVS beat at every position except small forward; and they have better bench and better coach...And remember GS is going to get better the longer the season goes...
Memphis has u beat on inside and probably even on the perimeter but they play better defense and offense; and they play better together...
SA well we dont need to talk about them; They are just better...
ATLANTA is just better than the CAVS in every way right now...Can things change yep, will they probably not...CAVS aint winning it this year bro, not this year...
G.S. would most likely lose to OKC based on the match ups.. Just like Atlanta would most likely lose to the Bulls and the Cavs.. I have a simple formula that usually can predict who wins and who loses, the team who takes the most easiest shots usually beats the team who have to take spectacular shots, both G.S. and Atlanta live and die by the spectacular long range shots and I don't know if you seen the Cavs play lately but they got their shit down pact where they are getting a slam, layup or a open three every time down the court.. Its not like they are having a good game, they are playing regular and doing this shit, plus they are killing it with both defense and rebounding.. Can't see G.S or Atlanta out rebounding this team nor do they have the players to defend against the Cavs, now that that ganging up on LeBron in the paint doesn't work anymore.. Now teams are stuck with playing him one on one, and so far all that has yielded was James slamming time and time again at will.Ah so GSW and the Hawks are the absoulte favorites now![]()
I have watched the nba too long now to put major faith in either of those squads
People always fail to take into account.....NBA playoffs are a different beast..a 7 game series when you are the primary target and can be scouted from top to bottom is another dimension...
I would bet to say that Atlanta will find the playoffs a lot more stressful than their hypemen think...
And if GSW meets OKC....I aint betting on Klay and Curry outplaying Russ and KD....nope NO SIR
G.S. would most likely lose to OKC based on the match ups.. Just like Atlanta would most likely lose to the Bulls and the Cavs.. I have a simple formula that usually can predict who wins and who loses, the team who takes the most easiest shots usually beats the team who have to take spectacular shots, both G.S. and Atlanta live and die by the spectacular long range shots and I don't know if you seen the Cavs play lately but they got their shit down pact where they are getting a slam, layup or a open three every time down the court.. Its not like they are having a good game, they are playing regular and doing this shit, plus they are killing it with both defense and rebounding.. Can't see G.S or Atlanta out rebounding this team nor do they have the players to defend against the Cavs, now that that ganging up on LeBron in the paint doesn't work anymore.. Now teams are stuck with playing him one on one, and so far all that has yielded was James slamming time and time again at will.
So let the Warriors and Hawks be favorites and let the so called experts think the Cavs are the same team they were a month ago, but also watch what happens when a jump shooting team meets a team that can do it all....
All I can say is the Bulls can beat the Hawks by 10 by shooting 7% worse, same thing can be said if the Cavs were to play the Hawks and G.S. in my opinion the best matches vs the Cavs would be a healthy younger Spurs team, the Bulls and perhaps Memphis and OKC.. If you cant out rebound the Cavs and you have to double up on LeBron they are going to carve you alive... Look at the Hornets and how well they their defense been playing as of late, and you know they were up for that game vs the Cavs too...I dont know if I agree with your assesment. My only point was to state that gaudy regular season offenses have been shown time and time again to have spanners thrown in the spokes when playoffs start....
When teams only have to play one opposing squad 4 times over a week as opposed to 4 different squads tendencies get sussed out...
A guard will know that when he sees a certain action that he can expect someone to run off a brush screen...or someone is more prone to roll to the basket.....
Teams begin to fight harder for that rebound.....you will go 9-23 from 3pt land versus 14-23......these things happen
Atlanta is still going to beat Chicago...they are just more versatile and Rose isnt himself...Butler's production is trending downward as of late(might pick back up tho)
As for GSW....Russ is going to make life hard for Stephen Curry....like I always say.....when you make someone have to work both sides of the ball...shit becomes harder.....you think Curry is gonna drain 7 threes and thats the end of it....no Russ is gonna come at him every possesion..bad shot dont matter Steph still will have to work and expend energy....good shot....rebound...steal.. and dont tell me that you are relying on David Lee and Draymond Green to be release valves when things get tight..![]()
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G.S. would most likely lose to OKC based on the match ups.. Just like Atlanta would most likely lose to the Bulls and the Cavs.. I have a simple formula that usually can predict who wins and who loses, the team who takes the most easiest shots usually beats the team who have to take spectacular shots, both G.S. and Atlanta live and die by the spectacular long range shots and I don't know if you seen the Cavs play lately but they got their shit down pact where they are getting a slam, layup or a open three every time down the court.. Its not like they are having a good game, they are playing regular and doing this shit, plus they are killing it with both defense and rebounding.. Can't see G.S or Atlanta out rebounding this team nor do they have the players to defend against the Cavs, now that that ganging up on LeBron in the paint doesn't work anymore.. Now teams are stuck with playing him one on one, and so far all that has yielded was James slamming time and time again at will.
So let the Warriors and Hawks be favorites and let the so called experts think the Cavs are the same team they were a month ago, but also watch what happens when a jump shooting team meets a team that can do it all....
Don't you have a horrible Miami team to worry about? Cavs will be fine. Will you guys hit .500?Man stop it. I understand being biased for the team you cheer for but this is ridiculous. You blindly ignore the accomplishments of the Hawks.
Within the last 29 games the Hawks are 27-2 and are currently on a 15game win streak. Not only are they winning but they are smashing the top teams in the NBA by double digits.
The Cavs have not done anything all seasons and you are making insane predictions off the Cavs recent wins against some of the worst teams in the NBA. You also need to start watching the Hawks play because they are not a 3 point jump shooting team. Where in the world did you get that from? Hawks score a lot of points in or near the paint area and average between 30 to 40 assists a game.
The big white boy Mok and Thompson is what you count on defending Al and milsap? They will space the floor and drive by them all game. They can't guard out on the perimeter.
Now that the Cavs won a few games against some of the worst teams in the NBA you flat out disrespect the Warriors and Hawks as if Cleveland are proven champs![]()
Man stop it. I understand being biased for the team you cheer for but this is ridiculous. You blindly ignore the accomplishments of the Hawks.
Within the last 29 games the Hawks are 27-2 and are currently on a 15game win streak. Not only are they winning but they are smashing the top teams in the NBA by double digits.
The Cavs have not done anything all seasons and you are making insane predictions off the Cavs recent wins against some of the worst teams in the NBA. You also need to start watching the Hawks play because they are not a 3 point jump shooting team. Where in the world did you get that from? Hawks score a lot of points in or near the paint area and average between 30 to 40 assists a game.
The big white boy Mok and Thompson is what you count on defending Al and milsap? They will space the floor and drive by them all game. They can't guard out on the perimeter.
Now that the Cavs won a few games against some of the worst teams in the NBA you flat out disrespect the Warriors and Hawks as if Cleveland are proven champs![]()
Funny how he calls the Clippers, Bulls and Hornets (yes the same Hornets that beat the Heat 78 to 76 then give up 75 vs the Cavs in the first half) poor teams at his convenience..Don't you have a horrible Miami team to worry about? Cavs will be fine. Will you guys hit .500?
Man stop it. I understand being biased for the team you cheer for but this is ridiculous. You blindly ignore the accomplishments of the Hawks.
Within the last 29 games the Hawks are 27-2 and are currently on a 15game win streak. Not only are they winning but they are smashing the top teams in the NBA by double digits.
The Cavs have not done anything all seasons and you are making insane predictions off the Cavs recent wins against some of the worst teams in the NBA. You also need to start watching the Hawks play because they are not a 3 point jump shooting team. Where in the world did you get that from? Hawks score a lot of points in or near the paint area and average between 30 to 40 assists a game.
The big white boy Mok and Thompson is what you count on defending Al and milsap? They will space the floor and drive by them all game. They can't guard out on the perimeter.
Now that the Cavs won a few games against some of the worst teams in the NBA you flat out disrespect the Warriors and Hawks as if Cleveland are proven champs![]()
Why would I have to throw anything out in a heartbeat when I never say this team is garenteed to win or lose, and when I always say the games are won and lossed on the courts..I kind of agree with you but lets look at the history of the nba.....tell me when have gaudy offensive regular teams ever put up repeats of that performance in the playoffs
Dont for a second think that playing a team in a 7 game series is ever the same as when you catch them in back to back or when they have played 4 games in 5 nights
Sometimes beating teams is a function of when in the schedule you might have met them
Road Rage says absurd things sometimes no doubt. He will be ready to throw everything he said out the window in a heartbeat
I picked the Hornets to make it to the playoffs, but then Stephenson just messed up the team chemistry (yeah, that's overstating the obvious)but they are playing well now by going back to their identity defense first, feeding the big man down in the paint, and have Lance come off the bench...Road I'm just being messy...what you think about this...
"Hornets beat Melo-less Knicks 76-71 for 9th win in 11 games"