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So y'all believe Litecoin is :itsawrap: ?
For the past week I've been debating with myself whether or not I should just trade my LTC for NEO. What's y'all opinion?

Wouldn't fault you if went that route. NEO will probably go back up a lot quicker than litecoin, in my opinion. Plus it pretty low from its high last month. It's at 85.38 right now as of this post.
 
So y'all believe Litecoin is :itsawrap: ?
For the past week I've been debating with myself whether or not I should just trade my LTC for NEO. What's y'all opinion?
I don't believe Litecoin is done at all. It's just not a point to buy right now. That could change during this month. It's still the 3rd best crypto there is and could potentially be the cyrpto used to make payments. Potentially, cause you never know.

I would buy NEO over it because NEO has more room to grow and I also believe it is a better platform. Litecoin has the name.
 
I don't believe Litecoin is done at all. It's just not a point to buy right now. That could change during this month. It's still the 3rd best crypto there is and could potentially be the cyrpto used to make payments. Potentially, cause you never know.

I would buy NEO over it because NEO has more room to grow and I also believe it is a better platform. Litecoin has the name.
And that's the thing. There's a LOT of better platforms right now than LTC, which is why I'm expecting the market to look way different when it picks back up.
 
Fuck Litecoin. I see why Lee dumped. Any divisible crypto(some like NEO aren't divisible) can be accepted as payment as long as it's fast enough. Platforms over currency coins IMHO. Some of these platforms are doing both public and private integration. NEO(with onchain), VEN(all those fucking partners), ICX(nice partners as well as use cases), Walton(building private partners and has control over hardware), and some others.

Crazy thing is a platform like NEO has something(GAS) that can double as a currency coin. I think THOR will operate the same for VEN.
 
https://usethebitcoin.com/litecoin-launches-new-payment-options-merchants-litepay-litepal/

Litecoin (LTC) is one of the oldest and more resilient cryptocurrencies in the market. Since it was created in 2011, the developers behind this currency have been working hard to offer fast and cheap payments to the community. Now, Litecoin has launched two new payment platforms known as LitePay and LitePal.

New Litecoin Payment Processors
LitePal will be the first payment processor for Litecoin in the market. The release is expected to be between Q2 and Q3 of the current year.

The official LitePal account wrote in Twitter:

“LitePal is a Litecoin-first payment processor. We envision a cryptocurrency world where Litecoin is utilised by merchants from all over the world; one streamlined, simple, less confusing process. Thank you @SatoshiLite for creating the LTC we all love.”

Besides that, the client that wants to use LitePal can pay through Litecoin, PayPal, or Western Union.

LitePay will allow merchants, individuals and enterprises from all over the world to accept Litecoin payments. Merchants and vendors will be able to receive Litecoin payments paying 1% every transaction, compared to 3% charged by credit cards. Payments can be done using Litecoin and the seller can receive the money in his local currency without being suffering chargebacks or giving sensitive information.

The individual pays with Litecoin during the checkout process, LitePay converts the Litecoin instantly to the local currency, shielding enterprises from any volatility risk, and the deposit can be seen in the bank account.

When the announcement was done, Litecoin reacted very positively to it. Indeed, the cryptocurrency was operating negatively and with important loses for all the top 100 currencies. Litecoin was the only one operating up. At the moment of writing this article, Litecoin is being traded around $145 dollars. Besides that, Litecoin is the sixth most important cryptocurrency by market capitalization with $7.8 billion dollars.

Ray Lim, manager of Xtreme Enterprise in Casemod Product said:

“LitePal is not ground breaking but it’s the first step towards mass adoption. If Visa and MasterCard coms aboard this card, then we’ll see the moon.”
 
This FUD is crazy my boy is trying to get me to sell everything saying they are going to make it illegal.

Thank god the DOW is tanking too. Take some heat off crypto FUD.

Last time I listened to someone not in crypto about this shit was in September(China FUD) and it cost me tens of thousands of my profits. :angry: :angry: Those tens of thousands really turned out to be hundreds of thousands after the last run. :angry::angry::angry::angry:
 
Thank god the DOW is tanking too. Take some heat off crypto FUD.

Last time I listened to someone not in crypto about this shit was in September(China FUD) and it cost me tens of thousands of my profits. :angry: :angry: Those tens of thousands really turned out to be hundreds of thousands after the last run. :angry::angry::angry::angry:

Well I am picking up what you are putting down. Its just hard to see those numbers drop. So you are saying just HOLD?

If you haven't noticed Im just looking for some reassurance as my wife is giving me "that eye"
 
Thank god the DOW is tanking too. Take some heat off crypto FUD.

Last time I listened to someone not in crypto about this shit was in September(China FUD) and it cost me tens of thousands of my profits. :angry: :angry: Those tens of thousands really turned out to be hundreds of thousands after the last run. :angry::angry::angry::angry:

u aint lyin easy b just posted the dow is down a thousand points..

which really offsets the fud, especially on shit like bloomberg radio...

they are the fuckin worst when it comes to sneak shitting on crypto currency..

fuckin good news for crypto Taiwan trying to become a cryptocurrency hub and pick off where japan an south korea left off..

and all they did was focus on negative shit, like the exchange that was hacked...


taiwan making moves is great news but they did their best to shit all over it...
 
Well I am picking up what you are putting down. Its just hard to see those numbers drop. So you are saying just HOLD?

If you haven't noticed Im just looking for some reassurance as my wife is giving me "that eye"

Your wife is giving you that eye? Shit. I had mine panic selling NEO, GAS, BNB, and WTC during the China FUD. She made profits, but she left so much on the table.

Funny. She isn't built for this crash either. She looking at me crazy during this dip. o_O "How's your portfolio doing?"

It's very hard to watch shit drop. But I pull profits during bull runs and am more than willing to ride through the fire.
 
This FUD is crazy my boy is trying to get me to sell everything saying they are going to make it illegal.

hey its your money do what you will with it...

like I said before, I remember a few years back when bitcoin hit a thousand for the first time, then slid back to three hundred..

everybody was sayin it was the end of bitcoin, bitcoin was going to worth less, better sell while you can...

and a few years later those that sold could barely look at themselves in the mirror today...

like I said, there maybe a lot of things happening with crypto, but for them to just make it illegal at this point is just crazy talk..

where is he getting his this news from?
 
https://usethebitcoin.com/litecoin-launches-new-payment-options-merchants-litepay-litepal/

Litecoin (LTC) is one of the oldest and more resilient cryptocurrencies in the market. Since it was created in 2011, the developers behind this currency have been working hard to offer fast and cheap payments to the community. Now, Litecoin has launched two new payment platforms known as LitePay and LitePal.

New Litecoin Payment Processors
LitePal will be the first payment processor for Litecoin in the market. The release is expected to be between Q2 and Q3 of the current year.

The official LitePal account wrote in Twitter:

“LitePal is a Litecoin-first payment processor. We envision a cryptocurrency world where Litecoin is utilised by merchants from all over the world; one streamlined, simple, less confusing process. Thank you @SatoshiLite for creating the LTC we all love.”

Besides that, the client that wants to use LitePal can pay through Litecoin, PayPal, or Western Union.

LitePay will allow merchants, individuals and enterprises from all over the world to accept Litecoin payments. Merchants and vendors will be able to receive Litecoin payments paying 1% every transaction, compared to 3% charged by credit cards. Payments can be done using Litecoin and the seller can receive the money in his local currency without being suffering chargebacks or giving sensitive information.

The individual pays with Litecoin during the checkout process, LitePay converts the Litecoin instantly to the local currency, shielding enterprises from any volatility risk, and the deposit can be seen in the bank account.

When the announcement was done, Litecoin reacted very positively to it. Indeed, the cryptocurrency was operating negatively and with important loses for all the top 100 currencies. Litecoin was the only one operating up. At the moment of writing this article, Litecoin is being traded around $145 dollars. Besides that, Litecoin is the sixth most important cryptocurrency by market capitalization with $7.8 billion dollars.

Ray Lim, manager of Xtreme Enterprise in Casemod Product said:

“LitePal is not ground breaking but it’s the first step towards mass adoption. If Visa and MasterCard coms aboard this card, then we’ll see the moon.”

Yeah, that's what I meant. It could potentially be the top crypto used for making payments. Even if other cyrptos are better, it has the mainstream name and it works.
 
u aint lyin easy b just posted the dow is down a thousand points..

which really offsets the fud, especially on shit like bloomberg radio...

they are the fuckin worst when it comes to sneak shitting on crypto currency..

fuckin good news for crypto Taiwan trying to become a cryptocurrency hub and pick off where japan an south korea left off..

and all they did was focus on negative shit, like the exchange that was hacked...


taiwan making moves is great news but they did their best to shit all over it...

Damn. Didn't hear about Taiwan. But I do know Japan isn't like South Korea nor is it like China. They trying to make big moves with crypto and are embracing it. Alas, the media doesn't seem to want to right great stories about it. Singapore is like that too. So are some European nations.

Blooomberg has an agenda. Fuck them.

But if you notice countries that are banning shit and those who aren't have one thing in common. They are embracing blockchain. China bans trading but loves the tech. Some of the best projects are in China.

That's why I think platforms are the way to go because they flourish in all jurisdictions. They can be used by big business and mom and pops the world over. Meanwhile, banks will continue to bitch about using crypto as payments.
 
Damn. Didn't hear about Taiwan. But I do know Japan isn't like South Korea nor is it like China. They trying to make big moves with crypto and are embracing it. Alas, the media doesn't seem to want to right great stories about it. Singapore is like that too. So are some European nations.

Blooomberg has an agenda. Fuck them.

But if you notice countries that are banning shit and those who aren't have one thing in common. They are embracing blockchain. China bans trading but loves the tech. Some of the best projects are in China.

That's why I think platforms are the way to go because they flourish in all jurisdictions. They can be used by big business and mom and pops the world over. Meanwhile, banks will continue to bitch about using crypto as payments.

banks better not bitch too long... crypto banks are going to be a reality...
 
hey its your money do what you will with it...

like I said before, I remember a few years back when bitcoin hit a thousand for the first time, then slid back to three hundred..

everybody was sayin it was the end of bitcoin, bitcoin was going to worth less, better sell while you can...

and a few years later those that sold could barely look at themselves in the mirror today...

like I said, there maybe a lot of things happening with crypto, but for them to just make it illegal at this point is just crazy talk..

where is he getting his this news from?

From some guy who created his own "coin".

Don't get me wrong I got a fat stash of XRP and a few others. I am not letting go of anything, just after having that conversation with him, had me feeling a way.
 
From some guy who created his own "coin".

Don't get me wrong I got a fat stash of XRP and a few others. I am not letting go of anything, just after having that conversation with him, had me feeling a way.

they may make those pump and dump scheme coins illegal....

but as far as the sound coins go very unlikely, but everybody should have their coins stored in their own wallets...

exchanges getting hacked is way more of a concern than coins becoming illegal..

Im sure many ol skool institutions would love for crypto to be illegal... but to just make it so is not feasible at this point...

what Im going to do is forget about this crypto for a few weeks


pretend I dont even own any....
 
This FUD is crazy my boy is trying to get me to sell everything saying they are going to make it illegal.
Shiiiiid. One of tech-head boys from my college days who put me on a lot of shit like building PCs and bittorrent back in '02 is SUPER anti-crypto and I know he's known about BTC for a years. Dude has been spittin all kinds off FUD ever since I told him I was in the game. "Pull out while you still can", "the bubble's gonna pop". During our last debate I find out he works for a business bank and even knows Chicago investment bankers.....:hmm:
Then there's this.....Back in November he sends me a pic of what I can only describe as a Linus Tech-Tips type of set up comprised of what I think were 16 full-tower PCs stack on a big ass rack
This slick muthafucka's been mining on a low :lol:
 
This is messed up if true...everyone is trying to get a piece of the pie by any means.

CRUNCH NETWORK
VISA and Mastercard make it harder to buy Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies


bitcoin-tie.png

Justin Mauldin

Sometime in the last week Bitcoin investors started noticing additional fees on their bank statements. It turns out that VISA and Mastercard both decided (how convenient!) to reclassify the way Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency purchases are processed on their networks. Incidents like this pose several challenges for the cryptocurrency industry short-term, but also show just how scared the incumbents really are.

Currently, if you want to buy bitcoin, ethereum or any other alt-coin instantly, the only option is to use your debit or credit card. Transferring funds from your bank has lower fees, but takes several days. Coinbase has long accepted debit and credit cards for instant buys, however, passing on to the buyer the standard 4 percent credit card transaction fee.

Now, it seems VISA and Mastercard have quietly reclassified the way Coinbase credit card purchases are processed on their networks. Coinbase transactions (and presumably all other exchanges, as well) are now being labeled as a “cash advance” rather than a “purchase.” Fees will vary by institution, but what this means is that using a credit card will result in an additional 5 percent fee tacked on by your credit card merchant, in addition to the 4 percent credit card transaction fee already passed on by Coinbase.

Even worse is that cash advances do not fall under the standard interest-free grace period that consumers expect for other credit card purchases. The moment the Coinbase purchase goes through, the transaction accrues and compounds daily. If that isn’t bad enough, the interest rate is also higher for cash advances  —  an astonishing 25.99 percent in one case. Lastly, but equally as important for some consumers, these purchases will no longer qualify for earning credit card points.

For example, a $5,000 instant bitcoin purchase made on Coinbase using a VISA or Mastercard credit card will now result in roughly $500 in fees + interest too. For most people, losing 10 percent of your investment in fees means that the practice of using a credit card to buy cryptocurrency is effectively over. It will become more difficult for investors to purchase bitcoin and other cryptocurrency on their terms. Transferring funds via ACH takes three to five business days. In a world where cryptocurrency prices can swing wildly in either direction, a week feels like a nail-biting eternity.

In an email to all customers last night Coinbase confirmed the change, claiming “the MCC code for digital currency purchases was changed by a number of the major credit card networks” and will now allow banks and card issuers to charge “additional cash advance fees.” When asked for comment a spokesperson for Mastercard had this to say: “Over the past few weeks, we have clarified to acquirers — or the merchant’s bank — the right transaction or merchant category code to use for these type of transactions (cryptocurrency purchases). This provides a consistent view of such purchases for both merchants and issuers.”

If anything, this change makes things more complicated in the short term. Authorities are already divided on what bitcoin “is”: the IRS has already said bitcoin is not “currency” and treats it as taxable property, however, credit card companies are now telling us that buying bitcoin is the same thing as pulling cash out of an ATM.

Both things can’t be true. By reclassifying Coinbase (and presumably all other exchanges, as well), VISA and Mastercard are doing their best to make it harder, slower and more expensive for people to invest in cryptocurrency. Credit card companies believe it’s in their best interest to turn away millions in additional revenue in exchange for slowing the rush of investment into bitcoin. In many ways, that’s true. The rise of bitcoin and future cryptocurrency is tied to the eventual fall of financial middlemen like VISA and Mastercard. Maybe they just woke up to it.
 
This is messed up if true...everyone is trying to get a piece of the pie by any means.

CRUNCH NETWORK
VISA and Mastercard make it harder to buy Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies


bitcoin-tie.png

Justin Mauldin

Sometime in the last week Bitcoin investors started noticing additional fees on their bank statements. It turns out that VISA and Mastercard both decided (how convenient!) to reclassify the way Bitcoin and other cryptocurrency purchases are processed on their networks. Incidents like this pose several challenges for the cryptocurrency industry short-term, but also show just how scared the incumbents really are.

Currently, if you want to buy bitcoin, ethereum or any other alt-coin instantly, the only option is to use your debit or credit card. Transferring funds from your bank has lower fees, but takes several days. Coinbase has long accepted debit and credit cards for instant buys, however, passing on to the buyer the standard 4 percent credit card transaction fee.

Now, it seems VISA and Mastercard have quietly reclassified the way Coinbase credit card purchases are processed on their networks. Coinbase transactions (and presumably all other exchanges, as well) are now being labeled as a “cash advance” rather than a “purchase.” Fees will vary by institution, but what this means is that using a credit card will result in an additional 5 percent fee tacked on by your credit card merchant, in addition to the 4 percent credit card transaction fee already passed on by Coinbase.

Even worse is that cash advances do not fall under the standard interest-free grace period that consumers expect for other credit card purchases. The moment the Coinbase purchase goes through, the transaction accrues and compounds daily. If that isn’t bad enough, the interest rate is also higher for cash advances  —  an astonishing 25.99 percent in one case. Lastly, but equally as important for some consumers, these purchases will no longer qualify for earning credit card points.

For example, a $5,000 instant bitcoin purchase made on Coinbase using a VISA or Mastercard credit card will now result in roughly $500 in fees + interest too. For most people, losing 10 percent of your investment in fees means that the practice of using a credit card to buy cryptocurrency is effectively over. It will become more difficult for investors to purchase bitcoin and other cryptocurrency on their terms. Transferring funds via ACH takes three to five business days. In a world where cryptocurrency prices can swing wildly in either direction, a week feels like a nail-biting eternity.

In an email to all customers last night Coinbase confirmed the change, claiming “the MCC code for digital currency purchases was changed by a number of the major credit card networks” and will now allow banks and card issuers to charge “additional cash advance fees.” When asked for comment a spokesperson for Mastercard had this to say: “Over the past few weeks, we have clarified to acquirers — or the merchant’s bank — the right transaction or merchant category code to use for these type of transactions (cryptocurrency purchases). This provides a consistent view of such purchases for both merchants and issuers.”

If anything, this change makes things more complicated in the short term. Authorities are already divided on what bitcoin “is”: the IRS has already said bitcoin is not “currency” and treats it as taxable property, however, credit card companies are now telling us that buying bitcoin is the same thing as pulling cash out of an ATM.

Both things can’t be true. By reclassifying Coinbase (and presumably all other exchanges, as well), VISA and Mastercard are doing their best to make it harder, slower and more expensive for people to invest in cryptocurrency. Credit card companies believe it’s in their best interest to turn away millions in additional revenue in exchange for slowing the rush of investment into bitcoin. In many ways, that’s true. The rise of bitcoin and future cryptocurrency is tied to the eventual fall of financial middlemen like VISA and Mastercard. Maybe they just woke up to it.

well it is just proving that they know crypto currency is here to stay and they are shook as shit over it...

just like the article says it also contradicts what the irs is saying about crypto not being currency...

so its giving the crytpo community some legal ammunition when dealing with the irs and their greed...

mayne we are living in some really interesting times..

glad I got in early.

by the way I dont think this applies to debit cards but I will have to investigate....
 
well it is just proving that they know crypto currency is here to stay and they are shook as shit over it...

just like the article says it also contradicts what the irs is saying about crypto not being currency...

so its giving the crytpo community some legal ammunition when dealing with the irs and their greed...

mayne we are living in some really interesting times..

glad I got in early.

by the way I dont think this applies to debit cards but I will have to investigate....

All the shit contradicts. You get a fed case for selling too much crypto person to person without a money transmitter license. :hmm:

As for the cards and how they are treated, just creating more barriers. I like it. Sad that I do. But it just means more for those of us who been in it.
 
not knowing a thing, i dropped some money in ADA because someone in here recommended it. My wife was damn near ready to draft up the divorce papers. This was before thanksgiving.....now she driving a 2018 buick enclave with no car note
My Man!!! Good stuff! I like hearing that!

If you don't mind me asking, how much you put on it?
 
A couple weeks ago I made a post saying that you should go all in on Bitcoin and Litecoin when Bitcoin falls below 8,000, which is now. You should buy some Bitcoin now, but don't buy Litecoin. Litecoin already had it's mini-rallly. There is a chance that Bitcoin could fall to around 5,800, but it doesn't really matter. Now is a good time to buy regardless and there's always the chance that it may not fall to 5,800. I bought some already at this point and have another buy setup at 7,100. You can think of 7,000 as the next psychological support point.

If you do want to buy Litecoin for some reason, put a buy in at $105. If it never drops that low again, don't worry about it. Buy it again when the whole market goes bullish in March-April.
Your post reads like you have some automatic buy limits set up, I'm wondering what kind of software or broker you're using.
 
All the shit contradicts. You get a fed case for selling too much crypto person to person without a money transmitter license. :hmm:

As for the cards and how they are treated, just creating more barriers. I like it. Sad that I do. But it just means more for those of us who been in it.

wait a fuckin minute you could catch a fed case from trading crypto from person to person, do you know what the legal limit is...??

I thought this was america, I thought this was land of the free..
 
Buying Lisk is easy money right now. They're doing a full rebranding plus releasing their SDK at the end of the month. They were on a run right before the latest freefall.
 
Your post reads like you have some automatic buy limits set up, I'm wondering what kind of software or broker you're using.

Just go to any exchange and use the limit buy option. Put any number you like, and when it hits that number, it buys it for you.
 
wait a fuckin minute you could catch a fed case from trading crypto from person to person, do you know what the legal limit is...??

I thought this was america, I thought this was land of the free..

Who knows what the limit is. But if you making any type of money in this game, don't fucking do it. I doubt you getting knocked for moving a few thousand dollars. I noticed during summer of 2017 they wanted KYC for localbitcoin. o_O With the premium? :giggle:

Compare that with 2013. Shit is hot as fuck right now. IRS says it's not money. Feds will get you. State might get you. It's all fucked up and in their favor unless you trade to fiat through their rules. Also, those gyft cards now require bitpay or coinbase. They controlling entries and exits to fiat.
 
Just go to any exchange and use the limit buy option. Put any number you like, and when it hits that number, it buys it for you.
I started with coinbase, but decided to get the fuck away from them since it took them a month to disable 2FA so I could recover my account.
I'm with Binance, and I signed up with Poloniex... but I haven't done anything with either since signing up. They're both more complicated than coinbase and I haven't sat & figured it out.

I sent all my BTC to my offline wallet, and plan to send my other stuff to one of the exchanges.
 
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