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Harvard (Nocoiner) Professor Predicts Bitcoin Price Crash to $100
Adam James
March 6, 2018 · 2:00 pm
dWithout discussing current and potential benefits of the dominant cryptocurrency, Harvard University professor and former IMF chief economist Kenneth Rogoff has decided now is the right time to boldly predict that Bitcoin will bottom out at $100 in 10 years.

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According to Harvard University professor and economist Kenneth Rogoff, Bitcoin is far more likely to be traded at $100 than at $100,000 ten years from now.

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Rogoff told CNBC’s “Squawk Box”:

I think bitcoin will be worth a tiny fraction of what it is now if we’re headed out 10 years from now … I would see $100 as being a lot more likely than $100,000 ten years from now.

While it’s nearly impossible to see one decade into the future, we’re going to go out on a limb and say — should that prediction come true — we’ll be looking at a massive buying opportunity.

Rogoff’s prediction contrasts sharply with Bitwise Asset Management’s Vice President of Research and Development Matt Hougan’s — who predicted Bitcoin and cryptocurrency is a multi-trillion dollar industry.

Only Criminals Use Bitcoin — Right?!
Rogoff, the former chief economist of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), explained his reasoning with some serious misinformation:

Basically, if you take away the possibility of money laundering and tax evasion, [Bitcoin’s] actual uses as a transaction vehicle are very small.

Naturally, Rogoff glosses over both the current and future benefits of transacting Bitcoin in favor of any FUD thrower’s favorite argument: it’s only used by criminals.

Rogoff fails to mention technological advancements, such as Lightning Network, which may make transacting the cryptocurrency instantaneous and easy for both vendors and customers.

Instead, he claims the vast majority of Bitcoin transactions are for illegal purposes — despite studies suggesting said transactions make “significantly less” than 20 percent of all Bitcoin transactions.

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A United Crackdown That Probably Won’t Happen
Rogoff also claims that government regulation on a global scale will cause Bitcoin’s price to plummet, though he admits that it won’t happen any time soon. He told CNBC:

It really needs to be global regulation. Even if the U.S. cracks down on it and China cracks down, but Japan doesn’t, people will be able to still launder money through Japan.

World governments have already expressed varying stances on cryptocurrency, and it’s unlikely every major world power will unanimously agree on a regulatory framework — since, if history is any indication, countries can rarely unanimously agree on anything.
 
Harvard (Nocoiner) Professor Predicts Bitcoin Price Crash to $100
Adam James
March 6, 2018 · 2:00 pm
dWithout discussing current and potential benefits of the dominant cryptocurrency, Harvard University professor and former IMF chief economist Kenneth Rogoff has decided now is the right time to boldly predict that Bitcoin will bottom out at $100 in 10 years.

Start Saving Now
According to Harvard University professor and economist Kenneth Rogoff, Bitcoin is far more likely to be traded at $100 than at $100,000 ten years from now.

rogoff.jpg


Rogoff told CNBC’s “Squawk Box”:

I think bitcoin will be worth a tiny fraction of what it is now if we’re headed out 10 years from now … I would see $100 as being a lot more likely than $100,000 ten years from now.

While it’s nearly impossible to see one decade into the future, we’re going to go out on a limb and say — should that prediction come true — we’ll be looking at a massive buying opportunity.

Rogoff’s prediction contrasts sharply with Bitwise Asset Management’s Vice President of Research and Development Matt Hougan’s — who predicted Bitcoin and cryptocurrency is a multi-trillion dollar industry.

Only Criminals Use Bitcoin — Right?!
Rogoff, the former chief economist of the International Monetary Fund (IMF), explained his reasoning with some serious misinformation:

Basically, if you take away the possibility of money laundering and tax evasion, [Bitcoin’s] actual uses as a transaction vehicle are very small.

Naturally, Rogoff glosses over both the current and future benefits of transacting Bitcoin in favor of any FUD thrower’s favorite argument: it’s only used by criminals.

Rogoff fails to mention technological advancements, such as Lightning Network, which may make transacting the cryptocurrency instantaneous and easy for both vendors and customers.

Instead, he claims the vast majority of Bitcoin transactions are for illegal purposes — despite studies suggesting said transactions make “significantly less” than 20 percent of all Bitcoin transactions.

reut-bitcoin-accepted-here-1120x700.jpg


A United Crackdown That Probably Won’t Happen
Rogoff also claims that government regulation on a global scale will cause Bitcoin’s price to plummet, though he admits that it won’t happen any time soon. He told CNBC:

It really needs to be global regulation. Even if the U.S. cracks down on it and China cracks down, but Japan doesn’t, people will be able to still launder money through Japan.

World governments have already expressed varying stances on cryptocurrency, and it’s unlikely every major world power will unanimously agree on a regulatory framework — since, if history is any indication, countries can rarely unanimously agree on anything.

Of course this dumb-dumb was in charge of the IMF. :smh: Clearly he's too stupid to understand the benefit of crypto as a replacement for fiat based national currencies in emerging economies or he more than understands it's value and how that will limit the IMF's own reason for existing. Meh thinks it's the latter. Fuck this guy.
 
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I have that as well, however Delta doesn't allow me to set price alerts when the price goes below a certain threshold, only above (maybe they added this in an update?).

The other issue I have with Delta is even when I hide my balances by telling it to just show the percentages, it'll still show my exact holdings if I view the details of a coin. There's probably a way to hide that too, but blockfolio has a fairly easy way to hide/unhide my balances.

But I do really like how I can set the alerts to USD value in Delta.

You get an alert whenever it crosses either above or below. It works for me.
 
Wow...

The United States Corporation is about to switch from fiat to crypto. This is the second stage that is the reason all the so called tax laws are being created. Coinbase and other sites are the new age banking system.

Mining and blockchain is the new real estate agents.

Damn... they on some other level shit

Its all set up to replace fiat
 
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FinCEN: Money Transmitter Rules Apply to ICOs


The Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) published a letter Tuesday that indicates the U.S. agency will apply its regulations to those who conduct initial coin offerings (ICOs).
In the letter, which was sent to U.S. Senator Ron Wyden last month, FinCEN's assistant secretary for legislative affairs, Drew Maloney, explained that both developers and exchanges involved in the sale of an ICO-derived token would be liable to register as a money transmitter and comply with the relevant statutes around anti-money laundering and know-your-customer (KYC) rules.
The letter reads:
"...a developer that sells convertible virtual currency, including in the form of ICO coins or tokens, in exchange for another type of value that substitutes for currency is a money transmitter and must comply with AML/CFT requirements that apply to this type of [money services business]. An exchange that sells ICO coins or tokens, or exchanges them for other virtual currency, fiat currency, or other value that subsitutes for currency, would typically also be a money transmitter."​
The distinction is a notable one given the recent regulatory developments around the blockchain funding model. Washington, D.C.-based Coin Center, which published the letter after it became available today, explained in a blog post that, under this interpretation of the law, a group that conducts an ICO that involves U.S. residents but hadn't registered with FinCEN as a money transmitter and adhere to KYC regulations may be charged with a felony under federal law.
Coin Center later told CoinDesk in an email: "We do not agree with their assessment and believe such a decision should be subject to the open rulemaking process."
That said, the FinCEN letter goes on to note that "ICO arrangements vary" and that there are jurisdictional differences depending on the make-up of an ICO and its associated token. Token sales structured as a sale of securities or derivatives would fall under U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) or Commodity Futures Trading Commission (CFTC) regulations, respectively.
FinCEN indicated that it such regulatory obligations as they relate to ICO participants would depend on the relevant circumstances as well.
"The application of AML/CFT obligations to participants in ICOs will depend on the nature of the financial activity involved in any particular ICO. This is the matter of the facts and circumstances of each case."
According to Maloney, FinCEN is working with other U.S. agencies on this issue, explaining:


https://www.coindesk.com/fincen-money-transmitter-rules-apply-ico-developers-exchanges/
 
https://www.coindesk.com/son-of-wu-tang-clan-rapper-is-launching-a-cryptocurrency/

The son of Ol' Dirty Bastard, the late hip-hop artist and Wu-Tang Clan member who passed away in 2004, is launching a cryptocurrency.

Young Dirty, real name Bar-Son James, is the face of the appropriately named Dirty Coin, a cryptocurrency being produced in partnership between the estate of Ol' Dirty and Link Media Partners, an entertainment industry firm. Dirty Coin (ticker symbol ODB) will exist as a token on the TAO blockchain network, and is set to be traded on the AltMarket exchange later this year when the coin goes live.

It's a notable launch, given last year's spate of celebrity-endorsed ICOs - and the subsequent warning from the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission that such endorsements may break "anti-touting" laws.

In the case of Dirty Coin, the project is aimed at both serving as a funding base for an upcoming Young Dirty album, as well as a means for fans to access shows and buy merchandise. The coin will be able to be used to purchase merchandise tied to the late rapper as well.




"If fans basically bought a Dirty Coin before the concert, they have a better chance of getting in, probably for the price of nothing. So it's a big opportunity for our fans," Young Dirty said in an interview.

Speaking to CoinDesk, Young Dirty suggested that the project may spur other performance artists to take a closer look at cryptocurrency, which he called "the biggest thing known to man."

"When other artists get involved, I think there's gonna be a chain reaction," he commented.

Though an exact date hasn't been set for the launch, Dirty Coin will be sold in what its backers call an "initial artist offering," expected to be held this summer.

"Music thrives creatively and financially when it's in the hands of the artist themselves. By removing the price tag of experimentation, we're able to deliver for both the artist and their fans," said Bryce Weiner, CEO of AltMarket.

As for what his father would have thought about the growth in cryptocurrencies - bitcoin would first emerge some four years after his death in 2004 - Young Dirty told CoinDesk:

"He would've been like, 'I knew this was coming.'"

Young Dirty Bastard image via Facebook
 
I am looking to get into an ICO but if i am a US citizen i would have to go through the accreditation verification process which will request all my information. If I am from another country I do not need to do this. My question is there a way to get around this accreditation process? I do not want uncle same knowing what crypto's I have invested in?
 
I am looking to get into an ICO but if i am a US citizen i would have to go through the accreditation verification process which will request all my information. If I am from another country I do not need to do this. My question is there a way to get around this accreditation process? I do not want uncle same knowing what crypto's I have invested in?
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I am looking to get into an ICO but if i am a US citizen i would have to go through the accreditation verification process which will request all my information. If I am from another country I do not need to do this. My question is there a way to get around this accreditation process? I do not want uncle same knowing what crypto's I have invested in?

See^^^ I'm seeing more and more of this. They about to force a black market for ICO participation. :smh: There are just too many fucking immigrants in countries that are acting crazy over ICOs and trying to enforce old bullshit on this new thing.

Rich will get richer selling ICOs for 5x to 'protected' Joe Average on exchanges. :smh:

Upcoming projects are going to be a lot more solid. Folks will want to get in. The resourceful folks will.
 
These cocksuckers at the SEC are at it again. Was truly hoping these bloodsucking ghouls wouldn't do anything until later this year, but another 'public' statement is released without these idiots making any regulations. :smh:

Bad enough Americans can't get in on any ICOs, now they about to make sure we can't even get in on exchanges. :smh: Decentralized exchanges can't get here fast enough. They haven't even addressed which digital assets are considered securities nor have they clarified how the fuck ICOs are securities. This 'POTENTIAL' bullshit is pure fuckery.

The binance API bullshit and this in the same day. :smh:

https://www.sec.gov/news/public-sta...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Statement on Potentially Unlawful Online Platforms for Trading Digital Assets
Divisions of Enforcement and Trading and Markets

March 7, 2018

Online trading platforms have become a popular way investors can buy and sell digital assets, including coins and tokens offered and sold in so-called Initial Coin Offerings ("ICOs"). The platforms often claim to give investors the ability to quickly buy and sell digital assets. Many of these platforms bring buyers and sellers together in one place and offer investors access to automated systems that display priced orders, execute trades, and provide transaction data.

A number of these platforms provide a mechanism for trading assets that meet the definition of a "security" under the federal securities laws. If a platform offers trading of digital assets that are securities and operates as an "exchange," as defined by the federal securities laws, then the platform must register with the SEC as a national securities exchange or be exempt from registration. The federal regulatory framework governing registered national securities exchanges and exempt markets is designed to protect investors and prevent against fraudulent and manipulative trading practices.
 
These cocksuckers at the SEC are at it again. Was truly hoping these bloodsucking ghouls wouldn't do anything until later this year, but another 'public' statement is released without these idiots making any regulations. :smh:

Bad enough Americans can't get in on any ICOs, now they about to make sure we can't even get in on exchanges. :smh: Decentralized exchanges can't get here fast enough. They haven't even addressed which digital assets are considered securities nor have they clarified how the fuck ICOs are securities. This 'POTENTIAL' bullshit is pure fuckery.

The binance API bullshit and this in the same day. :smh:

https://www.sec.gov/news/public-sta...al&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

Statement on Potentially Unlawful Online Platforms for Trading Digital Assets
Divisions of Enforcement and Trading and Markets

March 7, 2018

Online trading platforms have become a popular way investors can buy and sell digital assets, including coins and tokens offered and sold in so-called Initial Coin Offerings ("ICOs"). The platforms often claim to give investors the ability to quickly buy and sell digital assets. Many of these platforms bring buyers and sellers together in one place and offer investors access to automated systems that display priced orders, execute trades, and provide transaction data.

A number of these platforms provide a mechanism for trading assets that meet the definition of a "security" under the federal securities laws. If a platform offers trading of digital assets that are securities and operates as an "exchange," as defined by the federal securities laws, then the platform must register with the SEC as a national securities exchange or be exempt from registration. The federal regulatory framework governing registered national securities exchanges and exempt markets is designed to protect investors and prevent against fraudulent and manipulative trading practices.

hey man...you do a great job of looking @ the big picture and have foreseen several things way before they popped off but you also gotta read between the lines too...all this means is you just have to be more meticulous about the ICOs you participate in...there are still going to be many ICOs available to US participants and @ the least we will be able to sell those coins on exchanges that will be compliant...bittrex has been somewhat neutered but it’s still a major exchange and poloniex under new ownership can hopefully see a resurgence...I can’t remember if it was in this thread or our slack channel...but US citizens represent the largest percentage of the market...things may get a little rough but we won’t be frozen out the market that easily...remember waltonchain...we just have to look for what makes sense amidst the chaos...for starters I’d actually do the opposite and keep targeting solid american-based projects/ICOs...dragonchain is a lock imo...syncfab is another one...these are just for starters...drawing a parallel between this and the chinese FUD last september...the projects/companies that are willing to play ball are the ones who will excel...just have to be vigilant and pay attention to which ones they are
 
hey man...you do a great job of looking @ the big picture and have foreseen several things way before they popped off but you also gotta read between the lines too...all this means is you just have to be more meticulous about the ICOs you participate in...there are still going to be many ICOs available to US participants and @ the least we will be able to sell those coins on exchanges that will be compliant...bittrex has been somewhat neutered but it’s still a major exchange and poloniex under new ownership can hopefully see a resurgence...I can’t remember if it was in this thread or our slack channel...but US citizens represent the largest percentage of the market...things may get a little rough but we won’t be frozen out the market that easily...remember waltonchain...we just have to look for what makes sense amidst the chaos...for starters I’d actually do the opposite and keep targeting american-based projects/ICOs...dragonchain is a lock imo...syncfab is another one...these are just for starters...drawing a parallel between this and the chinese FUD last september...the projects/companies that are willing to play ball are the ones who will excel...just have to be vigilant and pay attention to which ones they are

What I fear is that everyone has to fucking guess. After the SEC pulled this shit last year, ICOs started telling us to fuck off. Bitfinex kicked us. Bitrexx started acting funny.

Basically, foreign entities don't want to entertain America's bullshit(see European banks). Do you guess which tokens the clowns over at the SEC consider securities or just ban Americans? What do you think Binance will do? Delist ICO tokens just because these assclowns CLAIM ICOs are securities? Binance does have enough money though to tie this up.

We do know lawyers on the crypto side are preparing for a fight. How do these antiquated security rules apply to decentralized crypto? Where are the specific rules applying to crypto?
 
What I fear is that everyone has to fucking guess. After the SEC pulled this shit last year, ICOs started telling us to fuck off. Bitfinex kicked us. Bitrexx started acting funny.

Basically, foreign entities don't want to entertain America's bullshit(see European banks). Do you guess which tokens the clowns over at the SEC consider securities or just ban Americans? What do you think Binance will do? Delist ICO tokens just because these assclowns CLAIM ICOs are securities? Binance does have enough money though to tie this up.

We do know lawyers on the crypto side are preparing for a fight. How do these antiquated security rules apply to decentralized crypto? Where are the specific rules applying to crypto?
What's keeping us U.S. citizens from traveling abroad and finding someone to help us go thru the process to join ICOs?
 
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