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FYI U.S. Rating agency to issue Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency Grades Wednesday

https://news.bitcoin.com/u-s-rating-agency-to-issue-bitcoin-and-cryptocurrency-grades-wednesday/

This is desperately needed

From the article:

“Many cryptocurrencies are murky, overhyped and vulnerable to crashes. The market desperately needs the clarity that only robust, impartial ratings can provide,”
said Weiss Ratings founder, Martin D. Weiss, PhD. “We’re proud to be the first to bring that benefit to investors — to help them cut through the hype and identify the few truly solid cryptocurrencies. Our ratings are based on hard data and objective analysis. But they’re bound to create controversy, including some grades that may come as a surprise to some people.”
 
Snagged this from another site. Anybody have any tax issues? Advice... Thoughts? Soundoff Crypto Ballers!

BITCOIN TAX

Bitcoin is a peer-to-peer (P2P) electronic cash that allows worldwide money transfers without the need for intermediaries/third-party. The Bitcoin network is basically maintained by a combination of cryptography and computer science (e.g. Blockchain technology) and unlike a fiat currency, Bitcoin does not have a central authority and is not issued nor backed by any central bank. Instead, new Bitcoins are generated by the so-called Mining process. Despite being a cryptocurrency, Bitcoin presents a unique set of features and may be used as both a store of value (property) and virtual currency – for investment or trading purposes. This article addresses the US tax code and its implications on Bitcoin and Cryptocurrencies. According to the Notice 2014-21 published by the US Internal Revenue Service (IRS), “Virtual currency is a digital representation of value that functions as a medium of exchange, a unit of account, and/or a store of value […]. Virtual currency that has an equivalent value in real currency, or that acts as a substitute for real currency, is referred to as “convertible” virtual currency. Bitcoin is one example of a convertible virtual currency.” However, as cryptocurrencies are not issued by a central bank, the IRS decided to treat Bitcoin as property rather than currency when it comes to taxation. [1] Whether you are a consumer, merchant, mine, or service provider, the IRS perceives Bitcoin users and holders as investors. [2] The IRS has made it mandatory to report any kind of Bitcoin transaction, no matter how small in value. A payment made using Bitcoin is subject to information reporting to the same


extent any other payment made is in property. Using Bitcoin for long-term investing or shortterm usage (such as buying goods or services) will be subject to capital gains tax. Capital gains tax arises when you sell a capital asset (e.g. Bitcoin, stock, bond, real estate) for more than its purchase price. It can be subdivided into short-term (sold within one year of purchase) and long-term (when the asset is held for more than one year before being sold). Therefore, the US jurisdiction presents a different rate of capital gains taxation for short-term and long-term capital gains (based on the length of time the asset was held). The accrued longterm gains are taxed at the taxpayer’s applicable capital gains tax rate (from 0% to 23.8%) according to the individual’s personal income and tax bracket. The short-term gains are taxed at the same rate as the ordinary income taxes (from 10% to 37%). Considering the complexity of US tax code, traders/investors are recommended to consult with a qualified tax professional about their specific situation. Since Bitcoin is considered by the IRS as a property and not a currency, it is much more difficult to write off the capital losses. Capital losses are the opposite of capital gains and “are reportable as deductions on the investor’s tax return, just as capital gains must be reported as income.” [3] The IRS caps capital loss deductions at $3,000 per year. If a loss exceeds that of $3,000 in one year, the short-term losses may be carried over to the following tax years until the amount of the loss is exhausted. The capital losses may be used to offset gains and reduce taxable income. In summation, if you sell your Bitcoins for profit, these profits are taxed. If you sell your Bitcoins at a loss, these losses may be used to deduct and reduce your taxes (capped at $3,000 annually). Spending Bitcoins to buy goods or services is equivalent to selling your coins and is also taxed as capital gains/losses. Until now, only trades between fiat and crypto were taxed, with traders and investors paying taxes only when they “cashed out” or spent their coins. However, a new tax code, recently signed into law by United States president Donald Trump, will make all cryptocurrency trades a taxable event. The new code will take effect on the first day of 2018. In order to have an accurate measurement of your crypto-income, it is important to keep your trading records. Third-party exchanges and hosted wallet services usually allow users to download their Trade History, making it easier to track their transactions and to determine their cost basis – the original value of an asset for tax purposes (usually the purchase price plus fees). In other words, the cost basis is the value of an asset at the moment you receive or buy it. When an asset is sold, the cost basis is used to determine your profit or loss, which in turn affects the amount of tax you owe.

The IRS requires that taxpayers report their capital gains/losses based on their cost basis, which is usually the fair market value (FMV) for the date they received or bought their Bitcoins/assets (and also for the day they sell them). The FMV is the price that a buyer and seller are willing to exchange an asset (basically the current average market price). Let’s suppose Alice bought some Bitcoins for $500 each in 2016 and then sold these coins to Bob in 2017 for $1,000 each. Alice’s cost basis was $500 for each BTC (roughly the fair market value at the moment she bought in 2016). On the other hand, Bob’s cost basis was $1,000 for each coin. In theory, the fair market value reported by Alice when selling her Bitcoins should be equivalent to Bob’s reported cost basis at the moment he bought them from Alice. Moreover, mined cryptocurrencies are recognized income and taxed according to their fair market value at the exact moment they were mined. Mining equipment investments can be deducted as legitimate business expenses. DONATIONS AND GIFTS

When Bitcoins are used for charitable donations there are three potential scenarios regarding the taxes. The first and most common scenario happens when a Bitcoin user wants to make a donation to a 501(c) charity that has the IRS approval to collect tax-exempt donations but does not have the proper set up to accept donations via Bitcoin. In this case, the donor would be first required to sell some of his Bitcoins and cash out the money in order to donate. Therefore, his sales would be liable to capital gain taxes just as any other asset sale. However, the subsequent donation would still be tax-exempt and could be used to reduce his ordinary income taxes.

The second possible scenario takes place when the charity accepts donations via Bitcoin transfers and the investor is able to directly donate without the need to convert his coins into fiat. In this case both the recipient charity and the donor would have to file the IRS tax form 8283, which is used for noncash donations (i.e. property, vehicles, collectible art, Bitcoin). The US “IRS allows donors to write off the entire fair market value of donated property which has been held for over a year (up to 30% of adjusted gross income) without stipulating a capital-gains tax.” [4] Therefore, this scenario is more beneficial for donations that were originated from longterm Bitcoin holdings. The third possible scenario happens when the charity institution does not have the IRS 501(c) approval to collect tax-exempt donations. In this case, the organization would be liable to capital gains taxes just as Bitcoin investors and would be required to maintain a record of every donation received. If the charity institution posteriorly gets the IRS 501(c) approval, the first scenario would take place. When it comes to gift taxes, taxpayers are usually exempt from paying taxes as long as the total value of the gift does not exceed $15,000 per year, per person. It is the giver of the gift who is required to pay the gift taxes. According to the IRS FAQ on Gift Taxes, “the general rule is that any gift is a taxable gift”, but there are some exceptions to this rule: 1. There are no limitations on gifts to spouses 2. Political organizations, charities. 3. Anyone that receives medical expenses or tuition gifts. Although gift recipients are usually exempt from gift taxes, this may not always be the case when it comes to cryptocurrencies. Any gift of property that realizes capital gains or losses is subject to taxes according to the property’s cost basis at the moment it was bought. So if Alice donates 1 Bitcoin to Bob, the holding period and cost basis are inherited and do not change. If Alice paid $600 for the coin in 2016 and then donate it to Bob in 2017, Bob would still have the same cost basis of $600. If he sells the Bitcoin for $1000, his $400 capital gain would be subject to taxes. Similarly, if Bob sells the Bitcoin at a loss, he can use it to reduce the taxable income.


LOSS OF FUNDS


If your Bitcoins get stolen or lost, you may deduct your losses under the Section 165 of the Internal Revenue Code, which covers casualty and theft losses. However, the value lost would not be the current market value of your Bitcoin, but the amount for which you bought it. Moreover, there is a limitation that requires you to decrease your deduction in $100 plus 10% of your adjusted gross income (AGI). So if Alice buys 1 Bitcoin for $7,000 that gets lost or stolen, she cannot deduct her loss if her AGI is $69,000 or higher. If Alice’s AGI is $50,000, she can deduct a loss of $1,900 ($7,000 - $100 - $5,000). Each specific case may have different tax implications depending on the circumstances of your loss. Therefore, it is recommended that you seek for professional tax consultancy in this instances.


FINAL CONSIDERATIONS Despite being a burden for most Cryptocurrency investors, accurately recording and reporting Bitcoin income is a crucial aspect of the digital currency economy. When it comes to Bitcoin and Cryptocurrencies taxation, each country has a different set of regulations and there is still a great need for clearer instructions. Be sure to look into the tax code and laws of your own country to find specific details. Considering that the US tax code is extremely complex, it is recommended that investors and traders consult with qualified and experienced professionals (e.g. accountants, tax attorneys) in order to ensure that your tax filings are done in the right way. Regarding Bitcoin, there are several services designed to help users, such as CoinReporting and Bitcoin Taxes.



● Bitcoin is a personal property, not a currency, and so is taxed as a capital asset; ● Gains made from converting Bitcoins into a fiat currency are subject to capital gains tax; ● Purchases of goods or services with Bitcoins are also subject to capital gains tax; ● The capital gains tax rate is different for short-term (higher) and long-term (lower) investments; ● The IRS limits capital loss deductions at $3,000 per year; ● Beginning January 1st, 2018, all cryptocurrency trades will be taxable events. ● Mined cryptocurrencies are recognized income and taxed according to the fair market value at the exact moment they were mined; ● Mining equipment investments can be deducted as legitimate business expenses; ● Bitcoin donations are taxed according to the circumstances; ● Gifted Bitcoins inherit their holding period and cost bases. ● Any gift of property that realizes capital gains/losses is subject to taxes based on the cost basis at the moment it was first bought/acquired; ● Stolen or lost funds may be deducted under the Section 165 of the Internal Revenue Code.


 
This is desperately needed

From the article:

“Many cryptocurrencies are murky, overhyped and vulnerable to crashes. The market desperately needs the clarity that only robust, impartial ratings can provide,”
said Weiss Ratings founder, Martin D. Weiss, PhD. “We’re proud to be the first to bring that benefit to investors — to help them cut through the hype and identify the few truly solid cryptocurrencies. Our ratings are based on hard data and objective analysis. But they’re bound to create controversy, including some grades that may come as a surprise to some people.”


This would be great if we could actually believe that they were impartial. I highly doubt that they are...
 
What do you base your doubt on?
Weiss is well respected in the financial industry.

Well respected, yes. I don't have any concrete facts to base my doubt on. I'm just very suspicious of anything that can influence the price of crypto. And this will likely be a huge influence on price for the foreseeable future.

We have seen the power of FUD and this has the potential to unleash a wave of FUD that we haven't seen before. It could also artificially drive up prices for coins that recieve a higher rating.

Business is all about the narrative. This rating will be responsible for writing a huge part of the narrative for several coins.
 
Hey crypto famo

Stay away from these coins

Got this listing from reddit.

  1. Davor/Davorcoin
  2. Hextracoin
  3. Ethconnect
  4. Moneroconnect
  5. USI Tech
  6. Regalcoin
  7. Bitconnect X
  8. Exacoin
  9. LoopX
  10. Numiv
  11. Neoconnect
  12. Chrysos
  13. Falcon Coin
  14. Goldgate
  15. Ideacoin
  16. Forzacoin
  17. Martcoin
  18. Ibiscoin
  19. Cointeum
  20. HotCrypto
  21. BCC Cash
  22. Bitfinite
  23. Ucoin Cash
  24. Unix Coin
  25. Western Coin
  26. Steneum
  27. Monyx
  28. Pagarex
  29. Monetize Coin
  30. Libra Coin
  31. Secular Coin
  32. Thorn Coin
  33. Lendconnect
  34. Bitglare Coin
  35. Knox Coin
  36. Eigencoin
  37. SFICoin
  38. TEX Coin
  39. Gold Reward Token
  40. Ficoin
  41. Binary Coin
Good lookin out. I was looking at LoopX ico but never pulled the trigger to get in on it.
 
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I honestly don't even know what this SHND coin is for but that description is hilarious. Does it have a product or are u just supposed to buy it and hold it just for the purpose of demonstrating your strong hands... Bwahahahaha
It's supposedly been getting alot of popularity in Asia, mainly Japan. People are expecting it to be the next Dogecoin.
 
This is desperately needed

From the article:

“Many cryptocurrencies are murky, overhyped and vulnerable to crashes. The market desperately needs the clarity that only robust, impartial ratings can provide,”
said Weiss Ratings founder, Martin D. Weiss, PhD. “We’re proud to be the first to bring that benefit to investors — to help them cut through the hype and identify the few truly solid cryptocurrencies. Our ratings are based on hard data and objective analysis. But they’re bound to create controversy, including some grades that may come as a surprise to some people.”
:roflmao:
 
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Any news or analysis that isn't positive is considered 'FUD'. This shit is becoming cultish.
Did you just witness what the Koreans did? Do you know anything about clickbait titles? It's not about being cultish. It's about people who have the power influencing shit and probably getting cheap cryptos.

We haven't even scratched the surface of MSM and government officials manipulating markets. The shit works to shake people out.
 
Did you just witness what the Koreans did? Do you know anything about clickbait titles? It's not about being cultish. It's about people who have the power influencing shit and probably getting cheap cryptos.

We haven't even scratched the surface of MSM and government officials manipulating markets. The shit works to shake people out.

the dude who you responding to took a $100 hit then started complaining about the whole game being a scam in another thread the same day...he’s just as biased as these articles...if we're in one cult then he’s in another lol
 
Man, I just don't understand all of these alt-coins. The cynic in me says this is just a way for the exchanges and creators of alt-coins to collect and save more bitcoins.
Here's one of my main concerns with alt-coins - How do you determine what to buy?
It seems like one big guessing game.
I invest in stocks and some may say that trading stocks is also a guessing game. But with stocks I can point to key points of data to make an
educated guess. I can learn about the company, the CEO, the board, the companies financials, etc, etc, etc. With alt-coins I have no idea what I'm buying or the people behind it. It's as if everyone is chasing the latest hyped coin and trying to make a quick buck. I'm not trying to be negative. I'm trying to understand what exactly is going on.

you were barely two weeks into the game when you made this comment...it takes time obviously...everything you mentioned re: stocks can be done w/ altcoins...you can research the company and the product via their white paper...you can research the CEO and the company team...you can research company financials by looking into how much $$$ they made or seek to make during an ICO and how they plan to allocate the $$$ etc, etc, etc...hopefully by now you are taking steps to learn how to do that...if not there are youtubers who make videos analyzing altcoin projects/companies until you feel comfortable doing it yourself...yes it can be a guessing game early on esp. IF one is still grasping the technical aspect of it or in some cases simply too lazy to look into projects on their own or just simply looking to follow the crowd

anyway I bumped this cuz I’m reading your posts and it reeks of frustration and you running toward the negatives to justify your early stumbling...I understand the frustration but remaining objective and being honest w/ yourself and your capability is what will help push you forward to succeed IF you still want to...if not then just bounce...but these FUD articles are just that...we’ve seen reputable investors before shit on bitcoin...only to literally turn around weeks later and apologize (after they probably loaded up during the downturn which they piled on w/ their FUD)...in a thread like this where information is crucial and moves fast...shit like this bogs it down...you could just as easily use that time to find the information you seek about altcoins that are confusing to you
 
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Any news or analysis that isn't positive is considered 'FUD'. This shit is becoming cultish.

...and here’s a real challenge...anyone can recycle a negative piece or a cute little video that denigrates bitcoins/altcoins to come across like they’re knowledgeable on the subject...but can you research a project/company on your own and be able to objectively articulate why you believe it will fail or succeed using the same metrics (and then some) that you mentioned you were able to successfully use w/ stocks? when you get to that point you will meet w/ success in this game as well because that will put you in a position to eliminate the bullshit whether it’s ‘positive’ or ‘negative’ and to see opportunities/pitfalls where others may not
 
...and here’s a real challenge...anyone can recycle a negative piece or a cute little video that denigrates bitcoins/altcoins to come across like they’re knowledgeable on the subject...but can you research a project/company on your own and be able to objectively articulate why you believe it will fail or succeed using the same metrics (and then some) that you mentioned you were able to successfully use w/ stocks? when you get to that point you will meet w/ success in this game as well because that will put you in a position to eliminate the bullshit whether it’s ‘positive’ or ‘negative’ and to see opportunities/pitfalls where others may not

you aint lying bloomberg radio was talking about bitcoin, and they placed emphasis on those that bought bitcoin at its highest point and lost forty percent...

and kept mentioning how risky it was to invest in bitcoin...

they have a real slick way when they reporting on bitcoin and crypto currency and its a hundred percent fear mongering....

like I said this game is not for the weak...
 
you aint lying bloomberg radio was talking about bitcoin, and they placed emphasis on those that bought bitcoin at its highest point and lost forty percent...

and kept mentioning how risky it was to invest in bitcoin...

they have a real slick way when they reporting on bitcoin and crypto currency and its a hundred percent fear mongering....

like I said this game is not for the weak...
Weak people don't get rich!!!
 
you aint lying bloomberg radio was talking about bitcoin, and they placed emphasis on those that bought bitcoin at its highest point and lost forty percent...

and kept mentioning how risky it was to invest in bitcoin...

they have a real slick way when they reporting on bitcoin and crypto currency and its a hundred percent fear mongering....

like I said this game is not for the weak...

Weak people don't get rich!!!

we had some really sharp brothers jump in this thread and dictate the tone early on and maintained it as long as they could...things that are happening now in the industry (including FUD from the media) are things that cats predicted close to a year ago
 
we had some really sharp brothers jump in this thread and dictate the tone early on and maintained it as long as they could...things that are happening now in the industry (including FUD from the media) are things that cats predicted close to a year ago

exactly a lot of folks new to the game dont understand how bitcoin was anti bank, in fact a lot of early adapters hate ripple because of its bankin purpose...

but most crypto currency especially the privacy ones like monero puts the fear of God in govts and big banks...

and they know they cant stop it, unless they shut the internet down,

their only hope is to control it through fear mongering through msm..

unfortunately for now its somewhat effective but in time it wont be...

if the irs dont change that tax law, and make it simple..

they are gonna lose a lot of tax money in the near future...

its gonna be easy as hell to buy and sell and move money under thier gluttonous noses..

they need to make it so no matter how much you make the most you pay in crypto taxes is a certain amount..

and stop tryin to make a dime off of every fuckin dollar...

thats just gonna force people to seek alternatives.. and there will be many alternatives in the coming years...
 
Thanks for this.....A medical coin has been on my "watch for" list for a while now

Am I missing something, it said they were not accepting US investors at this time when I went to the token sale website.[/QUOTE]The general consensus on YT is to ignore it or use a VPN. A personal friend of mine purchased a "not for USA" ICO with no vpn...no problem so far....
 
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