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People have spent over $1M buying virtual cats on the Ethereum blockchain
Posted by Fitz Tepper (@fitztepper)
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Launched a few days ago, CryptoKitties is essentially like an digital version of Pokemon cards but based on the Ethereum blockchain. And like most viral sensations that catch on in the tech world, it’s blowing up fast.

Built by Vancouver and San Francisco-based design studio AxiomZen, the game is the latest fad in the world of cryptocurrency and probably soon tech in general.

People are spending a crazy amount of real money on the game. So far about $1.3M has been transacted, with multiple kittens selling for ~50 ETH (around $23,000) and the “genesis” kitten being sold for a record ~246 ETH (around $113,000). This third party site tracks the largest purchasesmade to date on the game. And like any good viral sensation prices are rising and fluctuating fast. Right now it will cost you about .03 ETH, or $12 to buy the least expensive kitten in the game.

So now we have people using Ether, an asset with arguably little tangible utility – to purchase an asset with unarguably zero tangible utility. Welcome to the internet in 2017.

In all seriousness, it’s a little bit reminiscent of the beanie baby trend where people were paying insane amounts of money for stuffed animals. But if the popularity continues to increase these people may be able to make a return by reselling or breeding their rare kittens, or they’ll be stuck holding the virtual cryptographic keys to a virtual rare kitten when the market crashes in a few day, like eventually happened with beanie babies.

There are a few cool things about the game though, and putting aside the valuation absurdity it’s actually a cool way for beginners to interact with the Ethereum blockchain.

First off, it’s important to understand that since it’s played on the Ethereum blockchain there’s no central entity managing the game. This means users literally own their kittens. Unlike playing Neopets where everything was stored on a central database and your pet was deleted when the company shut down, CryptoKitties is decentralized and will live forever on the Ethereum blockchain.

The game is run via a set of 5 Ethereum smart contracts written by AxiomZen, and users interact with it via their own Ethereum address. Right now the easiest way to do that is by using the Chrome extension MetaMask which gives you the ability to send and receive Ethereum directly in your browser. You then would navigate to the CryptoKitties site which is essentially an interface to interact with their smart contracts so you can buy sell and breed kittens.

Right now about 15% of all Ethereum network traffic is dedicated to the game, making it the most popular smart contract on the network. For reference, number two with about 8% of network transactions is EtherDelta, the popular decentralized token exchange.

This traffic is making it hard to play CryptoKitties, and a lot of transactions (like buying and selling cats) are taking longer than usual to process and needing multiple attempts.

Due to network congestion, we are increasing the birthing fee from 0.001 ETH to 0.002 ETH. This will ensure your kittens are born on time! The extra is needed to incentivize miners to add birthing txs to the chain. Long-term solution will be explored very soon!

— CryptoKitties (@CryptoKitties) December 3, 2017



Not only is this making it hard to play the game, but this scaling issue is a real concern for the Ethereum network in general. If one viral game that hasn’t even spread beyond the tech world can slow down the network, what happens when the blockchain expands to real world applications?

Anyways, back to the game. Still confused? Us too. Here’s an explanation of how it works:

How to Play
The game was seeded with 100 “Founder Kitties”. There’s also one new “Gen 0” cat released ever 15 minutes, which are listed for the average price of the last five sold, plus 50% – but the sale price declines over 24 hours until someone eventually buys it.


And anyone can sell their kittens via an auction, where they pick a starting price and an ending price and the price declines over time until someone buys it. So for example I could put a kitten up for sale for a one day auction for 1 ETH starting price and 0 ETH ending price, and if someone buys it 12 hours after the auctions starts they’d be paying me .5 ETH.

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Kittens can also be created by breeding them, which the game calls Siring. You can put your own kitten up for sire for a specified amount of ether and someone can breed with it, and they get the offspring and you get the ether. Or, you can pay to breed your cat with someone else’s and you keep the offspring and they keep the ether.

It can take anywhere from an hour to a week in “cooldown time” to breed a new kitten. The shorter the time the better, since you can sell the offspring sooner and breed again. This means kittens with shorter cooldown time usually sell for more.

Each kitten has a 256-bit genome that holds the genetic sequence to all the different combinations kittens can have. These include things like background color, cooldown time, whiskers, beards, stripes and so on. Some of these genes can be recessive, meaning a kitten without stripes could still breed one with stripes.

It’s important to note that there’s no “rare scale” established by the game that assigns rarity values to these genetic sequences. That means the community is independently deciding what traits are rare by paying a premium for them. For example, kittens with a gold background have been selling more than kittens with other colors.

Users can only self-customize the name of their kitten, and often use this space to advertise rare attributes like color or generation.

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Right now there’s no way to see the actual genetic sequence for a kitten on CryptoKitties’ site, but since it’s all open-source code within an Ethereum contract it’s only a matter of time before someone figures out how to “read” your cat’s genetic sequence and make breeding recommendations based on it. There’s also some randomness built in, which keeps it fun by giving someone with a less rare kitten the chance to breed a rare one.

Each time a cat breeds the generation increases one. So the offspring of a Gen 0 kitten would be a Gen 1, and so on. Earlier generation kittens seem to be selling for more money, both for the intangible rareness factor and the tangible fact that earlier generation kittens usually have shorter cool down times.

Axiom make money by keeping the ether collected from selling the initial 100 kitties, plus the newly generated kitties sold each 25 minutes. They also take a 3.75% fee of all auctions or siring transactions. If you sell a kitten by interacting directly with the smart contract (and not going through CryptoKitties’ website) you wouldn’t have to pay the 3.75% fee.

What’s Next?
Unlike some viral projects, the team behind CryptoKitties was set on building out this product regardless of this hype. Mack Flavelle, the project lead for the game explained to me that the team has at least a year’s worth of product improvements in the pipeline, the most immediate of which is improving the UI on the web platform.

They also want to work to make the on-boarding process easier, because at the end of the day it’s still not easy for the average person to setup MetaMask and figure out how to buy ether and use it to transact on the network.

The project has a pretty good FAQ here which explains a bit more about the game’s future plans and how it works today.
 
That's what's up. I used to do the Paypal deposits until it became too expensive. I been depositing straight from my USD wallet lately. Bank of America been riding with me but hopefully they don't get too cute.
Free wire with BOA... bitstamp charges about $18 and boa doesn’t charge a fee when receiving
 
he needs to check the activities for his account on NEO’s blockchain explorer

https://neotracker.io/

he can paste his address on the search line and see what happened to the coins...more specifically what address they were sent to...nothing he can really do about it tho...was he using the mobile android wallet...sometimes mine would read ‘0’ initially but the wallet would update in a few seconds...sometimes it was instant other times it took as long as 30 secs...also is the wifi on? might sound silly...but I used a phone w/ no service strictly as a wallet and sometimes I’d forget to turn the wifi on in which case it’d show 0 NEOs in my wallet


Good Lord looks like you are right.

I just checked neotracker.io and his coins are there. May have been one of the problems that you listed when we checked on his phone.

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I’ll probably place a small bet just to support the system. Remember every bet kills some of the tokens therefore increasing scarcity(value). I’m looking into what I need to set-up a masternode. It’s supposed to be similar to setting up master modes for dash. I have zero clue, so I’ll be watch some YouTube vids on that. Devs say it’s first come first served on the 2000 masternodes, so I’m trying to get my equipment ready before the launch.

What are your thoughts on the price it could hit in the next few weeks
 
I’ll probably place a small bet just to support the system. Remember every bet kills some of the tokens therefore increasing scarcity(value). I’m looking into what I need to set-up a masternode. It’s supposed to be similar to setting up master modes for dash. I have zero clue, so I’ll be watch some YouTube vids on that. Devs say it’s first come first served on the 2000 masternodes, so I’m trying to get my equipment ready before the launch.
Are you using the new wagerr wallet?
 
This net neutrality shit really makes me worry about the cryptocurrency market.

I’ve noticed a couple articles where people have picked up on the same thing that I worry about. Right now.. Bitcoin mining takes up a lot of processing power. If net neturality does go... then Theoretically there is nothing to stop an ISP from blocking access to sites or throttling the ability for people to mine. The Uk has already strarted legislation to look into Blocking BitTorrent access.

People do need to be mindful of this.


https://thenextweb.com/insider/2017/11/28/the-death-of-net-neutrality-could-be-the-end-of-bitcoin/

there may be some hope.

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/FCC-Net-Neutrality-Repeal-Faces-One-Hell-of-a-Court-Fight-140800
 
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People have spent over $1M buying virtual cats on the Ethereum blockchain
Posted by Fitz Tepper (@fitztepper)
screen-shot-2017-12-03-at-5-20-32-pm.png


Launched a few days ago, CryptoKitties is essentially like an digital version of Pokemon cards but based on the Ethereum blockchain. And like most viral sensations that catch on in the tech world, it’s blowing up fast.

Built by Vancouver and San Francisco-based design studio AxiomZen, the game is the latest fad in the world of cryptocurrency and probably soon tech in general.

People are spending a crazy amount of real money on the game. So far about $1.3M has been transacted, with multiple kittens selling for ~50 ETH (around $23,000) and the “genesis” kitten being sold for a record ~246 ETH (around $113,000). This third party site tracks the largest purchasesmade to date on the game. And like any good viral sensation prices are rising and fluctuating fast. Right now it will cost you about .03 ETH, or $12 to buy the least expensive kitten in the game.

So now we have people using Ether, an asset with arguably little tangible utility – to purchase an asset with unarguably zero tangible utility. Welcome to the internet in 2017.

In all seriousness, it’s a little bit reminiscent of the beanie baby trend where people were paying insane amounts of money for stuffed animals. But if the popularity continues to increase these people may be able to make a return by reselling or breeding their rare kittens, or they’ll be stuck holding the virtual cryptographic keys to a virtual rare kitten when the market crashes in a few day, like eventually happened with beanie babies.

There are a few cool things about the game though, and putting aside the valuation absurdity it’s actually a cool way for beginners to interact with the Ethereum blockchain.

First off, it’s important to understand that since it’s played on the Ethereum blockchain there’s no central entity managing the game. This means users literally own their kittens. Unlike playing Neopets where everything was stored on a central database and your pet was deleted when the company shut down, CryptoKitties is decentralized and will live forever on the Ethereum blockchain.

The game is run via a set of 5 Ethereum smart contracts written by AxiomZen, and users interact with it via their own Ethereum address. Right now the easiest way to do that is by using the Chrome extension MetaMask which gives you the ability to send and receive Ethereum directly in your browser. You then would navigate to the CryptoKitties site which is essentially an interface to interact with their smart contracts so you can buy sell and breed kittens.

Right now about 15% of all Ethereum network traffic is dedicated to the game, making it the most popular smart contract on the network. For reference, number two with about 8% of network transactions is EtherDelta, the popular decentralized token exchange.

This traffic is making it hard to play CryptoKitties, and a lot of transactions (like buying and selling cats) are taking longer than usual to process and needing multiple attempts.

Due to network congestion, we are increasing the birthing fee from 0.001 ETH to 0.002 ETH. This will ensure your kittens are born on time! The extra is needed to incentivize miners to add birthing txs to the chain. Long-term solution will be explored very soon!

— CryptoKitties (@CryptoKitties) December 3, 2017



Not only is this making it hard to play the game, but this scaling issue is a real concern for the Ethereum network in general. If one viral game that hasn’t even spread beyond the tech world can slow down the network, what happens when the blockchain expands to real world applications?

Anyways, back to the game. Still confused? Us too. Here’s an explanation of how it works:

How to Play
The game was seeded with 100 “Founder Kitties”. There’s also one new “Gen 0” cat released ever 15 minutes, which are listed for the average price of the last five sold, plus 50% – but the sale price declines over 24 hours until someone eventually buys it.


And anyone can sell their kittens via an auction, where they pick a starting price and an ending price and the price declines over time until someone buys it. So for example I could put a kitten up for sale for a one day auction for 1 ETH starting price and 0 ETH ending price, and if someone buys it 12 hours after the auctions starts they’d be paying me .5 ETH.

screen-shot-2017-12-03-at-5-19-45-pm.png


Kittens can also be created by breeding them, which the game calls Siring. You can put your own kitten up for sire for a specified amount of ether and someone can breed with it, and they get the offspring and you get the ether. Or, you can pay to breed your cat with someone else’s and you keep the offspring and they keep the ether.

It can take anywhere from an hour to a week in “cooldown time” to breed a new kitten. The shorter the time the better, since you can sell the offspring sooner and breed again. This means kittens with shorter cooldown time usually sell for more.

Each kitten has a 256-bit genome that holds the genetic sequence to all the different combinations kittens can have. These include things like background color, cooldown time, whiskers, beards, stripes and so on. Some of these genes can be recessive, meaning a kitten without stripes could still breed one with stripes.

It’s important to note that there’s no “rare scale” established by the game that assigns rarity values to these genetic sequences. That means the community is independently deciding what traits are rare by paying a premium for them. For example, kittens with a gold background have been selling more than kittens with other colors.

Users can only self-customize the name of their kitten, and often use this space to advertise rare attributes like color or generation.

screen-shot-2017-12-03-at-6-14-48-pm.png


Right now there’s no way to see the actual genetic sequence for a kitten on CryptoKitties’ site, but since it’s all open-source code within an Ethereum contract it’s only a matter of time before someone figures out how to “read” your cat’s genetic sequence and make breeding recommendations based on it. There’s also some randomness built in, which keeps it fun by giving someone with a less rare kitten the chance to breed a rare one.

Each time a cat breeds the generation increases one. So the offspring of a Gen 0 kitten would be a Gen 1, and so on. Earlier generation kittens seem to be selling for more money, both for the intangible rareness factor and the tangible fact that earlier generation kittens usually have shorter cool down times.

Axiom make money by keeping the ether collected from selling the initial 100 kitties, plus the newly generated kitties sold each 25 minutes. They also take a 3.75% fee of all auctions or siring transactions. If you sell a kitten by interacting directly with the smart contract (and not going through CryptoKitties’ website) you wouldn’t have to pay the 3.75% fee.

What’s Next?
Unlike some viral projects, the team behind CryptoKitties was set on building out this product regardless of this hype. Mack Flavelle, the project lead for the game explained to me that the team has at least a year’s worth of product improvements in the pipeline, the most immediate of which is improving the UI on the web platform.

They also want to work to make the on-boarding process easier, because at the end of the day it’s still not easy for the average person to setup MetaMask and figure out how to buy ether and use it to transact on the network.

The project has a pretty good FAQ here which explains a bit more about the game’s future plans and how it works today.


There’s another game like this... Coindroids. Kats are spending fucking bank on this shit. Waging real money to bet against other people on a video game. Ain’t no way.
 
There’s another game like this... Coindroids. Kats are spending fucking bank on this shit. Waging real money to bet against other people on a video game. Ain’t no way.
I don’t think it feels real for a lot of people who got in the game very very early plus they have never cashed out any money...

August 21st 2015 you could’ve gotten Eth for .43

That’s 2325 tokens for a grand
 
I don’t think it feels real for a lot of people who got in the game very very early plus they have never cashed out any money...

August 21st 2015 you could’ve gotten Eth for .43

That’s 2325 tokens for a grand

See it’s post like these that keep me out of this thread... it hurts my heart.

I am trying to jump on this Iota coin since they started a partnership with Microsoft. It’s like 2 dollars. It was maybe less then .50 a month ago.

But Bitrax kicked me out and I can’t buy it on coinbase. I’m waiting to get in on on another exchange.
 
See it’s post like these that keep me out of this thread... it hurts my heart.

I am trying to jump on this Iota coin since they started a partnership with Microsoft. It’s like 2 dollars. It was maybe less then .50 a month ago.
You can’t worry about that... if you believe in the coin wait for the bullrun to stop and then invest based on dollar cost average
 
Wait they have a new Wallet? My shit is still on the exchange
I found out about it a few days ago when I receive that email.. I left my coins on their site months ago and forgot about it.. I’m holding the rest of my coins on my ledger nano
 
I found out about it a few days ago when I receive that email.. I left my coins on their site months ago and forgot about it.. I’m holding the rest of my coins on my ledger nano

WGR can be held on the nano ? I was thinking about grabbing on off ebay
 
See it’s post like these that keep me out of this thread... it hurts my heart.

I am trying to jump on this Iota coin since they started a partnership with Microsoft. It’s like 2 dollars. It was maybe less then .50 a month ago.

But Bitrax kicked me out and I can’t buy it on coinbase. I’m waiting to get in on on another exchange.

Yea I jumped on IOTA earlier today through Binance when it was at a buck 70. It's now over 2.00 and still going. :yes:
 
Yea I jumped on IOTA earlier today through Binance when it was at a buck 70. It's now over 2.00 and still going. :yes:

Man I’m so fucking pissed off at Bitrax right now... I’m missing out. I knew I should have hopped on at least 4 exhanges.

Now I’m worried about coinbase and these IRS hits on client transactions. I wouldn’t be surprised if they pull out soon.
 
Man I’m so fucking pissed off at Bitrax right now... I’m missing out. I knew I should have hopped on at least 4 exhanges.

Now I’m worried about coinbase and these IRS hits on client transactions. I wouldn’t be surprised if they pull out soon.

We keep telling cats to get on as many platforms as possible. Just like I say never keep all your coins in one wallet.
 
Man I’m so fucking pissed off at Bitrax right now... I’m missing out. I knew I should have hopped on at least 4 exhanges.

Now I’m worried about coinbase and these IRS hits on client transactions. I wouldn’t be surprised if they pull out soon.
I had to go thru coinbase for some Etherium just to send over to Binance to trade for the IOTA. I'm just trying to get what I can, while I still can.
 
Are you using the new wagerr wallet?
Nah, I still have most of mine on the wagerr site. I got about 14k on the waves lite app.

What are your thoughts on the price it could hit in the next few weeks
Conservatively, I'd say it's going to be at .15cents by Jan 15. If Mainnet launch goes smoothly, .20+ shortly after. The real come up will be once it hits a major exchange. The crazy thing is if you think about it, WGR might be the first successfully launched token with a practical everyday use case(if you're a gambler that is). Being the first in this atmosphere means a lot!
 
See it’s post like these that keep me out of this thread... it hurts my heart.

I am trying to jump on this Iota coin since they started a partnership with Microsoft. It’s like 2 dollars. It was maybe less then .50 a month ago.

But Bitrax kicked me out and I can’t buy it on coinbase. I’m waiting to get in on on another exchange.
Yea I got IOTA for .85 last month and it's at 2.41 now. When you have a good gut feeling and good research, don't wait around, just pull the trigger.
 
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