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Having a different actor play the cab driver who made Saul in the mall probably changed things for the writers.
The original dude was more menacing. This guy was lame and gullible. I felt this episode suffered for that reason.

*I just read that the first actor couldn't do it because of a contractual obligation somewhere else. They definitely re-wrote this shit.
 
Dannyblueyes said:
This was one of the greatest episodes yet!

Pacing was flawless and you were left wondering what was going to happen all the way up until the very end.
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Seems to be very mixed reaction to last night's episode. I liked it as well. It was different, I will say that.
I've been intrigued with what happens to "Gene". Being a Nebraska football fan, hearing him talk Nebraska football with the security guard was cool.
Carol Burnett playing the mom during the episode made it even better.
 
XXXplosive said:
Seems to be very mixed reaction to last night's episode. I liked it as well. It was different, I will say that.
I've been intrigued with what happens to "Gene". Being a Nebraska football fan, hearing him talk Nebraska football with the security guard was cool.
Carol Burnett playing the mom during the episode made it even better.
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I got to admit. That con kept me guessing every step of the way. The online predictions were WAY off yet somehow the riders still managed to handle the Jeff situation in a way that was most true for Gene.

The scenes with Carol Burnett were almost creepy. You get the sense that if he had bad intentions Gean could be so dangerous he'd make Lalo look like a teddy bear
 
Episode 8

Just finished episode 8.

Not to happy how Salamanca went out. I knew he would die, was hoping it would be more complicated, suspenseful and unexpected.

Salamanca knew how things were gonna play out and used Saul/Kim as a diversion. Pretty smart.

And how Salamanca and Howard’s bodies were disposed. Absolutely Brilliant. I plan on rewatching “Breaking Bad” in the future and now that Meth Lab takes on a different perspective.

Getting ready to watch episode 9.
 
Episode 9

We got to see how Gus managed to get around Don Eliado fury and made Don Hector look like a fool. Eliado obviously is next to get sacked with Gus wanting revenge for his brother, and Eliado knows it.

We got the explanation on Kim not being in “Breaking Bad”. Not how I expected her to leave. But at least she was honest about it.

And then the show explained the mansion we saw earlier showing the series jump to the “Breaking Bad” timeline.

Getting ready to watch episode 10.
 
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Episode 10

Good episode giving us some insight on “Gene” and what he is about with us knowing it’s Jimmy in the future post “Breaking Bad”.

The highlight of the episode was showing how brilliant Jimmy’s brain operates when working a con. He is a expert playing the long game for a hustle along with having the patience to pull it off.

Carol Burnett had a good cameo. The character she did would have fit perfectly in either series. If there is a follow up series after BB and BCS, hopefully they bring her back.

Three more episodes left. They showed a preview of what looks like the next episode with Gene coming to a crossroads in his current life. Definitely looking forward to these episodes.
 
So all we know for the remainder 3 episodes is Cranston, Paul gonna show up, and Kim wexler rumored to show up in last episode.
 
Just once in my life I want to approach something I'm involved in running with the patience, dedication, forethought and diligence that Jimmy/Saul/Gene uses to plan his chicanery. I mean, I know he's a fictional character, but goddamn this dude takes shit to the maximum level possible when it comes to planning some shit.

The crazy shit is a lot of the planning and setup for that shit was off screen. Like figuring out how to find the cab driver dude, then figuring out how to use his mom, then planning out meeting her on her route. Then having the custom box built. Then figuring out the heist route before teaching it to the taxi driver.

Craziness!!
blackbull1970 said:
Episode 10

Good episode giving us some insight on “Gene” and what he is about with us knowing it’s Jimmy in the future post “Breaking Bad”.

The highlight of the episode was showing how brilliant Jimmy’s brain operates when working a con. He is a expert playing the long game for a hustle along with having the patience to pull it off.

Carol Burnett had a good cameo. The character she did would have fit perfectly in either series. If there is a follow up series after BB and BCS, hopefully they bring her back.

Three more episodes left. They showed a preview of what looks like the next episode with Gene coming to a crossroads in his current life. Definitely looking forward to these episodes.
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Louis Koo said:
So all we know for the remainder 3 episodes is Cranston, Paul gonna show up, and Kim wexler rumored to show up in last episode.
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I’m suspecting Walt and Jesse will show up together in current time showing where they are at. Possibly wanting to get back into the game with Jimmy’s help.

The Netflix special with Jesse is the last we saw of him. It’s possible Walt hunted him down after that movie.

Kim will be shown in current time most likely. Her appearance will be the final confirmation on where she was during “Breaking Bad”. They might do it in a way showing that she was heavily involved with “Breaking Bad” off camera, working with Jimmy behind the scenes and later was in hiding with “Gene”.

She may also have had Jimmy’s kid which may be the reason he went into hiding in Nebraska where Kim is from.

And Walt’s ex-wife Skylar and son Walter Jr. might make a surprise cameo. Skylar was pissed with Walter with how things went, but just like Kim, she got a rush and enjoyed working the criminal element.

Having them all come back working as a team will be pretty interesting if a new series is in the works.
 
blackbull1970 said:
I’m suspecting Walt and Jesse will show up together in current time showing where they are at. Possibly wanting to get back into the game with Jimmy’s help.

The Netflix special with Jesse is the last we saw of him. It’s possible Walt hunted him down after that movie.

Kim will be shown in current time most likely. Her appearance will be the final confirmation on where she was during “Breaking Bad”. They might do it in a way showing that she was heavily involved with “Breaking Bad” off camera, working with Jimmy behind the scenes and later was in hiding with “Gene”.

She may also have had Jimmy’s kid which may be the reason he went into hiding in Nebraska where Kim is from.

And Walt’s ex-wife Skylar and son Walter Jr. might make a surprise cameo. Skylar was pissed with Walter with how things went, but just like Kim, she got a rush and enjoyed working the criminal element.

Having them all come back working as a team will be pretty interesting if a new series is in the works.
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Walter died at the end of Breaking Bad so there's no way that's possible. And there's no way Sylar and Walter Jr. will make any cameos.

With Kim, my guess is they will show her in the present living happily with a family, having moved on from Jimmy.
I still think it's possible something tragic happens to Gene before the show wraps up.
 
XXXplosive said:
Walter died at the end of Breaking Bad so there's no way that's possible. And there's no way Sylar and Walter Jr. will make any cameos.

With Kim, my guess is they will show her in the present living happily with a family, having moved on from Jimmy.
I still think it's possible something tragic happens to Gene before the show wraps up.
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It’s hard to say if Walter Died in that lab.

The same with Gus after the pipe bomb.

Just cuz we saw them laying there, doesn’t mean they are actually dead.

We didn’t see what happened to their bodies like what we saw with Lalo and Howard.

Plenty of ways they can make it that those two survived. This is TV….it ain’t real life.

And with Skylar and Walt Jr, just cuz you didn’t like those characters, doesn’t mean they can’t come back.

Saul Goodman was not a popular character in Breaking Bad and folks thought it was a dumb idea to give him a show….look how it turned out.
 
blackbull1970 said:
It’s hard to say if Walter Died in that lab.

The same with Gus after the pipe bomb.

Just cuz we saw them laying there, doesn’t mean they are actually dead.

We didn’t see what happened to their bodies like what we saw with Lalo and Howard.

Plenty of ways they can make it that those two survived. This is TV….it ain’t real life.

And with Skylar and Walt Jr, just cuz you didn’t like those characters, doesn’t mean they can’t come back.

Saul Goodman was not a popular character in Breaking Bad and folks thought it was a dumb idea to give him a show….look how it turned out.
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I think that's a REACH that somehow both Gus and Walter survived.
I know it's TV, but the good thing about this show and Breaking Bad is that most of the events are plausible and not completely unrealistic.
I never said I didn't like Skylar and Walter Jr. as characters.
If they were making cameos on BCS it would have leaked by now just like it did with Walter and Jessie.
I actually liked Saul's character from Breaking Bad and was excited to see him get his own show.
 
blackbull1970 said:
It’s hard to say if Walter Died in that lab.

The same with Gus after the pipe bomb.

Just cuz we saw them laying there, doesn’t mean they are actually dead.
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dawilleyone said:
Just once in my life I want to approach something I'm involved in running with the patience, dedication, forethought and diligence that Jimmy/Saul/Gene uses to plan his chicanery. I mean, I know he's a fictional character, but goddamn this dude takes shit to the maximum level possible when it comes to planning some shit.

The crazy shit is a lot of the planning and setup for that shit was off screen. Like figuring out how to find the cab driver dude, then figuring out how to use his mom, then planning out meeting her on her route. Then having the custom box built. Then figuring out the heist route before teaching it to the taxi driver.

Craziness!!
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Reading your posts and what others wrote had me rethinking something so I rewatched the episode.

I rewatched cuz I started thinking how odd it was that they spent so much time dealing with Gene going thru the process of the heist from start to finish.

It donned on me that the episode was not about Gene. It was all about Carol Burnett/Marion’s character.

When she was first shown, she was in the grocery store. She was depicted with a fiery attitude and not giving a fuck.

We then see her on the street meeting Gene. There she played the “Sweet Old Lady” routine.

She took Gene back to her house and continued the bit in front of her son.

Later we see her and Gene in her house. Out of the blue she asked about the dog. Gene paused and remembered and gave some lame story on the dog. Marion didn’t respond and moved on.

What it all adds up is Marion was the one running the heist and used Gene.

How you ask?

She stated that her son’s father wasn’t good with teaching her son anything. What she was saying was that her idiot son learned nothing about being a criminal from his father.

Marion’s husband was the brains of the families criminal heists. When he died, Marion had no one to replace him….until her dumbass son came to her prior to the episode and told her about Jimmy/Gene.

There must be a bounty on Jimmy’s head. Her son wanted to turn him in for the bounty, but she stopped him letting him know he is thinking small. He informed her on who Jimmy was.

Not trusting her dumbass son, she needed to find out herself…..enter the scam. She knew the difficulty of pulling a heist like that and if Jimmy could pull it off….he was her guy.

Her son briefed her on how things were going from start to finish during the planning.

Jimmy thinks he is free, not knowing Marion is the mastermind. Marion probably has connections in the underworld and knows who to contact to turn Jimmy in. So she will blackmail him.

Marion has a big heist in mind.

Jimmy is the one that is gonna plan and execute it.

Long story short….Marion is “Ma Barker”.

There are 3 episodes left, plenty of time for them to work that storyline and close everything out.

I looked it up and Carol Burnett is supposed to be in a number of episodes.

We will wait and see…..
 
Louis Koo said:
it's confirmed by writers that White died.
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blackbull1970 said:
The same with Gus after the pipe bomb.
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Didnt Giancarlo himself confirm that Gus died..?
XXXplosive said:
With Kim, my guess is they will show her in the present living happily with a family, having moved on from Jimmy.
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What if in the very last shot Kim is with her family and she hears the doorbell(we dont see her walk to the door)..turns out it's Jimmy..

..or if one of her kids answers but they dont show who it is until the last shot..

Jimmy:"Hi..is your mother home..?"

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blackbull1970 said:
Reading your posts and what others wrote had me rethinking something so I rewatched the episode.

I rewatched cuz I started thinking how odd it was that they spent so much time dealing with Gene going thru the process of the heist from start to finish.

It donned on me that the episode was not about Gene. It was all about Carol Burnett/Marion’s character.

When she was first shown, she was in the grocery store. She was depicted with a fiery attitude and not giving a fuck.

We then see her on the street meeting Gene. There she played the “Sweet Old Lady” routine.

She took Gene back to her house and continued the bit in front of her son.

Later we see her and Gene in her house. Out of the blue she asked about the dog. Gene paused and remembered and gave some lame story on the dog. Marion didn’t respond and moved on.

What it all adds up is Marion was the one running the heist and used Gene.

How you ask?

She stated that her son’s father wasn’t good with teaching her son anything. What she was saying was that her idiot son learned nothing about being a criminal from his father.

Marion’s husband was the brains of the families criminal heists. When he died, Marion had no one to replace him….until her dumbass son came to her prior to the episode and told her about Jimmy/Gene.

There must be a bounty on Jimmy’s head. Her son wanted to turn him in for the bounty, but she stopped him letting him know he is thinking small. He informed her on who Jimmy was.

Not trusting her dumbass son, she needed to find out herself…..enter the scam. She knew the difficulty of pulling a heist like that and if Jimmy could pull it off….he was her guy.

Her son briefed her on how things were going from start to finish during the planning.

Jimmy thinks he is free, not knowing Marion is the mastermind. Marion probably has connections in the underworld and knows who to contact to turn Jimmy in. So she will blackmail him.

Marion has a big heist in mind.

Jimmy is the one that is gonna plan and execute it.

Long story short….Marion is “Ma Barker”.

There are 3 episodes left, plenty of time for them to work that storyline and close everything out.

I looked it up and Carol Burnett is supposed to be in a number of episodes.

We will wait and see…..
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it's Kim mom and the loser brother she never spoke about. Kim changed her name.

Nippy was a code word. She responded accordingly while keeping the act to stay in their assumed identities.

that's how he knew exactly what to say to reel him in. He has some of the same traits as his sister.
 
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Vince Gilligan drops a huge hint about when Walt and Jesse will appear in 'Better Call Saul'

'Better Call Saul' co-creator Vince Gilligan reveals which episode reintroduces Bryan Cranston's Walt and Aaron Paul's Jesse.
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Vince Gilligan drops a huge hint about when Walt and Jesse will appear in Better Call Saul
Breaking Bad's meth-making duo are finally ready to Call Saul.
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Fact: Before the beginning of season 6, Better Call Saul co-creator Peter Gould announced that, yes, Walt and Jesse would indeed appear in the final season.
Fact: They haven't popped up yet — and only three episodes remain.
Fact: Monday's episode of Better Call Saul is titled "Breaking Bad."
You can draw your conclusions — and at your own risk. Or you can take this latest cue from Breaking Bad creator/Saul co-creator Vince Gilligan. Speaking at a ceremony on Friday for the unveiling of the Walt and Jesse statues at the Albuquerque Convention Center — and standing next to Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul — Gilligan made a surprise announcement, essentially confirming which episode will reintroduce them. "Spoiler alert, everybody. You're hearing it first; no one else knows this yet. This coming Monday night, if you happen to be watching the AMC network — and thanks to them as well — you might just see these two on the next Better Call Saul."

Paul quickly joked, "Maybe. Maybe."
While it may have been inevitable that the meth-making duo would show up on the acclaimed Breaking Bad prequel, Gould feels that the writers are here to subvert expectations about the type of guest spot. "I've heard a lot of theories about what's going to happen," he told EW, "and I'm happy to report I haven't heard a theory that comes quite close to the actual fact."
He also feels that their patience — and yours — will be rewarded. "The thing that I'm really proud of is that we waited to see them until it was right for this story," noted Gould. "Of course, the low-hanging fruit would've been to have them appear early in season 1, to kick the show off. I think the way that they do appear is all about the story of Jimmy McGill and Kim Wexler [Rhea Seehorn] and Mike Ehrmantraut [Jonathan Banks]. I hope you agree when you see it."

Bryan Cranston and Aaron Paul in 'Breaking Bad'

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Cranston's and Paul's scenes were filmed in secrecy, though the producers later decided to tease their appearance. "It's so funny because this was supposed to be a big surprise, a big secret," Paul recently said. "Then all of a sudden they announced that we were doing it, so why did they keep us in a prison? Seriously, they were just messing with us."
Appearing on SMX's Basic! podcast, Cranston noted that there were actually three scenes involving the duo — a joint one, and then each had one without the other. "There's three scenes to come. It's pretty cool," he says. "But to be honest with you — because we shot everything in a bubble and completely out of sequence — I don't even know what episodes we're in. You're going to find out."
Monday night, it seems. But this Friday afternoon, it was a love-in between Gilligan, his stars, and the city of Albuquerque, where both Breaking Bad, El Camino, and Better Call Saul were filmed. Gilligan explained how he was looking for a way to thank the ABQ for playing host to a decade and a half of his productions. And after seeing a miniature Walt made out of wax by sculptor/Breaking Bad fan Trevor Grove, the creator had an idea. "It was so amazing that it just got me to thinking: What if Trevor could sculpt a life-sized version of Walter White in bronze, a medium new to him, and what if he could toss in Jesse Pinkman to boot, and then we donate to the two statues to the city of Albuquerque as a thank-you for your hospitality?" he said.
 
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This suggests that the cops have no idea that Gene is Saul Goodman. If they did they would have sent more than one car. Probably have the feds with them too.

Either that or their appearance has nothing to do with him.

One thing I'll never understand is why he didn't just leave the country. Disguise himself as an old man with a flower shirt and fisherman's hat, go on a cruise ship, disembark for a 1 hour incursion and never come back
 
lazarus said:
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it's Kim mom and the loser brother she never spoke about. Kim changed her name.

Nippy was a code word. She responded accordingly while keeping the act to stay in their assumed identities.

that's how he knew exactly what to say to reel him in. He has some of the same traits as his sister.
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Looks to be playing out differently with what happened in the last episode.

There has to be something about her for the show to have her in it. You don’t put a legendary actress like Carol Burnett into a series like this just to be a “Sweet Old Lady”.

Marion saw them go into the garage, that’s the last we saw of her so far. We definitely will find out her story real soon.

Real curious to see what happens after Jimmy goes into that house. And with the small preview they showed, I don’t think the cops were arriving for the burglary. Last week showed Jimmy driving down that road looking like he was at a “crossroads” in his life. Turned out to be a completely different scenario.

And with that, Jimmy on the phone with Franseca was interesting. It looks like the Feds are the ones after Jimmy.

And we got confirmation that Kim is still alive doing whatever. That sets her up for whatever series they have planned after this series.

If Jimmy gets killed in the finale, hopefully its something surprising and unpredictable and not a big disappointment.
 
Dannyblueyes said:
This suggests that the cops have no idea that Gene is Saul Goodman. If they did they would have sent more than one car. Probably have the feds with them too.

Either that or their appearance has nothing to do with him.

One thing I'll never understand is why he didn't just leave the country. Disguise himself as an old man with a flower shirt and fisherman's hat, go on a cruise ship, disembark for a 1 hour incursion and never come back
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Yeah, I'm shocked too he didn't leave the country entirely and instead chose to live openly (under a new identity albeit) just a few states away from NM.
 

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