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So says the man that went to trial for murder. All that God talk is bullshit. Sharpe likes basic white pussy far too much, it all that other shit Ray is talking about is realistically hypocritical.

He also should NOT have said that shit about Sharpe's family.

I stopped fuckimg Sharpe over the colorism and inconsistent personal choices, but I am just a fan and a consumer, but Ray was his homeboy.

That's some wicked shit in my opinion. I bet Sharpe was there for Ray when he went through the sad situation with his son and the courts. Now Ray is like fuck off :smh:
I'm sure Shannon will respond or have him on Club Shay Shay to talk it out. I didn't really see Shannon drink until he started promoting Shay by LePoitier
 
I love Cam, but his NFL career what a rocket to nowhere. I think I would take the career of Terry Bradshaw over Newton. That's where Hurts is probably going to end up most mirroring. 2-3 championship on a stacked team. If Hurts did not throw that pick he probably would have beat the Chiefs in his first SB, considering he was basically perfect in that game.
If Cam was on Philly he would’ve had a ring. Gift and the curse of being good enough to be the 1st overall pick. Means you go to the worst team.
 
Stupid comparison. Micah has played 5 seasons (he is 26). Van Noy has played 10 seasons (he is 34). Micah has 52 sacks, Van not 55.
I think the main point is to show you can get his sack production at a fraction of the price.

But I won’t do Micah like that. You have to account for the times he has to get double and tripled team as well and his amount of pressures.

Pretty sure he leads the league in pressures in most seasons.
 
I love Cam, but his NFL career what a rocket to nowhere. I think I would take the career of Terry Bradshaw over Newton. That's where Hurts is probably going to end up most mirroring. 2-3 championship on a stacked team. If Hurts did not throw that pick he probably would have beat the Chiefs in his first SB, considering he was basically perfect in that game.
But put cam on that cowgirls team, he'll win a superbowl....:rolleyes2:
 
Anybody would take hurts over cam, I don't see how cam beats the chiefs and not any QB can just play on the eagles to think they would win or beat KC.

Hurts is definitely on the same level as cam and will be better than him once it's all said and done.
 
Also, tell me which QB just stands there scared or move away from diving on the ball.

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Anybody would take hurts over cam, I don't see how cam beats the chiefs and not any QB can just play on the eagles to think they would win or beat KC.

Hurts is definitely on the same level as cam and will be better than him once it's all said and done.
I know you have an Eagles bias, but Cam NEVER had the team that Jalen Hurts has had on offense. The Eagles set him up to be successful as any good organization should do, but Cam's career is over and Hurts is just getting into his Prime. Because of all the talent around him, it's going to be very difficult for Hurts to win a Reg season MVP, but he will be in contention for a SB and at the end of the day, thats all that matters. He's said himself he doesn't care about individual accolades and thats great.

I dont think he's better than Cam, just yet.
 
I know you have an Eagles bias, but Cam NEVER had the team that Jalen Hurts has had on offense. The Eagles set him up to be successful as any good organization should do, but Cam's career is over and Hurts is just getting into his Prime. Because of all the talent around him, it's going to be very difficult for Hurts to win a Reg season MVP, but he will be in contention for a SB and at the end of the day, thats all that matters. He's said himself he doesn't care about individual accolades and thats great.

I dont think he's better than Cam, just yet.
I did say that he will be when it's all said and done. I never said he is right now since his career is still on the upswing with him having more years left to play.

But here's the thing, there's teams that have great players on their team but by no means should a player be discredited for how good the team was built to say he's not better or good that any player can come to that team being successful is B.S.

The majority of people on this thread are bias when it comes to their favorite team.

What I don't like is the fact cam mentioned nick foles with hurts saying hurts has a lot to prove when in reality hurts have proven a lot in this league no matter how people like CAM continue to doubt him.

Also, this is the reason why you will get better opinions from guys who won the superbowl compared to guys who didn't that would rank hurts properly and give him his respect that he deserves.
 
I know you have an Eagles bias, but Cam NEVER had the team that Jalen Hurts has had on offense. The Eagles set him up to be successful as any good organization should do, but Cam's career is over and Hurts is just getting into his Prime. Because of all the talent around him, it's going to be very difficult for Hurts to win a Reg season MVP, but he will be in contention for a SB and at the end of the day, thats all that matters. He's said himself he doesn't care about individual accolades and thats great.

I dont think he's better than Cam, just yet.
I agree. My thing on Cam is I don’t like how we revise history. Cam at his peak was one of them ones. He was literally carrying a whole football team. One person. Not a 12 man basketball team…a team with 53 players on it. To a Super Bowl.

His peak or prime wasn’t long. But he went to a bad team that was so bad it still hasn’t recovered.

Hurts will have a longer career and the luxury if having a good and proactive GM. Cam didn’t get that luxury. So when comparing team accolades and accomplishments to Cam? It’s silly.
 
I know you have an Eagles bias, but Cam NEVER had the team that Jalen Hurts has had on offense. The Eagles set him up to be successful as any good organization should do, but Cam's career is over and Hurts is just getting into his Prime. Because of all the talent around him, it's going to be very difficult for Hurts to win a Reg season MVP, but he will be in contention for a SB and at the end of the day, thats all that matters. He's said himself he doesn't care about individual accolades and thats great.

I dont think he's better than Cam, just yet.
I mean he had Luke, Greg and Steve; it's not like he had scrubs.

I think cam is mad overrated, I'd take Hurts over him. I mean if we're being honest when cam played, he was protected in a sense, the black community back them was more on code and always defended black qbs.

We got to keep it 100.
 
I mean he had Luke, Greg and Steve; it's not like he had scrubs.

I think cam is mad overrated, I'd take Hurts over him. I mean if we're being honest when cam played, he was protected in a sense, the black community back them was more on code and always defended black qbs.

We got to keep it 100.
That SB run he didnt have Steve. He got Steve at the end of Steve career. That SB run Cam best receiver was a tight end and Ted Ginn. Nasty work.
 
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I agree. My thing on Cam is I don’t like how we revise history. Cam at his peak was one of them ones. He was literally carrying a whole football team. One person. Not a 12 man basketball team…a team with 53 players on it. To a Super Bowl.

His peak or prime wasn’t long. But he went to a bad team that was so bad it still hasn’t recovered.

Hurts will have a longer career and the luxury if having a good and proactive GM. Cam didn’t get that luxury. So when comparing team accolades and accomplishments to Cam? It’s silly.
Cam also made it "legal" to cheap shot qb's like him. The refs were like "He's bigger than other quarterbacks.", kinda like the shit they did with Shaq. Cam rarely got roughing calls.
 
Cam also made it "legal" to cheap shot qb's like him. The refs were like "He's bigger than other quarterbacks.", kinda like the shit they did with Shaq. Cam rarely got roughing calls.
Yeah they was doing some weird shit where they bigger and blacker you are the more contact they let you get. Meanwhile they wouldn’t even let you play touch football on Brady. I forgot all about that until you mentioned.
 

Micah Parsons' dynamic with the Cowboys proves the Eagles were wise not to make an offer​


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It seemed impossible that there was any scenario that could end with the Philadelphia Eagles acquiring Micah Parsons. It didn't seem to make business sense. There are so many young stars in-house that Howie Roseman and company must think about.

Jalen Carter, Reed Blankenship, Jordan Davis, and Nolan Smith's numbers are all coming up. They will have to get paid soon. Adding and extending Parsons seems like it would have complicated that.

Still, that didn't stop some from entertaining the fantasy. Besides, we've all seen Howie Roseman do more in terms of roster additions when he had much less to work with. In the end, it wasn't meant to be. By now, you've all heard the news and have read a few hundred fallout pieces from the most significant NFL trade we have seen in a while.

Parsons lands with the Green Bay Packers. In his place, the Dallas Cowboys add a run-stopper, defensive tackle Kenny Clark. Green Bay sent a couple of first-round picks to Dallas to help sweeten the deal.

Just like that, an Eagles fantasy died, for some, but what if those of you who are in mourning were told Philadelphia may have dodged a bullet? Albert Breer recently offered a deeper dive into the trade, and it appears that Parsons' relationship with the Cowboys leadership wasn't the only one that was fractured.

This may help some Eagles fans move on more quickly from an unrealistic fantasy.​

According to Breer's report, some of Parsons' former teammates viewed their All-Pro pass rusher as "egotistical and self-centered". There are also claims that he was sometimes "playing out of structure in an effort to make big plays" and that those decisions he made on his own led to some issues with defending the run.

Many compared the sometimes lengthy and stalled negotiations Parsons saw to those with Dak Prescott and CeeDee Lamb. The response to that paints a different picture, as Parsons may not have commanded the same respect in the locker room.

"Martin, Lamb, and Prescott are/were very popular in the locker room. That's not the case with Parsons, who has rankled teammates in different ways. (He's) seen by some as egotistical and self-centered. His podcast has created issues, too, that go all the way up to quarterback Dak Prescott."
So, here's where we are. Parsons leaves the NFC East, but Dallas traded him to another team in the same conference. He got paid, and even though it was unrealistic that he'd land in Philadelphia, some held onto hope. Finally, those dreams can be put to bed forever.

Parsons meets the Eagles on the field in Week 10 on November 10. He faces the Cowboys even earlier, Week 4. Those games certainly got more interesting, didn't they? First things first, though. The Eagles must conquer the Parsons-less Cowboys in Week 1 during the regular-season opener.

 

Roob's Eagles Observations: Why A.J. Brown will be a Hall of Famer one day​

One more set of offseason observations before the Eagles host the Cowboys this Thursday.​


Understanding just how historically productive A.J. Brown has been, a look at why the Eagles are so good at developing young players and the dwindling list of players remaining in the NFL from the 2017 Super Bowl championship team.

Welcome to our final offseason edition of Roob's 10 Random Eagles Observations.

We'll be back after the Eagles beat the Cowboys.

1. He missed most of training camp with that hamstring injury, so we didn’t really talk much about A.J. Brown this summer. But with opening day four days away, this is a good time to take a look at just how legendary this dude is. Because the numbers are mind-blowing. Brown has 7,026 career receiving yards in 90 career games, and that’s 78.1 yards per game. In his three years with the Eagles, though, he’s averaged 85.8 yards per game. If he maintains that 85.8 average through the first 10 games of this season, he’ll have 7,884 yards after his 100th career game. That would be the 10th-most yards in NFL history by a receiver through 100 games behind – check out these names – former teammate Julio Jones, Calvin Johnson, Randy Moss, Torry Holt, Jerry Rice, Antonio Brown, A.J. Green, Marvin Harrison and Isaac Bruce. Brown is already eighth in Eagles history with 4,031 yards in just three years and if he stays healthy he’ll pass Dallas Goedert (4,085), Harold Carmichael (4,579), Fred Barnett (4,634), Jeremy Maclin (4,771) and most likely Zach Ertz (5,354) this year. Only Mike Quick (6,439) and DeSean Jackson (6,117) are out of reach in 2025, although at his current pace of 85.8 yards per game Brown would be the all-time Eagles leading receiver in Week 11 of the 2007 season. Or 4 ½ years into his Eagles career. That’s insane. Brown is one of only three players in NFL history to average 15.5 yards per catch and 75 yards per game, along with Hall of Famers Calvin Johnson and Lance Alworth. And finally, his 10.1 career yards per target is 3rd-highest since 1978, which is as far back as Stathead tracks yards per target. He trails only Pennsauken’s John Taylor (10.4) and Justin Jefferson (10.2). There are a few potential Hall of Famers on this roster, led by Lane Johnson. If he keeps playing the way he has, Brown is definitely headed to Canton.


 

Eagles Aren't Shying Away From Jalen Carter's Upside​

Micah Parsons' new contract in Green Bay won't result in sticker shock from the Eagles.

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Jul 23, 2025; Philadelphia, PA, USA; Philadelphia Eagles defensive tackle Jalen Carter (98) enters the field during training camp at NovaCare Complex. / Kyle Ross-Imagn Images

PHILADELPHIA − While most focus on one-liners to lob at Jerry Jones and his strange stewardship of the Dallas Cowboys, the Eagles have their eyes on the contract superstar edge rusher Micah Parsons received from Green Bay in the aftermath of the blockbuster trade that sent the Penn State product to Lambeau Field.

Parsons signed a four-year deal worth as much as $188 million, making him the highest-paid non-quarterback in NFL history, with an average annual value of $47 million.

There is some fluff to the first reported numbers, as there always is in the NFL, but any way you slice it, Parsons took things to another level by comfortably beating the previous standard of a $41M AAV signed by Pittsburgh edge rusher TJ Watt a month ago.

You might ask how all of that affects the Eagles, past the obvious elevation of the Packers to legitimate Super Bowl contenders in the NFC. The answer to that is emerging superstar Jalen Carter, who is set to enter his third NFL season on Thursday night against the Cowboys.

If everything goes to plan for the Eagles and Carter ascends even further from the second-team All-Pro status he earned last year, things are going to get every expensive.

Add on a significant run at a second consecutive Lombardi Trophy, and the Georgia product entering the NFL Defensive Player of the Year conversation, and it's not inconceivable that Carter's agent, Drew Rosenhaus, will try to push his client past Parsons when extension talks are permitted after this season.

That's how contracts in the NFL work.

The Eagles, of course, are already preparing for that possibility. and there is no sticker shock at the NovaCare Complex.

That's what this "maintenance offseason" was about, a long-term look, understanding what's coming with Carter and potentially Nolan Smith next offseason, plus Quinyon Mitchell and Cooper DeJean after the 2026 campaign.

"We have a sense in the short term," Eagles assistant general manager Alec Halaby said when asked how a second contract for Carter might look. "... But also, our job is to have a sense of what the long-term outcomes might look like, and what the landscape looks like − not just in March of 2025, but in September of 2026 and ’27 and beyond that. That’s something we do think a lot about, that sort of multiyear planning aspect.

"And following the markets and understanding what the landscape is."

The landscape already changed with Parsons' new deal with the idea of a rising tide lifting all boats.

Even if Carter doesn't reach a Parsons level because the top edge rushers in the NFL still tend to get more than their interior counterparts, Parsons' new deal with elevate all the top defensive front players to a certain extent.

At 24, Carter is already one of the more dominant defenders in the league and he's just touched the surface of what he can be a s a player.

"The good news about Jalen is two-fold," defensive coordinator Vic Fangio said earlier this year. "One, he played very well for us last year, and two, he can still improve a lot."

The Eagles, meanwhile, are not shying away from what they want Carter to become, even if they're aware of the price tag that will accompany that outcome.

"Jalen’s shown how dominating he can be as a player," GM Howie Roseman said. "When you have that guy and when offensive linemen are sliding to that guy, it creates opportunities for the guys playing next to him. You have to account for him. If you're going to block him one-on-one, he's got a great chance to win those matchups.

"I mean, he's that kind of player, and he's a special player."
 

Full details of Eagles' DeVonta Smith-Micah Parsons trade points to Philly win​

Who knew the Eagles would come up winners?

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Philadelphia Eagles fans might remember back in the 2021 NFL Draft, Howie Roseman made a wild trade with the Dallas Cowboys that had everyone trying to figure out why he did that. The move will be dissected more than ever after the Cowboys' actions are revealed.

In the 2021 NFL Draft, the Eagles traded the 12th and 84th overall picks to the Dallas Cowboys. The Cowboys sent the Eagles the 10th overall pick in the draft. What did both teams end up doing with those picks?

The Eagles selected Alabama wide receiver DeVonta Smith with their pick that year. Dallas got Penn State edge rusher Micah Parsons with the 12th overall pick and Iowa defensive end Chauncey Golston with the 84th overall pick.

At the time, it was a crazy move as the Cowboys helped their division rival move up two spots while the Eagles helped Dallas pick up an extra pick. Who came out the big winners of the trade, though?

Examining each draft selection from Eagles-Cowboys 2021 NFL Draft day trade​

From the Cowboys' perspective, they got one of the premier pass rushers in the NFL with Parsons. He racked up at least 12 sacks in each of his first four years in the league with three All-Pro and four Pro Bowl selections.

As for Golston, it hasn't been all that bad as he started with just 3.5 sacks in his first three seasons combined. Last year was a breakout season for him as he finished with career-highs in tackles (56), quarterback hits (eight), and sacks (5.5).

The problem is that neither of the two is currently on the roster. Golston signed with the New York Giants on a three-year deal in the offseason, and Parsons was traded to the Green Bay Packers a week before the season began.

Now shifting the attention to the Eagles, Smith hasn't been a Pro Bowler, but he has been solid throughout his career. Two of his four seasons have seen him catch for over 1,000 yards, and his career low was 833 yards last year. Smith has added 27 touchdowns in his career. He's become a solid number two option in the passing game, alongside A.J. Brown, as the two have formed the best wide receiver tandem in the NFL.

The good news for Philly is that they still have Smith. In fact, he signed a contract extension with the Eagles to keep him in Philadelphia through the 2028 season, so he's going nowhere.

One note to make as well before making the final verdict: The Eagles have been to two Super Bowls, winning one of them with Smith being a massive contributor. Parsons and Golston have not even been to the NFC Championship game.

Read more: Cowboys try to pull fast one on Eagles after Micah Parsons trade (but will fail)

Dallas had the advantage in the trade for years until they decided to mortgage their future away to the Packers. Now, the winner of the trade is clear: the Eagles still have Smith and he could be on his way to helping them win another Super Bowl.

 

Full details of Eagles' DeVonta Smith-Micah Parsons trade points to Philly win​

Who knew the Eagles would come up winners?

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Philadelphia Eagles fans might remember back in the 2021 NFL Draft, Howie Roseman made a wild trade with the Dallas Cowboys that had everyone trying to figure out why he did that. The move will be dissected more than ever after the Cowboys' actions are revealed.

In the 2021 NFL Draft, the Eagles traded the 12th and 84th overall picks to the Dallas Cowboys. The Cowboys sent the Eagles the 10th overall pick in the draft. What did both teams end up doing with those picks?

The Eagles selected Alabama wide receiver DeVonta Smith with their pick that year. Dallas got Penn State edge rusher Micah Parsons with the 12th overall pick and Iowa defensive end Chauncey Golston with the 84th overall pick.

At the time, it was a crazy move as the Cowboys helped their division rival move up two spots while the Eagles helped Dallas pick up an extra pick. Who came out the big winners of the trade, though?

Examining each draft selection from Eagles-Cowboys 2021 NFL Draft day trade​

From the Cowboys' perspective, they got one of the premier pass rushers in the NFL with Parsons. He racked up at least 12 sacks in each of his first four years in the league with three All-Pro and four Pro Bowl selections.

As for Golston, it hasn't been all that bad as he started with just 3.5 sacks in his first three seasons combined. Last year was a breakout season for him as he finished with career-highs in tackles (56), quarterback hits (eight), and sacks (5.5).

The problem is that neither of the two is currently on the roster. Golston signed with the New York Giants on a three-year deal in the offseason, and Parsons was traded to the Green Bay Packers a week before the season began.

Now shifting the attention to the Eagles, Smith hasn't been a Pro Bowler, but he has been solid throughout his career. Two of his four seasons have seen him catch for over 1,000 yards, and his career low was 833 yards last year. Smith has added 27 touchdowns in his career. He's become a solid number two option in the passing game, alongside A.J. Brown, as the two have formed the best wide receiver tandem in the NFL.

The good news for Philly is that they still have Smith. In fact, he signed a contract extension with the Eagles to keep him in Philadelphia through the 2028 season, so he's going nowhere.

One note to make as well before making the final verdict: The Eagles have been to two Super Bowls, winning one of them with Smith being a massive contributor. Parsons and Golston have not even been to the NFC Championship game.

Read more: Cowboys try to pull fast one on Eagles after Micah Parsons trade (but will fail)

Dallas had the advantage in the trade for years until they decided to mortgage their future away to the Packers. Now, the winner of the trade is clear: the Eagles still have Smith and he could be on his way to helping them win another Super Bowl.

Terrible reporting….this is why people say journalism is dead lol….they using the Cowboys to generate clicks. Nobody in their right mind thinks trading Micah for Devonta is a “winner”. :lol:
 
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