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Have you ever seen aikman stats? He’s the only qb in his era that didn’t have more than 1 20+ td season or have 200+ tds for his career.. 9 out of 12 seasons with double digit ints.. his first and last yr he had less than 10 tds but had double digit in ints… young, elway, Favre, Marino, Montana, Warner, etc have multiple 20+ tds and 200+ td passes… only reason why people think he great cause he was on a team with emmit smith, Jimmy Johnson, Deion sanders, offensive line, etc


Aikman was in a first run off ended are we really going to go there. Even,then when Aikman played he was considered a top five in his position universally...That's a fact


I never heard one person say Eli was a top five or ten quarterback at his position,for most of his career. Hell,most people say it was the Giants defense that won those two Superbowls. To act like Eli was this great quarterback is not true

Next you're going to tell me that Vinny Testavarde should be in the Hall of Fame because he has more pass yards than Drew Brees.....
 
Aikman was in a first run off ended are we really going to go there. Even,then when Aikman played he was considered a top five in his position universally...That's a fact


I never heard one person say Eli was a top five or ten quarterback at his position,for most of his career. Hell,most people say it was the Giants defense that won those two Superbowls. To act like Eli was this great quarterback is not true

Next you're going to tell me that Vinny Testavarde should be in the Hall of Fame because he has more pass yards than Drew Brees.....
I been saying the same shit but shit hopefully it makes more sense coming from you….didnt get it when I said it.
 
Aikman was in a first run off ended are we really going to go there. Even,then when Aikman played he was considered a top five in his position universally...That's a fact


I never heard one person say Eli was a top five or ten quarterback at his position,for most of his career. Hell,most people say it was the Giants defense that won those two Superbowls. To act like Eli was this great quarterback is not true

Next you're going to tell me that Vinny Testavarde should be in the Hall of Fame because he has more pass yards than Drew Brees.....
Did they consider him top 5 cause he was on a winning team or cause he had the top 5 in stats cause I definitely can say it was all about his winning team and not his stats… Montana , young, Marino, elway, moon, Favre, etc had better stats than him pretty much every yr

His best yr he has 23 td( only yr he had over 20 tds) and 14 ints.. is this top 5 status?
 
I been saying the same shit but shit hopefully it makes more sense coming from you….didnt get it when I said it.
Don’t ya complain about how the media overhype white athletes when they are mediocre or not as great in the current game? Aikman was these nigs origin stores of overhyped white boys
 
Don’t ya complain about how the media overhype white athletes when they are mediocre or not as great in the current game? Aikman was these nigs origin stores of overhyped white boys
I didn't Brett Favre changed his name Troy Aikman...that parkinson's must REALLY be getting to him
 
Don’t ya complain about how the media overhype white athletes when they are mediocre or not as great in the current game? Aikman was these nigs origin stores of overhyped white boys
I’ve never heard anyone say that about him. I’ve heard it about Favre, Namath and Bradshaw. Never heard someone say he was mediocre. Even Philly fans have never said that so I don’t know you might be alone there.
 
Aikman was in a first run off ended are we really going to go there. Even,then when Aikman played he was considered a top five in his position universally...That's a fact


I never heard one person say Eli was a top five or ten quarterback at his position,for most of his career. Hell,most people say it was the Giants defense that won those two Superbowls. To act like Eli was this great quarterback is not true

Next you're going to tell me that Vinny Testavarde should be in the Hall of Fame because he has more pass yards than Drew Brees.....
Terrel Davis had 1100 yds, 1500 yds, 1700 yds, and 2000 yds in consecutive seasons and yet Elayne threw for 20+ tds in every one of those seasons.. Barry sanders qb even had 32 TD passes one season and we know he was everything… Kurt Warner threw for 41 TD passes with Faulk as his running back in 99.. I can go on with qbs, qbs and running backs
 
I mean that what seals the deal for eli getting that gold jacket regardless of how he was ranked.

Maybe cam should've won a SB and he too would've been in that discussion.

That's why I say SB's matter no matter how a player is ranked to get elected into the HOF.


The Hall of Fame is suppose to be for elite players not for medicore player. Why not just put Vinny Testavarde,Steve DeBerg,Drew Bledsoe and etc in the Hall of Fame too because they were better than Eli in their careers.

I agree,the Superbowl shouldn't be the only criteria but can we at least have some consistency though.

One minute folks want to hold someone out because of not having Superbowl ring despite having a great resume while others just ignore a players entire career but since he got a ring he should be in.


I can make an argument that McNabb should be in the Hall of Fame before Eli. At least,he was a top ten quarterback for most of his career and went to four NFC title game and a Superbowl appearance.

It's the same argument with Edelman,he won Superbowls but nobody never considered him a top ten receiver at his position.
 
I’ve never heard anyone say that about him. I’ve heard it about Namath and Bradshaw. Never heard someone say he was mediocre. Even Philly fans have never said that so I don’t know you might be alone there.
He was on a winning team … people talked more about emmit, the offensive line, Irvin, Jimmy Johnson more than aikman.. aikman was never the first to be talked about as far as dangerous when it came to cowboys.. it was always that fucking emmit, that damn line, damn Jimmy Johnson, etc aikman wasn’t hardly mentioned
 
The Hall of Fame is suppose to be for elite players not for medicore player. Why not just put Vinny Testavarde,Steve DeBerg,Drew Bledsoe and etc in the Hall of Fame too because they were better than Eli in their careers.

I agree,the Superbowl shouldn't be the only criteria but can we at least have some consistency though.

One minute folks want to hold someone out because of not having Superbowl ring despite having a great resume while others just ignore a players entire career but since he got a ring he should be in.


I can make an argument that McNabb should be in the Hall of Fame before Eli. At least,he was a top ten quarterback for most of his career and went to four NFC title game and a Superbowl appearance.

It's the same argument with Edelman,he won Superbowls but nobody never considered him a top ten receiver at his position.
So how is aikman in there when was he elite.. he had 9 double digit int yrs… 2 of the superbowl yrs his stats were 15 td and 6 ints, the other was 16 td and 7 int is this elite?

165 td and 144 ints are these elite numbers

So cause his team ran first did that make his ints go up?
 
The Hall of Fame is suppose to be for elite players not for medicore player. Why not just put Vinny Testavarde,Steve DeBerg,Drew Bledsoe and etc in the Hall of Fame too because they were better than Eli in their careers.

I agree,the Superbowl shouldn't be the only criteria but can we at least have some consistency though.

One minute folks want to hold someone out because of not having Superbowl ring despite having a great resume while others just ignore a players entire career but since he got a ring he should be in.


I can make an argument that McNabb should be in the Hall of Fame before Eli. At least,he was a top ten quarterback for most of his career and went to four NFC title game and a Superbowl appearance.

It's the same argument with Edelman,he won Superbowls but nobody never considered him a top ten receiver at his position.
Edelman couldn't make a Pro Bowl. The fact that he's even brought up is ridiculous. I don't see Wes Welker getting into the Hall of Fame and his career was way better than Edelman's outside of Super Bowl wins
 
So how is aikman in there when was he elite.. he had 9 double digit int yrs… 2 of the superbowl yrs his stats were 15 td and 6 ints, the other was 16 td and 7 int is this elite?

165 td and 144 ints are these elite numbers

So cause his team ran first did that make his ints go up?
he won three super bowls. if the 2000 ravens won three sbs in 4 years, trent dilfer would be in as well..
 
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