~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder(Heat 3-1)~-~-~-~

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Okay i usually pick em right. Miami in 5.

Yea OKC have have three of the same position players. Durant, Westbrook and James Harden. You can make that same case for Wade and Lebron except Lebron can play all 5 positions. Also Wade, Lebron and Bosh can all post up and finish inside rather than post up and take a turn around fadeaway. OKC only have jump shooters.

No one on that team can post up. Not Durant, not Ibaka or Perkins. Look at the history. No TEAM has EVER. EVER EVER EVER EVER WON A CHAMPIONSHIP WITHOUT A POST UP GAME. INSIDE AND OUT. The closest team was last years Dallas team. Even they went inside to the German. But you non basketball playing niggas wouldn't know this.

cmon fam
harden/westbrook/ibaka/durant all finish at the rim

see this is what im talking about

miami in 5? :smh:
 
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pick and roll defense will be the key in general to this series.

I do think that Spo will have to go deep into his roster. He is stubborn and is lucky to have talent to hide his mistakes as a coach

I dont see how James Jones shouldnt get shots this series. He will need all the offensive tools he has at his disposal. Especially since Mike Miller is clearly injured

I cant see how one could make a prediction on this without any games being played

stans
 
Re: ~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder~-~-~-~

Westbrook gonna shoot em right out of a championship lol

Bone team nigga gonna try to be the hero
 
Re: ~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder~-~-~-~

yes
if you compare the way the bulls are constructed with only 1 scorer
as opposed to how okc is constructed with more consistent scorers than anyone you've faced in the playoffs then yea you are.

and all i know is you better not put chalmers on him
chalmers is bbq chicken westbrook is just flat out better than him
flat out.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

So you double a player who's team does better when the ball is out of his hands?
You double a player that shoots 39%?
You double one player when the rest of the team is filled with scorers?
c'mon man
:lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
Re: ~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder~-~-~-~

Miami has no chance in hell

1) theyre not deep enough...that 6 man rotation is not going to do it
2) theyre weak at the pg...you cant play 50 ft off of westbrook
3) if kg dominated them, my god ibaka and perk should dominate the boards
4) seflousha is an incredible defender
5) Fish is the old worldly vet who hits the big shots
6) KD is impossible matchup for the heat
7) Dwade has been charmin soft all playoffs...will he wake up?
8) Bron cant give you 45 every night
9) Bosh tends to get pushed around in the block...perk will punk him
10) OKC has home court


* i didnt even mention Harden yet :smh:

I'll be surprised if the Heat wins 2 games

Miami has too many weaknesses that OKC can exploit.....

plus Spo is an idiot

Miami never had a problem with D Rose but they will have a problem with Westbrook? If Miami did not have a problem with D Rose why would they have a problem with Westbrook who is shooting 30%?

Miami has a nine man rotation and not 6. Who is scoring for OKC besides Harden, Durant, and Westbrook?

Bosh feasts on Perkins because he is to slow to defend Bosh and struggles in the pick N roll. Ibaka can never stay on the floor because Bosh manhandles him. Both Perkins or Ibaka does not have any post moves. Plus Miami has always out rebounded OKC.

Perkins punking Bosh? Perkins probably wont get any minutes this series because of the damage Bosh does to him.
 
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Re: ~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder~-~-~-~

pick and roll defense will be the key in general to this series.

rebounding will be the key to this series and okc will dominate the boards

miami has won the rebounding battle in all of their series but that ends

this will be the one of the main reasons they lose
 
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Miami never had a problem with D Rose but they will have a problem with Westbrook? If Miami did not have a problem with D Rose why would they have a problem with Westbrook who is shooting 30%?

Miami has a nine man rotation and not 6. Who is scoring for OKC besides Harden, Durant, and Westbrook?

Bosh feasts on Perkins because he is to slow to defend Bosh and struggles in the pick N roll. Ibaka can never stay on the floor because Bosh manhandles him. Both Perkins or Ibaka has any post moves. Plus Miami has always out rebounded OKC.

Perkins punking Bosh? Perkins probably wont get any minutes this series because of the damage Bosh does to him.

dude you know i dont respond to your idiocy

why do you always try is beyond me

say something smart...just once!
 
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If some of you cats even pay attention during the season when okc played Miami Westbrook always have a bad game again the heat... That is no coincidence
 
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cmon fam
harden/westbrook/ibaka/durant all finish at the rim

see this is what im talking about

miami in 5? :smh:

Ibaka does not create his own shot. The rest are jump shooters. the only reason they don't shoot themselves out of games is because of their youth. Ibaka and Perkins gonna have to guard bosh away from that paint. Miami in 5
 
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:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

So you double a player who's team does better when the ball is out of his hands?
You double a player that shoots 39%?
You double one player when the rest of the team is filled with scorers?
c'mon man
:lol::lol::lol::lol:

where did i say anything about doubling :confused::confused:
so you think the comparison of teams between okc and the bulls are the same?

i said if he chose to compare the two instances then he was delusional because they're 2 different teams with way too many different parts.....


cmon now
 
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If some of you cats even pay attention during the season when okc played Miami Westbrook always have a bad game again the heat... That is no coincidence

if you paid attention to the regular season

they blew yall out at home and yall struggled for the win in your house

plus they destroyed you on the boards in both games

and westbrook played ok..lets not make shit up

but yall had no answers for kd or harden
 
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rebounding will be the key to this series and okc will dominate the boards

miami has won the rebounding battle in all of their series but that ends

this will be the one of the main reasons they lose

Why does that end? Miami played against one of the biggest teams in the league in Indiana. That pick and roll will cost OKC problems.
 
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he very well possibly can that is a real possibility which is another reason why i said gotta wait until game 1

If Mario have a solid scoring game Westbrook m.o is to always go back as his opponent if he got scored on.

He gets into that one on one b.s that fucks up the rythem of his team.

Just watch the bone headed shit he does it's like clock work
 
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Ibaka does not create his own shot. The rest are jump shooters. the only reason they don't shoot themselves out of games is because of their youth. Ibaka and Perkins gonna have to guard bosh away from that paint. Miami in 5

see this is why our conversation will be short.
you are talking about okc from a month ago not the okc of a week ago....
they have grown and changed so much
you're watching old tape and they play totally different

they attack the rim

they rebound

they pass the ball

and they play great defense

ibaka and perkins aren't gonna be on bosh they're not going to double team him lol the other will be in the paint and are a trillion times better than any other big man you have to offer, true or not?
 
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Why does that end? Miami played against one of the biggest teams in the league in Indiana. That pick and roll will cost OKC problems.


indiana had one big...stop it!

man you niggas are out of control

perk, collison, ibaka, and hell kd is almost 7 ft

plus westbrook grabs boards from the pg position

they will kill you on the boards again
 
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If Mario have a solid scoring game Westbrook m.o is to always go back as his opponent if he got scored on.

He gets into that one on one b.s that fucks up the rythem of his team.

Just watch the bone headed shit he does it's like clock work

and they still won against better teams than miami

you need a better argument dude

this is wishful thinking
 
Re: ~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder~-~-~-~

see this is why our conversation will be short.
you are talking about okc from a month ago not the okc of a week ago....
they have grown and changed so much
you're watching old tape and they play totally different

they attack the rim

they rebound

they pass the ball

and they play great defense

i dont think miami could beat the okc team from the regular season either

its just bad matchups across the floor
 
Re: ~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder~-~-~-~

if you paid attention to the regular season

they blew yall out at home and yall struggled for the win in your house

plus they destroyed you on the boards in both games

and westbrook played ok..lets not make shit up

but yall had no answers for kd or harden

Post his stats from both games

Funny how you think 1 blow out in a reg season game indicates anything then try to deminish a heat win by saying the heat struggled to win the next game

Series was 1-1 I ain't got to make anything up proof is there
 
Re: ~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder~-~-~-~

Miami never had a problem with D Rose but they will have a problem with Westbrook? If Miami did not have a problem with D Rose why would they have a problem with Westbrook who is shooting 30%?


for the simple fact that you could key on derrick and due to lack of real talent separation create their own shot talent you could effectively stop the bulls.

you're not going to be focused on westbrook you're going to be focused on kevin durant... which lets westbrook free IF he decides to attack the rim who's gonna stop him?
 
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If Mario have a solid scoring game Westbrook m.o is to always go back as his opponent if he got scored on.

He gets into that one on one b.s that fucks up the rythem of his team.

Just watch the bone headed shit he does it's like clock work

but you and i know that lebron and wade don't like mario enough to let him have a decent scoring. lol

this isn't even hate you know i dont speak from hate but mario won't have enough creation shots to compete with westbrook 2 different offenses... now if mario hits opens 3's then we'll see

but all that's moot because mario can't guard westbrook not 1 bit.

put mario on seffalosa
 
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Post his stats from both games

Funny how you think 1 blow out in a reg season game indicates anything then try to deminish a heat win by saying the heat struggled to win the next game

Series was 1-1 I ain't got to make anything up proof is there

you can post his stats since you want to see them

and youre argument is weak

its convenient for yall to bring up shit from the past but when i do its wrong

youre calling him a bonehead when he just matched up against TP and won

what is miami going to do when youre piss poor at pg?

they cant play off him like they did non shooting rondo

if they do he's going to have 30 a night

and who is going to rebound, pimpin?
 
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and they still won against better teams than miami

you need a better argument dude

this is wishful thinking

This nigga getting emotional, what the celtics heat series ain't turned out how you planned it? Lmaoooo

Lol @ I need a better argument

This nigga here.... You trying to hard b :lol:

Your heat bias is shinning.....
 
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yes
if you compare the way the bulls are constructed with only 1 scorer
as opposed to how okc is constructed with more consistent scorers than anyone you've faced in the playoffs then yea you are.

and all i know is you better not put chalmers on him
chalmers is bbq chicken westbrook is just flat out better than him
flat out.

Miami will never double Westbrook or any NBA team for that matter. Westbrook has never proven to be nothing more than a streak shooter who overall shoots a low percentage. Westbrook shot under 35% in the Spurs series and Miami's perimeter defense is 10X stronger than the Spurs.

Chalmers has played Westbrook that last two years and has played him well. Westbrook never went off and will not because he does not shoot a hig percentage.
 
Re: ~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder~-~-~-~

Miami will never double Westbrook or any NBA team for that matter. Westbrook has never proven to be nothing more than a streak shooter who overall shoots a low percentage. Westbrook shot under 35% in the Spurs series and Miami's perimeter defense is 10X stronger than the Spurs.

Chalmers has played Westbrook that last two years and has played him well. Westbrook never went off and will not because he does not shoot a hig percentage.

youre saying shit that had nothing to do with what i was talking about.
you used the bulls as an example and it was a horrible one.


if westbrook tries to hit jumpers you get off easy

if he attacks the rim you're not equipped to stop him...you don't have anyone on your roster with his speed period.
 
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This nigga getting emotional, what the celtics heat series ain't turned out how you planned it? Lmaoooo

Lol @ I need a better argument

This nigga here.... You trying to hard b :lol:

Your heat bias is shinning.....

dude there is no emotion there

and besides thats the comment i use on you all the time

stop trying to change the subject

even that....didnt you quit on miami against indiana

hell you quit on dwade the other night...now youre the biggest bron fan

your bandwagon hopping niggas are hysterical

and the btw i can post several posts where i was rooting for you bum ass niggas

now tell me who is going to rebound?
 
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but you and i know that lebron and wade don't like mario enough to let him have a decent scoring. lol

this isn't even hate you know i dont speak from hate but mario won't have enough creation shots to compete with westbrook 2 different offenses... now if mario hits opens 3's then we'll see

but all that's moot because mario can't guard westbrook not 1 bit.

put mario on seffalosa

Lmao I agree bron and wade stay barking on him. He ain't immune from the bone head nigga status either

The first game will def tell the tale
 
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you can post his stats since you want to see them

and youre argument is weak

its convenient for yall to bring up shit from the past but when i do its wrong

youre calling him a bonehead when he just matched up against TP and won

what is miami going to do when youre piss poor at pg?

they cant play off him like they did non shooting rondo

if they do he's going to have 30 a night

and who is going to rebound, pimpin?

Lmaoooo so now you don't want to post westbrook stats from those 2 reg season games against the heat? Figures

Miami have a decent pg for you to say Mario is piss poor smh he ain't the best but he ain't the worst how you making it out.

dude there is no emotion there

and besides thats the comment i use on you all the time

stop trying to change the subject

even that....didnt you quit on miami against indiana

hell you quit on dwade the other night...now youre the biggest bron fan

your bandwagon hopping niggas are hysterical

and the btw i can post several posts where i was rooting for you bum ass niggas

tell me who is going to rebound?

So when all else fail revert back to bandwagon this and that Lmaoooo

Get a new phrase that shit getting old
 
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Lmaoooo so now you don't want to post westbrook stats from those 2 reg season games against the heat? Figures

Miami have a decent pg for you to say Mario is piss poor smh he ain't the best but he ain't the worst how you making it out.



So when all else fail revert back to bandwagon this and that Lmaoooo

Get a new phrase that shit getting old

:lol:

just because its getting old to you doesnt mean its false

this is what you do!

and nigga you can find his stats just as easy as i can

youre asking for them not me

i watched both games and one team has improved(and they still wouldve beat you niggas then) and the other well....theyve come to the end of their journey
 
Re: ~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder~-~-~-~

if you paid attention to the regular season

they blew yall out at home and yall struggled for the win in your house

plus they destroyed you on the boards in both games

and westbrook played ok..lets not make shit up

but yall had no answers for kd or harden

Tell'em bro OKC is a PROBLEM.
 
Re: ~-~-~-~Official 2012 NBA Finals Thread: Miami Heat vs. OKC Thunder~-~-~-~

Aside from Harden... who on OKC's bench is a consistent scorer? I'll wait...


And you keep saying these dudes are as well rounded as last year Mavs. I totally disagree. Theyre deep? Every team the Heat faced so far has been deeper than them. Pacers on paper, should have exposed the fuck out of Miami... but Lebron and Wade went YOLO on the court.

What people tend to forget about the Mavs last year, is that the adjustment of starting Barea at the 2, zone defense, and Chandler all combined together is what killed Miami....

1) OKC has no mismatch that is equal to Barea. Barea was too small and quick to guard... last year.

2) Zone defense? Every team in the playoffs that used the zone against Miami failed. It might have slowed them down at times but they solved it very quick. They'll either make a 3 or just move the ball and penetrate.

3) Chandler. OKC has Ibaka and Perkins. Cool. Bosh in... and let Haslem hit a few Jumpers. That floor will spread quickly. If Bosh is firing 3s now like he did last night... its a wrap.


Thunders play DECENT defense compared to Miami. The Heat have 3 of the best perimeter defenders... And probably the only player in the league that can consistently guard Durant. As long as Miami is careful with the ball... they will be fine. Thunders will beat them by Miami's careless mistakes. If Miami can stay disciplined, Thunders' suspect half court offense will get exposed quick.


Whoever has the best pick and roll defense will win. Since Miami has been known for their pick and roll defense this season... I'll roll with them in 6. Spo's line-ups and offensive plays is always hit or miss... but for the fact Miami is a top 3 defensive team... AND they are undersized, you have to credit dude.

Dude Im going to answer this real quick

1. Barea hmmmm isnt westbrook quicker and faster than jj berea.:eek::eek::eek: who on the heat will guard westbrook??:lol::lol::lol::lol:

2. Zone Defense the celtics slowed the heat down without a real center or even PF.

3. Chandler......Hmmm Ibaka has twice as many blocks as anyone this playoffs......and Perkins can guard any 4 or 5.....

Ask the Mavs,Lakers and Spurs about IBAKA AND PERKINS....beat bymun,dirk,gasol,tim duncan.....IBAKA and PERKINS are no joke son!!

Did u see the regualar season games between these two teams....OKC clearly has advantages.

I didnt even mention HARDEN who just might be the best most complete basketball player on the team. Durant great scorer,Westbrook most atheltic. but James harden is that baller.

We will see i go OKC in 6 sticking to that.
 
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dude you know i dont respond to your idiocy

why do you always try is beyond me

say something smart...just once!

The reason you can't respond because you typed nothing but bullshit.
 
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:lol:

just because its getting old to you doesnt mean its false

this is what you do!

and nigga you can find his stats just as easy as i can

youre asking for them not me

i watched both games and one team has improved(and they still wouldve beat you niggas then) and the other well....theyve come to the end of their journey

If I was so much of a bandwagon fan i would not be posting when they lose and I damn sure would've went ghost when they lost to the mavs
You clowns convinced yourselves that I hopped on the heat train after the decision Lmaoooo

Funny you niggas wasn't there when me and Beeii was going at it during the 10 first round playoffs with the heat and celtics

Lebron was no where on that team but I will let you believe what a bandwagon nigga I am
 
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