Official 2012 Lakers vs Thunder Playoff Thread
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Re: Thunder Playoff Thread
what mistakes
he missed shots. did he turn the ball over, miss free throws?
If you have the ball, and nobody has position and your teammates aren't making shots or shooting, what are you going to do?
Guys have to be more aggressive...that's a general statement. We got out worked in the fourth.
And why is it you haven't answered any of my questions. Have you watched the fourth again to point out all these "mistakes" Kobe made.
what mistakes
he missed shots. did he turn the ball over, miss free throws?If you have the ball, and nobody has position and your teammates aren't making shots or shooting, what are you going to do?
Guys have to be more aggressive...that's a general statement. We got out worked in the fourth.
And why is it you haven't answered any of my questions. Have you watched the fourth again to point out all these "mistakes" Kobe made.
Re: Thunder Playoff Thread
You don't get it. Look at my post the one you quoted and daimels just posted my problem with Bryant statement was he put the blame on his teammates.
the same people who took up for you in Game 2 when you were the one who made two cruical turnovers.
Yes Kobe Bryant made mistakes in game 2 but did he own up to those mistakes? no he credit the Thunder for taking risk that usually don't payoff.
translation: that doesn't happen all the time so those two turnovers that gave the thunder momentum were not my fault.
Who said bryant made mistakes last night.
What I said mistakes made in game 2.
So when it's Pau making the turnover it's a problem but when Kobe makes a two turnover in less than 2 minutes it's okay.
My point was this you go 2-10 you can't say nothing. Kobe already cost them a game and his teammates took up for him the game he feels his teammates weren't being aggressive he feels that what lost them the game??
You still don't see what I'm trying to say.
I'm put it like this. When it's Kobe fault why the Lakers lost it's "The Thunder made risk that usually don't result in a turnover." When it's his teammates "guys have to be more aggressive."
WHAT THE FUCK????
what mistakes
If you have the ball, and nobody has position and your teammates aren't making shots or shooting, what are you going to do?
Guys have to be more aggressive...that's a general statement. We got out worked in the fourth.
And why is it you haven't answered any of my questions. Have you watched the fourth again to point out all these "mistakes" Kobe made.
You don't get it. Look at my post the one you quoted and daimels just posted my problem with Bryant statement was he put the blame on his teammates.
the same people who took up for you in Game 2 when you were the one who made two cruical turnovers.
Yes Kobe Bryant made mistakes in game 2 but did he own up to those mistakes? no he credit the Thunder for taking risk that usually don't payoff.
translation: that doesn't happen all the time so those two turnovers that gave the thunder momentum were not my fault.
Who said bryant made mistakes last night.
What I said mistakes made in game 2.
So when it's Pau making the turnover it's a problem but when Kobe makes a two turnover in less than 2 minutes it's okay.
My point was this you go 2-10 you can't say nothing. Kobe already cost them a game and his teammates took up for him the game he feels his teammates weren't being aggressive he feels that what lost them the game??
You still don't see what I'm trying to say.
I'm put it like this. When it's Kobe fault why the Lakers lost it's "The Thunder made risk that usually don't result in a turnover." When it's his teammates "guys have to be more aggressive."
WHAT THE FUCK????
Yesterday my daughter had graduation and a bbq at my crib. I got fucked up, passed out and missed the second half of the game. This morning when I got up and checked the score I was like 
I'm watching the game now on NBATV and damn! KD is a killa!!! I'll be at game 5 to see the Lakers finished off.
I'm watching the game now on NBATV and damn! KD is a killa!!! I'll be at game 5 to see the Lakers finished off.
Re: Thunder Playoff Thread
You are a moron. The context of that statement is about TAKING SHOTS. Of course it's not fine to miss the majority...but compared to someone taking ZERO, there is no comparison. Why don't you look at how Kobe played for the other 3 quarters, compared to Gasol? You're being selective and stupid.
There is NO excuse for Gasol taking ZERO shots in the 4th and just three in the 3rd.
Jackass.
You are going to actually type that shit and tell someone they don't comprehend??
So what if Kobe miss the majority of his shots??? Really??? Really???
I can't even respond to that.
So did Bynum have a lack of hunger too?? Yea u know the guy who after the game had a problem with not getting the ball.
This is hilarious. Stick to NBA 2k because you don't know what the hell you are talking about.
when is okay for any player to miss the majority of his shots??
You are a moron. The context of that statement is about TAKING SHOTS. Of course it's not fine to miss the majority...but compared to someone taking ZERO, there is no comparison. Why don't you look at how Kobe played for the other 3 quarters, compared to Gasol? You're being selective and stupid.
There is NO excuse for Gasol taking ZERO shots in the 4th and just three in the 3rd.
Jackass.
Re: Thunder Playoff Thread
Dude u the one who made the retarded statement now trying to cleaning it up.
So it's okay for Kobe to miss majority of his shots because Pau took zero.
that's the stupid shit you said.
take Kobe's dick out of your mouth because the lack of oxygen is fucking with your way of thinking or just ask your mother for tips on dicksucking and how she breathes through her nose when she is at her 9 to 5
Don't call me the moron. I'm not the idiot who nutted up in that whore who spit you out of her diseased rotten womb. Then again that probably explains why you think the way you do.
Dude u the one who made the retarded statement now trying to cleaning it up.
So it's okay for Kobe to miss majority of his shots because Pau took zero.
that's the stupid shit you said.
take Kobe's dick out of your mouth because the lack of oxygen is fucking with your way of thinking or just ask your mother for tips on dicksucking and how she breathes through her nose when she is at her 9 to 5
Don't call me the moron. I'm not the idiot who nutted up in that whore who spit you out of her diseased rotten womb. Then again that probably explains why you think the way you do.
Re: Thunder Playoff Thread
Your argument is foolishness. Your constant need to blame Kobe for every loss is clouding your objectivity. A guy who played soft nearly all game and was a complete GHOST in the 4th can't be pointed at for not being aggressive? GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.
Compare the quarters that Kobe played versus the quarters that Gasol played:
Kobe: 1st - 4/6; 2nd - 3/6; 3rd - 6/8; 4th - 2/10;
Gasol: 1st - 2/4; 2nd - 3/5; 3rd - 2/3; 4th - 0/0;
It's obvious that Kobe is largely referring to Gasol's second half play. Gasol took THREE shots in the entire second half. Read that again. Gasol took THREE shots in the entire second half.
How are some of you so retarded?!
Your argument is foolishness. Your constant need to blame Kobe for every loss is clouding your objectivity. A guy who played soft nearly all game and was a complete GHOST in the 4th can't be pointed at for not being aggressive? GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE.
Compare the quarters that Kobe played versus the quarters that Gasol played:
Kobe: 1st - 4/6; 2nd - 3/6; 3rd - 6/8; 4th - 2/10;
Gasol: 1st - 2/4; 2nd - 3/5; 3rd - 2/3; 4th - 0/0;
It's obvious that Kobe is largely referring to Gasol's second half play. Gasol took THREE shots in the entire second half. Read that again. Gasol took THREE shots in the entire second half.
How are some of you so retarded?!
Constant need find all my post in this thread did I blame him for Game 4. My problem with Bryant was putting the blame on his teammates.
constant need. Should I post all my post in this thread.
All I said is how anyone going 2-10 can put blame on his teammates. The same teammates who took up for him when he did cost them game 2.Then again dick riders like you will point out Blake missed open shot but will ignore Bryant turning over the ball.
Don't be upset what I said is the truth. Your father wish he would just skeeted across your mother face like the rest of the fellas in your mother neighborhood instead of fucking that whore. Then again fools do foolish things and I see it's hereditary judging from your comments.
Constant need find all my post in this thread did I blame him for Game 4. My problem with Bryant was putting the blame on his teammates.
constant need. Should I post all my post in this thread.
Then again dick riders like you will point out Blake missed open shot but will ignore Bryant turning over the ball.
Do you think that just because you put a laughing graphic on your post that you're funny? You're a moron, son. I'm not giving Bryant a pass for the other game. He fucked up at the end of that one, plain and simple. Kobe gave himself a pass but I never did. Gasol's issues in game 4 were about more than the last play that he fucked up. He played like an abused child for the entire second half. If you can't see that, then you have no business commenting on ball, you homo.
Dude I'm laughing because your a dick rider. You are saying it's okay for Bryant to blame teammates in one game but avoid blame himself in another.
That is a true definition of a dick rider. My problem wasn't with Bryant going 2-10 my problem was with a guy going 2-10 and cost a game already blaming the same teammates that stood by him.
If you don't get that then you are the idiot
Yeah, I'm a dick rider. Moron.
Kobe cost them the game when he had over 30 points before the quarter even started? So the second scoring option taking three shots in the entire second half is Kobe's fault? Kobe is not the one that lost the game, this time or in Game 2. In Game 2, it was mostly perimeter shooting and poor bench output. In Game 4, it was mostly the disappearance of Gasol. You're cherrypicking what you're talking about and not looking at the entirety of the games.
Like I said, pick another thing to comment on. Ball is not for you. Go start a Figure Skating Online board and do your thing over there. Homo.
Who is saying Kobe cost them the game. Again you don't even know what your disagreeing with. Problem is this.
I stated my opinion all through this thread and others have quoted me.
my statement after i watch the game and then went to NBA TV to watch the full post game interviews
1. Did I mention Kobe cost them the game.
2. Did I say his 2-10 is the reason they lost
No I didn't so what the hell are you talking about
that's what you said see this is how you and other dickriders think. You mentioning shit that has nothing to do with who you are debating.
My post spoke about a player passing blame on his teammates. The same player who avoided blame when he did cost the Lakers game 2 and his teammates took up for him
again but the dick rider in you don't see that. all you see is someone speaking on Kobe's bullshit.
Idiots like you have a problem with Ron Artest passing the ball to Blake for an open 3. Yet won't even mention Kobe turnovers was what cause the momentum in game 2.
My point has always been this. Kobe can't pass blame on anyone in this series. NOT AFTER GAME 2. I will say it again going 2-10 doesn't help either.
So wait Kobe didn't make 2 key turnovers in game 2 that gave the Thunder momentum??
So my bad Pau turnsover the ball yesterday and he is bum but we ignore the turnovers Kobe make late in the game for game 2.
Yea of course you are not a dick rider.
You are willing to point out others flaws while ignoring when someone else.
I'm gonna say the same thing your dad says to himself every time he sees or thinks about you.
"Your mother should have got an abortion."
Re: Thunder Playoff Thread
Can you stop with the big font, that shit is fuckin retarded.
You'll find me saying Kobe fucked up
Just like you'll see me saying Pau fucked up on that play.
You expect me to answer your questions, but you completely ignore mine...GTFOH
I asked you to DVR the fuckin game and point out specifically where Kobe fucked up instead of pointing out bullshit stats. You said you watched the game, right?
Can you stop with the big font, that shit is fuckin retarded.
You'll find me saying Kobe fucked up
Just like you'll see me saying Pau fucked up on that play.
You expect me to answer your questions, but you completely ignore mine...GTFOH
I asked you to DVR the fuckin game and point out specifically where Kobe fucked up instead of pointing out bullshit stats. You said you watched the game, right?
Re: Thunder Playoff Thread
1. I post how ever I want you have a problem with it ignore the shit. I don't tell you how to post don't tell me.
2. I don't see you saying Kobe fucked up. I see you arguing with RR about Lebron being clutch. I see you asking posters is Kobe suppose to be happy. The comment you made after the lakers lost was
Got blown out and lost one we should have won.
So if you have a post putting blame on Kobe like u do with Pau point it to me because I don't see it. At least not right after the game.
In fact here were the responses during that time
here is your response
So again if you did blame Kobe the same way you are blaming Pau point it out because I look in the thread after that page but it turns to u arguing with cranrab roadrage and others
3. I said kobe fucked up by blaming teammates who took up for him. I brought his 2-10 out of the fourth quarter because it wasn't like he was perfect. again look at the post you quoted last night I was asking how is kobe going to put blame on teammates who took up for him when he cost them a game with less than 2 minutes.
See what I don't like is Kobe passing blame on people who took up for him. He wants to hold teammates accountable but can't hold himself accountable for the loss in game 2???
GTOFH. Anyone defending that is a dick rider because what you saying it's okay for Kobe to give up blame but not accept it??
Can you stop with the big font, that shit is fuckin retarded.
You'll find me saying Kobe fucked up
Just like you'll see me saying Pau fucked up on that play.
You expect me to answer your questions, but you completely ignore mine...GTFOH
I asked you to DVR the fuckin game and point out specifically where Kobe fucked up instead of pointing out bullshit stats. You said you watched the game, right?
1. I post how ever I want you have a problem with it ignore the shit. I don't tell you how to post don't tell me.
2. I don't see you saying Kobe fucked up. I see you arguing with RR about Lebron being clutch. I see you asking posters is Kobe suppose to be happy. The comment you made after the lakers lost was
Got blown out and lost one we should have won.
So if you have a post putting blame on Kobe like u do with Pau point it to me because I don't see it. At least not right after the game.
In fact here were the responses during that time
Kobe done fucked off the game
WHAT IN THA FUK IS WRONG WITH KOBE???!!!!!!!
is that mutha fuka having a mental breakdown?????
So which one of you niggas gonna make a Did Kobe choke tonight thread?
Thunder down by 7.
Kobe allows Harden to BLOW right pass him.
Thunder down by 5
Kobe Literally throws the Ball in KD's hands, Fast break Lay up.
Thunder down by 3
Ball goes out of Bounds off Kobe's hands
Harden Blows by Kobe again.
Thunder down by 1
Kobe throws up Bad shot, Airball. Thunder scores on Next Possession.
Thunder take Lead.
Kobe THREW AWAY THIS GAME HIMSELF.
In my lifetime I have NEVER seen a player, whether scrub or great player throw away a game, whether Preseason, Regular season or Postseason, like Kobe just did tonight.
man lakers choked this shit away...they had this
here is your response
So again if you did blame Kobe the same way you are blaming Pau point it out because I look in the thread after that page but it turns to u arguing with cranrab roadrage and others
3. I said kobe fucked up by blaming teammates who took up for him. I brought his 2-10 out of the fourth quarter because it wasn't like he was perfect. again look at the post you quoted last night I was asking how is kobe going to put blame on teammates who took up for him when he cost them a game with less than 2 minutes.
See what I don't like is Kobe passing blame on people who took up for him. He wants to hold teammates accountable but can't hold himself accountable for the loss in game 2???
GTOFH. Anyone defending that is a dick rider because what you saying it's okay for Kobe to give up blame but not accept it??
Re: Thunder Playoff Thread
And still you don't point it out
And you also are using partial quotes in response to questions.
Did you see the whole post game interviews? So you know the questions and his ENTIRE responses?
You didn't even post the whole fuckin Pau quote, when he said he'll be more aggressive next game.
And also you'll see when that turnover happen I said that turnover was big, did I say Pau fucked up? Did I place the blame on Pau, no I said it was the entire team.
Do you think being 6'11 and grabbing 5 boards is being aggressive?
You expect me to answer your questions, but you completely ignore mine...GTFOH
And still you don't point it out
And you also are using partial quotes in response to questions.
Did you see the whole post game interviews? So you know the questions and his ENTIRE responses?
You didn't even post the whole fuckin Pau quote, when he said he'll be more aggressive next game.
And also you'll see when that turnover happen I said that turnover was big, did I say Pau fucked up? Did I place the blame on Pau, no I said it was the entire team.
Do you think being 6'11 and grabbing 5 boards is being aggressive?
the fucking stans have come out in full force. i don't hate kobe i respect him and his game
last night it was his fucking fault
how can you blame big men who cant get the ball to themselves?
how can you not blame soneone who went 2-10
he took more shots than both big men combined but its not his fault
then he says players need to be more aggressive?
hold on ill be back with some video proof
And still you don't point it out
And you also are using partial quotes in response to questions.
Did you see the whole post game interviews? So you know the questions and his ENTIRE responses?
You didn't even post the whole fuckin Pau quote, when he said he'll be more aggressive next game.
And also you'll see when that turnover happen I said that turnover was big, did I say Pau fucked up? Did I place the blame on Pau, no I said it was the entire team.
Do you think being 6'11 and grabbing 5 boards is being aggressive?
So he said Pau will be aggressive the next game. DOESN'T CHANGE THAT HE PUT THE BLAME ON PAU THIS GAME!!!
even magic and the rest was questioning Kobe blaming his teammates.
My point is this how is Kobe Bryant going to blame Pau or anyone for game 4 when he cost them game 2. That was why I was pissed when I saw his post game comments.
He could have said "we" We have to find a way to be more aggressive. We will be aggressive next game. No he put it on the other guys.
If the other guys would had did what Kobe did in game 2 I bet you would have a problem with it.
Pau what do you think about Kobe's late turnover. "I think he needs to make a better decision when passing the ball."
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the fucking stans have come out in full force. i don't hate kobe i respect him and his game
last night it was his fucking fault
how can you blame big men who cant get the ball to themselves?
how can you not blame soneone who went 2-10
he took more shots than both big men combined but its not his fault
then he says players need to be more aggressive?
hold on ill be back with some video proof
I know. I like the guy game but no one can defend the bullshit he pulled blaming teammates but can't take the blame when it's on him??? GTFOH.
He had every excuse why the turnovers in game 2 weren't on him. Why he went 2-10 last night but his teammates can be blame for last night lost???
Do you have a comprehension problem
He said it was Pau's fault?
He said he needs to be more aggressive
Mike Brown said he should have taken the shot. Is Mike Brown blaming Pau too? No, they're saying he should have shot instead of passing.
Do you know the question?
Re: Thunder Playoff Thread
fronting andrew bynum has NOTHING to do with it.
there are very easy ways to defeat a front, like simple ball reversal and/or changing the angle of the entry pass.
And them fronting Bynum had nothing to do with it either
fronting andrew bynum has NOTHING to do with it.
there are very easy ways to defeat a front, like simple ball reversal and/or changing the angle of the entry pass.
Re: Thunder Playoff Thread
I know that, and that's why I said they didn't adjust to them fronting him.
fronting andrew bynum has NOTHING to do with it.
there are very easy ways to defeat a front, like simple ball reversal and/or changing the angle of the entry pass.
I know that, and that's why I said they didn't adjust to them fronting him.
Do you have a comprehension problem
He said it was Pau's fault?
He said he needs to be more aggressive
Mike Brown said he should have taken the shot. Is Mike Brown blaming Pau too? No, they're saying he should have shot instead of passing.
Do you know the question?
I can't discuss this with you. You are too much a Kobe fan. They asked the question on the pre game show was Kobe right at for blaming/singling out Pau Gasol
Look at what it the fucking title in the LA's newspaper today
http://www.latimes.com/sports/laker...er-after-game-4-loss-20120520,0,7928994.story
Let's see what Pau says
May you have the comprehension problem or do you need Kobe to say exactly "This loss is on Pau."
Again my point was and is still this. Kobe bringing up what Pau has to do or his teammates yet when it's was him game 2 he took none of the blame.
Bullshit
I know you don't want blame to go on Kobe but that is a bullshit.
Point is this Kobe wants to hold teammates accountable but don't want to hold himself accountable for his mistakes?
GTFOH
Re: Thunder Playoff Thread
same thing Magic Johnson said pre game show
fronting andrew bynum has NOTHING to do with it.
there are very easy ways to defeat a front, like simple ball reversal and/or changing the angle of the entry pass.
same thing Magic Johnson said pre game show
I agree. Koby isn't the Koby he used to be. Look at the first half when Koby was sitting out. The Lakers had good ball movement and they worked as a unit feeding the ball inside; they did damage. As soon as Koby comes back in he's holding the ball up and missing shots. There was even one play when he tried to showboat between the legs and driving to the basket only to lose the ball and OKC scored at the other end. I'm not saying Koby is all washed up, but he has come to the point in his career where he has to come to grips with the fact that he can't get it done like he used to and needs to humble himself and let the new focus (Bynum in the middle) take the lead. That's the same issue when Shaq was there.
So what did Mike Brown say
"You've got to get a little selfish."
And your whole argument could be reversed, because Pau tried to place blame on Kobe
So can he blame another teammate after grabbing 5 boards, going 0 for in the fourth and that turnover?I said it was on the team from the beginning.
Great teams win the close games.
The Lakers have had an oppourtunity in 2 of the 3 losses. But have failed to execute in the crunch. Errant passes,failed offensive execution,etc. They just remind of an old past his prime boxing champ.
OKC has proven thus far when the game is on the line. They can finish.
The Lakers have had an oppourtunity in 2 of the 3 losses. But have failed to execute in the crunch. Errant passes,failed offensive execution,etc. They just remind of an old past his prime boxing champ.
OKC has proven thus far when the game is on the line. They can finish.
So what did Mike Brown say
"You've got to get a little selfish."
And your whole argument could be reversed, because Pau tried to place blame on Kobe
I said it was on the team from the beginning.
No this is what you said
You tried to make it seem like Kobe wasn't putting blame on Pau. That all Kobe was doing was saying Pau has to be aggressive.
then you brought up the coach
There you go again trying to make excuses for what Bryant did. Bryant put the blame on Pau. Mike said Pau should have shot the ball so did he blame Pau? There is a difference between a coach and a player. The coach is in charge of the team.
Kobe wants to call out pau but doesn't want to hold himself accountable for his mistakes?? Seriously??
where did Pau blame Kobe.
I saw this
looks like he was saying it was a team lost. it wasn't one play where someone miss a shot, didn't take a shot or turn the ball over.
Let me guess this is what you saw
Catch what he said afterwards he made it point that it was about one player missing shots.
Now if Bryant would have did the same thing I would not had a problem. Yet he didn't he called out teammates for not being aggressive, not spacing, not getting him open etc etc etc.
Again my point is and what a lot people are asking this morning. How can kobe take blame but not hold himself accountable for his fuck ups??
This is repetitive
Do you know the questions asked and the whole quote?
"It's hard to say," Gasol said. "We want the ball in Kobe's hands, but it doesn't necessarily need to be so early in the shot clock. We can get there later in the shot clock when the ball has moved and changed sides to the floor instead of being there from the beginning."
Is he blaming Kobe or because he said we is it ok?
But he didn't take responsibility for the loss. "I don't feel like we lost the game on one turnover," Gasol said.
He didn't take responsibility the same way you want Kobe too
"I couldn't get the ball. I wasn't part of the game," Bynum said. "We need to slow down the game, go side to side. We can cut them to pieces. You can't keep running the same plays.''
Is he blaming Mike Brown and his teammates
Re: Thunder Playoff Thread
oh the irony.
you just outed yourself as a box score watcher.
people who actually watched the game (and are honest individuals) can flatly tell you what happened.
tell us how many touches pau gasol had to go with those 0 Q4 FGAs.
oh the irony.
you just outed yourself as a box score watcher.
people who actually watched the game (and are honest individuals) can flatly tell you what happened.
tell us how many touches pau gasol had to go with those 0 Q4 FGAs.
Re: Thunder Playoff Thread
tobe's post game from G2 of the denver nuggets series leaves him and his stans no wiggle room.
they love to deflect and scapegoat.
ONE pau gasol TO in Q4 was more pivotal than tobe's poor shot selection, poor shooting performance, and mental blunders.
that's what they'd have you believe.
tobe's post game from G2 of the denver nuggets series leaves him and his stans no wiggle room.
they love to deflect and scapegoat.
ONE pau gasol TO in Q4 was more pivotal than tobe's poor shot selection, poor shooting performance, and mental blunders.
that's what they'd have you believe.
Re: Thunder Playoff Thread
if that's how you perceived what you saw in last night's game, you proved you know NOTHING about basketball.
the answer to your question, BTW, is NOT to dribble out the shot clock for stat chasing primadonna FGAs. good basketball players know to be patient and keep the ball moving.
dumb players with NO basketball IQ take the bait and shoot their team out of games. coach brown showed the world this in 2003-04.
if that's how you perceived what you saw in last night's game, you proved you know NOTHING about basketball.
the answer to your question, BTW, is NOT to dribble out the shot clock for stat chasing primadonna FGAs. good basketball players know to be patient and keep the ball moving.
dumb players with NO basketball IQ take the bait and shoot their team out of games. coach brown showed the world this in 2003-04.
Thunder Playoff Thread
the rainbow crusade loves to out themselves.
this type of mentality is textbook illustration of how tobe stans know NOTHING about basketball.
how'd all that scoring work out for the team?
how'd all those shots work out for the team?
google albert einstein's definition of insanity.
the rainbow crusade loves to out themselves.
this type of mentality is textbook illustration of how tobe stans know NOTHING about basketball.
how'd all that scoring work out for the team?
how'd all those shots work out for the team?
google albert einstein's definition of insanity.
Thunder Playoff Thread
no. the thunder have proven that they can capitalize off of their opponent's poor play.
they have yet to prove that they can create their own good play.
huge difference.
there are teams left in the playoffs who are the opposite.
and there is 1 team left in the playoffs who has demonstrated the ability to do both.
no. the thunder have proven that they can capitalize off of their opponent's poor play.
they have yet to prove that they can create their own good play.
huge difference.
there are teams left in the playoffs who are the opposite.
and there is 1 team left in the playoffs who has demonstrated the ability to do both.
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