Of course he did, you know the repubs don't play fair. Any advantage for that old billy goat McCain is a plus for them.
Obama is such a moron!
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Of course he did, you know the repubs don't play fair. Any advantage for that old billy goat McCain is a plus for them.
Man that old motherfucker did get prepped no way in the world that old bastard is that quick answering questions come on this was a setup
That's all he needed to do! Obama should never agree to be posed questions about abortion, stem cell, marriage, if he wants to court evangelicals. Progressive and liberals are a different story. He should just keep talking about jesus, sponsor faith based initiatives.
It just a no win proposition for him. Eventhough he didn't do badly, it just not good enough. Basically, John is the winner tonight.
I am looking to their first debate where Obana can intellectually slap him.
Evangelicals or cult members have no pull no more especially after they got hook winked by GWB on his compassionate conservative platform
Obama is going to intellectually slap him, shit will not even look fair.
gotta admit...Mccain was smooth tonight.
he been working with somebody.
how did yall like the way our new president Mccain handled his bizness tonight?
lol
he been working with somebody.
how did yall like the way our new president Mccain handled his bizness tonight?
lol
Well to Evangelical's defense, the "young ones" are not single issue voters. Meaning they are willing to waive their anti pro choice beliefs in order to seek out other candidates who are committed to fighting AIDS, helping the homeless, getting clean energy, bringing the troops home etc. I read an article a few months ago that there are evangelicals who are like Obama because they've realized wedge issues like abortion and gay rights are divisive and are now trying to getting more important stuff accomplished.
Yep. That is who he is reaching out to... I've read lots of articles about how evangelicals are dissatisfied with the GOP and conservative movement...and McCain..and many have openly supported Obama and/or taking a hard look at not voting Republican for the first time in their lives..
Word.
Exactly. That's why I think its a good idea that he doesn't shy away from these people. It's not like the whole world don't know he's pro choice. They already know where he stands. Thats why he's beating John McCain 2:1 on the woman vote. He can't lose any more support from evangelicals than he's already had due to his liberal positions. If he can keep the percentage Kerry had and add a little more then its a success.
these crackers ain't voting for his black ass.
Yep, they never voted for him in the primaries.
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?Anyone got a youtube link
Actually Obama accounted himself quite well at this event. He answered the questions before him and did not step into any landmines. He also told them in the strongest language possible that he does not approve of Clarence Thomas, Scalia, or Chief Justice Roberts. To the BGOL fam he played chess not checkers again tonight.
I would agree those Justices he named noticed they were picked by Republican presidents. Straight far right wing justices.
Actually Obama accounted himself quite well at this event. He answered the questions before him and did not step into any landmines. He also told them in the strongest language possible that he does not approve of Clarence Thomas, Scalia, or Chief Justice Roberts. To the BGOL fam he played chess not checkers again tonight.
Some of these dudes don't see it they wanna see the man fail
so bad they quick to call a L......Barack gave dudes options either
run for office there-self or vote Mccain. i love when he called out
Clarence Thomas his best shit
Hell. I have White friends from Orange County, that always tell me that there are some really racist folks that live there.
That said,
I really like the way Obama came off. His answers to Rick Warren's questions were pretty thoughtful. Dude's thinking process shows that not everything can be view in terms of black and white. Show that complex problems can't be solved with jingos.
McCain on the other hand, had responses that came off too quick and simple. And Dude had to get his military service in on questions that had no bearing on it. And don't get me started on his "stories for everything". Felt that was a defense mechanism to prevent him from handling the tougher questions.
As for Rick Warren,
Dude obviously wants to be seen as a religious power player now. Those who got on his "Purpose Driven Life" trip are starting to see the real Warren as a right-ringer. I truly don't believe the Dude to have a non-denominational bone in his body. I could be wrong. But as I stated, Dude's church is in Orange County.
That said,
I really like the way Obama came off. His answers to Rick Warren's questions were pretty thoughtful. Dude's thinking process shows that not everything can be view in terms of black and white. Show that complex problems can't be solved with jingos.
McCain on the other hand, had responses that came off too quick and simple. And Dude had to get his military service in on questions that had no bearing on it. And don't get me started on his "stories for everything". Felt that was a defense mechanism to prevent him from handling the tougher questions.
As for Rick Warren,
Dude obviously wants to be seen as a religious power player now. Those who got on his "Purpose Driven Life" trip are starting to see the real Warren as a right-ringer. I truly don't believe the Dude to have a non-denominational bone in his body. I could be wrong. But as I stated, Dude's church is in Orange County.
I'm really beginning to think your right.
Yep, they never voted for him in the primaries.
evangelical christians are OVERWHELMINGLY republican.
once again, this is not a demographic that he needs to win. they are hardcore republicans, abortion and gay marriage is all they really care about.
100 million adults don't vote because theres no reason to - democrats always move right and don't give them a reason to vote. evangelicals are a small minority. obama is going to lose this way. these crackers ain't voting for his black ass.
.....a mind is a terrible thing to waste especially when your self esteem is lo'war stories, who the fuck wants to hear four years of war stories,
we got hbo for that shyt..
he talking about the same dude that tortured him prayed together, but what he failed to add was that after they prayed, he continued to torture the living shyt outta mcpain, so the story really had no point whatsoever..
everyone is like what a profound story.. I am like.. what the fuck was they listnening to????
we got hbo for that shyt..
he talking about the same dude that tortured him prayed together, but what he failed to add was that after they prayed, he continued to torture the living shyt outta mcpain, so the story really had no point whatsoever..
everyone is like what a profound story.. I am like.. what the fuck was they listnening to????
you're white
you want me to pull out some stats on evangelical christian voting patterns? what about orange county want to discuss what kind of white folks live there and how likely they are to support a black man for president?
go re-read my post. ONE HUNDRED MILLION AMERICAN ADULTS DON'T BOTHER TO VOTE. why is that?
man..i bet he made that shit up anyway...
I saw that and at each turn he seemed like he was rushing ahead of the pastor to answer questions before the dude even asked them.
Dude, I hope you're right. Sometimes people think that Obama and his staffers are some master strategists and spin all his shortcomings and missteps into some grand plan. I don't know man. I hope Obama knows what he's doing and that the dude that made that post at DailyKos is right.
Actually this is McCains type of event. He's at his best in town hall type places where he can joke and tell stories.
BINGO!!The GOP know they can't win, especially not without the evangelicals. This was set up to make McCain look good.
I think that the greatest benefit of this non-debate will be to lull the McCain camp- and America- into a false hope that McCain will stand on his own two feet in front of a non-partisan crowd with tough, experienced debate moderators.
Don't forget, McCain was pandering (stump speech !?) to his base tonight (votes he already had), while Obama was trying to introduce himself to a subsection of voters that have generally been hostile to Democrats (votes he may steal from McCain). It is only in the understanding of this setting that you can see how the 'loser' really won, and the 'winner' really lost.
Don't forget, McCain was pandering (stump speech !?) to his base tonight (votes he already had), while Obama was trying to introduce himself to a subsection of voters that have generally been hostile to Democrats (votes he may steal from McCain). It is only in the understanding of this setting that you can see how the 'loser' really won, and the 'winner' really lost.
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