I've already stated in my previous reply that communities must vote out elected officials that condone police brutality so I haven't ignored our responsibility. Further, so much of this isn't just a local issue but a national issue because there are African Americans all over this country that don't have the numbers, support or voices heard in their communities that are being brutalized by aggressive corrupt policing. How many elected officials does it take to fix police brutality? It will take more than a elected official to address this problem. To say this can all be fixed on just a local level ignores the the historic brutality that has been committed against people of color. I'm saying Obama should speak up instead of remaining silent. Bring national attention to this issue. Police violence against black men and women in this county has become an epidemic and he needs to acknowledge it. He can show his support in helping pass tougher bills so corrupt police who violate our civil and human rights will realize that they can't hide behind their badges.
But from the tone of your reply I suppose black people are not worth consideration because Mr.President has so much more to do than worry about us?It's like telling blacks during civil rights to wait for things to gradually improve until the white folk finally come around to seeing things a better way.
waiting for all the new York dudes to say how great their city is.
Federal monitor are sent into a lot of police departments. The federal government is not geared up to handle locals cases all across this country. That is why such issues are best addressed locally. Then after such measures are exhausted. Can be taken up federally. Some of you would have the federal government take over states and the jurisdiction with in them.
I've already stated in my previous reply that communities must vote out elected officials that condone police brutality so I haven't ignored our responsibility. Further, so much of this isn't just a local issue but a national issue because there are African Americans all over this country that don't have the numbers, support or voices heard in their communities that are being brutalized by aggressive corrupt policing. How many elected officials does it take to fix police brutality? It will take more than a elected official to address this problem. To say this can all be fixed on just a local level ignores the the historic brutality that has been committed against people of color. I'm saying Obama should speak up instead of remaining silent. Bring national attention to this issue. Police violence against black men and women in this county has become an epidemic and he needs to acknowledge it. He can show his support in helping pass tougher bills so corrupt police who violate our civil and human rights will realize that they can't hide behind their badges.
But from the tone of your reply I suppose black people are not worth consideration because Mr.President has so much more to do than worry about us?It's like telling blacks during civil rights to wait for things to gradually improve until the white folk finally come around to seeing things a better way.
EXACTLY I was just about to state this same fact about the out ruling of the choke hold YEARS ago.This fool "SHOULD" be DONE! as a cop or anything else..PRISON TIME should follow for this killer..Lets SEE if this holds True in court or otherwise.NYPD banned the use of choke holds in 1993. Their patrol guide clearly states, “Members of the NYPD will NOT use choke holds. A chokehold shall include, but is not limited to, any pressure to the throat or windpipe which may prevent or hinder breathing to reduce intakes of air.” This idiot never took the time to read that part!
Working in the group home the used to give us training , once every two years, if lucky, but I can count on my hand the many of times workers did it correctly.
When shit hits the fan they became either gun ho or restrained with fear.. I wonder how much training cops get, and how seriously they take it.. Because they seem to have more issues going on when they restrain, they have fear, over zealous cops, racist cops, and cops who simply dont know what they are doing.
Often people can go years restraining the wrong way, and after a while the really believe they know more than the instructor giving the training.. All it takes is the wrong execution at the wrong time, to the wrong person and your life can become shit (not to mention they can die) this is why I took that shit very seriously.
Working in the group home the used to give us training , once every two years, if lucky, but I can count on my hand the many of times workers did it correctly.
When shit hits the fan they became either gun ho or restrained with fear.. I wonder how much training cops get, and how seriously they take it.. Because they seem to have more issues going on when they restrain, they have fear, over zealous cops, racist cops, and cops who simply dont know what they are doing.
Often people can go years restraining the wrong way, and after a while the really believe they know more than the instructor giving the training.. All it takes is the wrong execution at the wrong time, to the wrong person and your life can become shit (not to mention they can die) this is why I took that shit very seriously.
Working in the group home the used to give us training , once every two years, if lucky, but I can count on my hand the many of times workers did it correctly.
When shit hits the fan they became either gun ho or restrained with fear.. I wonder how much training cops get, and how seriously they take it.. Because they seem to have more issues going on when they restrain, they have fear, over zealous cops, racist cops, and cops who simply dont know what they are doing.
Often people can go years restraining the wrong way, and after a while the really believe they know more than the instructor giving the training.. All it takes is the wrong execution at the wrong time, to the wrong person and your life can become shit (not to mention they can die) this is why I took that shit very seriously.
Working in the group home the used to give us training , once every two years, if lucky, but I can count on my hand the many of times workers did it correctly.
When shit hits the fan they became either gun ho or restrained with fear.. I wonder how much training cops get, and how seriously they take it.. Because they seem to have more issues going on when they restrain, they have fear, over zealous cops, racist cops, and cops who simply dont know what they are doing.
Often people can go years restraining the wrong way, and after a while the really believe they know more than the instructor giving the training.. All it takes is the wrong execution at the wrong time, to the wrong person and your life can become shit (not to mention they can die) this is why I took that shit very seriously.
The training is apart of their defensive tactics training. You cannot choke someone out to restrain them.
If a mofo resisting that is the perfect time to use pepper spray.. That shit usual fold mofos up quick
These ass clowns did neither.. They are finished and when the civil suit hits them pockets gonna be cleaned out too
I was just going to ask you about pepper spray. Those dudes went wwwwwaaaayyyyyy overboard. There were numerous ways to handle that situation. The first being to leave dude alone. They knew he wasn't selling cigs at that particular moment.
The training is apart of their defensive tactics training. You cannot choke someone out to restrain them.
If a mofo resisting that is the perfect time to use pepper spray.. That shit usual fold mofos up quick
These ass clowns did neither.. They are finished and when the civil suit hits them pockets gonna be cleaned out too
No, they're still alive
Local in every hood in the United States....shit ain't local shit's pandemic!
This, this, this, this, this........Put it this way,all the black people the NYPD has killed...if they were white,there would be congressional hearings on the matter.
You can add police forces across the country...killings,abuse and all.
We have to fight back with espionage, though...The only way this going to is black folks have fight back. I mean when these cops start droping shit will change!!!
Exactly.You mean with pay.
Non violence, as we are experiencing right now, has it's limits...Bro non violence does work
Look what dr king accomplished
Agreed.The police industry needs to be uprooted and new regulations imposed.
How about a zero tolerance for killing citizens that are not armed? Termination, felony and mandatory 5 year state prison sentence?
Always talking about accountability ...let's establish some in law enforcement. All actions have consequences police can't be exempt
*shots all the way f*cking fired to Fuzzy_McNut*You're missing the point.
1- he was not selling ANY cigarettes at the time of THIS arrest.
2- he had just broken up a fight. Like a Good Samaritan.
3- These same cops had been harassing him for months. When they heard a fight had happened over the radio... They assumed he was involved when they arrived at the scene.
4- the fight was over. They had nothing else to do... So they decide to arrest someone black. But not the parties involved.
5- they pulled his old records to justify their actions. ("Blame the victim" game.)
6- then tried to say they were there to arrest HIM for selling cigs (which he was not doing) in the aftermath.
The cops were not called for someone selling 50 cent "looseys".They were called to break up a fight. So they had no 'probable cause' to detain him in the first place.
That charge is about as significant as 'jaywalking', or ripping the tags off a mattress.
Black men should not be killed for bullshit like this by the cops.
Meanwhile white men are shooting up shopping malls & schools full of women & kids with AUTOMATIC WEAPONS but are allowed to LIVE long enough to 'stand trial' and have their day in court.
Those are the folks that YOU should be lecturing about 'morals' and family values.
If a black man should be choked to death for a few cigarettes.... What exactly should happen to these white folks out here who are shooting up shopping malls?
What is your opinion on that?
What do you have to say about THEIR 'morals' and 'home training'?
Fam, this sh!t sounds great. Where in the hell do I sign up? How in the hell can we succinctly organize this? I been trying to tell ninjas this for YEARS!This is why myself and a few others here over the years have said that there needs to be some sort of massive coordinated anti-tax effort among Black People.
Local, State, Federal...
We are basically paying into a White Supremacy System to kill us off without impunity.
Any form of financial boycott would could stop (to a degree) this shit really quick.
I am so done with this shit.
Greeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaat drop!“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”
“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.
“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.
“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.
“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).
“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).
“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).
Tariq posted this on his facebook page
End of story!That was a jumping and the improper way of restraining someone, I know some of the video was edited, but was he even placed under arrest and if so why wasn't he tased (or at least warned, before engaging in physicality, isn't that why they have that shit in the first place?) so they could properly handcuff and arrest..
...and that's all folks!When a bystander asked "IS HE BREATHING?" he was already DEAD..but the PIG lied and said YES..in fact he was already dead from the time they all removed their hands from him...all the patting on the back,going through his pockets was done to give the illusion that maybe he was still alive to prevent a fucking riot. THEY ALL KNEW HE WAS DEAD! The Morgue was the one that SHOULD have been called but they knew if they had in fact done THAT it would be a dead giveaway that they had in fact just Killed a man right before everyone's eyes.This was MURDER..plain and simple.
Thats the first thing they tell you yet Ive witnessed plenty of staff members choke residents in order to restrain them..The training is apart of their defensive tactics training. You cannot choke someone out to restrain them.
If a mofo resisting that is the perfect time to use pepper spray.. That shit usual fold mofos up quick
These ass clowns did neither.. They are finished and when the civil suit hits them pockets gonna be cleaned out too
This is why myself and a few others here over the years have said that there needs to be some sort of massive coordinated anti-tax effort among Black People.
Local, State, Federal...
We are basically paying into a White Supremacy System to kill us off without impunity.
Any form of financial boycott would could stop (to a degree) this shit really quick.
I am so done with this shit.
I know one way to do it
Put pressure on the financial firms that handle police pensions.. Boycott them and any business associated with those firms and watch how losing money will make those dudes actually do their jobs right
fucking pigs
His life will be a joke, many cops who get stripped wind up as drug addicts, alcoholics and many commit suicide.And the faggot who did the chokehold waves at the camera at the end like its a fucking joke. Thats a true blue cac pig for you, I hope his life is ruined.
He was too excited to get out there and crack some black skulls. Direct violation of code of conduct results in termination at every job...or at least it should.NYPD banned the use of choke holds in 1993. Their patrol guide clearly states, “Members of the NYPD will NOT use choke holds. A chokehold shall include, but is not limited to, any pressure to the throat or windpipe which may prevent or hinder breathing to reduce intakes of air.” This idiot never took the time to read that part!