Sad, I feel bad for this mans family and I hope those pigs rot for this murder they commited!
NYPD Chokes a Man and Kills Him On Staten Island Street (Video)
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Fuzzy_McNut
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I didn't say that is all it takes. That's where you start not where you end. But like someone said what you expect the federal gov to do?
You mean with pay.
Fuzzy_McNut
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10 cops die 12 get hired.....it is a never ending line of people wanting to die for whie supremacy
Well then elaborate or stop making dismissive replies as if moral high ground will save you from police brutality. Civil rights movement already showed us non-violence and moral high ground won't stop police from brutalizing or killing you. I've already made my statement.
Fuzzy_McNut
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Nigga I never said it didn't work, I said it won't stop police from brutalizing or killing you. Now stop deflecting.
Selling cigarettes is no reason for the cops to harass and kill this man. It doesn't matter how moral or lack thereof he is, criminal offenders do have rights that need to be respected it's not up to police to decide you ultimate fate.
I knew they would suppress this soon as possible. I downloaded it I'll make a download link
And bitches like this can't understand why black people don't like police.
Helen Keller can see why we don't like police. CACs like this choose not to see ...it's called apathy
Will be likewhen one of those criminal minds situations start happening though.... Especially if it happens to the right people
The police industry needs to be uprooted and new regulations imposed.
How about a zero tolerance for killing citizens that are not armed? Termination, felony and mandatory 5 year state prison sentence?
Always talking about accountability ...let's establish some in law enforcement. All actions have consequences police can't be exempt
Fuzzy_McNut
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Ok my bad I thought you was sayin that. But he wasn't killed cuz of cigs. He didn't voluntarily put himself under arrest. You watch the video it skipped soon as he started resisting. It was edited. Why did they edit something out. .....
He resisted the moment he said dont touch me or get your hands off me
I knew they would suppress this soon as possible. I downloaded it I'll make a download link
Helen Keller can see why we don't like police. CACs like this choose not to see ...it's called apathy
The police industry needs to be uprooted and new regulations imposed.
How about a zero tolerance for killing citizens that are not armed? Termination, felony and mandatory 5 year state prison sentence?
Always talking about accountability ...let's establish some in law enforcement. All actions have consequences police can't be exempt
Thanks.
All that needs to happen. The power needs to be in check because they have only become increasingly hostile. If we can hit them hard in the pockets and intimidate with jail time they'd think twice about choking, slamming and killing citizens for minor shit. 
And that will be 12 more die.Fuck White supremacy. Black people are getting fedup with bullshit. Dont be surprise when shit starts.
Here we go again. So because he resisted arrest means it's his fault they killed him.
I'm so glad you all believe in making the cops job so easy if you don't voluntarily submit you deserve to die for it. Disgust!! Un-fucking-believable. You apologist won't learn until they kill someone close to you as you stand by gawking as they do it while telling your loved one not to resist. (I'm sure you about to say next nobody in your family would do that) You guys have just as much apathy as white people have for black suffering. Disgust!! 
You're missing the point.
1- he was not selling ANY cigarettes at the time of THIS arrest.
2- he had just broken up a fight. Like a Good Samaritan.
3- These same cops had been harassing him for months. When they heard a fight had happened over the radio... They assumed he was involved when they arrived at the scene.
4- the fight was over. They had nothing else to do... So they decide to arrest someone black. But not the parties involved.
5- they pulled his old records to justify their actions. ("Blame the victim" game.)
6- then tried to say they were there to arrest HIM for selling cigs (which he was not doing) in the aftermath.
The cops were not called for someone selling 50 cent "looseys".
They were called to break up a fight. So they had no 'probable cause' to detain him in the first place. That charge is about as significant as 'jaywalking', or ripping the tags off a mattress.
Black men should not be killed for bullshit like this by the cops.
Meanwhile white men are shooting up shopping malls & schools full of women & kids with AUTOMATIC WEAPONS but are allowed to LIVE long enough to 'stand trial' and have their day in court.
Those are the folks that YOU should be lecturing about 'morals' and family values.
If a black man should be choked to death for a few cigarettes.... What exactly should happen to these white folks out here who are shooting up shopping malls?
What is your opinion on that?
What do you have to say about THEIR 'morals' and 'home training'?
This is why myself and a few others here over the years have said that there needs to be some sort of massive coordinated anti-tax effort among Black People.
Local, State, Federal...
We are basically paying into a White Supremacy System to kill us off without impunity.
Any form of financial boycott would could stop (to a degree) this shit really quick.
I am so done with this shit.
Local, State, Federal...
We are basically paying into a White Supremacy System to kill us off without impunity.
Any form of financial boycott would could stop (to a degree) this shit really quick.
I am so done with this shit.
If you are talking Federal responsibility, you are putting this on the President when you should be looking to Congress. And before you get into Executive Orders, let me remind you that even though President Obama has signed fewer than Bush Clinton or Reagan, the House is threatening to take him to court for alleged abuses of power and uses his EOs as an excuse to say he cannot be trusted to follow the laws of this country.
Any of the initiatives you would like to see passed would need to be written into law by Congress and then signed by the President.
Police forces receive some Federal monies, primarily for the war on drugs/to militarize their swat teams etc., but get direction on tactics from their local municipality. Local police are a local issue just as state police are a state issue. Got beef w/ your local police? Hit up your town/city government for reform on recruitment and training.
Civics 101.
Fuck just losing a job...the cops should be arrested and charged.
A plainclothes NYPD cop violated department protocol by using a chokehold while handcuffing a Staten Island man who died following the arrest, Mayor de Blasio and Police Commissioner Bill Bratton said Friday.
That officer and another cop who arrested Eric Garner, 43, were both placed on desk duty following the controversial Thursday arrest, Bratton said at a press conference.
“The two officers who were engaged in the arrest of the deceased – one is an eight year veteran and the other is a four-year veteran – both officers have been assigned to desk duty pending the investigation,” Bratton said.
“There’s a very high chance that the officer who put him in a chokehold would lose his job,” said a law-enforcement source who is familiar with the investigation.
“It violates protocol. It violates a direct rule which is never to put somebody in a chokehold.”
The Staten Island District Attorney and NYPD Internal Affairs are investigating the arrest.
Police said they handcuffed the 350-pound Garner in Tompkinsville at about 3:30 p.m. yesterday because he was selling untaxed cigarettes, but witnesses told the Post that Garner was not peddling smokes and had tried to break up a fight between two people who ran off before cops arrived.
Garner died of a heart attack as an ambulance took him to Richmond University Medical Center, cops said.
Mayor de Blasio said it was too early to jump to conclusions but did say a video of the arrest was disturbing.
“It was very troubling. I watched it the same way a family member would watch it, and it was very sad to watch it,” Hizzoner said.
http://nypost.com/2014/07/18/cops-who-put-man-in-fatal-chokehold-pulled-off-the-streets/
A plainclothes NYPD cop violated department protocol by using a chokehold while handcuffing a Staten Island man who died following the arrest, Mayor de Blasio and Police Commissioner Bill Bratton said Friday.
That officer and another cop who arrested Eric Garner, 43, were both placed on desk duty following the controversial Thursday arrest, Bratton said at a press conference.
“The two officers who were engaged in the arrest of the deceased – one is an eight year veteran and the other is a four-year veteran – both officers have been assigned to desk duty pending the investigation,” Bratton said.
“There’s a very high chance that the officer who put him in a chokehold would lose his job,” said a law-enforcement source who is familiar with the investigation.
“It violates protocol. It violates a direct rule which is never to put somebody in a chokehold.”
The Staten Island District Attorney and NYPD Internal Affairs are investigating the arrest.
Police said they handcuffed the 350-pound Garner in Tompkinsville at about 3:30 p.m. yesterday because he was selling untaxed cigarettes, but witnesses told the Post that Garner was not peddling smokes and had tried to break up a fight between two people who ran off before cops arrived.
Garner died of a heart attack as an ambulance took him to Richmond University Medical Center, cops said.
Mayor de Blasio said it was too early to jump to conclusions but did say a video of the arrest was disturbing.
“It was very troubling. I watched it the same way a family member would watch it, and it was very sad to watch it,” Hizzoner said.
http://nypost.com/2014/07/18/cops-who-put-man-in-fatal-chokehold-pulled-off-the-streets/
Well thank you.
And I'm not laying this all Obama simply saying his hands can't be completely of accountability.
Putting this on Obama is completely missing the point when so much of this is a local issue. A local issue meaning something you can get involved with reforming by dealing with the people closest to you.
Going Federal and laying this at the President's feet ignores the responsibility that we have in how our local government operates. Police are a local issue. Full stop. Federal lawsuits on civil rights issues come into play because people don't make enough effort to elect local officials to change police policy and tactics.
If local politicians aren't doing their job on this how is the President supposed to change things? Congress isn't passing any laws. They are just beginning to clear the backlog of federal judicial appointments. What is the President actually supposed to do? Sending in the National Guard wouldn't help. This isn't a FEMA issue either. What are you expecting him to do that your local elected officials can't already do for you on this?
“Citizens may resist unlawful arrest to the point of taking an arresting officer's life if necessary.” Plummer v. State, 136 Ind. 306. This premise was upheld by the Supreme Court of the United States in the case: John Bad Elk v. U.S., 177 U.S. 529. The Court stated: “Where the officer is killed in the course of the disorder which naturally accompanies an attempted arrest that is resisted, the law looks with very different eyes upon the transaction, when the officer had the right to make the arrest, from what it does if the officer had no right. What may be murder in the first case might be nothing more than manslaughter in the other, or the facts might show that no offense had been committed.”
“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.
“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.
“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.
“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).
“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).
“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).
Tariq posted this on his facebook page
“An arrest made with a defective warrant, or one issued without affidavit, or one that fails to allege a crime is within jurisdiction, and one who is being arrested, may resist arrest and break away. lf the arresting officer is killed by one who is so resisting, the killing will be no more than an involuntary manslaughter.” Housh v. People, 75 111. 491; reaffirmed and quoted in State v. Leach, 7 Conn. 452; State v. Gleason, 32 Kan. 245; Ballard v. State, 43 Ohio 349; State v Rousseau, 241 P. 2d 447; State v. Spaulding, 34 Minn. 3621.
“When a person, being without fault, is in a place where he has a right to be, is violently assaulted, he may, without retreating, repel by force, and if, in the reasonable exercise of his right of self defense, his assailant is killed, he is justified.” Runyan v. State, 57 Ind. 80; Miller v. State, 74 Ind. 1.
“These principles apply as well to an officer attempting to make an arrest, who abuses his authority and transcends the bounds thereof by the use of unnecessary force and violence, as they do to a private individual who unlawfully uses such force and violence.” Jones v. State, 26 Tex. App. I; Beaverts v. State, 4 Tex. App. 1 75; Skidmore v. State, 43 Tex. 93, 903.
“An illegal arrest is an assault and battery. The person so attempted to be restrained of his liberty has the same right to use force in defending himself as he would in repelling any other assault and battery.” (State v. Robinson, 145 ME. 77, 72 ATL. 260).
“Each person has the right to resist an unlawful arrest. In such a case, the person attempting the arrest stands in the position of a wrongdoer and may be resisted by the use of force, as in self- defense.” (State v. Mobley, 240 N.C. 476, 83 S.E. 2d 100).
“One may come to the aid of another being unlawfully arrested, just as he may where one is being assaulted, molested, raped or kidnapped. Thus it is not an offense to liberate one from the unlawful custody of an officer, even though he may have submitted to such custody, without resistance.” (Adams v. State, 121 Ga. 16, 48 S.E. 910).
Tariq posted this on his facebook page
I walked up on this scene 5 mins after they took dude to the hospital. There are a whole buncha vagrants hanging on that corner all day ling selling loosies and getting in fights.
Of course there is a liquor storw 4 doors down.
I have seen dude a few times but they only bother their own.
I don't know if he was really seeling any loosies but either way he wouldn't have been the only one.
Sad shit.
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Of course there is a liquor storw 4 doors down.
I have seen dude a few times but they only bother their own.
I don't know if he was really seeling any loosies but either way he wouldn't have been the only one.
Sad shit.
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A modern day lynching...for those on this board over 50, what differences do you see between now and then, and do you think this will ever end?
A modern day lynching...for those on this board over 50, what differences do you see between now and then, and do you think this will ever end?
Someone is going to take this case easy.
Yea t hey'll take this shit on EASY. At this point its just about how much his family will get.
I've already stated in my previous reply that communities must vote out elected officials that condone police brutality so I haven't ignored our responsibility. Further, so much of this isn't just a local issue but a national issue because there are African Americans all over this country that don't have the numbers, support or voices heard in their communities that are being brutalized by aggressive corrupt policing. How many elected officials does it take to fix police brutality? It will take more than a elected official to address this problem. To say this can all be fixed on just a local level ignores the the historic brutality that has been committed against people of color. I'm saying Obama should speak up instead of remaining silent. Bring national attention to this issue. Police violence against black men and women in this county has become an epidemic and he needs to acknowledge it. He can show his support in helping pass tougher bills so corrupt police who violate our civil and human rights will realize that they can't hide behind their badges.
But from the tone of your reply I suppose black people are not worth consideration because Mr.President has so much more to do than worry about us?
It's like telling blacks during civil rights to wait for things to gradually improve until the white folk finally come around to seeing things a better way.
Exactly!
I'm laughing cuz I said the same thing. When I saw the video. When your a plain clothes cop I suppose it don't matter.
That was a jumping and the improper way of restraining someone, I know some of the video was edited, but was he even placed under arrest and if so why wasn't he tased (or at least warned, before engaging in physicality, isn't that why they have that shit in the first place?) so they could properly handcuff and arrest..
This thread has 105 views!!!! peep that. We are so used to being treated like POWs we try to stick our heads in the sand
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