Now that Wobe has fouled out...

[RunawaySlave]

Butt buddies??
Gay shit??
That's it...This conversation is OFFICIALLY beneath me
You make have the last word young man...you win
Kobe is a god

 

[RunawaySlave]

btw, the Pop Warner reference?? That was SARCASM
But I guess you only understand that if I use the little
pictures like this guy:

 

[RunawaySlave]

GOOGLE THIS​

Get your hero a copy.....he needs it

[frame]http://www.thebigo.com/TheArt/facts.html[/frame]

 

[Complex]

So you read a book to learn about basketball

 

[RunawaySlave]

Yes...in 1970

 

[cranrab]

You're so stupid and immature you're not even worthy of a reply.

simp ass bitch. but you did it anyway, cause you feel compelled to defend your boyfriend. trick.

 

[cranrab]

SIMPLE BITCH proves she's worthy of her name

BTW...to answer your question...what games has Kobe won?

Tonight...December 12th

vs Dallas on the road

Kobe...43 points

plus game winning shot

you've just outed yourself, FANboy... typical dick rider who obviously didn't watch the game... stick to highlights, because you can't comprehend the ACTUAL GAME, tinkerbell...

i DID watch the game, so i can tell you that tobe shot well (but still far too much) in the first half, going 10-17 FGA... but, shallow dick-rider, what did that yield his team? a WHOPPING 2 pt lead at halftime, and ONCE AGAIN, a game where fakers teammates WERE TAKEN OUT OF THE GAME BY THEIR OWN TEAMMATE...

LOL @ how you non-playing slugs never want to admit that...

let's continue to look at the game YOU NEVER SAW, but ONLY watched highlights of...

in the 2nd half, dim-witted as ever and arm weary to boot, tobe didn't slow down, shooting a miserable 5-16 FGA... so answer the question genius: DID TOBE'S INEFFECTUAL SHOOTING PUT THE FAKERS IN THE HOLE, OR HELP THE FAKERS WIN?

here's your PROOF, since i know you didn't SEE the game... let's see halftime, the fakers have a 2 pt lead, so how did they give up that lead, genius:

(7:22) [LAL] Bryant Turnover: Lost Ball (2 TO) Steal: Terry (2 ST)
(7:17) [LAL] Odom Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(7:17) [DAL 68-69] Terry Free Throw 1 of 2 (18 PTS)
(7:17) [DAL 69-69] Terry Free Throw 2 of 2 (19 PTS)
(7:01) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(6:59) [DAL] Daniels Rebound (Off:2 Def:2)
(6:48) [DAL 71-69] Nowitzki Jump Shot: Made (19 PTS) Assist: Griffin (1 AST)
(6:30) [LAL] Odom Jump Shot: Missed
(6:28) [DAL] Nowitzki Rebound (Off:0 Def:9)
(6:12) [DAL 73-69] Diop Reverse Layup: Made (4 PTS) Assist: Terry (2 AST)
(6:10) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(5:51) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(5:50) [DAL] Terry Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(5:50) [LAL] Odom Foul: Loose Ball (4 PF)
(5:37) [LAL] Cook Foul: Personal (4 PF)
(5:37) [LAL] Cook Substitution replaced by George
(5:32) [DAL] Daniels Layup Shot: Missed
(5:30) [LAL] S. Parker Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(5:16) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(5:15) [DAL] Nowitzki Rebound (Off:0 Def:10)
(5:07) [DAL 75-69] Diop Jump Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Terry (3 AST)
(4:47) [DAL] Griffin Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(4:47) [LAL 70-75] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (30 PTS)
(4:47) [LAL 71-75] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 (31 PTS)
(4:31) [DAL] Terry Jump Shot: Missed
(4:29) [DAL] Diop Rebound (Off:4 Def:1)
(4:29) [LAL] Bryant Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(4:14) [DAL 77-71] Nowitzki Driving Layup: Made (21 PTS)
(3:56) [LAL 73-77] Odom Layup Shot: Made (12 PTS) Assist: Mihm (1 AST)
(3:56) [DAL] Daniels Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(3:56) [LAL 74-77] Odom Free Throw 1 of 1 (13 PTS)
(3:39) [DAL] Daniels Layup Shot: Missed
(3:37) [DAL] Nowitzki Rebound (Off:1 Def:10)
(3:35) [DAL 79-74] Nowitzki Fade Away: Made (23 PTS)
(3:22) [LAL 77-79] George Jump Shot: Made (5 PTS) Assist: Odom (4 AST)
(3:11) [DAL 81-77] Daniels Layup Shot: Made (17 PTS) Assist: Terry (4 AST)
(2:54) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(2:52) [DAL] Nowitzki Rebound (Off:1 Def:11)
(2:37) [DAL] Nowitzki Jump Shot: Missed
(2:35) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(2:27) [LAL 79-81] Bryant Reverse Layup: Made (33 PTS)
(2:04) [DAL] Terry Jump Shot: Missed
(2:02) [LAL] Odom Rebound (Off:2 Def:4)
(2:00) [LAL] Odom Turnover: Bad Pass (1 TO)
(2:00) [DAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(2:00) [DAL] Terry Substitution replaced by D. Harris
(2:00) [LAL] Odom Substitution replaced by Brown
(2:00) [LAL] Mihm Substitution replaced by Walton
(2:00) [LAL] S. Parker Substitution replaced by Vujacic
(2:00) [LAL] Vujacic Foul: Inbound (2 PF)
(2:00) [DAL 82-79] D. Harris Free Throw 1 of 2 (9 PTS)
(2:00) [DAL 83-79] D. Harris Free Throw 2 of 2 (10 PTS)
(1:50) [DAL] Griffin Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(1:50) [LAL 80-83] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (34 PTS)
(1:50) [LAL] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(1:49) [DAL] Nowitzki Rebound (Off:1 Def:12)
(1:35) [DAL 85-80] Daniels Jump Shot: Made (19 PTS)
(1:18) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(1:16) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:2 Def:2)
(1:15) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(1:13) [LAL] Walton Rebound (Off:1 Def:0)
(1:09) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(1:07) [DAL] Griffin Rebound (Off:3 Def:1)
(0:52) [DAL] Nowitzki Turnaround Jump: Missed
(0:50) [LAL] Walton Rebound (Off:1 Def:1)
(0:42) [LAL 82-85] Brown Layup Shot: Made (6 PTS) Assist: Bryant (2 AST)
(0:23) [DAL 87-82] D. Harris Jump Shot: Made (12 PTS)
(0:00) [LAL] George Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [LAL] Team Rebound
(0:00) End Period

WOW! a tobe is a 1 man wrecking crew! OF THE FAKERS, that is... guess that pokes holes in your pathetic estimations and uneducated opinions... still care to use this game as your example of when tobe won a game? look more to me like tobe is the player who SINGLE HANDEDLY put the fakers OUT of the game and put the mavericks IN THE LEAD...

no double, tobe FANboys will try to backtrack now, and say but tobe's the reason why the fakers pulled out the W... more laughable myth building from his girlfriends as we look at the ACTUAL Q4 (since you didn't watch it)...

4th Period
(11:42) [LAL] Profit Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(11:32) [DAL] Daniels Jump Shot: Missed
(11:30) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:2)
(11:20) [LAL 84-87] Brown Hook Shot: Made (8 PTS) Assist: Odom (5 AST)
(11:05) [DAL] D. Harris Jump Shot: Missed
(11:02) [LAL] Odom Rebound (Off:2 Def:5)
(10:44) [LAL] George Layup Shot: Missed
(10:41) [DAL] Diop Rebound (Off:4 Def:2)
(10:34) [DAL 89-84] Griffin Jump Shot: Made (4 PTS) Assist: D. Harris (1 AST)
(10:20) [LAL] Profit Turnover: Lost Ball (1 TO) Steal: D. Harris (1 ST)
(10:20) [LAL] Vujacic Foul: Loose Ball (3 PF)
(10:20) [DAL] Griffin Substitution replaced by Terry
(10:02) [DAL] Powell Layup Shot: Missed
(10:00) [LAL] Brown Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(9:47) [LAL 86-89] Profit Layup Shot: Made (6 PTS)
(9:28) [DAL] Powell Turnover: 3 Second Violation (1 TO)
(9:13) [LAL] Profit Jump Shot: Missed
(9:11) [DAL] Powell Rebound (Off:0 Def:1)
(9:08) [LAL] Profit Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(9:08) [DAL 90-86] D. Harris Free Throw 1 of 2 (13 PTS)
(9:08) [DAL 91-86] D. Harris Free Throw 2 of 2 (14 PTS)
(8:56) [DAL] Powell Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(8:56) Timeout: Official
(8:56) [DAL] Powell Substitution replaced by Nowitzki
(8:56) [LAL 87-91] Odom Free Throw 1 of 2 (14 PTS)
(8:56) [LAL 88-91] Odom Free Throw 2 of 2 (15 PTS)
(8:36) [DAL] Terry Jump Shot: Missed
(8:33) [LAL] Odom Rebound (Off:2 Def:6)
(8:28) [LAL] Odom Turnover: Bad Pass (2 TO)
(8:12) [DAL] D. Harris Jump Shot: Missed
(8:10) [LAL] Odom Rebound (Off:2 Def:7)
(7:56) [LAL 90-91] George Jump Shot: Made (7 PTS)
(7:28) [DAL] Nowitzki Jump Shot: Missed
(7:26) [DAL] Daniels Rebound (Off:3 Def:2)
(7:15) [LAL] Profit Foul: Personal (4 PF)
(7:15) [LAL] Profit Substitution replaced by Bryant

@ YOU, SIMPLE BITCH... let's recap, shall we? fakers enter Q4 trailing the mavericks DUE TO TOBE'S INEFFECTUAL PLAY (proven fact above, not lovelorn opinion of queers like you) and the RESERVES battle back WITHOUT tobe on the floor... havoc, THIS IS HISTORICALLY PROVEN +/-...

tobe subs in, and look what happens:

(7:05) [DAL] Nowitzki Layup Shot: Missed
(7:03) [LAL] Brown Rebound (Off:0 Def:4)
(6:51) [LAL] Odom Foul: Offensive (5 PF)
(6:51) [LAL] Odom Turnover: Foul (3 TO)
(6:51) [LAL] Odom Substitution replaced by Walton
(6:40) [DAL 93-90] D. Harris Driving Layup: Made (16 PTS)
(6:17) [LAL] George Jump Shot: Missed
(6:16) [DAL] Nowitzki Rebound (Off:1 Def:13)
(6:08) [DAL] Nowitzki Jump Shot: Missed
(6:04) [LAL] Walton Rebound (Off:1 Def:2)
(5:56) [LAL] Bryant Layup Shot: Missed
(5:54) [DAL] Nowitzki Rebound (Off:1 Def:14)
(5:49) [DAL 95-90] Daniels Driving Layup: Made (21 PTS)
(5:27) [LAL] Bryant Layup Shot: Missed Block: Daniels (1 BLK)
(5:25) [DAL] D. Harris Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(5:23) [LAL] Walton Foul: Shooting (1 PF)
(5:23) [DAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(5:23) [LAL] Vujacic Substitution replaced by S. Parker
(5:23) [DAL] Nowitzki Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(5:23) [DAL] Team Rebound
(5:23) [DAL 96-90] Nowitzki Free Throw 2 of 2 (24 PTS)
(5:07) [LAL 92-96] Bryant Layup Shot: Made (36 PTS)
(5:07) [DAL] Diop Violation: Defensive Goaltending
(4:45) [DAL] Daniels Jump Shot: Missed
(4:43) [LAL] Bryant Rebound (Off:2 Def:3)
(4:30) [LAL 94-96] Walton Driving Layup: Made (2 PTS) Assist: Brown (3 AST)
(4:05) [LAL] George Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(4:05) [DAL 97-94] Terry Free Throw 1 of 2 (20 PTS)
(4:05) [DAL] Terry Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(4:04) [LAL] Walton Rebound (Off:1 Def:3)
(3:53) [DAL] D. Harris Foul: Personal (2 PF)
(3:43) [LAL] George Jump Shot: Missed
(3:41) [LAL] Walton Rebound (Off:2 Def:3)
(3:30) [LAL 97-97] Bryant Jump Shot: Made (39 PTS) Assist: S. Parker (4 AST)

so SIMPLE BITCH, is THIS what you were referring to by tobe WINNING a game? 2 FGs (1 off of a goaltend) means tobe won a game? yeah, you're a scholar...

but wait cakeboy, your boyfriend still had 3+ minutes to prove me wrong and give you a wet dream:

(3:16) [LAL] George Foul: Personal (4 PF)
(3:16) [DAL] Nowitzki Free Throw 1 of 2 missed
(3:16) [DAL] Team Rebound
(3:16) [DAL 98-97] Nowitzki Free Throw 2 of 2 (25 PTS)
(2:52) [LAL] Bryant Jump Shot: Missed
(2:50) [LAL] Walton Rebound (Off:3 Def:3)
(2:42) [LAL 99-98] Brown Driving Layup: Made (10 PTS)

more +/- for you, havoc

(2:23) [LAL] George Foul: Shooting (5 PF)
(2:23) [LAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(2:23) [DAL] D. Harris Substitution replaced by Griffin
(2:23) [DAL 99-99] Daniels Free Throw 1 of 2 (22 PTS)
(2:23) [DAL 100-99] Daniels Free Throw 2 of 2 (23 PTS)
(2:13) [LAL] Walton Layup Shot: Missed Block: Diop (1 BLK)
(2:11) [DAL] Diop Rebound (Off:4 Def:3)
(1:56) [LAL] S. Parker Foul: Shooting (4 PF)
(1:56) [DAL 101-99] Nowitzki Free Throw 1 of 2 (26 PTS)
(1:56) [LAL] Walton Substitution replaced by Odom
(1:56) [DAL 102-99] Nowitzki Free Throw 2 of 2 (27 PTS)
(1:42) [LAL] George Jump Shot: Missed
(1:40) [LAL] Odom Rebound (Off:3 Def:7)
(1:22) [LAL 101-102] Brown Layup Shot: Made (12 PTS)
(1:01) [DAL] Terry Layup Shot: Missed
(0:59) [LAL] Odom Rebound (Off:3 Def:8)

so maybe THIS is what SIMPLE BITCH referred to:

(0:34) [LAL 104-102] Bryant Fade Away: Made (42 PTS)

tobe made a shot from distance here that hit nothing but net... OH I SEE, tobe supporters equate ONE DIFFICULT SHOT with greatness... i understand, tobe supporters in their infinite ignorance of basketball absolve tobe's of GARBAGE game if he manages to make 1 moon shot...

but i digress... let's continue:

(0:34) [DAL] Team Timeout: Regular
(0:34) [DAL] Griffin Substitution replaced by D. Harris
(0:27) [DAL] Diop Layup Shot: Missed Block: Bryant (1 BLK)
(0:27) [DAL] Diop Rebound (Off:5 Def:3)
(0:27) [LAL] Brown Foul: Shooting (3 PF)
(0:27) [DAL 103-104] Diop Free Throw 1 of 2 (7 PTS)
(0:27) [DAL] Diop Free Throw 2 of 2 missed
(0:25) [LAL] George Rebound (Off:0 Def:3)
(0:22) [DAL] Daniels Foul: Personal (4 PF)
(0:18) [DAL] Nowitzki Foul: Personal (3 PF)
(0:18) [LAL 105-103] Bryant Free Throw 1 of 2 (43 PTS)
(0:18) [LAL] Brown Substitution replaced by Walton
(0:18) [LAL] Bryant Free Throw 2 of 2 missed

what? you mean mr. super clutch WASN'T actually the player who ICED the game?

(0:16) [LAL] Walton Rebound (Off:4 Def:3)
(0:16) [DAL] Terry Foul: Personal (1 PF)
(0:16) [LAL 106-103] Walton Free Throw 1 of 2 (3 PTS)
(0:16) [LAL 107-103] Walton Free Throw 2 of 2 (4 PTS)

wasn't that tobe? naw it was white boy luke walton, one of those miserable lesser players who need tobe to win...

(0:08) [DAL 106-107] D. Harris Jump Shot: Made (19 PTS) Assist: Terry (5 AST)
(0:05) [DAL] Nowitzki Foul: Personal (4 PF)
(0:05) [LAL 108-106] S. Parker Free Throw 1 of 2 (4 PTS)
(0:05) [DAL] Diop Substitution replaced by Griffin
(0:05) [LAL 109-106] S. Parker Free Throw 2 of 2 (5 PTS)

wasn't that tobe? naw it that dude with the funny first name, another one of those miserable lesser players who need tobe to win...

(0:00) [DAL] Terry Jump Shot: Missed
(0:00) [DAL] Daniels Rebound (Off:4 Def:2)
(0:00) End Period

so there's your PROOF... proof that you're what i've called you out as ALL DAY LONG... a typical bitch boy who catches feelings over tobe, and tries haplessly to defend a MYTH...

sorry to burst your bubble, but the fakers won that game IN SPITE OF tobe, not BECAUSE of him...

 

[cranrab]

multiple personality poster

Also you left out Kobe's block, in which the other player missed a free throw.

C, i give credit where credit is due. tobe DID make a nice CLEAN block on the ball on that play.

Also you missed the plays he made to bring them back, since they were behind at first.

but SIMPLE BITCH, you are a outright liar for that one... WHAT PLAYS DID TOBE MAKE TO BRING THE FAKERS BACK? AS PROVEN ABOVE, TOBE IS THE SOLE REASON THE FAKERS WERE BEHIND TO BEGIN WITH...

 

[cranrab]

these twinkies are delirious!

The fact that the Lakers were a 6th seeded team in the west before Kobe got injured last year, and preceeded to drop out of the playoff race altogether. Yeah they had a winning record without him

god bless tobe and fakers fans, 'cause even though they're dumb as dirt, they're still (mostly gay) people too...

[sighs once again at having to insert the TRUTH once again to dispel more MYTHS and LIES]

SB, i'll take your word (though i don't know why i should) that the fakers were 6th seed in the western conference when tobe was 'injured', but his absence was most certainly NOT why the fakers failed...

during tobe's 'injury' the fakers W/L was 7-8, which wasn't poor enough to knock the fakers out of playoff contention...

MAYBE, JUST MAYBE the fakers nosedive had something to do with going 5-11 in march, and 1-11 in april WELL AFTER TOBE HAD RETURNED...

but i know FACTS and PROOF are lost on you, and to you, tobe is beyond reproach, and that tobe had absolutely NOTHING to do with the fakers going 6-22 down the stretch...

you're sad, pathetic and pitiful...

but god bless you anyway... keep hope alive

 

[cranrab]

Kobe had a fake injury? Did you see the play he got injured on

He missed 18 games, because of a "fake" injury

you're right to put a after those statements... tobe may have sustained an injury, but it wasn't serious enough to NOT play... like the bitch made whiny punk he is, tobe sat out those games in protest against his role in coach tomjanovich's system...

did you forget that coach tomjanovich 'resigned' IN THE MIDDLE of tobe's absence?

and for the record, it was 15 games, NOT 18, so stop with the bullshit... tobe had 2 additional DNPs in april (does ectopic pregnancy mean anything to you?)... so much for your FACTS...

 

[cranrab]

to shoot or not to shoot... the ousting of coach tomjanovich

let's start fresh... this thread began on an entirely different subject, but has taken on tangents in several directions...

let's look at the FACTS regarding the coach tomjanovich's resignation, tobe's alleged injury, and the destruction of the fakers organization last year...

timeline, november:

after a productive (albeit meaningless) and solid 6-2 preseason, the fakers looked forward to a new season with a proven coach who had won championships and collected a CAREER winning coaching record.

in preparation for the 2004-05 season, coach tomjanovich designed an O with tobe in mind, seeking to accomodate the often childish and always unprofessional loser...

while the other veterans acted professionally and worked to absorb the new O, tobe bristled, uncomfortable in realizing that the new O operated outside the comfort zone of the triangle O... god forbid that the team primadonna would have to learn to try something new... what would happen?

SURPRISE! the fakers went 9-6... the new coach and the new team WORKED! but there was trouble in fakersland, because tobe wasn't happy, and neither was coach tomjanovich... you see, even though the fakers were winning, tobe wasn't happy... in the fakers Ws, tobe was only averaging about 17.5 FGAs... the ego driven primadonna wanted more FGAs, even if it meant disrupting the team... in the fakers Ls, tobe averaged 23.8 FGAs...

PROOF THAT WHEN TOBE is shooting more FGAs = losses, shooting less FGAs = wins

timeline december:

coach tomjanovich, being a professional, mistakenly assumed that tobe was also a professional... that was not the coach's gravest error... you see, coach tomjanovich also mistakenly assumed that tobe was an INTELLIGENT player... coach tomjanovich would not survive that mistake...

coach tomjanovich loosened the reins on tobe, hoping his teammates would be able to sell tobe on the efficiency of the new system, but they were no match for the primadonna... tobe averaged slightly more than 22 FGAs in the month of december...

OF COURSE, the fakers record suffered, as they struggled to post a 6-6 record in december...

timeline, january:

coach tomjanovich had endured as much as he could. coach tomjanovich had tried being patient with the immature dimwit adored by thousands of mindless sheep... coach tomjanovich tried time and again to explain the PROPER way to play the system that he had introduced in november. the WINNING system that had WORKED in november...

tobe, ever the spoiled buffoon, refused to learn, and could not tolerate any more of coach tomjanovich's lessons... so after the fakers went 3-3 in january (during which he averaged 20+ FGAs) tobe decided to use the first available opportunity (jan 12) to sit out in protest...

what tobe didn't know, and could NEVER expect, was that the rest of the fakers were PROFESSIONALS who understood and embraced coach tomjanovich's philosophy. you see, the fakers WITHOUT TOBE went 6-4 under coach tomjanovich...

timeline february:

but it was too late, the die had been cast... coach tomjanovich's fate had already been sealed... even though the fakers had posted THEIR FIRST WINNING RECORD SINCE NOVEMBER, dr. buss couldn't stand the thought of paying his prized media darling TO NOT be on the floor...

so coach tomjanovich 'resigned', and coach hamblen took over... tobe had played his trump card, exposed himself as a cancer, and destroyed any hope of the fakers BECOMING A TEAM. tobe had held the franchise hostage, and demanded the return of the triangle O, where he stupidly believed he could get his shine...

tobe must've forgotten that his teammates hadn't spent the past handful of seasons practicing the triangle, let alone training camp or the preseason... it was WRONG for the organization to ask the players to adopt the triangle mid-season, but the fakers were eager to acquiesce to their pseudo star...

AND IT SHOWED... the fakers, in contention for a playoff spot, and who had NOT posted a losing record to that point, went 1-4 under the coach hamblem's new system without tobe...

tobe returned, miraculously cured of his FINGER injury, and knew he had some fences to mend... tobe's fakers teammates were upset over what had transpired, and lines were drawn... tobe had pouted and threw a tantrum to get his way, and teammates saw him in his true light...

tobe didn't take long to take advantage of coach tomjanovich's absence... the fakers were 3-4 the remainder of the month... in the 3 Ws, tobe averaged 16.3 FGAs... in the 4 Ls, tobe averaged 19 FGAs...

PROOF THAT WHEN TOBE IS shooting more FGAs = losses, shooting fewer FGAs = wins

timeline march:

the downward spiral continued... the fakers were an unhealthy and unhappy combination of players, going 5-11 in march...

timeline april:

their spirit gone, the fakers were a rotting carcass dealt a fatal blow by tobe's antics... the fakers went 1-10 in april...

i challenge any of you pretentious fakes to challenge the numbers and statistics provided in the timeline...

keep trying simps, GAME OVER...

 

[Complex]

Yeah his 43 points, 4 steals and block didn't contribute to the win at all

You even included him being able to rest for the first time all game, as if that means something. Also if you watched the game...why are you recapping it using box scores? Why don't you also take the effort to post the first half. You know here they gained a lead, from him shooting so much. So you proved how he goes, that's how the Lakers go right? He made most of his shots and they were leading. He got cold, and they got behind. What did he score in the first half....27? They had the lead right?

Look little ass immature faggot.

I already showed you the Lakers aren't better without him. They're .500 regardless.

I already showed you they win just as much when he shoots 30 times.

@you knowing how serious his injury was. So how many games will Ganiboli miss...you're a psychic doctor right?

Also do you take the effort to break down every players game? That seems just a tad bit disturbed and obsessive.

 

[Complex]

:lol@You posting 4 straight post about Kobe and typing a fuckin term paper. Who do you think is going to read your long winded obsessive shit

Get a life fucker and get off dudes dick

I already posted how Kobe's shot over 30, 9 times this season and they are 5-4 in those games

 

[cranrab]

now extend your thinking, punk ass

Yeah his 43 points, 4 steals and block didn't contribute to the win at all

time for you to become a man, little child...

i know box score chasers and espn highlight watchers like yourself just look at aggregate statistics without understanding the game, so ask yourself this:

what cost/penalty occurred as a result of tobe's 18 MISSED FGAs?
what cost/penalty occurred as a result of tobe's TO's?

and since you only read box scores, what about the plays that DON'T end up published there, twinkie?

what cost/penalty occurred as a result of tobe's inability to PLAY D?
noticed you never mentioned marquis daniels' performance... but then, you couldn't, because you didn't watch...

You even included him being able to rest for the first time all game, as if that means something.

@ this illiterate fairy!!! you ARE sad... damn, i love my brothers (assuming you are one), but RIF!!! you OBVIOUSLY don't realize that i highlighted that substitution to show that TOBE WASN'T EVEN ON THE FLOOR WHEN THE RESERVES got the fakers back into the game?

Also if you watched the game...why are you recapping it using box scores?

again, RIF... FYI, that's called a play by play, NOT a box score... and i do provide play by plays FOR YOUR BENEFIT... because your tobe obsession requires PROOF, so i provide OBJECTIVE PROOF from an OFFICIAL source... unlike you have, with your bullshit you pretend to be truth...

Why don't you also take the effort to post the first half.

what for? it was a 2 pt lead that i already accurately reported... pretty sad to have only a 2 pt lead with a player going 10-17, huh? maybe you don't understand that if ALL FIVE PLAYERS work together and are involved, they can build a substantial lead and play from ahead in the 2nd half...

He got cold, and they got behind.

again emphasizing the reason WHY good teams get all their players involved early... so that ONE cold player doesn't jeopardize the outcome...

you knowing how serious his injury was.

ok genius, so how many NBA players in the HISTORY OF THE LEAGUE have missed 15 games (or more) to a similar FINGER 'injury'? we won't hold our breath waiting for you...

how many squads with a WINNING RECORD have had their head coach resign RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE of that 'injury'? we won't hold our breath waiting for you...

Also do you take the effort to break down every players game?

i apply the same effort to them all... it's a simple task to do that for a game that has been very good to me...

if you had any extended experience in organized basketball, you might be able to do it too...

BTW, all of them don't need to be broken down, only the players whose game is built on MYTH and NOT truth...

 

[cranrab]

stay in school

:lol@You posting 4 straight post about Kobe and typing a fuckin term paper.

term paper? you just outed yourself again... what adult talks about term papers like they're back in school? go change your huggies, freshman...

Who do you think is going to read your long winded obsessive shit

certainly not internet cowards like you, who are afraid of the truth... thanks, i like it when simps fear me... you don't have the INTELLECT, KNOWLEDGE, EXPERIENCE, OR FACTS to refute that post you called a 'term paper'...

Get a life fucker and get off dudes dick

again, god bless you precious little queers in tobe's fan club... COME BACK TO REALITY, cupcake... i see you got like 10 posts IN THIS THREAD in like what, LESS THAN 24 HOURS? man, them HIV cocktails got you shook, son...

 

[cranrab]

can't touch this...

the fakers can manage/tolerate < 10 of tobe's FGATOs, but if he has > 25 FGAs, the team is going to suffer and lose... PERIOD...

H,

since you've demonstrated an ability to read and comprehend english, i'll direct this to you...

above is my quote from a post IN THIS THREAD dated 12/8... i now i provide UP TO THE MINUTE PROOF of this FACT... not opinion, not theory, PLAIN FACT.

take a look at the fakers performance in relation to tobe's FGAs in november:

tobe averaged almost 29.5 FGAs in november... the fakers record suffered accordingly, as the fakers posted a LOSING record of 5-8...

in ALL 5 wins, tobe attempted > 25 FGAs... the average margin of victory was 9 pts

in 7 of 8 LOSSES, tobe attempted > 25 FGAs... the average margin of loss was less than 6 pts

compare that with the fakers performance in relation to tobe's FGAs in december:

tobe has averaged < 25 FGAs the entire month... the fakers record rose accordingly, as the fakers posted a WINNING record of 7-2...

in 4 of the 7 Ws, tobe took < 25 FGAs... in those games, the margin of victory was an impressive 14.5 pts

in the remaining 3 Ws, tobe took > 25 FGAs... in those games, the margin of victory was LESS THAN 3 pts...

quite an obvious difference, no?

conclusion PROVEN BY FACT:

in games where tobe has < 25 FGAs, the fakers are FAR MORE EFFECTIVE and post LARGER margins of victory than in games when tobe has > 25 FGAs...

furthermore, while IT IS POSSIBLE for the fakers to win games when tobe has > 25 FGAs, the margin of victory is FAR SMALLER than when tobe has < 25 FGAs...

who else has made a prediction and had it bourne out by the facts?

 

[Complex]

Re: stay in school

Fear you? I feel sorry for you. You're a pathetic sorry ass excuse for a man who's life is dedicated to "hating" on a player like a bitch.

I'm not going to even continue going back and forth with you. Becuse you'd go back to 8 years ago to try to prove some kind of point. You flip flop between this year and last. You don't even have a point, other than you don't like him and you'll try and do anything to discredit his game. You don't have a life and what little you have, is dedicated to Kobe.

You also need to learn the difference in a fact and opinion. Your post was about as factual as Bill O'Reilly's. Where did you get that from hoopshype? CNNSI? Maybe one day you can refute you not having a life and looking like a nut being this obsessed over Kobe. Do you keep a daily journal dedicated to Kobe...lol

Ok, time for me to stop arguing with fools

Anyway another game Kobe plays...another win

You saw that too right? Naw, let me guess you tivoed it

 

[cranrab]

Re: stay in school

You flip flop between this year and last.

i've never changed my position once. tobe has, does, and will suck because he is a euro dullard with beaucoup homosexuals such as yourself on his nuts.

Ok, time for me to stop arguing with fools

that's right sissy, run along and go play with dolls... life is much simpler for obtuse individuals who draw illogical inferences with no causation... your quote below couldn't have illustrated it any better:

Anyway another game Kobe plays...another win

come back and join the discussion when you're grown (or not toking the blunt), sammy... you might learn something when you stop pretending that you know what you're talking about...

 

[cranrab]

ho-hum, more NON proof...

MYTH

tobe shoots more FGAs because his teammates are ineffectual

TRUTH

his teammates are ineffectual because tobe shoots more FGAs

if you can read, here is another worthless hater who doesn't know about basketball

"[tobe] was just taking some bad shots. He knew it," Magic Johnson said. "There were shots that normally you've got to kick that ball, rotate it.

if you can read, earvin johnson DIDN'T say tobe took TOO MANY SHOTS, he said he took BAD shots... learn the difference...

"When the Lakers started playing well on this (trip), you saw Kobe was taking his shot and then giving that shot to Lamar (Odom) and the other guys. "He realizes he needs those guys to play well for the Lakers to win."

ah, so simply stated, but tobe supporters still don't understand a common TRUTH about organized basketball: reduce FGAs to increase teammate touches, which in turn will lead to increased participation and easier scores.

MYTH

tobe shot more FGAs because his teammates needed to 'step up'

TRUTH

tobe's increased FGAs hijacked the O, preventing teammates from becoming involved

1 more thing... runaway slave pointed out earlier in this thread that smush parker and chris mihm were making strong contributions... simple bitch scoffed at that idea...

let's see what coach jackson had to say about that... coach jackson must be a know nothing hater too:

Odom, the only other top player on the team, was expected to contribute. But Jackson also has been getting surprisingly strong play from the likes of Smush Parker and Chris Mihm.

"Our bench has helped us," Jackson said. "We're shooting the ball well because the ball is moving. Our players are developing better chemistry. This team has confidence and can play with anyone."

@ the pretenders

 

[RunawaySlave]

ah, so simply stated, but tobe supporters still don't understand a common TRUTH about organized basketball: reduce FGAs to increase teammate touches, which in turn will lead to increased participation and easier scores

Have the same damn problem with these Knick fans. They SWEAR
Marbury ain't the problem. They'll point to his 7 or so assists and
use that stat to say that he isn't unselfish. Not realizing that 8
assists isn't really all that much for someone who dominates the
ball handling the way Marbury does

I remember another famous chucker who used to always lead his
team in assists. Reggie Theus. He'd be an all star in today's game

 

[xfactor]

:lol@You posting 4 straight post about Kobe and typing a fuckin term paper. Who do you think is going to read your long winded obsessive shit

Damn, not only does he fail to comprehend on the court but he also fails to comprehend what he reads in the thread.

Have the same damn problem with these Knick fans. They SWEAR
Marbury ain't the problem. They'll point to his 7 or so assists and
use that stat to say that he isn't unselfish. Not realizing that 8
assists isn't really all that much for someone who dominates the
ball handling the way Marbury does
I remember another famous chucker who used to always lead his
team in assists. Reggie Theus. He'd be an all star in today's game

Ya know? I never understood the (if a guy gets assists he's obviously an unselfish player theory) just like the (if a guy gets steals he's obviously a top flight defender thoery)

By the way... isnt Theus still an assistant at Louisville?

 

[cranrab]

i don't know where he is now...

but reggie theus is the pretty boy that used to share time with the same white whore as earvin johnson... and yes, it was during AND after the HIV retirement...

if you ever see news footage of the opening of the magic johnson theaters, you'll see her standing in the background, because cookie stayed in hawaii...

earvin johnson and reggie theus used to keep this long haired blonde woman on the side (unbeknownst to each other): paid apartment, cash, clothes...

every time i used to see him announcing games on fox sports i couldn't help chuckling...

 

[Havoc]

Re: ho-hum, more NON proof...

MYTH

tobe shoots more FGAs because his teammates are ineffectual

TRUTH

his teammates are ineffectual because tobe shoots more FGAs

if you can read, here is another worthless hater who doesn't know about basketball

"[tobe] was just taking some bad shots. He knew it," Magic Johnson said. "There were shots that normally you've got to kick that ball, rotate it.

if you can read, earvin johnson DIDN'T say tobe took TOO MANY SHOTS, he said he took BAD shots... learn the difference...

"When the Lakers started playing well on this (trip), you saw Kobe was taking his shot and then giving that shot to Lamar (Odom) and the other guys. "He realizes he needs those guys to play well for the Lakers to win."

ah, so simply stated, but tobe supporters still don't understand a common TRUTH about organized basketball: reduce FGAs to increase teammate touches, which in turn will lead to increased participation and easier scores.

MYTH

tobe shot more FGAs because his teammates needed to 'step up'

TRUTH

tobe's increased FGAs hijacked the O, preventing teammates from becoming involved

1 more thing... runaway slave pointed out earlier in this thread that smush parker and chris mihm were making strong contributions... simple bitch scoffed at that idea...

let's see what coach jackson had to say about that... coach jackson must be a know nothing hater too:

Odom, the only other top player on the team, was expected to contribute. But Jackson also has been getting surprisingly strong play from the likes of Smush Parker and Chris Mihm.

"Our bench has helped us," Jackson said. "We're shooting the ball well because the ball is moving. Our players are developing better chemistry. This team has confidence and can play with anyone."

@ the pretenders

We'll just agree that it's simply an opinion when it comes to Kobe's shooting and the Lakers' wins, although I maintain that the number of shots he takes isn't nearly as important (although the bad shots obviously make a huge difference) as the number his teammates make. Phil Jackson does not have a problem taking Kobe out of the game, so he must understand or acknowledge the fact that the Lakers lack solid role playing. However, in recent games, there has been a spark of hope for Lakers' fans, as Smush, Mihm, Brown, and Odom have all put up some unusual numbers (in the sense that we probably won't see them anymore this season lol).

I got lost in this thread, but needless to say, all eyes will be on the Lakers come December 25, 2005. I think it'll be a great day for the NBA business-wise, and I hope everyone watches both games (something tells me that the Lakers vs. Miami will get more viewers :|).

 

[RunawaySlave]

Re: i don't know where he is now...

but reggie theus is the pretty boy that used to share time with the same white whore as earvin johnson... and yes, it was during AND after the HIV retirement...

I bet ALOT of NBA ballas shared time with the same white
whores. Maybe more before Magic's retirement though
Damn, it was too bad Theus didn't share Magic's knowledge
of running an offense too Maybe the Nets and Bulls
would of won a few more games while he was there
He may not have won too many games, but one thing he's
got in common with ya boi....he ALWAYS got "his"

 

[Complex]

Re: i don't know where he is now...

Hmmmm...62 points win, 13 shots and 24 points...loss

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Two nights after a most annoying loss, Kobe Bryant took out his anger and frustration on the poor Dallas Mavericks.

Bryant was at his incredible best Tuesday night, scoring a career-high 62 points in just three quarters to lead the Los Angeles Lakers to a 112-90 victory over the Mavericks.

The 27-year-old Bryant, who brought a 31.3-point average into the game, shot 18-of-31, including 4-of-10 from 3-point range, and made 22 of 25 foul shots while playing only 33 minutes.

When he left the game, he had outscored the Mavericks by himself, 62-61.

"I was so frustrated by the loss the other night I was going to will us to victory," Bryant said, referring to a 76-74 loss to the Houston Rockets. Bryant scored 24 points in that game -- a total he matched in the first 161/2 minutes against the Mavericks.

"I was very angry, I felt like I wanted to come out and send a message, that we're going to dominate at home," he said. "We're going to hit you, we're going to bring it to you. I wanted to send that message."

Message received.

"We had no answer for him," Mavericks coach Avery Johnson said. "We tried to double-team him, we tried to zone him, we tried to trap him in the backcourt, and nothing worked. He had his way with us tonight."

Bryant scored 15 points in the first quarter, 17 in the second, and a franchise-record 30 in the third before taking a seat for good with the Lakers leading 95-61.

"I just felt like I could continue to attack these guys," Bryant said. "It was just determination, take it to them. It's definitely the best scoring game I've ever had."

The previous Lakers record for points in a quarter was 24 shared by Bryant and Hall of Famers Jerry West and Elgin Baylor.

The NBA record for points in a quarter is 33 by George Gervin for San Antonio in 1978. Denver's David Thompson scored 32 in a quarter the same season, and Wilt Chamberlain scored 31 in a quarter for Philadelphia in 1962, when he set the single-game NBA record with 100 points.

Baylor scored a franchise-record 71 points on Nov. 15, 1960, at New York. Bryant's total is the sixth-highest in club history and the most for the Lakers since Chamberlain scored 66 at Phoenix on Feb. 9, 1969.

The capacity crowd of 18,997 began chanting, "We want Kobe! We want Kobe!" early in the final period, but with the Lakers holding an insurmountable lead, there was no need for coach Phil Jackson to put the 6-foot-6 star back into the game.

"We wanted to win the game, the game was in the bag, it was in the refrigerator," Bryant said. "There was no reason for me to go back in."

Bryant matched his previous career high of 56 points by making two free throws with 1:02 left in the third quarter. He went on to score six more points in the period, capping his amazing night by making a long 3-pointer with 4.4 seconds left.

As the period ended -- after Los Angeles had outscored Dallas 42-17 -- Bryant held a hand to his ear, and the volume increased even more. Bryant then called it a night.

"It's a great feeling, to do it here at Staples Center in front of our fans -- kind of an early Christmas present to them," Bryant said.

Bryant became the first NBA player to reach 60 points since Philadelphia's Allen Iverson scored 60 in a 112-99 victory over Orlando last February.

His total was the highest in Staples Center history, surpassing the 61 points Shaquille O'Neal scored against the Clippers on March 6, 2000 -- O'Neal's 28th birthday.

"I've seen a few 60-point ballgames in my time, but none of them had been done by the third quarter," said Jackson, who coached Michael Jordan in Chicago. "His 30-point third quarter was incredible."

Bryant reached the 50-point plateau for the sixth time in his career, and the first since March 28, 2003, against Washington. Cleveland's LeBron James had the previous single-game high this season with 52 points on Dec. 10.

Nobody else scored in double figures for the Lakers (14-11), who won for the eighth time in 10 games. The loss was just the second in 10 games for the Mavericks (18-7). The other defeat was a 109-106 setback to the Lakers on Dec. 12 in Dallas, when Bryant scored 43 points.

Dirk Nowitzki had 18 points and 11 rebounds to lead the Mavericks. Like Bryant, he sat out the fourth quarter. Devin Harris also scored 18 for Dallas before fouling out with 3:15 to play.

Johnson said before the game he would use "the whole team" to guard Bryant, and several different Dallas players gave it a go with very little success.

Johnson was ejected after being hit with two technical fouls early in the third quarter.

Steve Javie called technicals on Johnson and Nowitzki with 10:16 left in the period after Nowitzki was inadvertently struck in the face by Bryant, but was called for a foul.

Johnson picked up his second technical 21/2 minutes later, leaving with the Mavericks trailing 68-50. Bryant had 41 points at that stage.

Bryant was 11-of-18 from the floor, including 2-of-4 from 3-point range, and 8-of-9 from the foul line for 32 points at halftime. Lamar Odom was the Lakers' second-leading scorer at that stage with six points.

Bryant had 15 points and five rebounds in the first nine minutes to spark the Lakers to a 22-17 lead. It was 25-18 entering the second period.

Notes: Dallas guard Jerry Stackhouse hopes to play for the first time this season Friday night in Seattle. He hasn't played because of an injured right knee. "I'm just thankful the time has come for me to be out there," said Stackhouse, averaging 20.4 points in his 10-year NBA career. ... The Lakers are 8-5 on the road compared to 6-6 at home. ... Dallas G Marquis Daniels returned to action after missing two games because of a strained neck and had six points in 25 minutes. ... Rick Fox, who helped the Lakers win three championships before retiring after the 2003-04 season, was honored in a brief ceremony after the first quarter.

Copyright 2005 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.

 

[Havoc]

Re: i don't know where he is now...

Clearly Kobe Bryantput his team on his shoulders and took them over the hill (after a very disappointing effort by the Lakers). I want to see what cranrab and others think of this game.

 

[RunawaySlave]

I can tell you what I think. I think it was an anomaly. I remember
the night Tony Delk hit 50

 

[Complex]

I can tell you what I think. I think it was an anomaly. I remember
the night Tony Delk hit 50

Isn't the second leading scorer in the league?

You're comparing him to Tony Delk

 

[Havoc]

I can tell you what I think. I think it was an anomaly. I remember
the night Tony Delk hit 50

Oh yeah, that's right. It's not like he's capable of pretty much scoring on them at will (didn't he get 40+ on Dallas the last time the Lakers played them?).

I'm expecting this forum to be flooded with posts the moment he (Kobe) has a bad game.

 

[RunawaySlave]

I'm expecting this forum to be flooded with posts the moment he (Kobe) has a bad game.

That's funny, because I KNEW you guys would post the minute
he had a good one



The Tony Delk comparison was to show how A-N-Y-B-O-D-Y is
capable of a one night explosion....An anomaly. It's an anomaly
because you won't see another 18-31 night anytime soon. Nor
will you see 22-25 from the free throw line in one game again
either. Certainly you won't see BOTH of those statlines in ONE
game again. Therfore it's an anomaly

I ain't about to go around in the same bullshit circle again
the mutha fukka had ONE outstanding game. I'm HAPPY for
the guy (being that he's on at least THREE fantasy league
teams I own), but it was not an ordinary game for him


What I hate about these debates??? The minute you get
cornered on a point, where PROOF will be shown, that you are
wrong, babies....immature muthafukkas will change the subject.
Not just in sports, I've seen that tactic used by right wingers
when talking about matters on race relations in this country
Thereby you keep defending the same shit over and over. I've
seen it a THOUSAND times in my life and I try never to get
sucked in to such infantile discussions. I merely make my point
and move on...unless you counter with a pertinent point, you
will get ignored. Long as I keep having to defend a position
no matter HOW many times I prove myself correct, the other
person just moves away to a completely different and unrelated
point where we have to go through the same shit again.....Like
we dancing the Cha-Cha or some dumb shit...I ain't with that

 

[xfactor]

That's funny, because I KNEW you guys would post the minute
he had a good one

Ya know? After the game against Detroit Tuesday, I saw on ESPN that Wobe had 60...First thing I was thinking was 'Yup, those BGOL Wobe Nut cliffhangers are going to make a post showing their fan worship'

The Tony Delk comparison was to show how A-N-Y-B-O-D-Y is
capable of a one night explosion....An anomaly. It's an anomaly
because you won't see another 18-31 night anytime soon. Nor
will you see 22-25 from the free throw line in one game again
either. Certainly you won't see BOTH of those statlines in ONE
game again. Therfore it's an anomaly

Yes... this is what people also dont realize. I'm pretty sure Wobe wont be going 18-31 from the field anytime soon, and I can almost gaurantee that he will never go 22-25 in a game again. I would love to see a tape of that game to see how someone who is more of a jump shooter than slasher can get 25 FTA in 3 quarters like that.

I remember when Delk hit 53 pts on the road against Sacremento a few years ago and you're right. Anybody is capable of going off for a huge scoring night (50+) in the NBA but I wouldnt be that impressed with it unless it was a consistent effort. I also remember when Allan Houston dropped 50+, when Antawn Jamison dropped 50 on back to back nights and an undrafted, free agent pickup by the Lakers named Reggie Jordan dropped 30 in his NBA debut (yet I think he never even scored double figures in a game again the whole season). Hell, Im pretty sure that if a player like Steve Kerr had a crack at putting up 30 shots a game, he could easily lead the league in scoring.

With the amount of shots Wobe was taking, Im not surprised at all. As a matter of fact, I even said he should be averaging 50 ppg b/c of his shot output. The point per shot statistic (PPG/FGAG) is a great indicator of how efficient a scorer is and at a PPS of 1.24 for Kobe, he's about .26 percent points down from what would even be good for the amount of shots he's taking (which would bring his average to 40 ppg if he attempted and made the same amount of FTs)

*And for the record, Iverson's PPS is 1.29

What I hate about these debates??? The minute you get
cornered on a point, where PROOF will be shown, that you are
wrong, babies....immature muthafukkas will change the subject.
Not just in sports, I've seen that tactic used by right wingers
when talking about matters on race relations in this country
Thereby you keep defending the same shit over and over. I've
seen it a THOUSAND times in my life and I try never to get
sucked in to such infantile discussions. I merely make my point
and move on...unless you counter with a pertinent point, you
will get ignored. Long as I keep having to defend a position
no matter HOW many times I prove myself correct, the other
person just moves away to a completely different and unrelated
point where we have to go through the same shit again.....Like
we dancing the Cha-Cha or some dumb shit...I ain't with that

... I agree with this as well...I guess I learned the hard way trying to debate it with those worthless lemmings on the BGOL main board

 

[Complex]

Ya know? After the game against Detroit Tuesday, I saw on ESPN that Wobe had 60...First thing I was thinking was 'Yup, those BGOL Wobe Nut cliffhangers are going to make a post showing their fan worship'

Who made this topic

 

[Complex]

That's funny, because I KNEW you guys would post the minute
he had a good one



The Tony Delk comparison was to show how A-N-Y-B-O-D-Y is
capable of a one night explosion....An anomaly. It's an anomaly
because you won't see another 18-31 night anytime soon. Nor
will you see 22-25 from the free throw line in one game again
either. Certainly you won't see BOTH of those statlines in ONE
game again. Therfore it's an anomaly

I ain't about to go around in the same bullshit circle again
the mutha fukka had ONE outstanding game. I'm HAPPY for
the guy (being that he's on at least THREE fantasy league
teams I own), but it was not an ordinary game for him


What I hate about these debates??? The minute you get
cornered on a point, where PROOF will be shown, that you are
wrong, babies....immature muthafukkas will change the subject.
Not just in sports, I've seen that tactic used by right wingers
when talking about matters on race relations in this country
Thereby you keep defending the same shit over and over. I've
seen it a THOUSAND times in my life and I try never to get
sucked in to such infantile discussions. I merely make my point
and move on...unless you counter with a pertinent point, you
will get ignored. Long as I keep having to defend a position
no matter HOW many times I prove myself correct, the other
person just moves away to a completely different and unrelated
point where we have to go through the same shit again.....Like
we dancing the Cha-Cha or some dumb shit...I ain't with that

You mean proof like me being able to post other games where he's shot 60%


Anybody? Kobe isn't Tony Delk, he's a future hall of famer who has averaged over 20 for his career.. If Michael Jordan scored 63, would you say...Dana Barros or Willie Burton scored 50? That's why that is the single dumbest damn point I've ever seen against Kobe. Kobe has scored over 50...5 times. This isn't Devean George scoring 60.

No, the reason you don't like to debate is that you give opinion, and facts don't support what you say.

 

[RunawaySlave]

You mean proof like me being able to post other games where he's shot 60%

Dawg, you cited his stats for NINE games. This is a man who is damn near a TEN year veteran. How about citing the stats for that?? That's what Cran is doing. Citing stats over the long haul of a CAREER, not some little pocket of games...Or will you IGNORE that because it doesn't support YOUR statement??

Anybody? Kobe isn't Tony Delk, he's a future hall of famer who has averaged over 20 for his career.. If Michael Jordan scored 63, would you say...Dana Barros or Willie Burton scored 50? That's why that is the single dumbest damn point I've ever seen against Kobe. Kobe has scored over 50...5 times. This isn't Devean George scoring 60

This is EXACTLY what I was talking about. Changing the subject. Where did
the subject of Jordan come into this discussion?? We are not discussing Jordan...or Devean George (I don't know WHERE he came from....a diversionary tactic?), Willie Burton (??) or Dana Barros. I brought up Delk to make a point about
anomalies. That anyone can score points (including the people you mentioned)
YOU however, decided to take the shit into a whole other direction, thus deflecting the point I made and trying to keep the shit going around in a circle. Like we riding a merri-go round or some shit. I don't need it man. I made a point and you ignore it. I, on the other hand deal directly with your statement. The grown up way.

I'm done. This discussion is a waste of my time....see your team when they're home after NOT winning yet another title with your hero

 

[RunawaySlave]

I love this.....
Minutes after typing all this gobbledy gook I typed
some EVIDENCE (of things clearly seen)

Havoc....check out tonight's box score for your Lakers
Check out the SHOT distribution....Kobe has SIXTEEN
shots (very good) while there are about 5 others with
9 shots each. One man has less than 25% of the total
shots taken....pretty evenly distributed

Now check out the final score. Lakers by 16....This is a much
more attainable goal than Kobe scoring 62 a night right??

If Kobe could get that statline he had in his 62 point game
(18-31 FGs, 22-25 FTs), then yeah, they would be very
successful as a team, but we know that's not gonna
happen much. Why?? Because it's an anomaly, just like I said

But this game (2nite) can happen 95% of the time. If Kobe LET'S
it happen. And the Lakers got more than enough talent
(scoring and otherwise) to make a run at the top teams
in the west