NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/50)

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NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/50 splits)


this the third big timer on the label i heard that said said master p was real with it. for the people that say p fucked over his artist. serv on explains the real reason why NL split up. audio below

Mr. Serv-On claims Master P and No Limit Records gave artists the best contracts in Rap history. He reveals how a speaker-phone and an upset executive compromised an independent juggernaut.

In 1999, Mr. Serv-On's sophomore album, Da Next Level garned a #1 debut on the Rap/Hip Hop charts for reigning independent label No Limit Records. According to the New Orleans, Louisiana native who was with the label since the mid-1990s, that was the year No Limit sold 22 million units. Sadly, it was a year before the label suffered an artist exodus which was led by in-house production team Beats By The Pound. In an interview this week with the Underground Society online radio show, Mr. Serv-On explained the root of the artist departure—including his own—and how it greatly damaged No Limit's legacy.

"The thing that really messed it up was when Beats By The Pound and [Master P] got into the smallest thing," began Serv. "Man, and when I tell you why No Limit [Records] broke up—'cause he didn't get rid of people. He did a few interviews out there. That was just [because] his feelings were hurt, 'cause niggas walked off. He'd be like, 'I got rid of niggas.' In '99, when most of us walked off, we sold 22 million albums. You don't go and get rid of niggas that helped you sell 22 million."

According to Mr. Serv-On, Beats By The Pound—which included KLC, Craig B, Mo B. Dick and Odell—stirred the pot with a contract dispute. "This shows you how No Limit really broke up, and ended up levelin' off and fadin': Basically, P was doin' a huge business deal. Contracts came out; we didn't live by contracts, we lived by handshakes and word—blood in, blood out. Our contracts was better than any contracts, ever. I own my masters! We own everything. We got 50/50 [splits]. That's how real the nigga played us, and we owned our publishing. He was a real dude with it. What happened was, he had to get signed contracts to do this big business transaction with [No Limit Records' distributor at the time] Priority [Records]. When the contracts came, the producers were like, 'Man, I'ma get a lawyer.'" Lawyers had not previously been part of the agreements in the New Orleans-based street label.

Mr. Serv-On, who helped bring KLC and Craig B to the label before its mainstream success watched his friends bring in legal counsel. "We had people in our circle that weren't so-they-say 'street guys'—and they was with that bullshit. So one day [in a phone meeting], P was like, 'Man, they don't wanna sign [the contract], fuck 'em!' The [lawyer had Beats By The Pound] on speaker. And they heard it. P didn't really mean nothin' by it; he was just gettin' mad, like you would with your homie."

According to Serv, KLC felt particularly slighted, after producing hits such as "Bout It, Bout It," "Make 'Em Say Uhh!" and "Down 4 My Niggaz," all major hits on top-selling albums. Mr. Serv-On explained, "[KLC and Master P] was like [Dr.] Dre and Snoop [Dogg]. That kinda really fucked KL up, to hear that." Master P and KLC reportedly had several difficult verbal exchanges following the phone conversation. "P being stubborn, wouldn't apologize. KL was like, 'I'ma stand my ground.' So Beats By The Pound walked away. P waited so long to say, 'Man, Serv, go call Beats, let's work this out.' It was too late. They was gettin' deals." Beats By The Pound left the label, working under the name Medicine Men. In recent years, KLC has worked with the likes of Bun B, B.G., and former No Limit artists Curren$y and Mystikal.

Beats By The Pound's departure upset the roster at the label, which included Fiend, Mia X and Magic, in addition to Mr. Serv-On. "When they walked off, all the artists were like, 'P, we're not workin' with these other producers.' In turn, that got him mad and whatever." Having reportedly brought Beats By The Pound to No Limit, Serv admitted his difficult stake in the situation. "I got caught in the middle, 'cause I brought the two main producers—with the most hits—to No Limit. It was like, 'Man, get them back.'" Serv claims that he went from a pupil of Master P in the label and A&R'ing to grunt-work. "It went to, 'Aight Serv, what's going on? I'll holla at you on this, this and that.' I was working on my third album, which the world never got to hear—which was just crazy. I went to turn it in, and it was kinda funny." He deduced, "This shit ain't family no more...for me, that's what I came up with." In late 1999, following Da Next Level, Mr. Serv-On left No Limit. A year later, he released War Is Me, Pt. 1: Battle Decisions on the small independent label, Lifetime Entertainment. Interestingly enough, the album featured extensive production by Beats By The Pound's Craig B. Serv admits that while behind the scenes, his former label boss helped his career even after No Limit. "He helped me in the background—still got me deals and got me situations overseas with clothing stuff."

Still, it all comes back to that one phone conversation. "Everybody walked away...that big-ass conglomerate broke down because of two people that were just too stubborn to sit down and talk, over somethin' that wasn't even supposed to be heard: a 'fuck 'em.'"

Master P and son Romeo are currently revamping No Limit Forever Records, now based in Los Angeles, California. The roster is said to include Fat Trel and former Death Row Records hopeful Eastwood, in addition to Master P, Romeo and Silkk The Shocker.

Two years ago this month, Mr. Serv-On released Internet Platinum. The full interview is below:
http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/...e-conversation-that-broke-up-no-limit-records

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Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

Bro, we've told niggas numerous times...P was real with them dudes & didn't fuck over them cats like he could've. I've always said his stubborness is what caused his demise, this just proves it.
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

Bro, we've told niggas numerous times...P was real with them dudes & didn't fuck over them cats like he could've. I've always said his stubborness is what caused his demise, this just proves it.

c/s bro. everybody was saying klc and beats by the pound left cause of money this proves that was not the case. just egos and shit.
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

Props to P & company.




http://www.tmz.com/2013/04/26/maste...rapper-storms-out-of-surprise-birthday-party/


http://www.tmz.com/2013/05/01/master-p-flash-mob-borthday-disaster-punkd-ashton-kutcher/




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Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

i've heard this before. :yes:
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

wanted to say props for your threads because I'm always learning new shit.
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

Another artist to kill tha bullshit rumors.
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

wanted to say props for your threads because I'm always learning new shit.

The artists killed a cash cow. They put out crappy lyrics with little to no depth but they were getting a good deal with the masters & 50-50 split.
 
Bro, we've told niggas numerous times...P was real with them dudes & didn't fuck over them cats like he could've. I've always said his stubborness is what caused his demise, this just proves it.

It'll be some NO ninja come in here, argue facts spit by someone there during this shit going down AND STILL call P dirty, say he hustled his artists, didn't pay them, etc. i knew this all along, but hey I'm from Houston what do i know about the boot :hmm:

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Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

wanted to say props for your threads because I'm always learning new shit.
:cool:

It'll be some NO ninja come in here, argue facts spit by someone there during this shit going down AND STILL call P dirty, say he hustled his artists, didn't pay them, etc. i knew this all along, but hey I'm from Houston what do i know about the boot :hmm:

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the funny part is these artists dont have no reason to lie. its not like p still paying them
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

It is funny. If Master P would have been crooked he may still be on top. That is one of the problems working with niggas. They always want more than they should have. 50/50 split:eek:
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

Bro, we've told niggas numerous times...P was real with them dudes & didn't fuck over them cats like he could've. I've always said his stubborness is what caused his demise, this just proves it.

don't sound like he was being stubborn. sounds like he was tired of having a cool distribution deal held up behind one or two dudes. and SO WHAT if he said 'fuk um'. how about u retort with 'well fuk u 2 then'! and then u let that high priced lawyer u payin deal with the business and u keep getting paid?
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

It is funny. If Master P would have been crooked he may still be on top. That is one of the problems working with niggas. They always want more than they should have. 50/50 split:eek:

There comes a point where you can be so generous that you're stupid.
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

There comes a point where you can be so generous that you're stupid.

i thik it was more so of him helping his people out. i remember him buying houses and letting people live there for free
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

Damn, P was a saint in comparison.

*two cents*
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

don't sound like he was being stubborn. sounds like he was tired of having a cool distribution deal held up behind one or two dudes. and SO WHAT if he said 'fuk um'. how about u retort with 'well fuk u 2 then'! and then u let that high priced lawyer u payin deal with the business and u keep getting paid?


Bro, they got lawyers to deal w/ business...the stubbornness was P wasn't trying to hear no lawyers :lol:

I get it 100%, you been 100 with niggas without a contract...you HAVE to give them a contract because it's terms of the new agreement w/ the distribution deal & they run to some lawyers, it seems like they don't trust you. I get why P was pissed. Instead of letting the beef brew, he should've sat down with them & they lawyers and walked through the deal. Look at how that deal affected No Limit & Priority :smh:
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

beats making 20cent off a $10-$20 album with no publishing no masters

is what it is tho that's the past homie, every label eventually falls anyway
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

I remember snoop last album with them.. he explain sum of it but really not in depth. . I miss a lot of the guys.. u had sum that still b making sum hot shit right now..
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

beats making 20cent off a $10-$20 album with no publishing no masters

is what it is tho that's the past homie, every label eventually falls anyway

So dude was making 100 000 off of a gold album
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

Crazy. P and them had a hell of a run. I remember when they were putting out two albums a month. Everybody must have ate well.
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

who the hell does handshake contracts?? sometimes u just have to handle business the right way and get lawyers involved....its the best way to protect yourself....especially in the music industry. As with any job.....i wanna see shit in black and white.
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

Crazy. P and them had a hell of a run. I remember when they were putting out two albums a month. Everybody must have ate well.

:yes:
 
who the hell does handshake contracts?? sometimes u just have to handle business the right way and get lawyers involved....its the best way to protect yourself....especially in the music industry. As with any job.....i wanna see shit in black and white.

Exactly.

How you own your masters and publishing without nothing on paper?
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

Good read
 
Re: NO Limit had the best contracts. everybody owned their master and publishing(50/5

Exactly.

How you own your masters and publishing without nothing on paper?

Right,there are older artist who did deals like that and they aren't seeing shit from their hardwork because of such dealings.

believe what you want too but theres more to the story I'm sure.
 
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