NO Billionaires in Hip Hop and why...thoughts? Colin warning

Artist Monk

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http://www.makinitmag.com/blog/nw-7-reasons-hip-hop-has-no-billionaires

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When it was announced that Apple was acquiring Beats for $3 Billion, the hip hop blogosphere exploded with talks of Dre being hip hop’s first billionaire. Being the nerd that I am and having followed the acquisitions of tech companies like Instagram and Whatsapp, I understood that there were finer financial intricacies at play than cutting a check for 25% (Dre’s stake in Beats) of $3.2 Billion (The initial Beats sale price to Apple). After the dust settled and the acquisition was complete, Dre’s post-Apple net worth was estimated to be in the neighborhood of $780 Million; leapfrogging him over Hov and Diddy, but still putting him more than $200 Million shy of the billion dollar mark.

As inspiration often strikes me, it was a heated debate between two grown @$$ men in the barbershop arguing about another man’s pockets that prompted me to tackle the idea of why Hip Hop has no billionaires. Before I dive into this topic though, I would like to start by clarifying that the phrase “Hip Hop’s first billionaire" doesn’t imply someone that has made a billion dollars from hip hop but instead someone who found success in hip hop and graduated to greater business endeavours. With no further delay, let's get to the list.

7. Hip Hop is a hustle - In hip hop we promote a culture of hustling instead of business building. We prefer to juug and focus on the quick lick than build lasting success. You can ultimately hustle up a million dollars, but hitting that billion dollar mark takes a little more than finessing. It requires solid business foundations.

6. Hip Hop devalues its most important asset - The true wealth of the music industry has always been in intellectual property; not record sales, tours, etc. It’s the legal monopoly over your masters and brand. Hip hop has devalued the worth of its masters with the constant release of mixtapes and free music. We have moved to a paradigm of “Let me get hot so I can get this show money.” Publishing and the administration of your IP (intellectual property) will bring you in money long after the shows stop. As technology evolves, so do licensing opportunities.

5. Rappers have poor brand value - Another part of intellectual property I mentioned in the last paragraph is Brand. There are few strong brands being built in hip hop. Today’s rappers derive their value from external sources, be it luxury cars, liquors or clothing lines. They freely promote other people’s businesses to build brand value by association. That’s part of the reason you can go into walmart and buy a Van Halen or AC/DC t-shirt and not find a single one for a hip hop group.

4. Lack of Diversification in Investing - We don’t invest outside of Barbecue and Barbershops. OK...not literally, but there are a set of investments that rappers deem “safe”. Rappers start labels, studios, restaurants, nightclubs, real estate and businesses that they’ve seen other rappers succeed with. Hip hop doesn’t invest its money into new sectors such as technology or commodities. All of the hip hop cash kings have seen substantial boosts in their net worth from areas not considered traditional investments for hip hop (Rocawear, Beats by Dre, Ciroc, etc).

3. Market Share Scavengers - At some point these exact situations have happened in hip hop… Someone asks, “He made how much off an energy drink???” and 100 rappers launch energy drinks! Someone asks, “He made how much off headphones???” and 50 Rappers launch headphones. Someone asks, “They made how much off their liquor endorsement???” and 1,000 Rappers launch or endorse liquor brands. Rather than seeking out new and profitable investment opportunities, hip hop has a culture of financial “Biting”. Rappers emulate another rapper's successful moves, often after the market leader has been determined and the window of opportunity has closed.

2. We’d Rather Look Good Losing Than Look Bad Winning! - Hip hop has developed a culture of excess spawned from poverty. Juvenile said it best on 400 Degreez… “Actin’ like a n---- that aint neva had s---.” Most rappers never achieve success in the music industry because they’d rather spend their budgets looking successful than being successful. The ones that do hit upon success, squander the opportunity to build generational wealth because they spend money flexin’ and keeping up appearances, often returning back to “poverty”.

1. Racism - Ummmm… Up until recently, Hip Hop has been a predominantly black dominated genre of music. Take into account that of the nearly 1200 billionaires on the planet, only 9 are black, and outside of Oprah Winfrey, none are American or have built their fortunes on entertainment. One does not merely build a billion dollar net worth through hard work. Wealth at this level is the result of opportunity and strategic partnerships. But what happens when those opportunities and partnerships are denied or not offered to you because of your ethnicity or cultural background? Well… You spaz out on your friend Sway. Consider for a second that it was in fact destined for Kanye to transition into fashion becoming the next Ralph Lauren and hip-hop’s first billionaire, but the possibility was snuffed out by an industry that doesn’t respect blacks or hip hop culture. Nike will gladly let Ye design a shoe and use his brand to sell it for exorbitant prices, but it doesn’t deem him valuable enough to let him sit at the table and get a royalty on those sales.

Of all the reasons I’ve outlined above, the only one we can’t do anything about is racism. The other six speak solely to the values of hip hop culture. I hope to not just see hip hop’s first billionaire some day but to see the first of many. I hope to see more hustlers evolve into businessmen and place a greater value on finances than flossing. I hope to see more entrepreneurs in the urban market broaden their horizons to investment opportunities beyond hip hop and urban culture, or at least capitalize on opportunities that cater to our culture in new ways. Consider for a second that RapGenius.com (a website whose sole purpose was explaining the lyrics of rap music) just raised $40 Million in investment capital, giving it a rumored valuation around $400 Million, but I haven’t heard of a single rapper that's invested into the company. Another great example is IDLM, the company behind Datpiff.com.

I know plenty of artists that spend thousands of dollars posting and promoting mixtapes on their website, but not a single one that owns stock in this publicly traded company. So while there is much conversation about whether Dre, Hov or Diddy will be Hip Hop’s first Billionaire, let's continue to lay a foundation so that whomever it is, is not also the last.
 
Name a billionaire from any genre of music ?

I can only think of 2 , maybe 3 in the possibility of Jimmy Iovine crossing the mark after the Beats sales.

Richard Branson of Virgin records

&

David Geffen of Geffen records.

McCartney & Jagger have long been rumored to be in or near that rarified air. Both from 2 iconic groups.
 
Name a billionaire from any genre of music ?

I can only think of 2 , maybe 3 in the possibility of Jimmy Iovine crossing the mark after the Beats sales.

Richard Branson of Virgin records

&

David Geffen of Geffen records.

McCartney & Jagger have long been rumored to be in or near that rarified air. Both from 2 iconic groups.

:ssshhh:
 
Name a billionaire from any genre of music ?

I can only think of 2 , maybe 3 in the possibility of Jimmy Iovine crossing the mark after the Beats sales.

Richard Branson of Virgin records

&

David Geffen of Geffen records.

McCartney & Jagger have long been rumored to be in or near that rarified air. Both from 2 iconic groups.
exactly.

puff will be there in a few years though.
 
I would add Bono and McCartney. Mike Jack should and/or could have been (especially acquiring the Beatles Catalog.

Bono is probably the best example of turning millions into billions. His investment house probably received over $1 billion from Facebook alone. I would rather know what our entertainers are doing for the same "culture" they fight so hard to protect when white folks get shine.
 
5. Rappers have poor brand value - Another part of intellectual property I mentioned in the last paragraph is Brand. There are few strong brands being built in hip hop. Today’s rappers derive their value from external sources, be it luxury cars, liquors or clothing lines. They freely promote other people’s businesses to build brand value by association. That’s part of the reason you can go into walmart and buy a Van Halen or AC/DC t-shirt and not find a single one for a hip hop group.

whats roca wear and wu-wear? whats sean john?

6. Hip Hop devalues its most important asset - The true wealth of the music industry has always been in intellectual property; not record sales, tours, etc. It’s the legal monopoly over your masters and brand. Hip hop has devalued the worth of its masters with the constant release of mixtapes and free music. We have moved to a paradigm of “Let me get hot so I can get this show money.” Publishing and the administration of your IP (intellectual property) will bring you in money long after the shows stop. As technology evolves, so do licensing opportunities.

when your trying to build a buzz and notoriety about yourself you tend to work for free at first.. as you grow and get bigger those freebies stop....jay z and kanye and kendrick lamar ain't doing mixtapes anymore for a reason..
 
The writer must have no knowledge of hip hop. He's using a few dudes as examples. Like making a quick billion is a easy feat.
 
There's no billionaires in hip hop because hip hop is a relatively new art form.
in one sense youre right that from the rappers aspect its relatively new and still growing..there are much more richer and business savvy rappers now than there were 20 years ago.

BUT there are billionaires in hip hop...theyre just not rappers and not black. :smh:
 
The artform is only 40years old. 30years old in terms of mainstream relevance. 10 of those years artists were still getting acclimated to the business and screwed over like most musicians.

The moguls and greats are still very young men barely in their 40s most who didn't start releasing music until the mid 90s. A hand full of which are trending to billionaire status by their 50th birthdays.

Which other genre of music has had that level of growth and success?

This article is silly.
 
The writer must have no knowledge of hip hop. He's using a few dudes as examples. Like making a quick billion is a easy feat.

I believe the whole premise of his argument is that it's not all at easy at all to earn billions from hip-hop music alone. Earning billions alone as an entertainer is a damn near impossible feat despite the genre of music. Hip-hop artists are limited by their inability to think beyond the "street hustle" mentality and into the corporate realm, which is controlled by white supremacist. These factors impede their ability to get to that level of success.

The argument is hip-hop artist not making billions, not hip-hop music's ability to earns billions. See the difference?

 
I believe the whole premise of his argument is that it's not all at easy at all to earn billions from hip-hop music alone. Earning billions alone as an entertainer is a damn near impossible feat despite the genre of music. Hip-hop artists are limited by their inability to think beyond the "street hustle" mentality and into the corporate realm, which is controlled by white supremacist. These factors impede their ability to get to that level of success.

The argument is hip-hop artist not making billions, not hip-hop music's ability to earns billions. See the difference?


Well that's my point. He ASSUMES these guys are only making money off hip hop music? He's using generalizations about a few artists i'm sure he's thinking of guys in the 90's and early 2000's. Even a artist like Rick Ross has business ventures outside of hip hop. And he's one of many.
 
http://www.makinitmag.com/blog/nw-7-reasons-hip-hop-has-no-billionaires

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When it was announced that Apple was acquiring Beats for $3 Billion, the hip hop blogosphere exploded with talks of Dre being hip hop’s first billionaire. Being the nerd that I am and having followed the acquisitions of tech companies like Instagram and Whatsapp, I understood that there were finer financial intricacies at play than cutting a check for 25% (Dre’s stake in Beats) of $3.2 Billion (The initial Beats sale price to Apple). After the dust settled and the acquisition was complete, Dre’s post-Apple net worth was estimated to be in the neighborhood of $780 Million; leapfrogging him over Hov and Diddy, but still putting him more than $200 Million shy of the billion dollar mark.

As inspiration often strikes me, it was a heated debate between two grown @$$ men in the barbershop arguing about another man’s pockets that prompted me to tackle the idea of why Hip Hop has no billionaires. Before I dive into this topic though, I would like to start by clarifying that the phrase “Hip Hop’s first billionaire" doesn’t imply someone that has made a billion dollars from hip hop but instead someone who found success in hip hop and graduated to greater business endeavours. With no further delay, let's get to the list.

7. Hip Hop is a hustle - In hip hop we promote a culture of hustling instead of business building. We prefer to juug and focus on the quick lick than build lasting success. You can ultimately hustle up a million dollars, but hitting that billion dollar mark takes a little more than finessing. It requires solid business foundations.

6. Hip Hop devalues its most important asset - The true wealth of the music industry has always been in intellectual property; not record sales, tours, etc. It’s the legal monopoly over your masters and brand. Hip hop has devalued the worth of its masters with the constant release of mixtapes and free music. We have moved to a paradigm of “Let me get hot so I can get this show money.” Publishing and the administration of your IP (intellectual property) will bring you in money long after the shows stop. As technology evolves, so do licensing opportunities.

5. Rappers have poor brand value - Another part of intellectual property I mentioned in the last paragraph is Brand. There are few strong brands being built in hip hop. Today’s rappers derive their value from external sources, be it luxury cars, liquors or clothing lines. They freely promote other people’s businesses to build brand value by association. That’s part of the reason you can go into walmart and buy a Van Halen or AC/DC t-shirt and not find a single one for a hip hop group.

4. Lack of Diversification in Investing - We don’t invest outside of Barbecue and Barbershops. OK...not literally, but there are a set of investments that rappers deem “safe”. Rappers start labels, studios, restaurants, nightclubs, real estate and businesses that they’ve seen other rappers succeed with. Hip hop doesn’t invest its money into new sectors such as technology or commodities. All of the hip hop cash kings have seen substantial boosts in their net worth from areas not considered traditional investments for hip hop (Rocawear, Beats by Dre, Ciroc, etc).

3. Market Share Scavengers - At some point these exact situations have happened in hip hop… Someone asks, “He made how much off an energy drink???” and 100 rappers launch energy drinks! Someone asks, “He made how much off headphones???” and 50 Rappers launch headphones. Someone asks, “They made how much off their liquor endorsement???” and 1,000 Rappers launch or endorse liquor brands. Rather than seeking out new and profitable investment opportunities, hip hop has a culture of financial “Biting”. Rappers emulate another rapper's successful moves, often after the market leader has been determined and the window of opportunity has closed.

2. We’d Rather Look Good Losing Than Look Bad Winning! - Hip hop has developed a culture of excess spawned from poverty. Juvenile said it best on 400 Degreez… “Actin’ like a n---- that aint neva had s---.” Most rappers never achieve success in the music industry because they’d rather spend their budgets looking successful than being successful. The ones that do hit upon success, squander the opportunity to build generational wealth because they spend money flexin’ and keeping up appearances, often returning back to “poverty”.

1. Racism - Ummmm… Up until recently, Hip Hop has been a predominantly black dominated genre of music. Take into account that of the nearly 1200 billionaires on the planet, only 9 are black, and outside of Oprah Winfrey, none are American or have built their fortunes on entertainment. One does not merely build a billion dollar net worth through hard work. Wealth at this level is the result of opportunity and strategic partnerships. But what happens when those opportunities and partnerships are denied or not offered to you because of your ethnicity or cultural background? Well… You spaz out on your friend Sway. Consider for a second that it was in fact destined for Kanye to transition into fashion becoming the next Ralph Lauren and hip-hop’s first billionaire, but the possibility was snuffed out by an industry that doesn’t respect blacks or hip hop culture. Nike will gladly let Ye design a shoe and use his brand to sell it for exorbitant prices, but it doesn’t deem him valuable enough to let him sit at the table and get a royalty on those sales.

Of all the reasons I’ve outlined above, the only one we can’t do anything about is racism. The other six speak solely to the values of hip hop culture. I hope to not just see hip hop’s first billionaire some day but to see the first of many. I hope to see more hustlers evolve into businessmen and place a greater value on finances than flossing. I hope to see more entrepreneurs in the urban market broaden their horizons to investment opportunities beyond hip hop and urban culture, or at least capitalize on opportunities that cater to our culture in new ways. Consider for a second that RapGenius.com (a website whose sole purpose was explaining the lyrics of rap music) just raised $40 Million in investment capital, giving it a rumored valuation around $400 Million, but I haven’t heard of a single rapper that's invested into the company. Another great example is IDLM, the company behind Datpiff.com.

I know plenty of artists that spend thousands of dollars posting and promoting mixtapes on their website, but not a single one that owns stock in this publicly traded company. So while there is much conversation about whether Dre, Hov or Diddy will be Hip Hop’s first Billionaire, let's continue to lay a foundation so that whomever it is, is not also the last.

Not feeling your list. Here's why

7. You can't make a billion without making a million first. Hustling is what got hip hop to the point it is in the first place.

6. With sharply declining sales and more internet money the record industry is quickly getting out of the CD selling business and moving into the mass media business. Everyone has a 360 deal now which gives these monsters full control over everything an artist does or makes. Hang on to your intellectual property if you want, but that means you also will not have access to the bigger touring venues, commercial radio play, top shelf itunes promotions and the myriad of other pipelines an artist needs to become a superstar in today's world.

5. You bring up bands like AC/DC and Van Halen without mentioning the thousands of rock bands that don't make it. You also fail to mention that Rock n' roll has been in the American mainstream for at least 20 years longer than hip hop has. Case in point, both AC/DC and Van Halen are European bands that build up their rep overseas before hitting America. Aside from Iggy can you mention ONE hip hop artist or group that has managed to do this?

Also, rock focuses on bands while hip hop focuses on artists. If Eminem were to die in his sleep tonight his career would be over. If the drummer for AC/DC dies in his sleep they can audition a new one by next week. This inherently gives bands more longevity and brand loyalty.

It has nothing to do with endorsement deals.

4. While I would normally agree with this point (smart investing over popular investing) the publicity that comes from investing in a nightclub as opposed to a tech company can boost a rapper's public profile which leads to more music money, even if the nightclub fails.

Also, many musicians, including rappers, already do invest smartly. You just don't hear much about it because it isn't sexy. That's why many people don't know that Marvin Gaye made a huge part of his money by investing in Famous Amos cookies.

3.Rappers have been endorsing shoes, liquor, clothes and other commodities long before they got paid to do so. They will do so long after the money stops too because detailed self expression is in the nature of the music.

2. Music in general is a TERRIBLE way to build generational wealth. Unless your last name is Marley, Judd, or Winans your parents probably died penniless or close to it.

That's not because musicians blow all of their money. It's because there really isn't that much money in the first place. Even TLC, a group that toured the world and sold over ten million albums, had less than a million to split between the three of them.

The sad fact is that musicians, with a few exceptions, are good at making music not business deals.

1. While I will agree that racism is probably the HUGEST factor of the lot, it's also the reason you probably will see a true black hip hop billionaire in the near future. The labels know that the existence of such a billionaire will make it easier for them to hide their racist practices and make everything appear to be fair. They can simply say "The system isn't racist. If Dre and Kanyne can pull themselves up by their bootstraps so can anyone."
 
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