Nintendo is 'Finished,' says Final Fantasy VII Writer

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Nintendo is 'Finished,' says Final Fantasy VII Writer

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The iPad The iPad has been making waves; big enough waves to worry game hardware makers. The latest in a string of comments confirming the growing rivalry between Apple and Nintendo has come from Masato Kato, the writer behind Final Fantasy VII, Chrono Trigger and several other games.

Writing on his Twitter, the industry veteran commented, “With the iPad going on sale, the epoch of Nintendo is finished. But with the DS and the Wii, it's been digging its own grave.”

These words join a growing number of comments that suggest that Apple will ultimately destroy Nintendo’s market share. Though Reggie Fils-Aime continues to downplay the threat that Apple could pose,http://www.industrygamers.com/news/nintendo-preparing-for-all-out-assault-on-apple/
is needed against Nintendo.

The rather sobering statements made by Kato reflected a disappointing fiscal year for Nintendo. Though they’ve sold over 70 million units of the Wii and DS, but profits decreased by over 18% from last year. Nintendo is on a slippery slope, and the news of 2 million iPad sales in just over 2 months could spell trouble for Nintendo if they do not show up with something major for the changing games landscape here at E3 next month.
; big enough waves to worry game hardware makers. The latest in a string of comments confirming the growing rivalry between Apple and Nintendo has come from Masato Kato, the writer behind Final Fantasy VII, Chrono Trigger and several other games.

Writing on his Twitter, the industry veteran commented, “With the iPad going on sale, the epoch of Nintendo is finished. But with the DS and the Wii, it's been digging its own grave.”

These words join a growing number of comments that suggest that Apple will ultimately destroy Nintendo’s market share. Though Reggie Fils-Aime continues to downplay the threat that Apple could pose, Satoru Iwata has made it clear that an “all out assault” is needed against Nintendo.

The rather sobering statements made by Kato reflected a disappointing fiscal year for Nintendo. Though they’ve sold over 70 million units of the Wii and DS, but profits decreased by over 18% from last year. Nintendo is on a slippery slope, and the news of 2 million iPad sales in just over 2 months could spell trouble for Nintendo if they do not show up with something major for the changing games landscape here at E3 next month.
 
I dont understand why someone would want to play video(games)<plural> on the Ipad exclusively to the point Nintendo should be worried. My Wii gets no burn and don't own a Ipad....no desire to own one unless someone bought it for me, just off the strength that it would get used as much as my Psp- doctor visits, road trips,etc. Dats crazy!
 
This has got to be one of the most stupid IPad related gossip ever posted.

The Wii and Ipad are two totally seperate entities and all this rabid Ipad this Ipad that comparisons just reeks of hyped overkill. :smh::smh::smh:
 
WILL BUY MY KID THE WII-NOT THE IPAD

MAD GROUPS OF KIDS CAN PLAY ONE WII - IPAD IS ONLY FOR 1 PERSON

THE ELDERLY PLAY THE WII - NO ONE OVER 50 WANTS AN IPAD

WII IS "GOOD" EXERCISE - IPAD IS NOT EXERCISE AT ALL


WII IS A GOOD GAMING COUNSOLE - IPAD IS A COMPU..ER ; NETBOO....ERR-NO SURE WHAT THE HELL THE IPAD IS
 
This has got to be one of the most stupid IPad related gossip ever posted.

The Wii and Ipad are two totally seperate entities and all this rabid Ipad this Ipad that comparisons just reeks of hyped overkill. :smh::smh::smh:

Right now the Wii and the iPad are two separate entities but by generation 4 whose to say that they will be?

Add a camera, bluetooth motion controllers, hdmi/tv and you've got a portable gaming system that keeps all or most of your games on the device itself.

So not only does it invade the living room but also the portable gaming market.
 
Nintendo isn't going anywhere anytime soon :lol: Those fools are still printing money from the Wii and DS sales. They never lost money on them when they started selling them and are only making more on each one sold now due to the cost of production going down. The Ipad can't kill everything. Leave console gaming and Apple products separate please :yes:
 
WILL BUY MY KID THE WII-NOT THE IPAD

MAD GROUPS OF KIDS CAN PLAY ONE WII - IPAD IS ONLY FOR 1 PERSON

THE ELDERLY PLAY THE WII - NO ONE OVER 50 WANTS AN IPAD

WII IS "GOOD" EXERCISE - IPAD IS NOT EXERCISE AT ALL


WII IS A GOOD GAMING COUNSOLE - IPAD IS A COMPU..ER ; NETBOO....ERR-NO SURE WHAT THE HELL THE IPAD IS

The Ipad is a big iTouch without a phone or camera. The DSI has a camera and great games, plus you can run homebrew on it without hardware hacking it. You could buy a Wii an extra controller, a DSI and a R4DSi for the price of that apple bullshit.
 
Big Black, i agree with your major premise, Nintendo really has to fuck up to lose. But lets look at why App Dev's flock to the iTunes App Store and Obj C. Simply, put, its easy and more profitable. The games are cheaper in price so the licensing cost is also cheaper, there is no physical media to license, no distribution partner, ala EA, Activision to pay, you can go directly to the App Store and publish. Starting at $.99 or even free, you can move millions of Apps with pocket pure profit (-30%) for Apple (credit card/hosting/listing, etc). From the user's pov, its easy as shit. Bored on the train? Got WiFi? 3G Connection? DL a game from the App Store. Its instant gratification. The games are small, but packed with fun, and more importantly, if a friend tells a friend, you've won a new customer. So long term, Nintendo has to really fuck up to really Lose, but Apple, you gotta admit, they changed the paradigm.
 
The Ipad is a big iTouch without a phone or camera. The DSI has a camera and great games, plus you can run homebrew on it without hardware hacking it. You could buy a Wii an extra controller, a DSI and a R4DSi for the price of that apple bullshit.

Sinister, one game, runs across 3 platforms in the Apple ecosystem dude, did you miss that? If I'm a dev, I write 1x and it ships on iPad, iPod Touch, and iPhone. All them shits is mobile and online aware with access to a store enabling people to make spur of the moments purchases without need to lug around cartridges or going to GameStop to get raped.

Chill on the Apple hate and broaden the view, you'll see the strategy.
 
Ever since I figured out how to softmod my Wii (USB loaders, playing DL games, Roms, etc...), I have been playing the shit out of my Wii. As mentioned, the Wii is geared to more people the 360 or PS3 or even the iPad will ever be. Nintendo is about games and innovation, and that is why they aren't going anywhere. The company has been around for over a hundred years. They ain't going anywhere. Especially when Nintendo has Mario, Zelda, Metroid and Pokemon up their sleeves. Lets see Apple compete with that team.
 
WILL BUY MY KID THE WII-NOT THE IPAD

MAD GROUPS OF KIDS CAN PLAY ONE WII - IPAD IS ONLY FOR 1 PERSON

THE ELDERLY PLAY THE WII - NO ONE OVER 50 WANTS AN IPAD

WII IS "GOOD" EXERCISE - IPAD IS NOT EXERCISE AT ALL


WII IS A GOOD GAMING COUNSOLE - IPAD IS A COMPU..ER ; NETBOO....ERR-NO SURE WHAT THE HELL THE IPAD IS

c/s

that ipad shit dont appeal to kids..
the wii is an experience the ipad is nuthin more than just being on the computer.. right now im hooked on super mario galaxy 2

i don't understand what the ipad obsession is all about..
sure it sold alot but thats mostly companies buying that shit in bulk for contests and businesses.. its not like its the next thing to slice bread..

how nintendo and apple come in the same sentence is baffling
 
I would of never thought of using Nintendo WII and Apple IPad in the same sentence.:smh:

Nintendo has been around for decades they aint going nowhere soon. They will just come up with something new.
 

c/s

that ipad shit dont appeal to kids..
the wii is an experience the ipad is nuthin more than just being on the computer.. right now im hooked on super mario galaxy 2

i don't understand what the ipad obsession is all about..
sure it sold alot but thats mostly companies buying that shit in bulk for contests and businesses.. its not like its the next thing to slice bread..

how nintendo and apple come in the same sentence is baffling

Damn,

Great minds think alike.:yes:
 
WILL BUY MY KID THE WII-NOT THE IPAD

MAD GROUPS OF KIDS CAN PLAY ONE WII - IPAD IS ONLY FOR 1 PERSON

THE ELDERLY PLAY THE WII - NO ONE OVER 50 WANTS AN IPAD

WII IS "GOOD" EXERCISE - IPAD IS NOT EXERCISE AT ALL


WII IS A GOOD GAMING COUNSOLE - IPAD IS A COMPU..ER ; NETBOO....ERR-NO SURE WHAT THE HELL THE IPAD IS



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Big Black, i agree with your major premise, Nintendo really has to fuck up to lose. But lets look at why App Dev's flock to the iTunes App Store and Obj C. Simply, put, its easy and more profitable. The games are cheaper in price so the licensing cost is also cheaper, there is no physical media to license, no distribution partner, ala EA, Activision to pay, you can go directly to the App Store and publish. Starting at $.99 or even free, you can move millions of Apps with pocket pure profit (-30%) for Apple (credit card/hosting/listing, etc). From the user's pov, its easy as shit. Bored on the train? Got WiFi? 3G Connection? DL a game from the App Store. Its instant gratification. The games are small, but packed with fun, and more importantly, if a friend tells a friend, you've won a new customer. So long term, Nintendo has to really fuck up to really Lose, but Apple, you gotta admit, they changed the paradigm.

I agree with you 100%. Apple has changed the game with the app store. I just wouldn't start talking about the Ipad taking down consoles just yet. They will eat into the DS profits by far but that won't be enough to put Nintendo away. Nintendo has been around for a long time and have always found a way to not only stay in the game, but get back on top after all these years. I'm not a huge fan of the Wii but looking at the numbers they've done I had to laugh at this guy saying "Nintendo is finished". Recently I've been playing that Mario Galaxy 2 with my girl because she refuses to try Red Dead Redemption :D. I played the first Mario Galaxy and this one is even better which is pretty impressive if you ask me. The Ipad will not be touching games like that for a LONG ass time. Nintendo is a long time member at the game table, Apple to me is the new girl that walks into class and everybody is looking at thinking she's will be the top bitch all of a sudden :D
 
WILL BUY MY KID THE WII-NOT THE IPAD

MAD GROUPS OF KIDS CAN PLAY ONE WII - IPAD IS ONLY FOR 1 PERSON

THE ELDERLY PLAY THE WII - NO ONE OVER 50 WANTS AN IPAD

WII IS "GOOD" EXERCISE - IPAD IS NOT EXERCISE AT ALL


WII IS A GOOD GAMING COUNSOLE - IPAD IS A COMPU..ER ; NETBOO....ERR-NO SURE WHAT THE HELL THE IPAD IS

c/s

that ipad shit dont appeal to kids..
the wii is an experience the ipad is nuthin more than just being on the computer.. right now im hooked on super mario galaxy 2

i don't understand what the ipad obsession is all about..
sure it sold alot but thats mostly companies buying that shit in bulk for contests and businesses.. its not like its the next thing to slice bread..

how nintendo and apple come in the same sentence is baffling
 
Sinister, one game, runs across 3 platforms in the Apple ecosystem dude, did you miss that? If I'm a dev, I write 1x and it ships on iPad, iPod Touch, and iPhone. All them shits is mobile and online aware with access to a store enabling people to make spur of the moments purchases without need to lug around cartridges or going to GameStop to get raped.

Chill on the Apple hate and broaden the view, you'll see the strategy.

No, I understand the strategy and It's going to make a lot of money. I just don't put games I can play on a cell phone in the same class as ones you can play on a Wii.
 
I agree with you 100%. Apple has changed the game with the app store. I just wouldn't start talking about the Ipad taking down consoles just yet. They will eat into the DS profits by far but that won't be enough to put Nintendo away. Nintendo has been around for a long time and have always found a way to not only stay in the game, but get back on top after all these years. I'm not a huge fan of the Wii but looking at the numbers they've done I had to laugh at this guy saying "Nintendo is finished". Recently I've been playing that Mario Galaxy 2 with my girl because she refuses to try Red Dead Redemption :D. I played the first Mario Galaxy and this one is even better which is pretty impressive if you ask me. The Ipad will not be touching games like that for a LONG ass time. Nintendo is a long time member at the game table, Apple to me is the new girl that walks into class and everybody is looking at thinking she's will be the top bitch all of a sudden :D

Nintendo is so Gangsta that they havent even TOUCHED the HD market yet and their numbers are STILL redonkulous..
PS3, Xbox, and Apple all operate towards HD but nintendo still isnt in last place even though they dont do the same..

Thats a pretty big sign that Nintendo can hold its own.. As dude said Mario Galaxy 2 is the shizzinickle right now. I havent even bought red dead demption yet because of it.. Ninitendo got they mind focused on EVERYBODY men, women, elderly, exercise nuts, nutrition enthusiast, and the list goes on..being able to play a REAL game of Golf, Bowling, Tennis, etc.. whose fucking with that?
 
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Nintendo is so Gangsta that they havent even TOUCHED the HD market yet and their numbers are STILL redonkulous.. PS3, Xbox, and Apple all operate towards HD but nintendo still isnt in last place even though they dont do the same..

Thats a pretty big sign that Nintendo can hold its own.. As dude said Mario Galaxy 2 is the shizzinickle right now. I havent even bought red dead demption yet because of it.. Ninitendo got they mind focused on EVERYBODY men, women, elderly, exercise nuts, nutrition enthusiast, and the list goes on..being able to play a REAL game of Golf, Bowling, Tennis, etc.. whose fucking with that?

Xbox and PS3 are all I really fuck with but I do have a Wii just because I like having the all the options. I still can't believe Nintendo is not only in first in terms of sales, but actually has Microsoft and Sony adding shit to their consoles to try and keep up :eek:
 
Ninetendo is all about fun period. They have been around for a long ass time. I remember playing my first Ninetendo home product in 1982. Colecovision came with Donkey Kong. By 1984/85 it was a wrap for Coleco, Intellivion(Mattel), and Ninetendo got Atari's fan huge base. The Ninetendo Entertainment system changed the game. I hope they step up their next system to include DVD playback, HD, and most important of all online play and titles for online play.
 
Nintendo has/getting money longer than train smoke, just moonwalking Microsoft and Sony
....and their doing it with "2nd place" technology.:lol:

Ps3/Xbox360: hardcore gamers.

Wii: Every.Body.Else.:hmm:

I believe in business class my professor called that a sound market strategy.:yes:


That iPod.. I mean iPad Stan needs to remove Steve Jobs dick from his mouth and sitdown somewhere cause the only place nintendo is going is back to the bank to deposit it's money. I Remeber the last company that wanted a piece of nintendo's market. They now make games on nintendo platforms....:hmm:


Stupid hedgehog.

*two cents*
 
This has got to be one of the most stupid IPad related gossip ever posted.

The Wii and Ipad are two totally seperate entities and all this rabid Ipad this Ipad that comparisons just reeks of hyped overkill. :smh::smh::smh:

I said the same thing to myself when they made comparisons between the iPod Touch and the Nintendo DS until I found myself literally getting rid of my DS to make "room" for the Touch...might be more than coincidence...I still think this article is jumping the gun...that being said dude mentions the iPad going on sale...umm...when...? :dance:
 
The Ipad is a big iTouch without a phone or camera. The DSI has a camera and great games, plus you can run homebrew on it without hardware hacking it. You could buy a Wii an extra controller, a DSI and a R4DSi for the price of that apple bullshit.

Your thinking is finite and I'm not saying that to be insulting but you are just looking @ it from a gaming perspective...if you look @ them as portable devices for entertainment then you will see why it's a threat (@ least the iPod...not sure about the iPad yet)...
 
WILL BUY MY KID THE WII-NOT THE IPAD

MAD GROUPS OF KIDS CAN PLAY ONE WII - IPAD IS ONLY FOR 1 PERSON

THE ELDERLY PLAY THE WII - NO ONE OVER 50 WANTS AN IPAD

WII IS "GOOD" EXERCISE - IPAD IS NOT EXERCISE AT ALL


WII IS A GOOD GAMING COUNSOLE - IPAD IS A COMPU..ER ; NETBOO....ERR-NO SURE WHAT THE HELL THE IPAD IS
ah, the sound of ignorance. :rolleyes:

Yeah cuz older people hate reading books right? :lol: just say you hate the iPad and leave it at that....

:lol:
 
there is an app called cloud browse and it enables flash on the ipod touch and phone.

:yes:

...and to the dude who made the comment the Final Fantasy franchise will tank waaaaaay before Nintendo does...I wonder what was the real motivation for his comment...did Nintendo say they didn't want anymore Final Fantasy games for the Wii or something...?
 
just as a reminder, that i dont disagree with nintendo's money and their strategy to date but this isnt a comment by an apple fan site, that the article is only pointing out the comments Masato Kato game developer and scenario writer made. (as have quite a few handheld game developers)


also take into consideration that nintendo is NOT taking apple lightly..


Satoru Iwata, the Nintendo president, is understood to have told his senior executives recently to regard the battle with Sony as a victory already won and to treat Apple, and its iPhone and iPad devices, as the “enemy of the future” .

http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/technology/article7118570.ece
 
ah, the sound of ignorance. :rolleyes:

Yeah cuz older people hate reading books right? :lol: just say you hate the iPad and leave it at that....

:lol:

ohh no older ppl love reading books-except they like to read actual books-not the ipad---hell will the average over 50 senior citizen even know how to turn it on-:confused:-will they know how to download books from the app store????

i mean come on the point is the guy said "Nintendo is 'Finished,' "says Final Fantasy VII Writer-due to the ipad no -way

this has nothing to do with my love or hate of the ipad

now please go back to current 1st grade level conversations already in progress
 
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