****Nikon vs. Canon DSLR****

I did consider that because it is priced at a point where I could afford to get it really soon, definitely much sooner than I would be able to get the 6D or the D800. However, I REALLY want a full-frame camera. I like that the D7100 is 24 megapixels, though. The fact that the D800 is so high (a staggering 36 megapixels) is a bit bothersome because it means I'll need way more storage, with respect to both the SD cards I will use and HDD space on my computer. I do have a 3TB External HDD, so maybe the latter won't be too bad.

It has a FX mode. tho of course not actually true FX. also, the IQ is fantastic, that's the difference. you can always use a wider lens. for instance - a 35mm DX is about 50mm FX.
All those pixels don't mean much unless you're doing HUGE prints.
When you shoot RAW you just capture data so you can sharpen, pull details out of shadows, etc.
all storage is temporary so it doesn't matter how much space you have; you can delete from your computer after you burn to at least 3 discs. you also should copy disc regularly.
jpeg is a lossy format so doing that will degrade the files over time but most people can't tell


Another concern of mine is the buffering on the D800. I've seen videos where after a quick burst of continuous shooting it can take the D800 up to 2 1/2 minutes to buffer, rendering the camera useless for that time. So if the perfect shot comes along while in this state, then I will miss it. That sucks for events where things are happening rather quickly (like parties or clubs), which are places where I like to get a lot of candid shots, so people are moving around a lot, rather than posing.

nah. if you're shooting 14 RAW there is a buffer slow down but nowhere near 21/2 minutes. where'd that come from? shoot RAW 12 and you'll be fine.
use a fast lens and you'll get all the candid shots you want.
 
don't know where you are but B&H and Adorama rent in NYC.

remember you lose 2 stops with that 2x teleconverter. pros usually use a 1.4; only loses 1 stop and on a DX is plenty of reach and doesn't need as much light, although most pros use f8

also D7100 has the 51 focal points too


Excellent point Knight make sure you get the CORRECT teleconverter!!! :yes:


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just occurred to me: the mods will probably move this thread to the photography forum. you might wanna check there if you haven't already.
 
If your just getting into the game go to the pawn shop and find a deal and get a lens.

:cool: Just any lens or if you are shooting mostly for film what kind of lenses? Also are there any good 35mm adapters?

Try both but to me the Nikon camera is best. My uncle has a Canon and the biggest difference I see in the two is that you can pretty much just pick up the Nikon and start shooting. Much easier to learn on the fly with a Nikon if you don't have a ton of time to spend with the camera. No way you can picking up a Canon and just start shooting. Controls are way more complex. Also what someone suggested was right, get your lenses first, then upgrade your body. I use my camera for sporting events. My son also plays football and golf so I take pics of him as well. If you have a NIkon go with the Sigma 120mm-300mm Lens. Excellent!!! I rent it each week for my son's games. Charge me 60$ per weekend. Next year I'll buy it. Runs about 3,000 brand new but look for one used. Keep in mind if your using a crop sensor camera it's basically gonna turn that 300mm into a 400mm when your using it. I shoot with a Nikon D5100. Now for NFL games they don't allow you to use any detachable lens lens over 100mm. Not a big problem for me as I often sit in the first 10 rows, so the 18mm- 55mm is good enough. You can also get around this issue by buying an extender teleconverter and placing it on your camera. Will add zoom to the camera without them knowing. Find a good camera shop in your area and test stuff out. Also, check Amazon and B&H Photo and video for all things camera related. Invest in a monopod as well if you look into the Sigma zoom lenses. There heavy as hell so your gonna want one trust me!!! No matter how strong you are, them shits are heavy after a while!! For wide zoom lenses go with Tamron. Always look for the f stop number on lenses. Depending on what your shooting you may want as much light as possible shooting from your lense.


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Tamron SP 24-70mm Di VC USD Lens



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Sigma 137306 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM Lens for Nikon (Black)


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Nikon TC-20E III AF-S 2x Teleconverter

Triple bitch post for this Thread!!!

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Thanks for that info Jack.

Also Jack where'd you get this pic? Do you know this girl?
 
:cool: Just any lens or if you are shooting mostly for film what kind of lenses? Also are there any good 35mm adapters?



Thanks for that info Jack.

Also Jack where'd you get this pic? Do you know this girl?


Nah I don't know her. She's beautiful though ain't she?


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Also some camera shops also offer classes on how to use your specific camera and what your mainly using it for. So just ask.


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:cool: Just any lens or if you are shooting mostly for film what kind of lenses? Also are there any good 35mm adapters?

no, no, no. no adapters.
1) they are only needed to adapt different mounts ie: canon to sony, etc. just buy the lens that fits the camera mount
2) they make the lens unstable and change the cameras balance
3) they make the image horrible if using AF, and AF might not work. in essence you are using a short extension tube



p.s - damn, jack, she fina dan a motorscooter
 
Dont't buy this lens. If you ca afford it buy the 70-200mm 2.8. otherwise look into a sigma 70-200mm 2.8. that lens is too slow.

yeah it is not as completely versatile as it seems....but if you are doing studio work, shooting outside in daylight or with strobes, then you should be good. but like you said, you can scratch some of the low natural light stuff....cause it is too slow.
 
nah. if you're shooting 14 RAW there is a buffer slow down but nowhere near 21/2 minutes. where'd that come from? shoot RAW 12 and you'll be fine.
use a fast lens and you'll get all the candid shots you want.

I watched a Youtube clip where the guy timed it with his iPhone and that's what it was. If I can find it again, I will post it.
 
I would say a canon! But try each one out and find pick the one that you feel comfortable with!! Good shooting :yes:
 
I would say a canon! But try each one out and find pick the one that you feel comfortable with!! Good shooting :yes:

Yup. I asked a very close friend of mine and he said the same exact thing you did. He says that he would go with Canon, but he also cautioned me to pick the one that feels the best and most intuitive to me.
 
Try both but to me the Nikon camera is best. My uncle has a Canon and the biggest difference I see in the two is that you can pretty much just pick up the Nikon and start shooting. Much easier to learn on the fly with a Nikon if you don't have a ton of time to spend with the camera. No way you can picking up a Canon and just start shooting. Controls are way more complex. Also what someone suggested was right, get your lenses first, then upgrade your body. I use my camera for sporting events. My son also plays football and golf so I take pics of him as well. If you have a NIkon go with the Sigma 120mm-300mm Lens. Excellent!!! I rent it each week for my son's games. Charge me 60$ per weekend. Next year I'll buy it. Runs about 3,000 brand new but look for one used. Keep in mind if your using a crop sensor camera it's basically gonna turn that 300mm into a 400mm when your using it. I shoot with a Nikon D5100. Now for NFL games they don't allow you to use any detachable lens lens over 100mm. Not a big problem for me as I often sit in the first 10 rows, so the 18mm- 55mm is good enough. You can also get around this issue by buying an extender teleconverter and placing it on your camera. Will add zoom to the camera without them knowing. Find a good camera shop in your area and test stuff out. Also, check Amazon and B&H Photo and video for all things camera related. Invest in a monopod as well if you look into the Sigma zoom lenses. There heavy as hell so your gonna want one trust me!!! No matter how strong you are, them shits are heavy after a while!! For wide zoom lenses go with Tamron. Always look for the f stop number on lenses. Depending on what your shooting you may want as much light as possible shooting from your lense.

Good info, thank you Jack.


Can you tell me if this is a good setup for a starter? Its 550 bucks with the lens. I plan to go check it out at a local camera shop.


http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007VGGFZU/?tag=vp314-20

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I watched a Youtube clip where the guy timed it with his iPhone and that's what it was. If I can find it again, I will post it.

well, there ya go


What is a good lens for shooting in low lighting?

start with f2.8 down
you are going to have to learn about depth of field if you already don't know because the larger the aperture, the shallower the depth of field. so for example if you're shooting in a club and you want to shoot the dance floor and have all the people in focus, you're going to need f8 and up. if ya wanna get just one hottie in focus and the other people blurry and out of focus (bokeh) then f2.8 and lower

if possible alway shoot low light with a tripod and cable or remote or even timer because when you press the shutter button the camera will shake. use a mono if you can't use a tri

I've shot lots of night scenes with tris and they are really nice to look at
 
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:cool: Just any lens or if you are shooting mostly for film what kind of lenses? Also are there any good 35mm adapters?

no, no, no. no adapters.
1) they are only needed to adapt different mounts ie: canon to sony, etc. just buy the lens that fits the camera mount
2) they make the lens unstable and change the cameras balance
3) they make the image horrible if using AF, and AF might not work. in essence you are using a short extension tube



p.s - damn, jack, she fina dan a motorscooter

Well it’s a way of giving your video a film-look by using special adaptors that provide the depth of field (DOF) characteristics of 35mm film. But the adaptar will most likely but used in conjunction with a rig.


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I'm getting a camera soon. I got my Go Pro HD camera for video. I'm just recording and taking pix of concerts and doing interviews.​
 
Canon T3i with the 70-200 mm 2.8 IS II:yes:
Going to upgrade to a full frame model soon, but had to get the "Glass" first!
that lens is the straight shit...look up the 5 star reviews ALL over the net.
You can't beat Canon for the lenses they produce!
PERIOD!
Nuff Said
 
Well it’s a way of giving your video a film-look by using special adaptors that provide the depth of field (DOF) characteristics of 35mm film. But the adaptar will most likely but used in conjunction with a rig.


maybe we're talking about two different kinds of adapters because the f stop determines dof. always has, always will. maybe it's a lens FILTER he's talking about that produces special effects. plenty of those; polarizers, gels, stars, circular, moire on and on.
 
I watched a Youtube clip where the guy timed it with his iPhone and that's what it was. If I can find it again, I will post it.


well, there ya go
Is there something wrong with the stopwatch on the iPhone? I'm so confused by this response, Knight.:confused::confused::confused:


start with f2.8 down
you are going to have to learn about depth of field if you already don't know because the larger the aperture, the shallower the depth of field. so for example if you're shooting in a club and you want to shoot the dance floor and have all the people in focus, you're going to need f8 and up. if ya wanna get just one hottie in focus and the other people blurry and out of focus (bokeh) then f2.8 and lower

if possible alway shoot low light with a tripod and cable or remote or even timer because when you press the shutter button the camera will shake. use a mono if you can't use a tri

I've shot lots of night scenes with tris and they are really nice to look at

This response, however, is not confusing to me.lol You and Jack Walsh have been tremendous in this thread . . . no disrespect to everyone else who has been kind enough to respond. I appreciate all of you guys because I have gotten so much more knowledge since starting the thread. Thanks, fam. Keep the good info coming.
 
I don't think you can go wrong with any DSLR camera. This dude makes pictures with cellphones
It all depends on your skills and what you want to do with it.

I agree to some extent because people compliment all of my pictures EVERY time and I've been using my phone since my compact camera broke. To be honest, that's what has reignited my interest in photography. I was raised around it and was interested when I used to do jobs with my Pop, but I fell out of love with it. I guess I just never lost an eye for a good photograph, and some of the skills have remained dormant. I'm ready to jump back into the game; hence, I started this thread.lol
 
Sup fam,

I'm in the market for a full-frame DSLR camera and have been doing mad research over the past few weeks (about a month). I am an amateur (fairly strong though), but I grew up around photography my whole life. My reasons for using will be mostly for events (weddings, graduations, nightlife, etc.). I will probably be doing some landscape and other outdoor shooting as well, as I want to become a power user.

My question to the photographers is, based on what I highlighted above, is what is the best brand to go with (between Nikon and Canon) and what is the best in full-frame in each brand. The photographers in my family swear by Nikon. What do you all own and find most effective for your type of photography? Which do you think would be best for my style?

I am currently looking hard at two, one from each brand. On the Nikon side, I am looking at the D800. I was extremely interested in the D600, but too many complaints of oil on the sensor made me shy away in recent weeks. On the Canon side, I am extremely interested in the EOS 6D. What do the knowledgeable photographers think of those two.

One last thing, I know the lens is the most important part, but I do want a good body as well. I've already researched lenses and know what I want from each brand. I'm mainly just researching the body at this point. Thanks for any and all information provided.

being a photog for 10 years (not a TFP shooter, I get paid). Shot many productions, video and stills, in adult and mainstream stuff. I left Canon years back, missed my lenses the most, had all L glass. I went to Nikon. Will tell you, the D800, for what you are doing is very damn good.

Personally, I bought so many lenses when I started shooting, cheap shit and then moved to very sharp L's. I barely used anything in my bag but my 28-300. Now that I moved to Nikon, it is all I use.

I have a d7000 and moving to the d800 in about a month or two. It really is a no brainer. I am not gonna sit here and argue with Canon users. I do love Canon, but hands down, pulling dynamic range out of a photo, Nikon takes beyond beautiful images.

But the two most important things in photography "today" is lenses and your post production. As long as you have Lightroom (for bulk editing) and Photoshit is for individual edits that need more attention.

But I see photos and vids out of the d800 that consistently blow me away to know that will be my next baby.

but that is for what I shoot, which is mostly under studio lights or in instances where I can manipulate light. I don't shoot birds or anything like that. I shoot mostly boudoir, escorts and porn.
 
being a photog for 10 years (not a TFP shooter, I get paid). Shot many productions, video and stills, in adult and mainstream stuff. I left Canon years back, missed my lenses the most, had all L glass. I went to Nikon. Will tell you, the D800, for what you are doing is very damn good.

Personally, I bought so many lenses when I started shooting, cheap shit and then moved to very sharp L's. I barely used anything in my bag but my 28-300. Now that I moved to Nikon, it is all I use.

I have a d7000 and moving to the d800 in about a month or two. It really is a no brainer. I am not gonna sit here and argue with Canon users. I do love Canon, but hands down, pulling dynamic range out of a photo, Nikon takes beyond beautiful images.

But the two most important things in photography "today" is lenses and your post production. As long as you have Lightroom (for bulk editing) and Photoshit is for individual edits that need more attention.

But I see photos and vids out of the d800 that consistently blow me away to know that will be my next baby.

but that is for what I shoot, which is mostly under studio lights or in instances where I can manipulate light. I don't shoot birds or anything like that. I shoot mostly boudoir, escorts and porn.
I hear you and thanks a million for the info. Something you touched on is one of my main concerns . . . lighting. I will be shooting a lot of pics at night because my friends and I hit up a lot of night spots. Everything I've read and all the clips I've seen suggest that the D800 is not the best at night shooting. The Mark 5 seems to be consistently much better than the D800 in this area. However, I am in love with the other features of the D800. That's my dilemma at this point.

I have no particular brand loyalty, but the Nikon is what I seem to be leaning toward more and more as time (and research) goes on. I'm still in the saving phase, so I have time to continue to delve deeper into my research, but the D800 has definitely caught my eye. It's like that really fine girl at the club that you just know is out of your league and even though there's mad other bitches that you could have for sure and that would meet the immediate need, you really can't stop staring at the really fine bitch. It's annoying.lol
 
I hear you and thanks a million for the info. Something you touched on is one of my main concerns . . . lighting. I will be shooting a lot of pics at night because my friends and I hit up a lot of night spots. Everything I've read and all the clips I've seen suggest that the D800 is not the best at night shooting. The Mark 5 seems to be consistently much better than the D800 in this area. However, I am in love with the other features of the D800. That's my dilemma at this point.

I have no particular brand loyalty, but the Nikon is what I seem to be leaning toward more and more as time (and research) goes on. I'm still in the saving phase, so I have time to continue to delve deeper into my research, but the D800 has definitely caught my eye. It's like that really fine girl at the club that you just know is out of your league and even though there's mad other bitches that you could have for sure and that would meet the immediate need, you really can't stop staring at the really fine bitch. It's annoying.lol

Night shooting as in video or stills? Like club parties?

Cause if it's stills, it's all about a sharp glass with a wide aperture like 1.8 to 2 or something. Then a strong flash like the sb900 with good rechargeable batteries. Bounce the light with like a bounce card.
 
Have had the t3i for barely a year and I have next to zero complaints about it. I use it for video (which ironically is landing me some pretty sweet gigs) and its great.

Fantastic entry level camera. My advice is to learn the basics on whatever you buy. With those, you can apply those techniques to any camera of your choosing.
 
Im new to dslr and will be getting the Nikon 5300... body kit only. Any ideas for a good affordable prime lens for video. I also need a good zoom lens for the world cup in brazil 2014.
 
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