****Nikon vs. Canon DSLR****

[ThaAnsa3]

Sup fam,

I'm in the market for a full-frame DSLR camera and have been doing mad research over the past few weeks (about a month). I am an amateur (fairly strong though), but I grew up around photography my whole life. My reasons for using will be mostly for events (weddings, graduations, nightlife, etc.). I will probably be doing some landscape and other outdoor shooting as well, as I want to become a power user.

My question to the photographers is, based on what I highlighted above, is what is the best brand to go with (between Nikon and Canon) and what is the best in full-frame in each brand. The photographers in my family swear by Nikon. What do you all own and find most effective for your type of photography? Which do you think would be best for my style?

I am currently looking hard at two, one from each brand. On the Nikon side, I am looking at the D800. I was extremely interested in the D600, but too many complaints of oil on the sensor made me shy away in recent weeks. On the Canon side, I am extremely interested in the EOS 6D. What do the knowledgeable photographers think of those two.

One last thing, I know the lens is the most important part, but I do want a good body as well. I've already researched lenses and know what I want from each brand. I'm mainly just researching the body at this point. Thanks for any and all information provided.

 

[clitsational]

i completely disagree

but i'm a canon guy

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[badboyyawdie]

Nikon.

 

[yureeka9]

I've been shooting for over a decade now and the most important thing I've learned about cameras is that in the proper hands you can achieve amazing results with ANY brand. At the full frame level the differences are so subtle that's the issue is pretty much void at that point. My suggestion is to find a feature that stands out among the lead brands and latch on to just that. For me I shoot Sony Alpha because before I bought my first DSLR the Pro-am camera they had was the only one that allowed for a rotating body that kept me from having to bend down to get difficult shots. (I'm 6'4"). After that I was hooked. Its too expensive to change brands 10 years down the road so here I am with an A350, A77 and A99. But the results are damn good!

 

[clitsational]

great all around lens

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[ThaAnsa3]

I thank all who have taken time to respond so far. Let's make this thread special.

great all around lens

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Man, this lens looks sick. I'm going to research this one closer. I've spend quite some time looking at the more affordable lenses for what I want to do, but this one looks really damn enticing.

 

[yureeka9]

great all around lens​

click da pic for more info​

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Damn!! This bitch must be four figures! They offering to rent it!

 

[dezufnoC]

If you are going to do some video recording with this camera as well allow me to throw this into the mix Panasonic GH3 micro four thirds camera....If you don't know... now you know!

 

[Clubber_lang]

Dont't buy this lens. If you ca afford it buy the 70-200mm 2.8. otherwise look into a sigma 70-200mm 2.8. that lens is too slow.

great all around lens

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I am a Nikon guy even when I was shooting film. I have used canon often for work but my personal camera is Nikon. I think Nikon lenses are sharper. At then end of the day though, you have to see which camera gives you the results that you like. Rent them for a weekend and test them out.

 

[Mello Mello]

Dont't buy this lens. If you ca afford it buy the 70-200mm 2.8. otherwise look into a sigma 70-200mm 2.8. that lens is too slow.


I am a Nikon guy even when I was shooting film. I have used canon often for work but my personal camera is Nikon. I think Nikon lenses are sharper. At then end of the day though, you have to see which camera gives you the results that you like. Rent them for a weekend and test them out.

How much do you usually spend to rent the camera s and the lenses?

 

[Varis]

That lens better have X-ray vision

 

[kain]

I needed this thread.
I don't know what to look for in a good camera.

 

[donwuan]

If your just getting into the game go to the pawn shop and find a deal and get a lens.

 

[ThaAnsa3]

I needed this thread.
I don't know what to look for in a good camera.

I'm glad that you can get some useful information in this thread.

If your just getting into the game go to the pawn shop and find a deal and get a lens.

Hey donwuan, I'm not a complete novice. I've been around photography and know a lot of the basics. I think that's why I'm going so big so soon. Just taking pictures with my camera phone or the little Sony compact digital camera I had has people talking. Everyone says I have an eye for that shit, and so I figured why not put the raw talent to use and start to learn as much as I can. Maybe I can parlay it into a side gig, as it's still not something that I think I want to take on full throttle.

 

[PussyMan]

Go into shops and play around with your top contenders and choose the one whose controls feels most comfortable and intuitive.

I went with Canon. I also like the fact that they do two types of lenses. The cheap amateur stuff and the expensive pro glass. I can buy the cheap lens to try out. If I love it enough, I upgrade to the pro stuff. Bodies will come and go, your investment is in your glass.

 

[cmac105]

Go into shops and play around with your top contenders and choose the one whose controls feels most comfortable and intuitive.

I went with Canon. I also like the fact that they do two types of lenses. The cheap amateur stuff and the expensive pro glass. I can buy the cheap lens to try out. If I love it enough, I upgrade to the pro stuff. Bodies will come and go, your investment is in your glass.

This^^^^^^

 

[ArsenalCannon357]

got a 6D, I love it.....what type of photography you do?

 

[knightmelodic]

Go into shops and play around with your top contenders and choose the one whose controls feels most comfortable and intuitive.

I went with Canon. I also like the fact that they do two types of lenses. The cheap amateur stuff and the expensive pro glass. I can buy the cheap lens to try out. If I love it enough, I upgrade to the pro stuff. Bodies will come and go, your investment is in your glass.

bold part is very true. but nikon makes pro and consumer glass too. that 800 or 800e is the best entry level pro body period. 51 focal points.
nikon has a green cast, canon a magenta one. shoot raw and a little pp to correct white balance except consistent lighting.
all pros get tack using a tripod with remote or cable.
really, only canons to come close to the 800 are the marks.
the nikon "holy trinity" has been the standard for years.

don't go by what you see at sporting events, etc; those guys are usually comped their equipment by the manufacturers

you can rent lenses for sure, bodies I don't know

 

[SIDESHOW]

This^^^^^^

c/s!

As you advance in this hobby, your decisions will tend to be dictated by the glass you've accumulated over time.

The platform/body will choose you. Try them out, and figure out which one feels best to YOU. I've always shot Nikons(Currently a D800). Like Canon, Nikon also offers pro and consumer grades lens at various price points.

 

[Flawless]

it will come down to preference, don't listen to anyone who says one is better than the other

 

[tallblacknyc]

bout to upgrade myself.. which camera is best for vids???? i use to juss deal with vidcams but since i can basically have 2 in 1 with a digicam which is best?? i kno what most my people in da bizz use but i'm always interested in others opinions

 

[SIDESHOW]

bout to upgrade myself.. which camera is best for vids???? i use to juss deal with vidcams but since i can basically have 2 in 1 with a digicam which is best?? i kno what most my people in da bizz use but i'm always interested in others opinions

Canon has the edge if you have major concerns about video performance.

 

[sammyjax]

subbed. if i knew how to do that.

love my 7d, this thread is giving me new pm fodder for my questions lol

 

[bionicbrown]

Dude fuck Nikon and Canon, you want a sick camera, check out the Blackmagic Cinema Camera. YouTube it to see the footage. Thank me later.

 

[voodoo]

Damn I just got a little Nikon D3100 and love it. u mofos is taking some serious pictures.

 

[knightmelodic]

bout to upgrade myself.. which camera is best for vids???? i use to juss deal with vidcams but since i can basically have 2 in 1 with a digicam which is best?? i kno what most my people in da bizz use but i'm always interested in others opinions

don't do vids on a dslr myself, but I think canon may have the edge from what I've heard from other photogs

def go to store and handle bodies to see which feels better to you. you won't use it if you don't like it

nikons sensors are significantly better than canons for IQ. if you're a pro or want to do large prints that makes a difference

BTW, nikon only makes cameras, if that matters to you

 

[ThaAnsa3]

got a 6D, I love it.....what type of photography you do?

I will be looking to photograph events, like graduations, weddings, nightlife/club life, etc. I also do a fair amount of traveling (though I haven't been anywhere significant recently), so I would want to capture the different cities and architecture. I am a novice, but I am about as advanced as a novice can be.

I've never owned a full-frame, full-body camera before. This will be my first. I want crisp stills. I don't really care too much about video, but I imagine that I will become interested should I go with one of the cameras that has good video functionality. I've read that the D800 does well, but not as well as the 6D or the 5D Mark III. I'm still in the research and money saving stages, so I have some time before I have to make a final decision.

 

[jack walsh13]

Try both but to me the Nikon camera is best. My uncle has a Canon and the biggest difference I see in the two is that you can pretty much just pick up the Nikon and start shooting. Much easier to learn on the fly with a Nikon if you don't have a ton of time to spend with the camera. No way you can picking up a Canon and just start shooting. Controls are way more complex. Also what someone suggested was right, get your lenses first, then upgrade your body. I use my camera for sporting events. My son also plays football and golf so I take pics of him as well. If you have a NIkon go with the Sigma 120mm-300mm Lens. Excellent!!! I rent it each week for my son's games. Charge me 60$ per weekend. Next year I'll buy it. Runs about 3,000 brand new but look for one used. Keep in mind if your using a crop sensor camera it's basically gonna turn that 300mm into a 400mm when your using it. I shoot with a Nikon D5100. Now for NFL games they don't allow you to use any detachable lens lens over 100mm. Not a big problem for me as I often sit in the first 10 rows, so the 18mm- 55mm is good enough. You can also get around this issue by buying an extender teleconverter and placing it on your camera. Will add zoom to the camera without them knowing. Find a good camera shop in your area and test stuff out. Also, check Amazon and B&H Photo and video for all things camera related. Invest in a monopod as well if you look into the Sigma zoom lenses. There heavy as hell so your gonna want one trust me!!! No matter how strong you are, them shits are heavy after a while!! For wide zoom lenses go with Tamron. Always look for the f stop number on lenses. Depending on what your shooting you may want as much light as possible shooting from your lense.

Tamron SP 24-70mm Di VC USD Lens

Sigma 137306 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM Lens for Nikon (Black)

Nikon TC-20E III AF-S 2x Teleconverter

Triple bitch post for this Thread!!!

 

[tallblacknyc]

Canon has the edge if you have major concerns about video performance.

don't do vids on a dslr myself, but I think canon may have the edge from what I've heard from other photogs

def go to store and handle bodies to see which feels better to you. you won't use it if you don't like it

nikons sensors are significantly better than canons for IQ. if you're a pro or want to do large prints that makes a difference

BTW, nikon only makes cameras, if that matters to you

yeah most my peoples all use canon.. i had to use a few canon myself in bizz.. juss was seeing if anybody was gonna say otherwise.. still good info to hear

 

[take my 10]

Im buying the Cannon T3i next week ( I cant spend thousands on a beginner camera like yall ballers) is that a good camera to start off with? I just want to do photography as a hobby plus pics of my son and a few women

 

[ThaAnsa3]

bold part is very true. but nikon makes pro and consumer glass too. that 800 or 800e is the best entry level pro body period. 51 focal points.
nikon has a green cast, canon a magenta one. shoot raw and a little pp to correct white balance except consistent lighting.
all pros get tack using a tripod with remote or cable.
really, only canons to come close to the 800 are the marks.
the nikon "holy trinity" has been the standard for years.

don't go by what you see at sporting events, etc; those guys are usually comped their equipment by the manufacturers

you can rent lenses for sure, bodies I don't know

Yeah, the 51 focal points gets me. It may just end up being one of the prime deciding factors for me in the end. Also, renting lenses is very affordable. It will give me time to save up to actually buy those ridiculously prices monsters.lol

Dude fuck Nikon and Canon, you want a sick camera, check out the Blackmagic Cinema Camera. YouTube it to see the footage. Thank me later.

Will do, bionic.

don't do vids on a dslr myself, but I think canon may have the edge from what I've heard from other photogs

def go to store and handle bodies to see which feels better to you. you won't use it if you don't like it

nikons sensors are significantly better than canons for IQ. if you're a pro or want to do large prints that makes a difference

BTW, nikon only makes cameras, if that matters to you

I have already played around with a few Nikon cameras and like them. I have yet to really mess with a Canon. That will be the next step for me.

Try both but to me the Nikon camera is best. My uncle has a Canon and the biggest difference I see in the two is that you can pretty much just pick up the Nikon and start shooting. Much easier to learn on the fly with a Nikon if you don't have a ton of time to spend with the camera. No way you can picking up a Canon and just start shooting. Controls are way more complex. Also what someone suggested was right, get your lenses first, then upgrade your body. I use my camera for sporting events. My son also plays football and golf so I take pics of him as well. If you have a NIkon go with the Sigma 120mm-300mm Lens. Excellent!!! I rent it each week for my son's games. Charge me 60$ per weekend. Next year I'll buy it. Runs about 3,000 brand new but look for one used. Keep in mind if your using a crop sensor camera it's basically gonna turn that 300mm into a 400mm when your using it. I shoot with a Nikon D5100. Now for NFL games they don't allow you to use any detachable lens lens over 100mm. Not a big problem for me as I often sit in the first 10 rows, so the 18mm- 55mm is good enough. You can also get around this issue by buying an extender teleconverter and placing it on your camera. Will add zoom to the camera without them knowing. Find a good camera shop in your area and test stuff out. Also, check Amazon and B&H Photo and video for all things camera related. Invest in a monopod as well if you look into the Sigma zoom lenses. There heavy as hell so your gonna want one trust me!!! No matter how strong you are, them shits are heavy after a while!! For wide zoom lenses go with Tamron. Always look for the f stop number on lenses. Depending on what your shooting you may want as much light as possible shooting from your lense.

Tamron SP 24-70mm Di VC USD Lens

Sigma 137306 120-300mm F2.8 DG OS HSM Lens for Nikon (Black)

Nikon TC-20E III AF-S 2x Teleconverter

Man, you almost shut the whole thread down with all this good ass information. Thanks Walsh. I just finished looking at a site for lens rentals and was amazed at how affordable it is to rent high end lenses. Here is a site I found: http://www.lensrentals.com

If any of you homies know any more cool sites for rentals (and even other useful info), then post them. I've already scoured the Photography forum and found a lot of good stuff in there.

 

[knightmelodic]

I will be looking to photograph events, like graduations, weddings, nightlife/club life, etc. I also do a fair amount of traveling (though I haven't been anywhere significant recently), so I would want to capture the different cities and architecture. I am a novice, but I am about as advanced as a novice can be.

I've never owned a full-frame, full-body camera before. This will be my first. I want crisp stills. I don't really care too much about video, but I imagine that I will become interested should I go with one of the cameras that has good video functionality. I've read that the D800 does well, but not as well as the 6D or the 5D Mark III. I'm still in the research and money saving stages, so I have some time before I have to make a final decision.

look at the nikon D7100. it's a beast tho DX format. will save you some money for glass and IQ is sick. beat the D600 and the 6D in tests. if you want to shoot in low light, you're gonna need fast glass which means $$$. you can do what you want to do with an ultra wide zoom (I'd recommend the Tokina 11-16 f2.8; rated better than the nikon or canon), 24-70 f2.8 (nikon is $2k, I suppose you could use 3rd party), and fast prime, maybe the Sigma 100 macro, then you'll have a macro and semi long prime too.
just keep shooting - something will turn out fantastic

 

[knightmelodic]

don't know where you are but B&H and Adorama rent in NYC.

remember you lose 2 stops with that 2x teleconverter. pros usually use a 1.4; only loses 1 stop and on a DX is plenty of reach and doesn't need as much light, although most pros use f8

also D7100 has the 51 focal points too

 

[ThaAnsa3]

look at the nikon D7100. it's a beast tho DX format. will save you some money for glass and IQ is sick. beat the D600 and the 6D in tests. if you want to shoot in low light, you're gonna need fast glass which means $$$. you can do what you want to do with an ultra wide zoom (I'd recommend the Tokina 11-16 f2.8; rated better than the nikon or canon), 24-70 f2.8 (nikon is $2k, I suppose you could use 3rd party), and fast prime, maybe the Sigma 100 macro, then you'll have a macro and semi long prime too.
just keep shooting - something will turn out fantastic

I did consider that because it is priced at a point where I could afford to get it really soon, definitely much sooner than I would be able to get the 6D or the D800. However, I REALLY want a full-frame camera. I like that the D7100 is 24 megapixels, though. The fact that the D800 is so high (a staggering 36 megapixels) is a bit bothersome because it means I'll need way more storage, with respect to both the SD cards I will use and HDD space on my computer. I do have a 3TB External HDD, so maybe the latter won't be too bad.

Another concern of mine is the buffering on the D800. I've seen videos where after a quick burst of continuous shooting it can take the D800 up to 2 1/2 minutes to buffer, rendering the camera useless for that time. So if the perfect shot comes along while in this state, then I will miss it. That sucks for events where things are happening rather quickly (like parties or clubs), which are places where I like to get a lot of candid shots, so people are moving around a lot, rather than posing.

 

[knightmelodic]

BTW, this is not a nikon ad, I've shot with sony, nikon and canon

just wanted to add that you are gonna pp if only to add watermarks, so most of your adjustments can be made there