NFL News: Detroit Lions dealing Matthew Stafford to Los Angeles Rams for Jared Goff

I'm thinking we are going to draft a QB. Either Justin Fields or Zach Wilson out of BYU.
Mattie Ice will then be on his way to San Francisco.
We have to get a new QB, I along with a lot of Atlanta fans have no faith in Matt Ryan.
I do have faith in him. We have a shitty defense. Everyone is acting like Matt is the problem. Last time I checked, he wasn't responsible for rushing the quarterback or stopping the run. He had a good season this year.
 
Nigga they just missed the playoffs last year you have amnesia the fuck?
Wooopty fucking doo

Was they not in the playoffs every year?

how many first round picks y’all had size 1996???

ain’t sniffed a NCG or a super bowl with all them picks

Witten clayborn ezikal ware jenkins
 
Man watching Andy Dalton this season.....I realize there ain’t no such thing is a supporting cast holding a guy back. He is what he is. People get caught up in his arm talent but it takes more than that and I just don’t see it with him. All them cacs like Matthew Stafford, Matt Ryan, Carson Wentz, Jared Goff””....I just don’t see it.

Stafford is in a different tier than Dalton. The offensive supporting cast was ok. The problem has never been our offense. We've been last in the league on points, yardage per play, last in the league in sacks.... defense in mind-boggling horrible because Quinn and Patricia kept drafting slow ass defenders and spending zero draft capital on pass rushers
 
Lynn actually charts out better than what people think. His teams have always had well-ranked offenses even though he has a rep of a conservative playcaller
Hes a horrible OC bro. Analog shit. I watched the Chargers this season and his in game decisions and clock management were some of the worst ive seen. Maybe that was more his staff than him tho. Goff is dumb , has a noodle arm, and has small hands.. Your running game is weak too. Its a disaster in the waits man.
 
Hes a horrible OC bro. Analog shit. I watched the Chargers this season and his in game decisions and clock management were some of the worst ive seen. Maybe that was more his staff than him tho. Goff is dumb , has a noodle arm, and has small hands.. Your running game is weak too. Its a disaster in the waits man.

Swift is nice. The OL is horrible at run-blocking...good at pass blocking.

Yall muthafuckas got it twisted. I'm not dancing because the Lions gonna be good next year. I'm dancing because the Rams overpaid for Stafford and at least our new black GM, who is known for scouting good college talent, it's going to have some bullets to shoot.

We gonna be garbage next season. I'm counting on it. The team as constructed is garbage and we pushed these picks back to the next two years.

The thing is that we had no shot at being good anytime soon unless we fleeced someone like this. Now we have at least have a chance.
 
Wooopty fucking doo

Was they not in the playoffs every year?

how many first round picks y’all had size 1996???

ain’t sniffed a NCG or a super bowl with all them picks

Witten clayborn ezikal ware jenkins
Nigga leave the Cowboys out of this shit. This a shitty trade. Fuck the Rams. They gonna fail putting their future in the hands of Matt Stafford and shit.
 
Stafford is in a different tier than Dalton. The offensive supporting cast was ok. The problem has never been our offense. We've been last in the league on points, yardage per play, last in the league in sacks.... defense in mind-boggling horrible because Quinn and Patricia kept drafting slow ass defenders and spending zero draft capital on pass rushers
Ya'l had some decent years with a good defense. I remember them shits hell one of them years y'all played the Cowboys in the playoffs that was a good defense that year. Them Lions team with Megatron wasn't that bad man.
 
Swift is nice. The OL is horrible at run-blocking...good at pass blocking.

Yall muthafuckas got it twisted. I'm not dancing because the Lions gonna be good next year. I'm dancing because the Rams overpaid for Stafford and at least our new black GM, who is known for scouting good college talent, it's going to have some bullets to shoot.

We gonna be garbage next season. I'm counting on it. The team as constructed is garbage and we pushed these picks back to the next two years.

The thing is that we had no shot at being good anytime soon unless we fleeced someone like this. Now we have at least have a chance.
Cool. Yall should be ready to compete in 3 years when this coaching staff is shit canned and you have stocked some talent with all your high picks.
 
Ya'l had some decent years with a good defense. I remember them shits hell one of them years y'all played the Cowboys in the playoffs that was a good defense that year. Them Lions team with Megatron wasn't that bad man.

Man. Top 15 defense 3 times over 12 years and averaged ONE rushing game per season over 100 yards man... ONE!! those teams were trash and the one time we had a decent team the refs fucked us over for the hoe ass cowboys...lol

aint nobody winning with those teams.

Lions teams have always been fatally flawed because we've always had dumb fucking front offices taking WRs and TEs in the top 8 every other season when they had major holes in the trenches.
 
Cool. Yall should be ready to compete in 3 years when this coaching staff is shit canned and you have stocked some talent with all your high picks.

I'm hoping the new defensive coordinator eventually takes over. Yeah. I think it's a 3-year window if the GM drafts well and then we cut Goff and are on a rookie contract with some cap space.
 
Man. Top 15 defense 3 times over 12 years and averaged ONE rushing game per season over 100 yards man... ONE!! those teams were trash and the one time we had a decent team the refs fucked us over for the hoe ass cowboys...lol

aint nobody winning with those teams.

Lions teams have always been fatally flawed because we've always had dumb fucking front offices taking WRs and TEs in the top 8 every other season when they had major holes in the trenches.
Every team is flawed though. Shit you make it sound like he need a All Pro team. Top 15 defenses ain’t good enough?
 
Jared Goff excited to be with Lions franchise that wants, appreciates him
Published: Jan 31, 2021 at 04:09 PM
Michael Silver

The conversation didn't last long.
When Los Angeles Rams coach Sean McVay phoned Jared Goff Saturday night to tell the quarterback he was being traded to the Detroit Lions, Goff had barely uttered "OK" when he saw that his father, Jerry, was calling on the other line.

As a man accustomed to making quick decisions in the heat of the moment, Goff didn't hesitate.
"I've gotta go," he told his soon-to-be-former boss, and clicked off to talk to his dad about the next chapter of his NFL career.

As stunning as it might have seemed a few weeks ago -- and, certainly, 17 months ago, when the Rams signed the No. 1 overall pick in the 2016 draft to a four-year, $134-million contract extension -- Goff's football future will now unfold in Detroit.

Two years after guiding the Rams to an epic comeback road victory over the New Orleans Saints in the NFC Championship Game -- only to suffer a Super Bowl defeat that both he and McVay nobly attempted to take the blame for -- Goff was gone.

On Saturday, the Rams sent Goff, two first-round draft picks and a third-round selection to the Lions to acquire 12-year veteran Matthew Stafford, the quarterback McVay believes can reinvigorate his once cutting-edge offense.

In addition to the haul of picks, a price that certainly reflected Detroit's willingness to assume the final two years of Goff's contract, the Lions got a quarterback they believe can thrive in their revamped, run-heavy attack. And Goff, a young man who handled the Rams' disrespectful divorce strategy of the past several weeks with quiet dignity, got something valuable out of the deal, too.

After talking with Lions general manager Brad Holmes, coach Dan Campbell, offensive coordinator Anthony Lynn and other organizational powerbrokers Saturday night, Goff -- for the first time in awhile -- felt wanted. In a sense, he felt like it was draft day, all over again.

"I'm just excited to be somewhere that I know wants me and appreciates me," Goff told NFL.com on Sunday morning. "I'm moving forward and couldn't be more excited to build a winner there. I'm excited about Dan (Campbell) and the whole staff."

Were we so inclined, we could spend paragraphs and paragraphs breaking down the dissolution of the once-airtight McVay/Goff connection, delving deep into the vagaries of the Rams' schematic evolution (or lack thereof), the coach's dissatisfaction with Goff's performance (especially as it related to the QB's turnover tally the past two seasons) and the accompanying drop in confidence as the tension ramped up. With all due (dis)respect to the analytics nerds and wannabe GMs on social media and elsewhere, some very smart coaches, players and talent evaluators in the football world believe there is a legitimate case to be made on each man's behalf, and the estimation of Goff by many of those experts is much higher than many fans might assume.



Let's table that debate, for the moment, and accept the fact that McVay -- whatever his reasons -- decided Goff was no longer the guy he wants running his offense. At the very least, the messy handling of the transition from Goff to Stafford was hardly the organization's finest hour.

Routinely trashed this season on FOX telecasts, specifically those with Troy Aikman as the lead analyst, Goff could reasonably assume that McVay's words about his quarterback's play in network production meetings were far from glowing. And yet, Goff had some impressive performances in 2020 (Eagles, Bills, Bucs, Cardinals) and helped push the Rams into postseason contention. Things began to unravel in a Dec. 27 road defeat to the Seahawks that gave Seattle the NFC West title. In the third quarter, Goff suffered a dislocated right thumb after banging it on the helmet of Seahawks pass rusher Benson Mayowa, popped it back into place and finished the game. Afterward, he learned the thumb was broken.

Devastated, Goff thought his season was done. Told he could have surgery to insert three pins that might allow him to come back for the Rams' first playoff game -- assuming the team could qualify -- Goff went for it, like a team player should.

It didn't play out the way he'd hoped: Two days after the Rams' season-ending victory over the Arizona Cardinals, Goff and McVay had some hard conversations. McVay told Goff that, with a rematch against the Seahawks in Seattle looming four days later, he had to make a decision on his starter and stick with it. Given the uncertainty about how Goff would be able to throw following thumb surgery, and the tight timeline, McVay was going with backup John Wolford, who had just made his first career start against the Cardinals. Wolford would get all of the first-team reps in practice, and Goff would work off to the side.

Goff was upset. Intellectually, he understood McVay's dilemma and line of thinking. As a competitor, it killed him that he wouldn't be out there. The coach and quarterback said some difficult things to one another. They spoke for four hours. One thing McVay did not say, however, was that he was benching Goff because he wanted Wolford to play, period.

In retrospect, he probably should have.

So what happened in the playoff game? Wolford got knocked out with a neck injury the first quarter, and Goff came jogging onto the field -- with zero reps, 12 days after thumb surgery -- and gutted out a game that was one of the bigger triumphs of the McVay era.

The following Saturday in Green Bay, with Wolford inactive, Goff played well in 25-degree weather, but fellow Cal alum Aaron Rodgers and the Packers played better. Until the latter stages of the Rams' 32-18 defeat, Goff had completed all but two of his passes, but L.A.'s No. 1-ranked defense couldn't hold up against the soon-to-be three-time MVP.

After the game, McVay told Rodgers, "Watching you play, it's like watching a game in slow motion. That's how dialed in you are."

And then, in short order, the rest of the world -- including Goff -- got a sense of just how quickly McVay wanted to find a new quarterback.

First, in his postgame press conference, McVay said of Goff, "Yeah, he's the quarterback right now" -- echoing the infamous words Cardinals general manager Steve Keim uttered of starting quarterback Josh Rosen less than two months before drafting his replacement, Kyler Murray, in 2019.

The following day, in his end-of-season press conference, McVay didn't commit to Goff being on the roster in 2021, saying everything was being evaluated.


Rams GM on future at QB: 'Jared Goff is a Ram in this moment'


Five days ago, Rams general manager Les Snead had his end-of-season press conference, which played out more like a bad standup-comedy audition. In response to Goff's status, Snead twice invoked Rodgers' "beautiful mystery" phrase surrounding the 37-year-old quarterback's own future with the Packers, called Goff "a Ram right now" and delved into the specifics of how the team could move on from the quarterback while finessing the salary-cap hit. Afterward, he bemusedly asked reporters what they thought the next day's headlines would be.

In fairness to Snead and McVay, they weren't lying.
In fairness to Goff, he was blindsided. Neither Snead nor McVay had told him the team wanted to move on, or anything close to that. For a 26-year-old, who, since being thrown into a tough situation his rookie year, has consistently displayed toughness, commitment, positivity and team-centric behavior during his time with the franchise, it was a crappy way to learn he was unwanted, yet he refused to fire back.

Then came Saturday night's phone call from McVay, and the relief that followed -- a weight had been lifted off Goff's shoulders, one he hadn't realized was so heavy. McVay, for what it's worth, was vacationing in Cabo San Lucas; Stafford (for you conspiracy theorists) was also said to be in the area, according to two sources familiar with the quarterback's situation.

Goff clicked off to talk to his father, and he began to feel better. Then came the calls from his new head coach, and other Lions powerbrokers, and he heard the palpable excitement in their voices and understood that this was a two-way exchange: Yes, he was being dumped by the Rams, but he was also being courted by a long-struggling organization that hopes its latest facelift can lead to its first postseason win in three decades.

Hey, Goff can relate. He was the freshman quarterback on a Cal team that went 1-11; two years later, he led the Golden Bears to a bowl victory. Unlike most No. 1 overall picks, including Stafford, Goff's pre-NFL career was filled with consistent on-the-field adversity.

The Lions are looking for a leader, and Goff firmly believes that he's the right guy to take them where they want to go. For what it's worth: A run-heavy attack, and the play-action opportunities that should follow, would seem to be a nice match for Goff's skill set.

On Sunday morning, Goff and I talked about his journey -- and this very sharp detour north -- and some of the stress he's carried inside for the past several months. It's been a lot, but Goff didn't harp on the souring of his relationship with McVay or the end of his time in L.A. His voice was calm, hopeful, light, and even … happy?

It made sense. This isn't complicated. It's good to be wanted, and for the first time in awhile, Goff believes that is the case.
 
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Every team is flawed though. Shit you make it sound like he need a All Pro team. Top 15 defenses ain’t good enough?

I didn't say flawed. I said FATALLY flawed.

I said top 15, 3 times over 12 years. That means 3 times they touched that but most of the times they were at the bottom.

This year the Lions defense was ranked dead fucking last. You aren't going to win with the 32nd ranked defense and 30th ranked rushing attack. Come on man, stop being silly. The team is trash.

We're dead last in defense and damn near dead last in rushing. Mahomes ain't winning with this current bum ass squad.

Nigga, do you realize the only WR we have under contract is a rookie who runs a 4.74?
 
Rams management lost their fuckin minds. They damn near gave away the store to get way overrated Mr. Pick-six Matthew Stafford.. :smh:
 
I didn't say flawed. I said FATALLY flawed.

I said top 15, 3 times over 12 years. That means 3 times they touched that but most of the times they were at the bottom.

This year the Lions defense was ranked dead fucking last. You aren't going to win with the 32nd ranked defense and 30th ranked rushing attack. Come on man, stop being silly. The team is trash.

We're dead last in defense and damn near dead last in rushing. Mahomes ain't winning with this current bum ass squad.

Nigga, do you realize the only WR we have under contract is a rookie who runs a 4.74?
You using one year to justify Staffords mediocrity. I get why you doing it. I use to do it with sorry ass Romo but I seen the light. Stafford will underachieve like he been doing. There is no instance in history where a career underachiever just went on and became a completely different player. We seen this shit with Jay Cutler. They talk about how far he can throw. How good his arm is....

You can bring up last season all you want but two years ago was his receivers not Marvin Jones, Golladay and Tate? Did he not have Megatron most of his career?
 
Hold on hold on hold on

So Stafford TELLS the Lions

I WANT TO GO TO THE LA RAMS

NOT CAROLINA, NOT WASHINGTON OR ANYWHERE ELSE

but...

Stafford aint got a no trade clause

D. Watson does.

So the Lions call the Rams McVay personally calls the owner and says they have to up their offer to get Stafford?

Less then 2 years ago sept 6 2019

McVay made them give Goff over 100 million guaranteed...

But the white sports media trying to call Watson ungrateful and complaining about player empowerment?

Wtf?
 
You using one year to justify Staffords mediocrity.

Nigga. One year? Lions been trash, consistently. I'm not justifying Stafford's play. Fuck that muthafucka.. that's why I'm dancing he got traded. What I'm saying is that the whole organization has been trash. We could have had mahomes and we'd still be losing because the organization has been trash. We weren't losing because of Stafford. He's good "enough" and when we had a decent coach (Caldwell and then the dumbass organization fired their winningest coach by percentage for fatboy from NE) he was good enough to win games even with a mediocre squad because the GM still kept fucking up the draft. I don't understand why the Rams thought this was worth it though. He's not good enough nor young enough to trade away 2 first rounders and a 3rd IMO. Them niggas just really hated Goff.

Marvin Jones, Golladay and Tate... come on man.. you act like you just started watching football today. Stafford has reached every major passing yardage milestone faster than any QB in NFL history. The problem ain't never been the nigga throwing for yardage. The team is garbage because they draft Tight Ends at #8 :lol: LBs in the first round that can't tackle.. LBs in the second round that run 4.8s and CBs in the 2nd round that run 4.7s and then can't get stops.

I'll know if this GM is for real (i think he is) if he doesn't take the best WR on the board at #7 for Goff and actually takes Parsons if he's there or trades down and gets the best DL later in the 1st round.

Great WRs are a luxury item in the NFL. You get them when everything is solid (like the Bills did). I hope the Lions have learned that. They need to sop chasing the shiny items in the first and get some guys that can get to the Qb and then some LBs that can actually cover.
 
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There is no instance in history where a career underachiever just went on and became a completely different player. We seen this shit with Jay Cutler.

You got the whole argument twisted. Stafford is mehhhhhh (ranked between 10-15). We won't disagree on that. I'm not a fan of all the side-armed shit.. the fact that the nigga throws the ball 100 mph even if he's throwing to a RB on a screen play

I'm telling you that the fucking team would be garbage even if they had Mahomes because the overall lack of talent. Lions have had 2 seasons over the last two years when the defense was good. And the year they had a good one but still lacked another interior pass rusher (suh was a run stopper) they fucked drafted EBRON instead of AARON DONALD. They trash. Fuck the Lions.

Maybe the new black GM will save this trash ass organization if they get out of his way
 
Stafford has a gun.. And I remember he was running around with two women at a time after he got drafted. I like him.
 
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Ndamukong Suh to Jared Goff: You're going to a great city in Detroit



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DETROIT, MI - DECEMBER 02: Los Angeles Rams nose tackle Ndamukong Suh (93) walks off after warmups prior to the Detroit Lions versus Los Angeles Rams game on Sunday December 2, 2018 at Ford Field in Detroit, MI. (Photo by Steven King/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images)



(WXYZ) — Former Detroit Lions DT Ndamukong Suh said he talked with Jared Goff right after he was traded to the Detroit Lions for Matthew Stafford.

Suh and Goff were teammates on the Los Angeles Rams, and now Suh is with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

"I actually spoke to Jared Goff the other day when it actually happened, just to let him know that he's going to a great city in Detroit and I'm excited for him," Suh said. "I know a lot of people up there, a lot of great people in the community that will be happy to help him get his feet settled and what not."

Suh played five seasons in Detroit after being drafted by the Lions at No. 2 overall in 2010.
 
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Quarterback Jared Goff says he's ready to move on in the aftermath of a blockbuster trade that dealt him from the Los Angeles Rams to the Detroit Lions.
"As the quarterback, as the guy that's at arguably the most important position on the field, if you're in a place that you're not wanted and they want to move on from you, the feeling's mutual," Goff told the Los Angeles Times. "You don't want to be in the wrong place. It became increasingly clear that was the case."
On Saturday, the Rams traded Goff, along with two first-round picks and a third-round pick, to the Lions in exchange for quarterback Matthew Stafford.
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The No. 1 pick in the 2016 draft, Goff told the Los Angeles Times that he was unsure when the Rams decided that he would not be part of their future.
"That's the tough part right now is trying to figure that out, when did that happen?" Goff said. "Those are all conversations that I may or may not have, and try to figure it out. That's the conversation to have."
After a season-ending loss in a divisional playoff to the Green Bay Packers, Rams coach Sean McVay was asked if Goff was the quarterback. "Yeah, he's our quarterback, right now," McVay said.
Ten days later, Rams general manager Les Snead would not commit to Goff's long-term future with the team during a videoconference, telling reporters, "Jared Goff is a Ram right now. So, what's the date? January 26."
Neither the Rams nor the Lions can publicly comment about the trade until it is official at the start of the new league year on March 17.
After McVay's arrival in 2017, Goff led the Rams to consecutive division titles, an NFC championship and Super Bowl LIII appearance while twice earning Pro Bowl recognition.
Before the 2019 season, Goff signed a four-year, $134 million extension that guaranteed $110 million.
However, the offense regressed in 2019 and continued its downward turn last season despite a 10-6 finish and a wild-card playoff win. Goff finished his final season in L.A. passing for 3,952 yards and 20 touchdowns with 13 interceptions.
In four seasons with McVay, Goff accumulated 42 wins, tied with Seattle Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson, and second only during that time span to Tampa Bay Buccaneers quarterback Tom Brady.
But since 2019, Goff ranks second in the NFL with 38 turnovers.

Following the trade, Goff said he overcame an initial feeling of disappointment and grew excited after connecting with the Lions' staff, which includes general manager Brad Holmes, the Rams' former director of college scouting who had a voice in drafting Goff.
"You start to feel, I don't want to say relief is the word, but you start to feel happy, grateful, ready for a new opportunity," Goff said. "That's the biggest feeling that I was overcome with that night, and even in the days following."
After playing five seasons in L.A., Goff said he would not let a disappointing ending tarnish his lasting memories.
"Obviously, the ending wasn't favorable and wasn't fun," Goff said. "But them drafting me No. 1 overall and bringing me to a city that hasn't had a football team in a long time, being a part of that rebuild after 2016, being able to help bring L.A. football back to prominence, all that stuff I take extreme pride in. It's something that I'll always remember."
 
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