"New York Ain't Shit" - Joe Budden

[Ming Fei Hong]

Ok, why are cats taking this shit so personally? Clearly, Joe said that he's not talking about the entire city of New York.. not to mention HE'S from New York! He's talking about the fickled Rap fans who (in his opinion) don't support their own artists to the degree that they do out-of-towners... even when their own NY rappers have semi-hits. It's clear he's only speaking on a specific group of people when he says "fuck NY" and "NY ain't shit". So why would someone who's not a crab-ass NY nigga (not to e confused with just a regular NY cat) be pissed at what Joe said?

 

[supreme_math]

his only hit was rapping off the tribe called questbeat...the scenario. and they did it way better. werd i hated this song by the way. please listen to both...please

his version...
[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/TtS6IJU0eYk&hl=en&fs=1[/FLASH]

original
[FLASH]http://www.youtube.com/v/a7syWx2U8uk&hl=en&fs=1[/FLASH]

which one was better? okay. he gets no props. you rocked off a classic beat and didnt even burn it...aint come close

niggas just putting on they capes...wack is wack

 

[Mrfreddygoodbud]

Yeah but he forgettin most real nyers were outpriced and being forced to move.....

ny aint what it used to be after rudy i fucked and married my cousin ghoulliani...

everyone talkin about what he did for crime, but it was Dinkins safe city safe streets program that put more cops out there, after he cleaned out the dirty 40...
not ghouliani.... David!!

anyway he has a point but most of those cats are out of towners...

trust real nyers do support they own, but they aint goin out like they used to.

and plus that 18 year ol crowd is totally retarded when it comes to good shyt and those are the lil wayne kanye jump ups and sit down when one of their own perform, but joe should suck it up its part of the game, you aint going to fuckin "wow" em all the damn time so it wasnt his night, get a drink smoke a blunt and call it a fuckin day joe...

 

[RadioRaheem]

joe has lived in jersey for well over 20 years...plus he claims new jersey...not new york. listen to his bullshit wooden album...hes just whoring. would be supprised if he was a bgol member he hoes so badly.

If he's 32 or 34, then yeah, he probably did live in Jersey for 20 years now. Why? Cuz he was born and lived in NY till at least the age of 12. Then moved to Jersey and been there ever since... Yeah, he claims Jersey and that's fine. But that doesn't change the fact that he spent his first dozen + years in NY.

 

[RadioRaheem]

joe has lived in jersey for well over 20 years...plus he claims new jersey...not new york. listen to his bullshit wooden album...hes just whoring. would be supprised if he was a bgol member he hoes so badly.

Even the fuckers over @ MTV are aware of the shit you don't seem to know:

"Born in Spanish Harlem and raised in Queens, Budden came of age across the Hudson River in Jersey City, which he proudly continued to rep in his rhymes despite its somewhat unsavory reputation relative to more traditional hip-hop breeding grounds like Harlem, Brooklyn, the South Bronx, and Queensbridge."

http://www.mtv.com/music/artist/budden_joe/artist.jhtml#bio

 

[supreme_math]

Even the fuckers over @ MTV are aware of the shit you don't seem to know:

"Born in Spanish Harlem and raised in Queens, Budden came of age across the Hudson River in Jersey City, which he proudly continued to rep in his rhymes despite its somewhat unsavory reputation relative to more traditional hip-hop breeding grounds like Harlem, Brooklyn, the South Bronx, and Queensbridge."

why not print the whole quote...if you gonna quote...dont dare edit my shit man...thats a bgol no-no. on his first album...what state was he repping? ny or jersey. i have his first album (a present that was unwanted)...all he said was

jersey
jersey
jersey

 

[supreme_math]

Yeah but he forgettin most real nyers were outpriced and being forced to move.....

ny aint what it used to be after rudy i fucked and married my cousin ghoulliani...

everyone talkin about what he did for crime, but it was Dinkins safe city safe streets program that put more cops out there, after he cleaned out the dirty 40...
not ghouliani.... David!!

anyway he has a point but most of those cats are out of towners...

trust real nyers do support they own, but they aint goin out like they used to.

and plus that 18 year ol crowd is totally retarded when it comes to good shyt and those are the lil wayne kanye jump ups and sit down when one of their own perform, but joe should suck it up its part of the game, you aint going to fuckin "wow" em all the damn time so it wasnt his night, get a drink smoke a blunt and call it a fuckin day joe...

preach

 

[Stretch]

joe is a bum. an attention whore. name 10 hot ass joe buddens songs please

Just go listen to Mood Muzik2, Mood Muzik 3 or Halfway House youll find a lot more than 10. Joe Buddens is one of the nicest rappers in the game today. Hes way underrated...Niggas like him, and Styles P won't get the acclaim/praise they deserve.

 

[RadioRaheem]

why not print the whole quote...if you gonna quote...dont dare edit my shit man...thats a bgol no-no. on his first album...what state was he repping? ny or jersey. i have his first album (a present that was unwanted)...all he said was

jersey
jersey
jersey

Are you kidden me? OK, case in point... 2Pac repped Cali like he was born and raised out there at one point in his career. But in reality, he was born and raised in NY till his teen years. So yeah, a nigga can rep anotha town or state later on in life or presently, so Joey reppin Jersey is fine. But that does not take away from the fact of where he really grew up -- New York.

What about DJ Premier? DJ Premier is really from the South, was raised in Texas. But most people have no idea, cuz he reps NY hard with no mention of Texas.

Smarten up nigga.

 

[freshnclean]

Jersey does appreciate buddens, but theres no industry or musical outlets at all out here...........north jersey is stuck in new york's shadow and south jersey is stuck in philly's shadow

 

[fwillia]

Jersey does appreciate buddens, but theres no industry or musical outlets at all out here...........north jersey is stuck in new york's shadow and south jersey is stuck in philly's shadow

yea I know.

But at least North Jerz has forged it's own identity; with the dreadlocks, gang violence and illicit drug use... Wait a minute thats not good at all

 

[supreme_math]

fuck buddens yall should be tying to captain nice groups like big brother, the cool kids, the roots, lupe fiasco and that new q-tip album was nice. dead prez and hot groups...not this faggot

 

[Otis Supreme]

fuck buddens yall should be tying to captain nice groups like big brother, the cool kids, the roots, lupe fiasco and that new q-tip album was nice. dead prez and hot groups...not this faggot

damn math. what u got against joey? that nigga dope as fuck.

 

[Penancestare]

He's entirely correct. However, New York has also yet to produce a worthy act in recent years as well. This city has high standards and 98% of these punch line rappers don't make the cut. And the few artists that are still around have egos too large for their own good.

 

[Treacherous T. Fresh]

He said some of the artists that got on stage were Ron Browz, Maino, Red Cafe, i wouldnt be hyped to see them niggas either

 

[Im_Too_Cool]

I'm not even mad at him for saying that. He's 100% correct.

 

[Detroit's finest]

JOE IS MAD

 

[THE DRIZZY]

He's right. Back before Y2k years NYC was very relevant in the rap scene. Now. I knew it was fuckery when fake ass Bloods and Crips started to stake claim.

 

[Cock Head Jones]

To be honest... Red Cafe, Maino and Ron Browz aint really the definition of a hot ass hiphop show. I can't blame the crowd for being honest.

I hear what joe is saying though.

 

[O.Red]

The King Of Jersey

Joey remains a nobody...

 

[RAF]

He said some of the artists that got on stage were Ron Browz, Maino, Red Cafe, i wouldnt be hyped to see them niggas either

exactly my point..NY aint gon scream and have hands up for fucking maino, red cafe, or Ron Karaoke Browz...come on man...since when being an artist from NY was enough to get love? go check out a jay-z, nas, LL show...tell me if the floor aint shaking.

PS: Also, someone said NY shows love to out of towners. true. but that person forgot to mention that those out of towners are T.I, Jeezy, kanye, Weezy, Game, Snoop, etc...the day you show me NY screamin for shawty Lo..i leave this board.

 

[coolie569]

I love Joe Budden's music, but he really needs to shut the fuck up all ready. I don't know what club he was in but that can make all the difference.

Was the club and the people in the club checking for that kind of music?

Most of these NY rappers make songs like they are from the south.
Case in Point MIMS.... I swore this nigga was from the South when I heard that this is when I'm hot song.

So depending on the club you are in real NY rap fans don't want to hear no bullshit. If you make good music we will support that shit, everything from Kanye to Jeezy, to Outkast and everything in between.

I've been in a club when BlackStar performed and please believe NY fans lost they damn mind.

That damn Dave Chappelle block party video in BK it looked like a lot of support to me.

When NY rappers make good music then they will get the support they deserve.

 

[2 ONE 3]

He said some of the artists that got on stage were Ron Browz, Maino, Red Cafe, i wouldnt be hyped to see them niggas either

Word...Ain't none of the niggas worth gettin hype for...Better yet, I hope that shit was a free show cuz I'll be damned if I paid just to stand for hours and look up on a stage like this everytime another wack rapper takes the mic:

 

[thundercat]

On some realness, this is reminscent of all cities, not just NYC.

Example: Washington D.C.

The main stream artists that came from here do not get love in their own city first. They gotta be accepted outside of D.C. before they ever come home to any love.

Dave Chappelle broke to New York, and when New York showed him love, he came home and D.C. accepted him.

Mya Harrison left to L.A. and when she was doing her thang, and started getting some pub on collabos and what not, she came back to D.C. and got love.

The list is endless, but this it the new trend. And Joey's right. Aint nobody in ya own town tryna give yuo nothing on the come up, but let yo ass blow the fuck up and make it somewhere else... they'll be cosigning cars for you the next time you come home.

C/S

 

[pdlc]

who headlined this whack ass show?

maino?

 

[Game Plan]

doesn't he rep jersey anyway? don't care if he was born in NY or not, last i checked he rep'ed NJ and i don't even know how much support they givin him over there

maybe if NY (and i'm from NY) had rappers that i gave a fuck about then maybe you'd see more support. who is seriously checking for maino or ron browz? if they good we support, if not then fuck em. it's not that we don't show our ppl love, it's that our rappers right now suck, simple

and what is this shit you all talkin about w/ budden and his girl?

 

[malaki]

face it you NY niggas haven't really been putting out good rap for a minute now....used to run the game now its

 

[Otis Supreme]

damn this is only 2 pages?

 

[Mentor B]

Well...I don't know...back when I lived in St. Louis (late 90's, early 00's), everybody hated Nelly - but that was only outside the city. His home town showed him love from the start 'til he got that hit.

So it suppose to start where you from...

I know Gang Starr or Guru rather had to leave Boston and finally got love in NY and went from there...it all depends.

 

[Jedah]

I'm tryin to ignore supreme math but I'm startin to believe buddens fucked his girl or somethin. Dat nigga bitter as hell. Buddens is nice point blank period. His catalog mad deep. But u wouldn't kno if u get ur music from MTV

 

[master-ceo]

Real Talk! Niggas give the out of towners, nuff respect. This type of disrespect started in the Death Row Day's.

 

[jiggylo09]

Fcuk Ny!

 

[Treacherous T. Fresh]

exactly my point..NY aint gon scream and have hands up for fucking maino, red cafe, or Ron Karaoke Browz...come on man...since when being an artist from NY was enough to get love? go check out a jay-z, nas, LL show...tell me if the floor aint shaking.

PS: Also, someone said NY shows love to out of towners. true. but that person forgot to mention that those out of towners are T.I, Jeezy, kanye, Weezy, Game, Snoop, etc...the day you show me NY screamin for shawty Lo..i leave this board.

Word...Ain't none of the niggas worth gettin hype for...Better yet, I hope that shit was a free show cuz I'll be damned if I paid just to stand for hours and look up on a stage like this everytime another wack rapper takes the mic:

c/s wht yall said. he cant say ny aint shit if the crowd aint getting hype for two mixtape rappers and the guy who did ether for nas. you get better artists you get a better response from the crowd

 

[Otis Supreme]

exactly my point..NY aint gon scream and have hands up for fucking maino, red cafe, or Ron Karaoke Browz...come on man...since when being an artist from NY was enough to get love? go check out a jay-z, nas, LL show...tell me if the floor aint shaking.

PS: Also, someone said NY shows love to out of towners. true. but that person forgot to mention that those out of towners are T.I, Jeezy, kanye, Weezy, Game, Snoop, etc...the day you show me NY screamin for shawty Lo..i leave this board.

Word...Ain't none of the niggas worth gettin hype for...Better yet, I hope that shit was a free show cuz I'll be damned if I paid just to stand for hours and look up on a stage like this everytime another wack rapper takes the mic:

c/s wht yall said. he cant say ny aint shit if the crowd aint getting hype for two mixtape rappers and the guy who did ether for nas. you get better artists you get a better response from the crowd

good points.

 

[Treacherous T. Fresh]

good points.

im sure joe has done some shows in jersey or anywhere else & the crowd was like are you done yet?