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I can give Steph a pass the same way Lebron got a pass with playing on teams that don't make the playoffs. Steph is not the level of player Lebron is but no one ever doubted him and Steph is in the same boat. Sometimes no matter what you do as a MVP if your team sucks they just suck.
 
I can give Steph a pass the same way Lebron got a pass with playing on teams that don't make the playoffs. Steph is not the level of player Lebron is but no one ever doubted him and Steph is in the same boat. Sometimes no matter what you do as a MVP if your team sucks they just suck.
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Here's Shaq Coon Neil at it again. Dude is mad that Gobert got a supermax deal. Is he worth it,no but why hate on a player for getting his....


Never seen a former player so fucking bitter...

Hell, I agree with Shaq. Head scratching as to why Gobert got 200 million. Could have got a lot more for 200 million
 
Hey. Am I the only one who thinks KD is going to jump of the Brooklyn bridge after this year is over. THAT shit needs to really turn around because his departure from GS was idiotic. The equivalent of rejecting an all spade hand. The only person I could see doing such a thing is KD. Ask yourself this question. If LeBron had a team that was arguably one of the top two teams EVER would he even THINK about going somewhere else? Fuck no. LeBron is all about the winning. What professional athlete who's worth a damn ISN'T? Answer? KD. (lol)

I knew KD was leaving his last year, he had to. KD knew that he was riding the coattails of Steph and the Warriors. He knew that his championships and Finals MVP’s didn’t hold the same weight as others.

He had to leave to truly define his legacy and put his stamp in a team and lead them to the Finals.

Yes he’s an all-time great, but we all know that his legacy’s a bit tarnished for going to the Warriors.
 
Hey. Am I the only one who thinks KD is going to jump of the Brooklyn bridge after this year is over. THAT shit needs to really turn around because his departure from GS was idiotic. The equivalent of rejecting an all spade hand. The only person I could see doing such a thing is KD. Ask yourself this question. If LeBron had a team that was arguably one of the top two teams EVER would he even THINK about going somewhere else? Fuck no. LeBron is all about the winning. What professional athlete who's worth a damn ISN'T? Answer? KD. (lol)
KD signed a 4 year deal; so he has 2 left after this year; it will be a lot of pressure on both him and Kyrie to make the finals; not that they cant because the nets have a talented team; but who knows if they will put it together when it matters most...
 
You don't think that would be like having Wiggins 2.0?
I was on the Wiggins band Wagon when the Warriors picked him up. But I don't know man, he may what people say he is. If you trying to get to the playoffs, I think Zach Lavine would be a better option.

Zach would give you some of Klays production offensively. Wiggins is just so inefficient at scoring
 
Hell, I agree with Shaq. Head scratching as to why Gobert got 200 million. Could have got a lot more for 200 million


He's going after Gobert because he feels he doesn't deserve the 200 million. What kind of person gets bitter over something like that.

Does Gobert deserves 200 million...no but what person turns down 200 million dollars,especially if your boss is offering it to you..
 
I knew KD was leaving his last year, he had to. KD knew that he was riding the coattails of Steph and the Warriors. He knew that his championships and Finals MVP’s didn’t hold the same weight as others.

He had to leave to truly define his legacy and put his stamp in a team and lead them to the Finals.

Yes he’s an all-time great, but we all know that his legacy’s a bit tarnished for going to the Warriors.
All time great and legacy tarnished doesnt quite sound right; dude KD didnt have to leave shit; period; hes gonna go down as an all time great regardless if he would have stayed or left; Top 10 player and perhaps arguably best scorer; Dude is stamped no matter what he would have done...
 
All time great and legacy tarnished doesnt quite sound right; dude KD didnt have to leave shit; period; hes gonna go down as an all time great regardless if he would have stayed or left; Top 10 player and perhaps arguably best scorer; Dude is stamped no matter what he would have done...

Those who know basketball know...
 
I knew KD was leaving his last year, he had to. KD knew that he was riding the coattails of Steph and the Warriors. He knew that his championships and Finals MVP’s didn’t hold the same weight as others.

He had to leave to truly define his legacy and put his stamp in a team and lead them to the Finals.

Yes he’s an all-time great, but we all know that his legacy’s a bit tarnished for going to the Warriors.
Lets be real..lol The only reason people were saying shit was because KD was torching niggas. Basically hated that fool to a bad situation
 
Yea I hate the nigga shaq has become

I will admit my bias towards current NBA players and contracts. I can remember the day Danny Ferry and John "Hot Rod" Williams got paid and was like THIS SHIT is going to set a bad precedent. The following years so kids get ridiculous contracts while the best player of all time earned less. Today teams pay tons for nothing special.
 
Lets be real..lol The only reason people were saying shit was because KD was torching niggas. Basically hated that fool to a bad situation

It’s easier to torch niggas when you have two of the best shooters in NBA history and you can’t be double teamed.

It’s easier to torch niggas when a team can’t put the sole focus on stopping you because the 2-time MVP is on the court and another greatest shooter ever’s on the court.

KD’s a great player, but let’s call a spade a spade.
 
He's going after Gobert because he feels he doesn't deserve the 200 million. What kind of person gets bitter over something like that.

Does Gobert deserves 200 million...no but what person turns down 200 million dollars,especially if your boss is offering it to you..
Shaq is a big and he hates bigs who can't work in the paint. That is just the competitor in Shaq. Also, Shaq be trolling also :lol:
 
I will admit my bias towards current NBA players and contracts. I can remember the day Danny Ferry and John "Hot Rod" Williams got paid and was like THIS SHIT is going to set a bad precedent. The following years so kids get ridiculous contracts while the best player of all time earned less. Today teams pay tons for nothing special.
I dont know how anyone can be bias against players getting paid; the top players are not paid what they are worth, hell most players arent paid what they are worth; the amount of revenue they generate is crazy; players have never been paid what they are worth; and the way the cba is setup, probably never will....
 
And people who know know KD legacy is fine regardless; shit is retarded and only fans say that shit...

Most great basketball players say the same thing regarding KD’s move, most say “I wouldn’t have done it”. And those who know know what that means.

You’re entitled to your opinion and interpretation.
 
It’s easier to torch niggas when you have two of the best shooters in NBA history and you can’t be double teamed.

It’s easier to torch niggas when a team can’t put the sole focus on stopping you because the 2-time MVP is on the court and another greatest shooter ever’s on the court.

KD’s a great player, but let’s call a spade a spade.
It is a silly argument because KD with talent would get a chip. If KD played for Miami, he would have beat the lakers in the finals
 
It’s easier to torch niggas when you have two of the best shooters in NBA history and you can’t be double teamed.

It’s easier to torch niggas when a team can’t put the sole focus on stopping you because the 2-time MVP is on the court and another greatest shooter ever’s on the court.

KD’s a great player, but let’s call a spade a spade.
It is easier no doubt just like its easier to win chips when one is playing with Bosh and Wade or AD as oppose to Larry Hughes and Delonte West; or playing with Paul Pierce and Ray Allen as oppose to Wally Scz; that still doesnt take away from anyone greatness or legacy...
 
It is a silly argument because KD with talent would get a chip. If KD played for Miami, he would have beat the lakers in the finals

It’d be a silly argument if the Warriors hadn’t been to the Finals the previous two seasons and weren’t just coming off of a 73 win season and leading 4-1 in the Finals.
 
Most great basketball players say the same thing regarding KD’s move, most say “I wouldn’t have done it”. And those who know know what that means.

You’re entitled to your opinion and interpretation.
My 1st cuz is married to Charles Oakley, who is best friends with MJ by the way; I chill with Charles from time to time; tell me all types of stories as it relates to players in the NBA; he has mad respect from players; he says the same thing privately that nothing wrong with what KD did and none of the players that he hangs with and talks to look down on him for it; ill take his word over fans....
 
It’d be a silly argument if the Warriors hadn’t been to the Finals the previous two seasons and weren’t just coming off of a 73 win season and leading 4-1 in the Finals.
It is a silly argument because no matter where a player goes he needs talent. Whether you recruit the talent or join them it is the same thing
 
It is easier no doubt just like its easier to win chips when one is playing with Bosh and Wade or AD as oppose to Larry Hughes and Delonte West; or playing with Paul Pierce and Ray Allen as oppose to Wally Scz; that still doesnt take away from anyone greatness or legacy...

Greatness no, legacy yes. Again, we just have differing opinions on the matter.

Kyrie wanted to get from under Lebron to lead his own team to the Finals and to championships. Playing with Lebron meant it’s Lebron’s team and that Kyrie wasn’t the one leading them to success.

Playing for the Warriors meant KD was playing on Steph’s team and that Steph was leading them to success. The success that they already had that KD cemented.
 
My 1st cuz is married to Charles Oakley, who is best friends with MJ by the way; I chill with Charles from time to time; tell me all types of stories as it relates to players in the NBA; he has mad respect from players; he says the same thing privately that nothing wrong with what KD did and none of the players that he hangs with and talks to look down on him for it; ill take his word over fans....
Yeah it is a silly argument because whether you recruit or join a team, it is the same thing
 
Greatness no, legacy yes. Again, we just have differing opinions on the matter.

Kyrie wanted to get from under Lebron to lead his own team to the Finals and to championships. Playing with Lebron meant it’s Lebron’s team and that Kyrie wasn’t the one leading them to success.

Playing for the Warriors meant KD was playing on Steph’s team and that Steph was leading them to success. The success that they already had that KD cemented.
That whole whose team it is stupid, ask kyrie now about that; or ask Kobe after Shaq left and vice versa; it doesnt matter whose team it is; that is a fan and media notion that has been perpetuated for nothing other than debates....
 
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