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The league isn’t boycotting anything; the NBA needs collective bereavement
If they don’t want to play, they shouldn’t have to. I shouldn’t have to chalk talk the value of Black lives in order for that to be reasonable.


The game clock sits at 0.0 after the scheduled start time of Game 5 of the Eastern Conference first round between the Milwaukee Bucks and the Orlando Magic during the 2020 NBA playoffs at AdventHealth Arena at ESPN Wide World of Sports Complex on Aug. 26 in Lake Buena Vista, Florida. The game was postponed after a vote by players on Aug. 26. Kevin C. Cox/Getty Images
BY CLINTON YATES@CLINTONYATES
August 27, 2020

The NBA has no real leverage in motivating police forces to be less violent by not playing basketball. While the action might make a lot more people take notice, there is no genuine link between the two. What NBA players staged and executed on Wednesday, understandably, is a walkout.


In labor terms, the Milwaukee Bucks’ decision not to play in Game 5 of the NBA playoffs would qualify as a wildcat strike, which is when members of an organization decide to no longer work under the same confines their union has agreed to. It’s a technical term for a reason. In this case, it also happens to be the most accurate.
Boycotts are mostly consumer-led changes in habits designed to economically or say, functionally, cripple the operations of the very people involved in the acts. When Black folks stayed away from buses in the Jim Crow era of the American South, it wasn’t to prove some theoretical point that disrespecting Black people was wrong. Through economic force, it showed that the industry could not survive without such a large part of its ridership.
When Americans boycotted the Shell Oil Co. in the 1980s due to its connections to the apartheid regime in South Africa, it was an action that had in fact been preceded by the United Nations some 20 years earlier when it asked member states to stop the sale of arms to the nation that was home to Nelson Mandela. That begat the academic boycotts across the nation in 1965, in which the scholar community simply refused to engage with South African places of higher learning in any way. The effect was a calculated risk to isolate a place that we generally viewed as bad actors toward the greater good.

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How do I know? Because this is what my parents dedicated their lives to eradicating, working in international development. I saw with my own eyes in this country and that one too the effect of what it means to be an active player in civil disobedience. In South Africa, there were many days when whisper campaigns led to something known as stay-aways. Where black domestic workers simply didn’t come in to work en masse, just to remind their employers that they were people, too. Just because an act of protest or demonstration has a social or political bent doesn’t immediately make it a boycott.
Every disagreement is not a fight.
Sounds simple enough, if not even obvious, but for Black folks in America, that isn’t an assumption that’s taken when we decide to speak up on behalf of our own dignity. So, when the NBA’s players decided en masse that they were not going to play games in the bubble, the level of threat to the league was immediately qualified as a “boycott” for reasons that are unfair to everyone involved.
One of the main microaggressions we are most routinely expected to deal with is a de facto escalation of confrontational intent, as viewed by the white people who believe their decency is being checked. Every dispute becomes an “argument.” The most basic setting of boundaries is viewed as an attack. Or, as is the case of Jacob Blake in Kenosha, Wisconsin, the possession of a knife is instantly classified as a justifiable reason to be shot.
As a Black person, talking to people inside the NBA bubble and hearing the voices of LA Clippers head coach Doc Rivers, Boston Celtics All-Star Jayson Tatum, or even superstar LA Clipper Paul George, one sentiment is obvious: They’re tired … we’re tired.
They are overworked mentally – perhaps in many cases physically – and overall just emotionally taxed to the point of needing a break. That should be good enough but not only for us as people who genuinely believe Black lives matter, but also to fans of the league who want the best product, never mind employers who claim to care about their players. But again, by escalating the request for decency, the temperature is raised to a point that disrespects the necessary order of operations for change to happen safely anyway.
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“No” does not mean “f— you.” And if that has to be explained at every turn, it doesn’t matter whether anyone in power theoretically “agrees” with the cause, if every exchange is overwrought and misidentified to the point of intense conflict.
As for Milwaukee and the Bucks themselves, this is very specific. This is where they live. It’s legitimately an unavoidable fact of life that affects all folks in that particular part of the world. So, when the team was able to speak to Wisconsin attorney general Josh Kaul and Lt. Gov. Mandela Barnes, that struck me as prudent.
Not playing a basketball game or 10 – who knows – of course isn’t “wrong” or somehow “stupid,” but when playing against a stacked deck, effectiveness is more important than bluster, not respectability politics.
Which gets to the question that keeps coming up: What does this solve? What do you want? Maybe they don’t know. They shouldn’t have to. A collective bereavement pause on the league might be what everyone needs anyway. Lord knows how tough 2020 has been on everyone. But the point is that should be good enough.
If you’re going to plaster Black Lives Matter all over the court, it shouldn’t mean that every matter relating to black existence should be a matter of proverbial or real life-or-death. Alas, when framed as such, it undercuts our own ability to write the path to our safety overall. But, because the pangs of power set off internalized alarms of soft supremacy whenever Black folks speak up, we are forced to answer questions that push everything into a binary. It’s entirely possible that they don’t know how to go about this right now, but something has to change. It’s not like what anyone was doing has been working, so why not let the aggrieved parties take the time to figure out a solution? Otherwise, it’s disingenuous. And we know the difference.
That said, if the only “progress” we get out of this is players proving to themselves that when they feel their humanity is at risk, then they are allowed to say so, that’s a net positive. Offending rich white people on its own should not be a crime, but because this is America, we’ve somehow convinced ourselves that it is. And the real sacrifice (which people bizarrely seem to morally require to feel satisfied with change) these players are making is that it is required in taking the chance with your life in embarrassing a non-Black person in a public setting. The money is one thing, the pride is another. If they don’t want to play, they shouldn’t have to. Simple as that. I shouldn’t have to chalk talk the value of Black lives in order for that to be reasonable.
Ultimately it comes down to the most basic tenets of agency: trust. If nobody believes NBA players, teenagers on the street or Black women about how much pain they’re in, it doesn’t matter if it makes sense. The burden of proof on Black dignity is not the safe comprehension of white folks. This is what “Black Lives Matter” means. They matter to us, whether they matter to you, or not. Because we don’t have the option to opt out.
Because that’s called privilege. A thing we don’t have, a fact that y’all will never let us forget. Even when you think you’re on the right side of history.
 
I haven't seen it

But why would him endangering his family to live in an aggressively racist neighborhood

Be seen as some act of heroism or social change?

What he doing isn't sitting in the front of the bus, sitting at a lunch counter or bussing.

You rich and black.

Move

And tell EVERYONE EVEYWHERE

what a sh*thole that community is

And live in a upper middle class black hood

Invest in affordable housing for black folk.

Paying thousands to live scared don't make sense to me.

Legit makes no sense to live in fear
 

Wisconsin’s Governor Called a Special Session on Police Reform. Republicans Stopped It After 30 Seconds

David Daley
September 1, 2020, 8:13 AM EDT·6 mins read


A Kenosha, Wisconsin, police officer shot an unarmed black man seven times in the back. An armed teenage vigilante has been charged with five felonies for shooting three people, and killing two, at the ensuing protests. As marches continued, with armed white snipers observed on downtown Kenosha rooftops, the state’s governor called for a special session of the legislature on police violence and social justice.

When the Milwaukee Bucks sat out an NBA playoff game Wednesday, amid national protests after a Kenosha police officer shot Jacob Blake seven times in the back, the basketball team joined the call for their state legislature to reconvene and take action.

On Monday, Wisconsin’s state Senate and Assembly met. But it was more of a skeletal session than a special session. Both chambers gaveled in and out almost immediately. A television camera panned a gallery of empty mahogany chairs. By NBA standards, neither chamber stayed in session even the length of the 24-second shot clock. “Senators do not need to be present,” the Senate president’s chief of staff told reporters, “and no bills are being taken up.”

Wisconsin’s Republican-controlled legislature cannot be budged. Not by the governor. Not by the people. Not by vigilantes in the streets. Not by the Milwaukee Bucks. Wisconsin’s brutally gerrymandered state legislative maps — by almost every standard, the nation’s most biased — guarantee that they can’t even be budged at the ballot box. And so they remain an immovable and unaccountable force.

This is the very real damage to representative democracy done by gerrymandering. It’s hardly the first example here in Wisconsin, where citizens have so little control over their own representatives you can scarcely call it a democracy at all.

Tony Evers, the state’s Democratic governor, has twice before tried to call the legislature into special session. Twice before, the legislature sneered.
Last November, when Evers ordered a special session on background checks for guns — a measure supported by 80 percent of Wisconsin residents — both chambers convened, then immediately adjourned without debate. The assembly gaveled out after 15 seconds. The Senate remained in session twice that long: Approximately 30 seconds.

Then in April, as the pandemic raged across Wisconsin, Evers called another special session and asked to postpone a statewide election until mid-May and to do all voting by mail. The assembly took 17 seconds to adjourn without action. The Senate adjourned even faster and no Republicans even bothered to attend; they had the clerk call the session and then immediately ended it.

Ordinarily, elected representatives might think twice before stiff-arming legislation backed by 80 percent of the state, or fear the wrath of the people for forcing voters to cast ballots, in person, and risk catching Covid-19 simply by exercising their right to vote. Wisconsin’s legislature, however, has insulated themselves from any consequences — indeed, insulated themselves from the people and the ballot box — by the district lines they drew themselves during the 2011 decennial redistricting.

Republican operatives and savvy mapmakers barricaded themselves into a Madison law office, dubbed it the “map room,” claimed attorney-client privilege for their furtive work, required legislators to sign a non-disclosure agreement before even being shown their own new district, and designed fancy regression models that ensured Democrats would hold a minority of seats even they won up to 57 percent of the statewide vote.
The maps have exceeded their designers high expectations all decade long. In 2018, for example, Wisconsin voters re-elected a Democratic U.S. senator, backed Evers for governor over two-term Republican incumbent Scott Walker, placed Democrats in every elected statewide office, and preferred Democratic assembly candidates by a margin of 190,000 votes. Republicans held the chamber, 64-35. They won 64 percent of the seats, with 46 percent of the votes.

How rigged are Wisconsin’s maps? So rigged that the Harvard’s Electoral Integrity Project, which quantifies the health of electoral systems in America and worldwide, rated the state’s electoral boundaries as a three on a scale of one to 100. This is not only the worst rating in the nation, it’s lower than any nation graded by the EIP has ever scored on this measure. This is not a rating received by a functioning democracy. It is the rating of an authoritarian state.

How little democracy exists in Wisconsin? If gerrymandering is the art of packing as many of the other party’s seats into as few districts as possible, then cracking the rest by spreading them thinly amongst the remaining seats, Wisconsin Republicans are a combination of Picasso, Monet, and Michelangelo. They packed Democratic voters into their districts with such ruthless efficiency that Republicans didn’t even bother contesting 30 of the Democratic winners. This purple state, often considered the Electoral College tipping point, has almost no competitive assembly seats. Only five of the 99 assembly seats were decided by fewer than five percentage points.

It begins with gerrymandering. It leads to this tyranny of an unaccountable minority. And it ends with an entire decade in which the people’s representatives in Wisconsin have placed themselves beyond the reach of the people.

Legislators can brazenly ignore the will of the people because they have gerrymandered the maps to ensure their legislative majorities survive, knowing that the maps render them bulletproof from facing consequences at the polls. The gerrymandered legislature then enacted one of the most restrictive voter-ID laws in the nation, which one study found could have deterred as many as 23,000 voters in the state’s two largest counties alone in 2016 from casting a ballot — more than the total number of votes by which Donald Trump carried the state. They forced voters to the polls during a pandemic. They loosened the state’s gun laws, then ignored the governor’s efforts to enact broadly popular gun control. And now, even with citizens in the streets and the unprecedented sight of the Bucks walking away from a playoff game, MLB’s Milwaukee Brewers boycotting play, and the NFL’s Green Bay Packers refusing to practice, the legislature remains unreachable.

Wisconsin has become a laboratory for enduring minority rule. Every legislative seat in the nation will be redrawn next year after the census. Your state might be next.

David Daley is the author of the national bestseller “Ratf**ked: Why Your Vote Doesn’t Count” and “Unrigged: How Americans Are Battling Back to Save Democracy.”

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Starting with Coon Smith and Perkins.....


They don't owe Kyrie shit

So if they didn't play, was that supposed to stop police shootings?

and how is them playing stopping anyone else from doing anything?

Everything is a fuckin distraction. Are we upset at movie theaters? What about Mulan streaming? Upset at Meg for getting shot in the foot?

Distractions

and who do you hear more from over the past month, Kyrie or the players playing in the bubble and the announcers constantly mentioning their message.
 
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Kyrie Irving denies he was taking a shot at LeBron James with Kevin Durant quotes



Charles Curtis

October 2, 2020 9:46 am
NBA Twitter was, er, atwitter for much of Thursday when the Brooklyn Nets’ Kyrie Irving spoke on a Kevin Durant podcast about how, for the first time in Irving’s career, he’ll have someone else he trusts who can make shots too.
That, of course, made everyone think he was throwing shade at his former Cleveland Cavaliers teammate LeBron James.
But in a follow-up video, Irving denied it.
“Why must it always be brother against brother? Why?” he wondered. “If I’m addressing anyone, I’ll say their name.”
“Don’t listen to the false narratives, let people live their lives,” he continued. “It’s just a game. Talk about the art, talk about the sport, we talk openly, we talk freely.”
He then went on to say media was “entertainment” and he wouldn’t “let it put me against anybody, anymore, at any point.”



Obviously, we can’t get inside Irving’s head to know if he was not-so-subtly taking a shot at James. But what about this angle: it’s probably a really good idea to pump up his relationship with Durant since they’ll be taking the court together for the first time since they signed in Brooklyn. Think more about it that way.
 
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Kyrie Irving denies he was taking a shot at LeBron James with Kevin Durant quotes


Charles Curtis

October 2, 2020 9:46 am
NBA Twitter was, er, atwitter for much of Thursday when the Brooklyn Nets’ Kyrie Irving spoke on a Kevin Durant podcast about how, for the first time in Irving’s career, he’ll have someone else he trusts who can make shots too.
That, of course, made everyone think he was throwing shade at his former Cleveland Cavaliers teammate LeBron James.
But in a follow-up video, Irving denied it.
“Why must it always be brother against brother? Why?” he wondered. “If I’m addressing anyone, I’ll say their name.”
“Don’t listen to the false narratives, let people live their lives,” he continued. “It’s just a game. Talk about the art, talk about the sport, we talk openly, we talk freely.”
He then went on to say media was “entertainment” and he wouldn’t “let it put me against anybody, anymore, at any point.”



Obviously, we can’t get inside Irving’s head to know if he was not-so-subtly taking a shot at James. But what about this angle: it’s probably a really good idea to pump up his relationship with Durant since they’ll be taking the court together for the first time since they signed in Brooklyn. Think more about it that way.

Biggest clown ever. Of course he was. Then he wants to get all self righteous w/ that brother against brother shit.

I don't see how people deal w/ his shit. I get he is talented, but he is so self absorbed and arrogant.
 

Celtics owner blames Kyrie Irving’s departure for struggles


There’s no love lost between the Boston Celtics and Kyrie Irving. Despite parting ways nearly two years ago, Cs managing partner, CEO, and Governor Wyc Grousbeck recently went on the record to say that it was Kyrie’s departure that led to the team’s recent struggles.


In a recent interview with NBC Sports Boston Grousbeck explains why he believes Irving’s decision to jump ship continues to have an adverse effect on Boston to this very day:

“We had hoped Kyrie would stay forever and lead us all the way,” Grousbeck admitted. “He’s on maybe the best team on the league right now and so that’s that. That change touched off a lot of stuff because he left, we weren’t maybe able to recruit free agents in the same way, and a bit of a domino effect. But it is what it is. We went for it with Kyrie. We had a good year with him. He tried hard and then he moved on.”
Talk about keeping a grudge, right? Grousbeck tried to be as neutral as he could, but it is clear in his statement above that he continues to rue Irving’s decision to leave the Celtics to join Kevin Durant with the Brooklyn Nets in the summer of 2019.

To be fair, Boston still made the Conference Finals last year sans Kyrie. You also have to remember that they also lost him to injury towards the latter part of the 2017-18 season, where they would also make a trip to the East Finals. In the one season they had Irving healthy for a playoff run (2018-19), they were ousted by the Milwaukee Bucks in five games in the second round. Just stating facts here.
 
Kyrie Irving focused on issues other than hoops, says 'basketball is just not the most important thing to me right now'

The Brooklyn Nets are about to begin their postseason pursuit of an NBA championship, but Kyrie Irving says he's currently focused on issues other than basketball.

Irving declined to answer game-related questions Saturday after Brooklyn's 105-91 victory over the Chicago Bulls and made multiple references to the ongoing violence between Israel and Palestine.



"I'm not going to lie to you guys, a lot of stuff is going on in this world, and basketball is just not the most important thing to me right now," Irving said. "There's a lot of things going on overseas. All our people are still in bondage across the world, and there's a lot of dehumanization going on.
"So I apologize if I'm not going to be focused on y'all's questions. It's just too much going on in the world for me to just be talking about basketball. I focus on this most of the time, 24/7, but it's just too much going on in this world not to address. It's just sad to see this s--- going on. It's not just in Palestine, not just in Israel. It's all over the world, and I feel it. I'm very compassionate to it -- to all races, all cultures and to see it, to see a lot of people being discriminated against, based on their religion, color of their skin, what they believe in. It's just sad."
Israeli airstrikes on Gaza City flattened three buildings and killed at least 33 people Sunday, medics said, making it the deadliest single attack since heavy fighting broke out between Israel and the territory's militant Hamas rulers nearly a week ago.

The latest outbreak of violence began in east Jerusalem last month, when Palestinian protests and clashes with police broke out in response to Israeli police tactics during Ramadan and the threatened eviction of dozens of Palestinian families by Jewish settlers. Hamas fired rockets toward Jerusalem late Monday, triggering the Israeli assault on Gaza.

The turmoil has also spilled over elsewhere, fueling protests in the occupied West Bank and stoking violence within Israel between its Jewish and Arab citizens, with clashes and vigilante attacks on people and property. At least 181 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza, including 52 children and 31 women, with 1,225 wounded. Eight people in Israel have been killed, including a 5-year-old boy and a soldier.

"I don't care which way you stand on -- either side," Irving said. "If you're a human being, then you support the anti-war effort. There's a lot of people losing their lives -- children, a lot of babies, and that's just what I'm focused on.

"So if you guys want to ask me questions about the game, I really don't care about it except for everyone leaving the game healthy and being able to go home to their families."

Irving scored 22 points Saturday and was reunited on the floor with fellow Nets stars Kevin Durant and James Harden. It marked just the eighth time this season that Brooklyn's Big Three played together -- and the first time since Feb. 13.

The Nets (47-24) are second in the Eastern Conference and can clinch the No. 2 seed in the playoffs with a victory in their regular-season finale Sunday over the Cavaliers. Brooklyn also would secure the No. 2 seed if the third-place Bucks (46-25) lose Sunday to the Bulls.

Irving, who was fined earlier this month for violating the NBA's media access rules, was asked Saturday about maintaining a personal balance between basketball and social issues that are important to him.

"It's a job," he said. "I was raised as a survivor. My family comes from practically the bottom in the South Bronx. They came out of some extreme conditions. I'm the product of a lot of sacrifice. ... It's a unique balance because you're on a platform or industry that -- a lot of people that are around it or surviving it don't really get a chance to say what they believe in, or they have to play it safe, or they have to worry about money, or they have to worry about what people are saying.

"I just think you can't be afraid to say what you believe in. It's not about consuming information or trying to be right or politically correct. It's about doing what God intends us all to do -- that's to stand on the good word of treating everyone with respect, compassion and love."

 
Kyrie Irving, Brooklyn Nets plan to 'just keep it strictly basketball' during upcoming trip to Boston

NEW YORK -- After the Nets took a 2-0 series lead over the Celtics on Tuesday, Brooklyn All-Star guard Kyrie Irving contemplated the reception that he would receive from the TD Garden crowd when his team travels to Boston -- where he used to play -- for Game 3 on Friday.
"I am just looking forward to competing with my teammates and hopefully, we can just keep it strictly basketball; there's no belligerence or racism going on -- subtle racism," Irving said. "People yelling s--- from the crowd, but even if it is, it's part of the nature of the game and we're just going to focus on what we can control."

Asked whether he had ever had racist comments made toward him while in TD Garden, Irving said that he "was not the only one that can attest to this" and shrugged his hands.

Black athletes have often recounted stories of being the target of racism while at Boston sites. Bill Russell, who won 11 NBA championships with the Celtics, once called Boston "a flea market of racism." More recently, Baltimore Orioles center fielder Adam Jones said in 2017 he was called the n-word several times by Boston Red Sox fans.

"It is what it is," Irving said Monday. But out of the camera frame that Irving was using to talk to reporters through, a person out of view, said: "The whole world knows it." And Irving echoed, "The whole world knows it."

Irving played for the Celtics from 2017 to 2019, when he signed with the Nets in free agency. Since signing in Brooklyn, Irving has returned to play in TD Garden twice: once in the 2021 preseason and once on Dec. 25, 2021. At the time, the NBA was not permitting fans in the arena because of the COVID-19 pandemic, so Irving did not play in front of the Boston faithful.


The Celtics will have 25 percent of their 19,580 capacity for Game 3. It will go up to "near full capacity", the team announced, for Game 4 on Sunday.
Irving had 15 points, six rebounds and six assists Tuesday, as Brooklyn cruised, 130-108.

 
While Boston is in the spot light, dont forget Milwaukee, the second Giannis leaves lets see how long it takes them to call him the N word.
 

Kyrie Irving unable to practice with Nets in Brooklyn due to New York's COVID-19 vaccination protocols



Kyrie Irving did not practice with the Brooklyn Nets in Brooklyn on Tuesday as the point guard is unable to practice or play in New York under the city's COVID-19 vaccination protocols.

After practicing with the team last week at training camp in San Diego, Irving did not attend the team's first practice back in Brooklyn. Players in the New York market must have at least one vaccination shot to practice or play in New York.


"No further update," Nets coach Steve Nash told reporters after practice about Irving's status for home practices and games. "We support him. We are here for him. Things change. When there's a resolution, we're here for him."

The NBA and the National Basketball Players Association agreed to a reduction in pay of 1/91.6 of a player's salary for each game an unvaccinated player misses because of local COVID-19 vaccine mandates, ESPN's Tim Bontemps and Bobby Marks reported. The Nets play their next preseason game Friday against Milwaukee in Brooklyn.
"I'm not really worried about anything," Nash said when asked about not having his starting point guard for practice in Brooklyn. "We're just trying to work every day. We came in today and had a great practice and we'll do the same tomorrow, and that's kind of where I leave it."
Nash was asked whether there has been any consideration of moving the team's practices outside of New York City to have Irving be able to participate.

"No, this is our home, this is where we're going to practice and we have almost a whole group," Nash said. "So that's a positive, and we're just working at getting better every day and focusing on the things we can control."

Irving -- who would lose roughly $380,000 per game if he is unable to participate in home games -- was not able to attend the team's media day in Brooklyn on Sept. 27. But he did talk to reporters remotely and asked for privacy regarding his decision.

"I know that I'll be there every day no matter what and just be present for my teammates as one of the leaders on the team and be there for my growing tribe off the court," Irving said during that media day remote session. "I know the focus has to be at an all-time high, no distractions. This is the last thing I wanted to create, was more distractions and more hoopla and more drama around this. I'm doing my best to maintain this with good intentions and a good heart."
 
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