Navy Seals - The Navy's Elite

[White Lurker]

my brother's friend went thru Seal Training
most of the people in his unit at one time or another dies for about 30 seconds and the resesitate them as part of the training
he was a little off after he got back
he hurt his knee beyond repair and now he gets paid 3-4 a month and just chills now

 

[Bahamapimp]

Navy seals, force recon, army delta etc etc

seems some rice farmers and fertilizer manufacturers have been making monkeys of these "elite units" for over 50 years. It's a lesson the United States can't seem to learn - it doesn't matter how much fire power, elite units and gadgets you bring to the battle field they are useless when you face a determined enemy who has a assault rifle in one hand and the love of his family and country in the other. all your shock and awe is meaningless when you fuck with peoples families your ass is history.

that's so true.. i always tell people that.. if a person fucks with one's family, country or money.. especially if dat individual's hungry, angry and determined enough.. if that person is straped up, no seal or whatever can fuck with that individual..

das real..

 

[garyeasleydaking]

You know what, as an ex-Marine I'm sick and tired of hearing about the gotdamn Navy S.E.A.L.S. They don't do shit that Marine Corps Force Recon don't do. Simply put, Force Recon is better than the S.E.A.L.S., it's just that the S.E.A.L.S get more publicity.

I'll see if I can find somne info to end the myth about S.E.A.L.S. being the most elite and highly trained U.S. military unit.

c/s im in okinawa, and i've seen these mother fuckers swim like 2 mile to an island near by, for fun. These fucking white boys are insane. Fuck that, they don't pay me that much, i'd rather go chase some japanese hoes...

 

[Darrkman]

Delta Force:

http://www.army.com/enlist/delta-force.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Force

 

[dacrazydeafdawg]

GI JANE while a movie show some of the Seal's rigorous training - shyt not that many mofo can last underwater without oxygen for more than 15 minutes... not sure if I heard that shyt right but I was like damn HOORAH!

If we have sent the US SEAL in Iraq in the first place we wouldnt be at war - cuz they would smoke the sonofbytch in bed and be out in 15 minutes flat. Same than with that crazy ass Iraq's dictator!

On the real - I got mad respect for anybody that is a US SEAL and that TRY to become one but couldnt make it to the end - cuz that shyt will transform you into a killing elite machine that they should be the prototype for Terminator!

 

[dacrazydeafdawg]

One more thing after reading some of yall posting..

The problem is if the commander in chief doesnt have a military background in the art of war and listen to his yes men and relies on faulty intellegenice then he or she gonna invoke war on a widescale.

Elite forces likes our: SEALS/Green Berets/Rangers/Delta Force/ I know the Marines goes anywhere first but get sleeps on. I know Air Force doesnt have an Elite force unless u want to count the pilots that flys the B-2 and Stealth bombers and manned NORAD in Colorado.

The thing is elites forces goes in and do work and be out in a short amount of timeframe.

When you engaged in a war like we are in now you become a liable especially when you become marked as a fixed target. The mofo dont need to be in Iraq - we went in and got rid of Sadam and we should have been gone already. Mofo get mad at us because it not like we own the fucking country and we didnt make Iraq the 51st state or claim it as a terrority.

One of the most important about warfare - you have an objective to achieve and then that is that.

Shyt if they need police help we should have deploy the MPs unit of the various branch.

The elite forces can get rid of that crazy ass in Iran in 30 minutes flat. Fly in and smoke his ass and set up the Al-Qadea and we wouldnt even have to take credit.

I hope whomever is the Secertary of Defense have the common sense to relay this information to the next Commander in Chief.

God bless the US Military and its Elite Soliders!

modern warfare is not effective when you are an fixed target - you have to be on the go until the objective is done. If you become stationed and shyt and then you no better off than a pair of sitting ducks in a pond waiting to be blown away!

 

[Wobble Wobble]

^^^^^^^

Secondly you ever notice how about 230 years of an independent United states there has never been another Military in conflict or war on our soil....

Yo, Bike, slow down. The British invaded in 1812 and burned down the White House, the Mexicans invaded soverign US territory several times, the last time was Pancho Villa in 1916, there was Pearl Harbour. Just a history fact check,


Anyway. The SEALS have the best PR in the world, even better than the Gyreens (if that was possible). But the skuttlebut coming back from Southwest Asia is that other units are saying "fuck Jointness, I ain't working with SEALS until they get off that holier than thou shit". SEAL training has to be extra tough because how easy is it to get into the Navy? By the time a guy goes for Special Forces or Ranger or Marine Recon, he's had Basic, AIT, and Airborne (army) and Basic, the Crucible, additional Marine Infantry training (Marines).

I grant the SEALs for their swim training, but they don't even have that on lock Air Force Pararescue and Coast Guard Paraswimmers are their equals. SEAL weapons handling was and is taught to them by lowly Army types. They have to go to the same Army qualification/specialty schools - weapons, medic, communications.

I was a Ranger. Doctrinally speaking, I don't even see a reason for the Ranger Batallions, what they do can be done by any Airborne unit. Ranger qualified people should be used for what they were in Vietnam - long range reconnaisance. Special Forces go through as much training as SEALS - including swimming - and their specialty is small unit actions with native units.

A small section of the Special Forces is reportedly named Delta or Combat Action Group (CAG) and they are selected only after they complete a British SAS style selection. Even if a guy has done Ranger or Special Forces or Marine Recon or... SEAL, he has to complete Delta selection.

What I'm hearing coming out of Iraq and Afghanistan is that the SEALS are trigger happy, and shooting up a bunch of people isn't always the smart thing to do. Who do you want representing you to some illiterate, no teeth AFghan farmer who fought the British and the Soviets? Some gung ho, "I'm a SEAL, I'm white, you're a Sand N**** and you are going to do what I say" or some guy who is humble, quiet, who listens, who treats your bad feet or teeth and doesn't tear up your village?

My whole point is that the SEALS have good PR: If you shout "We're the best. We're the best" all the time, people who don't know will believe you.


Lastly, in Somalia, it wasn't just Delta, it was Rangers, Delta and SEALS and they didn't have tanks and APCs and artillery as a result of a political decision (Clinton got headfaked by the Republicans). Either way, about 100 men held off half of a city of more than 2 million people for 15 hours through multiple attacks. The Somalis estimate more than a thousand of their people were killed that day.

By the way (and you heard it from me first), watch out for when George Bush 43 is truly a lame duck, that's when he's most likely to attack Iran. If everyone remembers, during 1992, there was a constant call throughout the year for the West to do something about the starvation in Somalia. The communist government had collapsed in 1990 and starvation had set in. Bush 41 did nothing - after all, it was an election year - and only sent in the Marines and SEALs in December, a month after he lost to Clinton. Clinton inherited the Somalia problem and had Republicans shouting from the sidelines, "get Aidid or you're weak!"

 

[moblack]

Fuck all that shit.

 

[strenkt]

don't know much about any of this except what I see on tv as I live in Trinidad.

A female friend of mine got involved with a SEAL whoo is posted here to handle security with the US Embassy.
Anyhow long story short, he came home one evening and found a burgular in his house, how unlucky can this burgular be.
I was told that in secs he broke the thief's both arms and one foot. While he was trying to drag his way out of the house he fell and cracked his skull.

She said she never saw any shit like that.

 

[kylla]

The US Marines is the Men's Departent of the Navy

SF

Kylla

 

[BIG Bambu]

I don't know which one is the best.

what i do know is, I wouldn't want to be caught fucking their girl when they get back from deoloyment by any of them

 

[DaleMabry]

Navy seals, force recon, army delta etc etc

seems some rice farmers and fertilizer manufacturers have been making monkeys of these "elite units" for over 50 years. It's a lesson the United States can't seem to learn - it doesn't matter how much fire power, elite units and gadgets you bring to the battle field they are useless when you face a determined enemy who has a assault rifle in one hand and the love of his family and country in the other. all your shock and awe is meaningless when you fuck with peoples families your ass is history.

Real shit.

He's really telling you that if you fuck over his daughter you will be one of his stories.

MORE real shit!

If we have sent the US SEAL in Iraq in the first place we wouldnt be at war - cuz they would smoke the sonofbytch in bed and be out in 15 minutes flat. Same than with that crazy ass Iraq's dictator!

True but then that would have undermined the real reason we are in Iraq. Bush 41 was in and out like that, because he was protecting an ally's oil and sovereignity, and sending a message.

Bush 43 has our boys there for a whole different set of reasons, much baser, more shortsighted and selfish reasons.

 

[Nat_Turner]

Air Force Pararescue are the best there is. Most, if not all of ou cats have never even heard of them. They are on a different mission than these other groups. Check them out. No one can hold a candle to them.

And don't forget the Combat Air Controllers.

USAF, FUCK YEAH!

 

[ThaBurgerPimp]

FUCK YOU JARHEAD MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!










Semper Phi, OOOO RAH that!!!

the SEALS had their own movie too LOL

 

[Dert Bagg]

Navy Seals ain't no joke. The training alone breaks bones..don't want to even think about the missions these cats have to take on.

That's the point. The training is worst-case scenario shit. These niggas do missions like reruns.

 

[LennyNero1972]

The different Special Ops groups in the different Military Branches all are trained to take on specific tasks and missions. For example.........

-Green Berets: They are trained to be dropped anywhere in the world and fend for themselves. They train foreign rebel groups in guerrilla warfare type training and can train small armys

-US Rangers: They are trained to seize and secure areas like airports, military installations, govt HQ's etc.

-Air Force Special Ops: Provide close air support in helicopter operations in all weather environments.

-Navy SEALS: Small group units trained to go in and get out quick in hostile situations and close quarter operations. They are not equipped to stay in a area for a extended period of time like Green Berets

-Marine Force Recon: Larger in group size than Navy Seals and can perform and employ the same tactics with a larger group with bigger logistical and air support.

No group is better than the other, they are trained and equipped for specific type of missions.

Peace.

Arguing about which special operations force is better is like arguing about which color is the best. Each of them is the best at what it does. Also, being in special forces doesn't mean you can automatically whoop mike tyson and bruce lee and Fedor in unarmed hand to hand combat. If you are unarmed on the battlefield, the shit has already hit the fan. They aren't martial artists, they are soldiers.

Marine Force Recon are some bad bastards. They undergo a lot of the same training as the Seals. I dare you to find a better team anywhere in the world when it comes to operating deep behind enemy lines carrying out dangerous recon missions. Snipers, explosives, reconnaissance, HALO, etc... Nobody really wants to tangle with a Force Recon Team on the ground. I've read articles from Seal Commanders singing the praises of Force Recon Marines.

Nobody is better when it comes to underwater operations than a SEAL team. No other special ops team does as much water training, underwater explosive training, as the Seals. They get a lot of hype b/c of their grueling BUDS training, and it is grueling. They are also the group that everyone seems to know the most about.

The Army rangers are the elite light infantry force in the world. They are who is called to come in and be the ground force to support a smaller special operations team. The rangers are hard core, there is always a team that is on standby... prepared to get anywhere in the world within 8 hours and be kicking ass immediately. They don't get all of the special training that the smaller 'elite' units get, they focus on just being the toughest infantry in the world. Not many Marines will admit it, but the Rangers are probably a step up from your standard Marine infantry unit... and we all know how tough the marines are. The marines look at themselves as elite from top to bottom... and they are.

Army Special Forces aka green berets... They operate in 12 man teams. Each member is fluent in another language. Each member is a specialist in a specific field. Medicine, Engineering, Weapons, Communications etc. You can send in 12 green berets to the jungle in colombia, and then 8 months later they will have gone out and trained their own army. If the CIA / government decides it wants to overthrow venezuela's regime... they don't have to send in the army and marines... they send in 12 guys into the colombian jungle and don't tell anyone in the media shit. 12 months later there is an uprising of guerilla forces taking over a government.

The Delta force is made up of ex Special Forces, Rangers, Seals, etc. Their specialty is Counter Terrorism. They are trained in espionage, sabotage, theft, breaking and entering, explosives, and especially close quarters combat and hostage extraction. They know every inch of every airplane ever made. They will spend months planning a mission, and that mission will last less than 30 seconds of live action time. They will bust into a room and shoot every bad guy 2X in the head before the hostages even know what is happening.

There are a lot of common skill sets and all of their jobs and training overlap to a large degree.

These are the most intelligent and informed responses in this thread. The debate should have ended here, yet knuckleheads want to keep this shit going.

 

[DASK]

damn!

 

[peterpiper1978]

^^^^^^^



It would seem like your right but try to look at it this way...

Yeas Vietnam, Afghanistan, Mogadishu, Iraq and several others where conflicts and wars that US special forces did and still do get killed and fail at missions while trying to complete the US agenda...

Hell every superpower has suffered losses in these kind of wars, Soviet Union, France, China all of them have had their best killed against third world or small countries....

But usually as a matter of fact almost 99.9% percent of the time you'll never hear of a successful mission because they would never report it....besides this thread and the general consensus acknowledges they are good not Perfect!

Secondly you ever notice how about 230 years of an independent United states there has never been another Military in conflict or war on our soil....that's because of our Nuclear capability and our:



It's very easy to take that for granted but it's what separates you from enjoying the lil' freedoms we have and a Chinese Military Officer from hitting you in the head with the but of his SKS!!!.....and taking your house and car putting you in a concentration camp.

that happened to the japanese here, remember. and to tha blacks

 

[Dert Bagg]

You know what, as an ex-Marine I'm sick and tired of hearing about the gotdamn Navy S.E.A.L.S. They don't do shit that Marine Corps Force Recon don't do. Simply put, Force Recon is better than the S.E.A.L.S., it's just that the S.E.A.L.S get more publicity.

I'll see if I can find somne info to end the myth about S.E.A.L.S. being the most elite and highly trained U.S. military unit.

Of course they are .
You niggas just can't stand that there is a squid unit more elite than you regular rank jarheads. They feed you that warrior-god nonsense to get you geeked about forward positions. That's it. When you survive, you get old and die the same as a nigga in the coast guard.

All them dudes is tougher than students though...

 

[Gods_Debris]

Of course they are .
You niggas just can't stand that there is a squid unit more elite than you regular rank jarheads. They feed you that warrior-god nonsense to get you geeked about forward positions. That's it. When you survive, you get old and die the same as a nigga in the coast guard.

ouch

 

[Ron Barcelo]

^^^^^^^



It would seem like your right but try to look at it this way...

Yeas Vietnam, Afghanistan, Mogadishu, Iraq and several others where conflicts and wars that US special forces did and still do get killed and fail at missions while trying to complete the US agenda...

Hell every superpower has suffered losses in these kind of wars, Soviet Union, France, China all of them have had their best killed against third world or small countries....

But usually as a matter of fact almost 99.9% percent of the time you'll never hear of a successful mission because they would never report it....besides this thread and the general consensus acknowledges they are good not Perfect!

Secondly you ever notice how about 230 years of an independent United states there has never been another Military in conflict or war on our soil....that's because of our Nuclear capability and our:



It's very easy to take that for granted but it's what separates you from enjoying the lil' freedoms we have and a Chinese Military Officer from hitting you in the head with the but of his SKS!!!.....and taking your house and car putting you in a concentration camp.

You're joking right? You can't possibly believe this.

 

[Shadow]

Wow.

I don't even feel like typing, but from what I gather only ONE OTHER SPECIAL OPERATOR (Wobble Wobble) has typed anything in this thread.

I'm not going to verify any of the posts, other than to say that:

Rangers don't go to BUD/S (SEAL indoctrination) but SEALS/Recon Marines do go to Airborne and Ranger school as well as HALO (MFF). Sort of have to in order to do the job. Oh, and a Marine Recon battalion does not have THE MISSION SAME AS A FORCE RECON or ANGLICO Marine.

Anyway, talk among yourself and I will go back to surfing the net for pussy pics.

Shad(ow Warrior)

 

[PacMan]

Navy seals, force recon, army delta etc etc

seems some rice farmers and fertilizer manufacturers have been making monkeys of these "elite units" for over 50 years. It's a lesson the United States can't seem to learn - it doesn't matter how much fire power, elite units and gadgets you bring to the battle field they are useless when you face a determined enemy who has a assault rifle in one hand and the love of his family and country in the other. all your shock and awe is meaningless when you fuck with peoples families your ass is history.

This is a bullshit ass post. The only reason young men are still dying is politics. Trust me when I say that there aint a country in the world that "shock and awe" couldn't wipe out. Ask the Japanese. Them mothafuckas was ready to die, til you kill a 3rd of em. Politicians think they can go over there and just make entire countries do they're bidding with as little force as possible. They're more concerned with being careful to not make "The US" look like the bad guys.

 

[merce77]

You know what, as an ex-Marine I'm sick and tired of hearing about the gotdamn Navy S.E.A.L.S. They don't do shit that Marine Corps Force Recon don't do. Simply put, Force Recon is better than the S.E.A.L.S., it's just that the S.E.A.L.S get more publicity.

I'll see if I can find somne info to end the myth about S.E.A.L.S. being the most elite and highly trained U.S. military unit.

Doesn't really matter does it, none of those guys ever gets recognized publicly as heros even though they all are, your ALL expendable. Anyway, from what I've heard from alot of heads, the Green Berets are the best that the military has to offer anyway.

 

[kylla]

QUANTICO, Va. -- Here at "the crossroads of the Marine Corps," some officers are uneasily pondering a paradox: No service was better prepared than the Marines for the challenges of post-invasion Iraq, yet no service has found its mission there more unsettling to its sense of itself.

When asked in 1997 to describe the kind of conflict for which Marines were training, Gen. Charles Krulak, then the Corps' commandant, replied with one word: "Chechnya." He meant ethnic and sectarian conflict in an urban context. He spoke of "the three-block war" in which a Marine wraps a child in a blanket, then is a buffer between warring factions, then engages in combat, all within three city blocks.

For Marines, however, fighting such a war for more than four years jeopardizes the skills essential to their core mission -- combat as an expeditionary force. Marines have not conducted a major amphibious landing since Inchon in Korea, but the Corps, which specializes in operational maneuver from the sea, remains, in theory, a force that penetrates, performs, then departs. Marines say: The nation needs the Army, Navy and Air Force, but it wants the Marine Corps as an expeditionary power, more than just a miniaturized Army.

Marines have an institutional memory of "small wars," from the Philippines to Central America, and this competence serves them well in Iraq, which is, an officer here says, "a thousand microcosms." But the exigencies of the protracted Iraq commitment have forced the Marines to adopt vehicles that are heavier and bigger than can easily travel with an expeditionary force on ships. And there is tension between the "nation-building" dimension of the Marines' Iraq mission and the Corps' distinctive warrior esprit, which is integral to why the nation wants the Corps.

Officers studying here at the Marine Corps University after tours in Iraq dutifully say they understand that they serve their combat mission -- destroying the enemy -- when they increase the host nation's capacity for governance. Besides, says one officer, when his units are helping with garbage collection, they know that "garbage collection is a matter of life and death because there are IEDs [improvised explosive devices] hidden under that garbage."

Still, no one becomes a Marine to collect garbage or otherwise nurture civil societies. And as one officer here notes with some asperity, there is "no Goldwater-Nichols Act for the rest of the government." That act required "jointness" -- collaborative operations -- by the services. Civilian agencies that do not play well together have fumbled the ball in Iraq, and the military has been forced to pick it up. This draws the military deeper into the sensitive responsibility for tutoring civilians who assign the forces nonmilitary tasks.

The political dimension of leadership training remains, however, secondary to instruction in military valor. The other services tend to teach leadership prescriptively, with rules. The Marines teach descriptively, with storytelling about what happened on the sea wall at Tarawa (1943), at Korea's Chosin Reservoir (1950), in Vietnam's Hue city (1968). But there is another story pertinent to providing military advice that can ensure civilian comprehension of military functions.

Early in the Kennedy administration, when there was talk about a U.S. invasion of Cuba, Gen. David M. Shoup, Marine commandant, gave President John Kennedy and his advisers a tutorial. David Halberstam wrote in "The Best and the Brightest":

"First he took an overlay of Cuba and placed it over the map of the United States. To everybody's surprise, Cuba was not a small island along the lines of, say, Long Island at best. It was about 800 miles long and seemed to stretch from New York to Chicago. Then he took another overlay, with a red dot, and placed it over the map of Cuba. 'What's that?' someone asked him. 'That, gentlemen, represents the size of the island of Tarawa,' said Shoup, who had won a Medal of Honor there, 'and it took us three days and 18,000 Marines to take it.' "

Because of the dispersed battlefield in Iraq, company commanders must make instantaneous decisions that battalion commanders used to make, and corporals are making decisions that officers used to make reflecting -- and affecting -- the Marine Corps' ethics and core values.

Still, "it's a beautiful thing being in Iraq," says one officer, "because you aren't worrying about Corporal Jones stateside getting a DUI." That is the durable voice of the Marine Corps, which is "first to fight," and is happier when doing so than when dealing with garrison duties stateside or chores properly belonging to civilian agencies abroad.

georgewill@washpost.com

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/21/AR2007092101949.html

 

[kylla]

Doesn't really matter does it, none of those guys ever gets recognized publicly as heros even though they all are, your ALL expendable. Anyway, from what I've heard from alot of heads, the Green Berets are the best that the military has to offer anyway.

Navy Seals, Green Berets, Paratroopers are all good. The difference is that the Marines are the best because EVERY Marine is a killer.

From the lowly chef to the CMDT USMC. Man for Man there is no better fighting force in the history of the world.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GG3W_N14yc

 

[kylla]

You know what, as an ex-Marine I'm sick and tired of hearing about the gotdamn Navy S.E.A.L.S. They don't do shit that Marine Corps Force Recon don't do. Simply put, Force Recon is better than the S.E.A.L.S., it's just that the S.E.A.L.S get more publicity.

I'll see if I can find somne info to end the myth about S.E.A.L.S. being the most elite and highly trained U.S. military unit.

Marine, just get more of ours:

Happy 232d B-day!
On Nov. 10 2007, the Marine Corps turns 232 years old. Ever since it was formed in a Philadelphia bar in 1775, the Corps has given Marines countless reasons to take pride in the heritage of their organization.

There is no shortage of instances in which Marine units and individuals have distinguished themselves in battle, but the bragging rights earned over the past 232 years weren't all born on the battlefield.

The Corps' culture sets it apart from other branches of the military in ways that those who have never earned the eagle, globe and anchor find difficult to fully understand. But what is obvious to even the most casual observer is that Marines distinguish themselves through their unique appearance, spirit and accomplishments.

To know the Corps is to love the Corps, which is why Marine Corps Times compiled the following list of 232 reasons to stand proudly at this year's birthday ball.

1. Cpl. Jason Dunham. First Marine to receive the Medal of Honor since Vietnam. If jumping on a grenade to save a buddy isn't worth the top of the list, nothing is.
2. Civilians have to find time to go to the gym. Marines get paid to go.
3. The National Museum of the Marine Corps. It's like a Smithsonian of leatherneck.
4. There's no such thing as an "ex" Marine.
5. Re-enlistment rates are higher IN the war zone.
6. Stink-proof socks. Well, almost. Systems Command is working on them.
7. Jalapeño cheese.
8. "Every Marine Into the Fight."
9. Lump-sum re-enlistment bonuses up to $80,000. Many of you would consider doing it for free.
10. New uniforms #1. Pixel-pattern cammies? Yeah, the Corps came up with that.
11. "Doc."
12. Flexed arm hang is harder than it looks. We tried it.
13. Barracks parties on non-payday weekends.
14. Marine Gunners.
15. The Wounded Warrior Regiment.
16. MarAdmin 266/07: Letting 18-year-old Marines drink on base at this year's birthday ball.
17. No receipt necessary for travel claim expenses less than $75.
18. The lance corporal underground.
19. Fallujah II.
21. Archibald Henderson's couch, re-upholstered, is still in the commandant's living room.
22. "No better friend, no worse enemy."
23. Typhoons approaching Okinawa often spark islandwide beer runs.
24. Waivers.
25. Gen. James Jones, who followed his tour as commandant with appointment as "supreme intergalactic overlord" (OK, it was Supreme Allied Commander, Europe, but close).
26. 10 rounds from the 500-yard line.
27. Per diem.
28. To civilians, every Marine is recon.
29. Recruiting in Texas is like hunting at the zoo.
30. The "boat cloak." Because every super hero needs a cape.
31. You can re-enlist in the IRR.
32. The wallet in your sock.
33. Motivating television commercials.
34. The "horse shoe" haircut, gone but not forgotten.
35. The global address list. Find your buddies and send them links to Marine Corps Times.
36. Running cadences that mention napalm. And Eskimos.
37. Stories that begin with, "So there I was ..."
38. Modified parade rest.
39. The transformation. Who you are when you join is not nearly as important as who you become.
40. Lt. Gen. Jim Mattis getting a fourth star.
41. If you've been on liberty in Twentynine Palms, you've been on liberty in Yuma and Barstow, too.
42. Grooming standards. Not only can you not act like a thug, you cannot look like a thug.
43. It's not the Army.
44. Women in Manhattan have all seen the Fleet Week episode of "Sex and the City."
45. Combat shotguns.
46. Combat Action Ribbons. IEDs count now, and should have counted all along. Duh.
47. The occasional free beer. Wear your blues into a bar and see what happens.
48. After decades of debate, there remains no resolution on whether sand fleas trump "The Reaper."
49. The Corps' doesn't call its officers, commissioned or not, "petty."
50. Cpl. Gareth Hawkins, lying on a stretcher after an IED shattered his leg, demanded re-enlistment before medical evacuation. And got it.
51. Whereas Army, Navy and Air Force jokes are funny, Marine jokes are potentially dangerous.
52. The occasional friendly debate. Refer to a Marine staff noncommissioned officer simply as "sergeant," and see what happens.
53. That troublesome "10 percent," making good Marines look great since 1775.
54. Everyone at a high school reunion is obliged to justify his last 10 years, except the guy wearing alphas.
55. As if ranks that include the words "master" and "gunnery" aren't intimidating enough on their own, the Corps uses them both. At once.
56. Soldiers have Hooah Bars. Marines have Ka-Bars. The second will generally get you the first.
57. The dress code. You can wear your cammies to meet the commandant or repair a tank.
58. From "Aliens" to "Doom," the future vision of warfare almost always includes Space Marines.
59. The Corps was formed in a bar.
60. Marines predicted the WWII campaigns in the Pacific years earlier and prepared for the inevitable. So when a Marine says, "Hey, I've been thinking ..." perhaps you should take notes.
61. Give a Marine some free time, and he'll rip down your dictator's statue.
62. If it ain't raining, we ain't training.

64. Duty station garden spots: Jacksonville, N.C.; Yuma, Ariz.; Bridgeport, Calif.; Twentynine Palms, Calif. (Yes, we're kidding.)
65. Making morning PT on time.
66. Recruiters who promise everything EXCEPT a rose garden.
67. Mustangs #1. It's easier to take crap from a CO who went to boot camp.
69. Gen. Peter Pace, the first Marine chairman of the Joint Chiefs. He left his four-star insignia with his fallen comrades at the Vietnam Wall when he retired. Nice move.
70. The people zapper. Using microwave energy to disperse a crowd sounds like fun. Semper fry, gunny.
71. Nothing says "Good morning" like a mouthful of Copenhagen and freeze-dried coffee.
72. Nothing says "I love you" like a welcome home sheet hanging on a chain-link fence.
73. Bill Barnes. In June, the former Marine beat the crap out of a 27-year-old pickpocket who tried to make off with his dough. Oh yeah, he's 72.
74. Leftwich Trophy. Heisman winners only think they know about leaving it all on the field.
75. EOD. If you don't know why this is on the list, defuse the next IED yourself.
76. Tax-free combat pay. Doing what you signed up for and not having to give Uncle Sam a dime back.
77. Montford Point Marines. The first African-American Marines know a little something about honor, courage and commitment.
78. Front toward enemy. It's not just a visual reference on a Claymore mine, it's a Marine Corps way of life.
79. Mustangs #2. You know at least three Marines who drive them. It's like a Ford dealership exploded on base.
80. Fred Smith, founder of FedEx. Only a former Marine could truly appreciate the value of getting your mail on time.
81. CMC: The tallest member of the Joints Chiefs. OK, so we haven't actually measured, but he looks the tallest anyway.
82. No more spit shining boots.
83. Chuck Norris was in the Air Force. Steve McQueen was a Marine.
84. The Crucible.
85. 1/9, 2/9 and 3/9. Welcome back, fellas.
86. The FROG uniform. You are now sweat-wickin' AND flame-lickin'.
88. The M4. More rifles in the fight is generally a win-win.
89. MRAPs. Trucks straight out of Mad Max. We still love a good Humvee, but we loved jeeps, too. Things change.
90. Arty guys who do civil affairs. They blow it up, then they fix it.
Circle of life.
91. Service Charlies. They look so good, the Navy's copying 'em.
92. Fake Marines. No one eats 'em up faster than real Marines.
93. John Lovell. A 71-year-old former Marine is sitting in a Subway restaurant when two armed men try to rob the place. Lovell grabs his .45, kills one and wounds the other. No word on how Lovell's sandwich fared.
94. 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines. Six Navy Crosses so far. Six.
95. Staff Sgt. Lawrence Dean II, aka the "BadAss Marine." He recites a poem.
He gets uploaded to YouTube. Thousands get motivated.
96. Gen. James Conway takes over as the new commandant. Among his demands: a new PT uniform, new tattoo regs, a plan to add dress blues to the seabag, a change-up in medals and 22,000 more Marines. Someone's been thinking about taking over for a while, huh?
97. Body-fat standards. Everyone hates them, until they see a fat Marine.
98. "Jarhead." Only a former Marine could write a war story about not fighting anyone and make it last for 200 pages, then get Jamie Foxx to star in the movie.
99. The Stumps. The Rock. The Sandbox. Oh, the places you'll serve.
101. Tattoos #2. Getting a fallen friend's name tattooed on your other forearm, and knowing the same.
102. The new PT running suit. Sure, the Army had them first, but the Army gets most things first.
103. Marine expeditionary units: The cheapest cruise you'll ever take.
104. Camp Lejeune: The closest interstate and the nearest good shopping mall are both at least an hour away.
105. Camp Pendleton: There are roads and malls, but try affording a house near the main gate.
106. Tattoos #3. Meat tags. Getting your blood type and other info inked on your ribcage isn't necessarily a bad idea.
107. The Marine Corps is getting bigger. The Navy is getting smaller.
109. 30 days' paid vacation, plus federal holidays off, is obscene by civilian standards.
110. Maj. Gen. Marion E. Carl, the Corps' first fighter ace. First Marine to fly a helicopter. Two Navy Crosses, five Distinguished Flying Crosses, 14 air medals. In 1998, the 82-year-old was killed during a home break-in when he jumped in front of a shotgun blast aimed at his longtime wife, Edna.
111. Tattoos #4. Reaction to the new policy: Conway says sleeves are going away, Marines run for the chair. Tattoo parlors never saw so much business.
113. Guaranteed pay raises.
114. Marine Security Guard #1. Duty in the Bahamas.
115. Having a WWII Marine say he's proud of you
116. Drew Carey used to be in the Marine Corps Reserve. Now, he's the host of "The Price is Right."
117. Combatant diver pins. No more of that Navy crap.
118. A Red Stripe is a beer, mon. A Blood Stripe is a symbol of pride.
119. NMCI, if only they would remove the "MC."
120. You watched "300," and it reminded you of your unit.
121. The "Det One" .45 pistol. Designed by Marines, for Marines.
122. Combat marksmanship. You are creeping death. And you get graded on it.
123. Never lost six nukes on a plane.
124. CamelBaks. Water tastes like water again.
125. Give a Marine enough free time, and he'll marry your Bahraini princess.
126. Go to YouTube. Type in "bored Marines." Enjoy.
127. When the president gets on a helicopter, it's not called "Army One."
128. The opposite of the Peace Corps.
129. Camouflage. You can camouflage anything and make it cool.
130. No Fear #1. Marines aren't scared of anything. Except apricots. And Charms.
131. Combat optics on M16s. Leave the iron sights, just in case.
132. "Combat loss" amnesty for missing gear. It's like pleading the fifth.
133. Riding a chartered Continental Airlines flight home from the war zone with assault weapons stuffed in all the overhead compartments.
134. In combat, the division band becomes a heavy-machine-gun platoon.
135. What do headaches, broken bones, infectious diseases, missing limbs and hurt feelings all have in common? Motrin. Thanks, Doc.
137. Global instability equals job security.
138. When NMCI goes down, and it will, it's like having the day off.
139. The honor, privilege and responsibility of leading, mentoring and caring for junior Marines.
140. Gunnery sergeants. Don't know the answer? Ask the gunny. Need something? Ask the gunny. In trouble? Avoid the gunny.
141. Because gunny said so.
142. The line to get "tazed" at a military gear expo. Marines will do anything for a free T-shirt.
143. Deployment reunions. Like reliving your wedding night. Sweet!
144. Gig lines. Even in khakis and a polo shirt.
145. Eight-point covers. Even the uniform stands at attention.
146. Marine Security Guards #2. They're not cute and cuddly, but when they greet you at the door, it's like getting a great big hug from the United States of America, no matter where you are.
147. The Mameluke sword. Distinctive.
148. The NCO sword. Earned, never given.
149. The World Famous Mud Run. Thousands of people pay good money to run through 10 clicks of muck every year at Camp Pendleton.
150. John Philip Sousa. A Marine, the nation's March King and composer of "The Stars and Stripes Forever." Ooh-rah.
151. MRE crackers. Hard as Milk Bones but much tastier. You can almost feel your teeth getting cleaner as you eat 'em.
152. Jane Wayne Day. She'll never ask about work again.
153. Shirt stays. Or garters. Whatever you call them, they're a triple whammy, keeping your shirt tucked, your socks up and removing all that unwanted leg hair.
154. The slogans: "The Few, The Proud, The Marines." "We're Looking For a Few Good Men," "Once a Marine, always a Marine," "Tell that to the Marines."
If they could only purchase the rights to Hallmark's "When You Care Enough to Send the Very Best."
155. Speaking of slogans, "The Few, The Proud, The Marines" beat out such notables as Nike's "Just Do It" and Burger King's "Have It Your Way" for a
2007 spot on the advertising Walk of Fame. Better luck next year, losers.
157. Real duty station garden spots you can go an entire career without being assigned to: Southern California; Kaneohe Bay, Hawaii; Okinawa, Japan.
158. Rear-party Marines. God bless them. Whatever reason they stay behind - injury, impending retirement or being volun-told - they are indispensable.
They deserve medals for what they have to deal with while a unit is deployed.
159. While field-grade officers are at the company office, company-grade officers are in the field.
160. Colonels who can take a joke.
161. Free flu shots. And smallpox shots and anthrax shots ...
162. Former Sgt. Chris Everhart. While camping with his three sons in June 2007, a bear snatched their cooler and made a play for his 6-year-old.
Everhart threw an 18-inch log at the bear's head, cracking its skull before it could attack and killing it instantly. Then, the park ranger gave him a ticket for leaving the cooler where the bear could get it.
163. Standards. The Corps doesn't lower the bar when recruiting gets tough.
164. Jim Nabors. "Gomer Pyle" becomes an honorary Marine in 2001 and makes lance corporal. It takes him six years to pin on corporal. Talk about art imitating life.
165. Vincent D'Onofrio. The other "Private Pyle" is doing pretty well on "Law and Order: Criminal Intent." He's still weird, though.
166. If you ambush Capt. Brian Chontosh's boys, he's going to take off his Navy Cross and kill you. Then, he's going to pick up your rifle and kill your buddies. Then, he's going to pick up your buddy's rifle and kill your buddy's buddies. Then, he's going to pick up a rocket-propelled grenade launcher ...
167. Speaking of the Navy Cross, a combat award second only to the Medal of Honor, Marines have earned 15 so far in Iraq, plus one in Afghanistan. Of the six awarded to sailors for those combat zones, five went to SEALs, and one went to a corpsman who exposed himself repeatedly to enemy fire to evacuate and treat wounded Marines. Along with Chontosh, the other recipients include:
168. Gunnery Sgt. Justin D. Lehew.
169. Lance Cpl. Joseph B. Perez.
170. Sgt. Scott C. Montoya.
171. Cpl. Marco A. Martinez.
172. Sgt. Willie L. Copeland.
173. Capt. Brent Morel (posthumous).
174. Sgt. Anthony L. Viggiani.
175. 1st Sgt. Bradley A. Kasal.
176. Cpl. Robert J. Mitchell.
177. Cpl. Dominic Esquibel.
178. Sgt. Jarrett A. Kraft.
179. Cpl. Jeremiah W. Workman.
180. Cpl. Todd Corbin.
181. Sgt. Aubrey L. McDade Jr.
182. Pfc. Christopher Adlesperger (posthumous).
183. Hospital Corpsman 3rd Class Louis E. Fonseca.
184. Iwo JIMA. Japan might have changed the name to Iwo To, but that doesn't mean you have to acknowledge it.
185. Col. John Ripley. Received the Navy Cross for the destruction of the Dong Ha bridge in Vietnam. The Corps takes care of its own. In 2002, with Ripley near death, doctors finally found a donated liver for his much-needed transplant. So the Marine Corps sent helicopters and Marines to Philadelphia to retrieve it, and they personally rushed it back to Washington in time to save his life.
186. Marine Corps Times isn't a version of Navy Times anymore. How many careers get their own newspaper?
188. Gatorade bottles wrapped in green, 100 mph tape so as not to offend the sailors in the room.
189. Camaraderie. Marines will hook you up with their sisters, then punch you in the mouth for doing what they knew would happen the whole time.
190. Ingenuity. MRE bombs, 101 uses for cleaning rods and iPods wired into field radio speakers.
191. Getting off the ship.
192. Getting back on the ship.
193. No beach? No problem. Marines inserted 400 miles into landlocked Afghanistan and created Camp Rhino using CH-53 Sea Stallions. Imagine what you can invade with the Osprey.
194. Cases and cases of bottled water mean never having to stand behind a water bull.
195. Race as a nonissue. It wasn't always the case, but three black sergeants major of the Marine Corps in a row show that the Corps has only one color: green.
196. Every day in the Corps is another reason to celebrate. That's why they call them working "parties."
197. Riddick Bowe had what it took to be boxing's undisputed heavyweight champ. He did not have what it took to be a Marine.
198. The U.S. Army Band is called "Pershing's Own." The U.S. Marine Corps Band is called "The President's Own."
199. "8th and I." Ten bucks says you have no idea where the Army chief of staff lives. Commandants don't hide.
200. MRE "rat boxes." How grunts trick-or-treat.
201. The poncho liner. It's a blanket, it's a tent, it's a keeper.
202. Combat fit-reps. People say they're equal to regular fit-reps. People lie.
203. The "E-tool lean." Sailors don't know how good they have it.
204. Navy Lt. Vincent Capodanno, Medal of Honor recipient. If Marines have a hot line to heaven, Father Capodanno - aka the Grunt Padre - would take the call. His body peppered by shrapnel, his right hand nearly severed, the Navy chaplain and priest crisscrossed a Vietnam battlefield Sept. 4, 1967, to render last rites to his fallen Marines and corpsmen with 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines, until 27 rounds from an enemy machine gun took his life. Last year, the Vatican declared him a "servant of God." Next step, sainthood?
206. Amphibious warfare means always being near the beach.
207. No Fear #2. Talk about the AV-8B Harrier's troubled past all you like, but brave jump jet pilots are flying missions in Iraq.
208. New Uniforms #2. Wash-and-wear combat uniforms mean no more starch, no more dry cleaning.
209. Marine air-ground task force. Nothing like controlling the air and the ground.
210. Slapping an eagle, globe and anchor on the back of your car and knowing it'll get you out of at least one speeding ticket.
211. The Navy wants to put Marines back on warships. It seems that Tomahawk cruise missiles can't do everything.
212. Liberty in Thailand.
213. Liberty in Australia.
214. Liberty, well, anywhere.
215. The Navy's mascot is a goat. The Corps' mascot is a bulldog. You don't need Michael Vick to tell you who wins that fight.
216. If you need another occupying land force, you can use the Marine Corps.
If you need another rapidly deployable, sea-based, front-door-kicking, air-ground team, you can't use the Army.
217. 1775 Rum Punch. Four parts dark rum, two parts lime juice, one part pure maple syrup, grenadine to taste.
218. "It's fun to shoot some people," said Lt. Gen. Jim Mattis. He says what he thinks.
219. The Beirut Memorial Wall. If you ever forget what you're fighting for, pay a visit.
221. "Son, we live in a world that has walls, and those walls have to be guarded by men with guns. Who's gonna do it? You? You, Lieutenant Weinburg?
I have a greater responsibility than you could possibly fathom. You weep for Santiago, and you curse the Marines. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know. That Santiago's death, while tragic, probably saved lives. And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, saves lives. You don't want the truth because deep down, in places you don't talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. You need me on that wall. We use words like honor, code, loyalty. We use these words as the backbone of a life spent defending something. You use them as a punch line.
I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom that I provide, and then questions the manner in which I provide it. I would rather you just said thank you, and went on your way. Otherwise, I suggest you pick up a weapon and stand a post. Either way, I don't give a damn what you think you are entitled to." Jack Nicholson, "A Few Good Men."
222. Maj. Meghan McClung, Marine public affairs officer, killed by a roadside bomb in Iraq while escorting media. The PAO is more than just a spokesman.
223. Sgt. Rafael Peralta. Like Dunham, he hugged a grenade to save his buddies in Iraq. No Medal of Honor ... yet.
224. Hearing an accidental discharge into the clearing barrel, then waiting for the lieutenant to walk inside.
225. Call signs like "Spider" and "Assassin," and these guys were generals.
227. Buttered noodles for breakfast.
228. "Every Marine should look like a Marine. But a Marine looks like a Marine when he's got a bayonet stuck in the enemy's chest." Gen. Robert Magnus, assistant commandant, discussing body-fat standards.
229. "Infantry" is the easiest job for recruiters to sell.
230. Being the youngest Marine at the ball.
231. Being the oldest Marine at the ball.
232. Marine Corps Times appreciates all you do. Happy birthday, Marines!

 

[UniqueStyles82]

Damn Kylla...Semper Fi to you too brova...Im out here in Oki right now bout to head out with the 31st MEU...my platoon commander already read us the message General Conway wrote about going back to Marine Corps's real roots and not all this Iraq nonsense....People may not even know that there are different levels to Marine Corps Reconnaisance...shit my workspace is shared with amphibious recon and deep recon, while still under force recon, do seperate shit...

Thanks to those who are spitting the real truth about the capabilities of each special ops unit from all branches and what their main mission is...

[Q]This is a bullshit ass post. The only reason young men are still dying is politics. Trust me when I say that there aint a country in the world that "shock and awe" couldn't wipe out. Ask the Japanese. Them mothafuckas was ready to die, til you kill a 3rd of em. Politicians think they can go over there and just make entire countries do they're bidding with as little force as possible. They're more concerned with being careful to not make "The US" look like the bad guys. [/Q]

Cosigning this...it amazes me how some people want to shit on the US military for the incompetence of those seat warming bastards who stay on capital hill...Iraq to me aint nothing but a mere babysitting job that US forces still have to deal with...War is not meant to be protracted or perpetual but congress, the president, and everybody who banks off the situation find irrational reasons to fucking stay and keep the parade going...you really think a rice farmer stands a damn chance against a huey or cobra helicopter...believe you me there have been failed missions in the past but the military learns it lessons and wisens up fast...the US still has pound for pound the fiercest and deadliest fighting forces in the world but when you put that in the hands of elected retards, dumbasses, subborn mofos, what do you honestly expect...

 

[LucaBrasi]

One more thing after reading some of yall posting..

The problem is if the commander in chief doesnt have a military background in the art of war and listen to his yes men and relies on faulty intellegenice then he or she gonna invoke war on a widescale.

Elite forces likes our: SEALS/Green Berets/Rangers/Delta Force/ I know the Marines goes anywhere first but get sleeps on. I know Air Force doesnt have an Elite force unless u want to count the pilots that flys the B-2 and Stealth bombers and manned NORAD in Colorado.

The thing is elites forces goes in and do work and be out in a short amount of timeframe.

When you engaged in a war like we are in now you become a liable especially when you become marked as a fixed target. The mofo dont need to be in Iraq - we went in and got rid of Sadam and we should have been gone already. Mofo get mad at us because it not like we own the fucking country and we didnt make Iraq the 51st state or claim it as a terrority.

One of the most important about warfare - you have an objective to achieve and then that is that.

Shyt if they need police help we should have deploy the MPs unit of the various branch.

The elite forces can get rid of that crazy ass in Iran in 30 minutes flat. Fly in and smoke his ass and set up the Al-Qadea and we wouldnt even have to take credit.

I hope whomever is the Secertary of Defense have the common sense to relay this information to the next Commander in Chief.

God bless the US Military and its Elite Soliders!

modern warfare is not effective when you are an fixed target - you have to be on the go until the objective is done. If you become stationed and shyt and then you no better off than a pair of sitting ducks in a pond waiting to be blown away!

AIR force does have special ops but they get no publicity... they are the combat search and rescue (sar) parajumpers (pj)

 

[Rossini]

Fuck all that shit.

Hell yea bra, mufuckas doin all this trainin... for what? I cant even ride down the interstate without gettin racial profiled and stopped and searched, fuck this country an whoever fightin for it.

 

[DV8ed]

Hell yea bra, mufuckas doin all this trainin... for what? I cant even ride down the interstate without gettin racial profiled and stopped and searched, fuck this country an whoever fightin for it.

And fuck you too! The last time I checked, the borders were open and planes/boats/cars were crossing them everyday. I respect anyone that chose to serve with honor (as I did, my dad did, my grandfather did, and my great-grandfather did). As I heard an old black soldier that served in WWII say in an interview, I "served because I hope(d) to make my country better." If you can't respect that then maybe this isn't the country for you. You could always go to Iraq or Afghanistan and see how they accept you.

 

[Rossini]

And fuck you too! The last time I checked, the borders were open and planes/boats/cars were crossing them everyday. I respect anyone that chose to serve with honor (as I did, my dad did, my grandfather did, and my great-grandfather did). As I heard an old black soldier that served in WWII say in an interview, I "served because I hope(d) to make my country better." If you can't respect that then maybe this isn't the country for you. You could always go to Iraq or Afghanistan and see how they accept you.

You're right, this aint the country for me, If i wasnt a felon and had the money to leave, I WOULD!! If you're white then thats good you are fighting for your people, but if ur black, the same people you are fighting for hate your fucking guts!!

 

[da_monumental_1]

^^^^^^^



It would seem like your right but try to look at it this way...

Yeas Vietnam, Afghanistan, Mogadishu, Iraq and several others where conflicts and wars that US special forces did and still do get killed and fail at missions while trying to complete the US agenda...

Hell every superpower has suffered losses in these kind of wars, Soviet Union, France, China all of them have had their best killed against third world or small countries....

But usually as a matter of fact almost 99.9% percent of the time you'll never hear of a successful mission because they would never report it....besides this thread and the general consensus acknowledges they are good not Perfect!

Secondly you ever notice how about 230 years of an independent United states there has never been another Military in conflict or war on our soil....that's because of our Nuclear capability and our:



It's very easy to take that for granted but it's what separates you from enjoying the lil' freedoms we have and a Chinese Military Officer from hitting you in the head with the but of his SKS!!!.....and taking your house and car putting you in a concentration camp.

Uh, excuse me. That has more to do with geography than military capability. The Atlantic and Pacific Oceans have a lot to do with that.

 

[samh32]

At the end of the day, one of these (8 cents wholesale price) place in the right location can neutralize $250.000 dollars of training in a millisecond.

 

[Charon]

You know what, as an ex-Marine I'm sick and tired of hearing about the gotdamn Navy S.E.A.L.S. They don't do shit that Marine Corps Force Recon don't do. Simply put, Force Recon is better than the S.E.A.L.S., it's just that the S.E.A.L.S get more publicity.

I'll see if I can find somne info to end the myth about S.E.A.L.S. being the most elite and highly trained U.S. military unit.

Cosign.Marine Recons are no joke. Same goes for the Air Force Special Forces. In fact, they usually say that hearing about them in the news means they are not doing their job. Scary motherfuckers.