Guess you've never been to a ballgame, and listened to the National Anthem. Come to Baltimore, Bro.
I imagine Pearl Harbor doesn't qualify due to a technicality.
Navy Seals - The Navy's Elite
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Guess you've never been to a ballgame, and listened to the National Anthem. Come to Baltimore, Bro.
I imagine Pearl Harbor doesn't qualify due to a technicality.
Motherfucker the Navy Seals didn't exist either and at first they was called frogmen and under water demolition, as far as going back to 1943!!!WTF...The first SEAL commision wasn't until 1962!
ARE YOU RETARDED, NO ONE INCLUDING ME NEEDS A HISTORY LESSON OR A GEOGRAPHIC ROUND HERE....
Now go back to your dungeons and dragons and leave the comments to big boys!
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The thing most of the people who doubt these SPEC OPS fellas forget is that they are held to a different standard than the "mud farmer with a rifle protecting his country" is. If they truly let lose there is NO OTHER force that could deal with them at all. But then they would be just as bad as the bad guys. Dicipline and restraint are what make them the best.
When was this, Seal Team 6 has been disbanded for a long time over 20 years. I still hear people talking about it, but those who know, know thats its been long gone. So where when you in Jabel Ali? Also nobody goes on liberty in Jebel, most people go into Dubai. Jebel is just where the ships pull in there is nothing there.
Are you even in the military?
I'm just saying
First you seen the ? next to the six. it was over 10 years ago dont remember the team.
Second i said jebel ali, and miss spoke it was dubai down in the gold suk i think, long day of drinking at fleet landing will fog ur memory.
So if you so in the know tell me what Seal team was with the washington carrier group on the 97 cruise and they the one who got they ass beat.
and know im not in the military i got out in 2000.
SEAL Team SIX is the U.S. Navy's main counterterrorist unit, whose operatives are drawn from the current SEAL ranks. The unit was created as part of the Joint Special Operations Command in 1980. The origin of SIX can be traced to the aftermath of the failed 1980 attempt to rescue American hostages at the Iranian Embassy (Operation Eagle Claw). Prior to this, the existing SEAL teams had already begun CT training, including all 12 platoons in SEAL Team One on the West Coast. On the East Coast, however, elements of the SEAL Team Two had taken the issue one step farther. They formed a dedicated two-platoon group known as "MOB Six" (Mobility Six) in anticipation of a maritime scenario requiring a CT response and had begun training to that end.
Six was formally created in October 1980, and an accelerated training program made the unit mission-ready just six months later. At the time, only two SEAL Teams were in existence; popular knowledge backed up by actual SEAL claims say that the name was chosen to confuse Soviet intelligence as to the number of SEAL Teams in operation. It became officially operational in 1981.
In 1987, the unit was given the official title of 'Naval Special Warfare Development Group' (NAVSPECWARDEVGRU, or simply DEVGRU). Reasons for the name change are varied, ranging from operational security, the team's reputation, all the way down to charges leveled at Six founder and now-public figure Richard Marcinko. Whatever the truth behind these, the name "SEAL Team Six" is no longer in use, although most military servicemen and many civilians still recognize them as "SEAL Team Six."
DEVGRU's mission is to provide intelligence and counter-terrorism services for the Dept of the Navy and the overall U.S. Special Operations Command, in addition to providing management for the development and testing of technologies under consideration for use by Naval Special Warfare forces such as SEALs. By these aforementioned responsibilities, it is obvious to say here that ST6 is the Maritime (Naval) equivalent of the elite Army Delta. In fact, both units train together from time to time as well as deploy together when the need arises. The unit is currently based out of Dam Neck, Virginia and administrative control is under Naval Special Warfare Command.
An executive order by President Clinton added DEVGRU to those units excepted from the contents of Title 5, Section 7103 of the US Code.
Can you say..."Al-Queda.
That's why the natives weren't prepared when Christopher Columbus showed up - thinking like that. The main mission of the combined U.S.N & U.S.M.C. is to make the ocean not an obstacle.
just jokes man, I know most people use Jebal and Dubai interchangably. As far as the spec war, I don't know. I don't run up behind there asses like a lot of people when they are onboard the ships. I have worked with them for several exercies and they seem to be decent folks. As far as fighting so many people get there ass whooped on deployment I don't keep count of what unit they are apart off.
Cold but tru fact of war....the main thing that fucked the Natives up is they like Africa where split into so many groups who didn't get along or had different alliances with French or other countries....took the white man about 200 years to conquer all of N. America 1622 to 1890
...Damn a country big as America completely taken over by invading whites from Europe in about 200 years blows my mind every time I think about it.Air Force Pararescue are the best there is. Most, if not all of ou cats have never even heard of them. They are on a different mission than these other groups. Check them out. No one can hold a candle to them.
I didn't see this post, but I agree with you 100 percent, even though I'm a navy guy, I take my hats of to them. Any group of men with that skills set who's main job is to save another mans life I take my hat off too.
just jokes man, I know most people use Jebal and Dubai interchangably. As far as the spec war, I don't know. I don't run up behind there asses like a lot of people when they are onboard the ships. I have worked with them for several exercies and they seem to be decent folks. As far as fighting so many people get there ass whooped on deployment I don't keep count of what unit they are apart off.
Yea i got you, but you know how a squid get hen telling a sea story. but only reason it was something i remebered was because after that shit happened we was restricted to fleet landing for the next 2 port visits there. six month deployment 4 visits to gerbel alley.
You bring up a good point but yes even that last stretch of the pacific was not compromised do to the Japanese leadership fucking up and not just continuing on to LA & San Fran..... they said at the time Japanese could have made it all the way to Chicago easy
The different Special Ops groups in the different Military Branches all are trained to take on specific tasks and missions. For example.........
-Green Berets: They are trained to be dropped anywhere in the world and fend for themselves. They train foreign rebel groups in guerrilla warfare type training and can train small armys
-US Rangers: They are trained to seize and secure areas like airports, military installations, govt HQ's etc.
-Air Force Special Ops: Provide close air support in helicopter operations in all weather environments.
-Navy SEALS: Small group units trained to go in and get out quick in hostile situations and close quarter operations. They are not equipped to stay in a area for a extended period of time like Green Berets
-Marine Force Recon: Larger in group size than Navy Seals and can perform and employ the same tactics with a larger group with bigger logistical and air support.
No group is better than the other, they are trained and equipped for specific type of missions.
Peace.
-Green Berets: They are trained to be dropped anywhere in the world and fend for themselves. They train foreign rebel groups in guerrilla warfare type training and can train small armys
-US Rangers: They are trained to seize and secure areas like airports, military installations, govt HQ's etc.
-Air Force Special Ops: Provide close air support in helicopter operations in all weather environments.
-Navy SEALS: Small group units trained to go in and get out quick in hostile situations and close quarter operations. They are not equipped to stay in a area for a extended period of time like Green Berets
-Marine Force Recon: Larger in group size than Navy Seals and can perform and employ the same tactics with a larger group with bigger logistical and air support.
No group is better than the other, they are trained and equipped for specific type of missions.
Peace.
Don't get mad.
Hollywood needs to make a Movie about Marine Corps Force Recon.
The Green Berets have had a movie about them, GI Jane was about Navy S.E.A.L.S, plus another movie was about Navy Seals, Delta Force has had movies about them, The Unit on CBS is about Delta Force, the Army Rangers have been mentioned in HUNDREDS of Movies including the FOUR about John Rambo (Stallone).
Once Hollywood "certifies" Force Recon as "legit Bad-Asses", then they'll get the same respect as all the other Elite Military Units.
The Movie "Shooter" with Walberg, was about a dude that was a Marine Scout Sniper, check it out if you haven't seen it.
Were just not that protected from the people already here. You hold your hands open alittle to long and someone is bound to cut them off.
Air Force Pararescue are the best there is. Most, if not all of ou cats have never even heard of them. They are on a different mission than these other groups. Check them out. No one can hold a candle to them.
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Exactly..
Arguing about which special operations force is better is like arguing about which color is the best. Each of them is the best at what it does. Also, being in special forces doesn't mean you can automatically whoop mike tyson and bruce lee and Fedor in unarmed hand to hand combat. If you are unarmed on the battlefield, the shit has already hit the fan. They aren't martial artists, they are soldiers.
Marine Force Recon are some bad bastards. They undergo a lot of the same training as the Seals. I dare you to find a better team anywhere in the world when it comes to operating deep behind enemy lines carrying out dangerous recon missions. Snipers, explosives, reconnaissance, HALO, etc... Nobody really wants to tangle with a Force Recon Team on the ground. I've read articles from Seal Commanders singing the praises of Force Recon Marines.
Nobody is better when it comes to underwater operations than a SEAL team. No other special ops team does as much water training, underwater explosive training, as the Seals. They get a lot of hype b/c of their grueling BUDS training, and it is grueling. They are also the group that everyone seems to know the most about.
The Army rangers are the elite light infantry force in the world. They are who is called to come in and be the ground force to support a smaller special operations team. The rangers are hard core, there is always a team that is on standby... prepared to get anywhere in the world within 8 hours and be kicking ass immediately. They don't get all of the special training that the smaller 'elite' units get, they focus on just being the toughest infantry in the world. Not many Marines will admit it, but the Rangers are probably a step up from your standard Marine infantry unit... and we all know how tough the marines are. The marines look at themselves as elite from top to bottom... and they are.
Army Special Forces aka green berets... They operate in 12 man teams. Each member is fluent in another language. Each member is a specialist in a specific field. Medicine, Engineering, Weapons, Communications etc. You can send in 12 green berets to the jungle in colombia, and then 8 months later they will have gone out and trained their own army. If the CIA / government decides it wants to overthrow venezuela's regime... they don't have to send in the army and marines... they send in 12 guys into the colombian jungle and don't tell anyone in the media shit. 12 months later there is an uprising of guerilla forces taking over a government.
The Delta force is made up of ex Special Forces, Rangers, Seals, etc. Their specialty is Counter Terrorism. They are trained in espionage, sabotage, theft, breaking and entering, explosives, and especially close quarters combat and hostage extraction. They know every inch of every airplane ever made. They will spend months planning a mission, and that mission will last less than 30 seconds of live action time. They will bust into a room and shoot every bad guy 2X in the head before the hostages even know what is happening.
There are a lot of common skill sets and all of their jobs and training overlap to a large degree.
Marine Force Recon are some bad bastards. They undergo a lot of the same training as the Seals. I dare you to find a better team anywhere in the world when it comes to operating deep behind enemy lines carrying out dangerous recon missions. Snipers, explosives, reconnaissance, HALO, etc... Nobody really wants to tangle with a Force Recon Team on the ground. I've read articles from Seal Commanders singing the praises of Force Recon Marines.
Nobody is better when it comes to underwater operations than a SEAL team. No other special ops team does as much water training, underwater explosive training, as the Seals. They get a lot of hype b/c of their grueling BUDS training, and it is grueling. They are also the group that everyone seems to know the most about.
The Army rangers are the elite light infantry force in the world. They are who is called to come in and be the ground force to support a smaller special operations team. The rangers are hard core, there is always a team that is on standby... prepared to get anywhere in the world within 8 hours and be kicking ass immediately. They don't get all of the special training that the smaller 'elite' units get, they focus on just being the toughest infantry in the world. Not many Marines will admit it, but the Rangers are probably a step up from your standard Marine infantry unit... and we all know how tough the marines are. The marines look at themselves as elite from top to bottom... and they are.
Army Special Forces aka green berets... They operate in 12 man teams. Each member is fluent in another language. Each member is a specialist in a specific field. Medicine, Engineering, Weapons, Communications etc. You can send in 12 green berets to the jungle in colombia, and then 8 months later they will have gone out and trained their own army. If the CIA / government decides it wants to overthrow venezuela's regime... they don't have to send in the army and marines... they send in 12 guys into the colombian jungle and don't tell anyone in the media shit. 12 months later there is an uprising of guerilla forces taking over a government.
The Delta force is made up of ex Special Forces, Rangers, Seals, etc. Their specialty is Counter Terrorism. They are trained in espionage, sabotage, theft, breaking and entering, explosives, and especially close quarters combat and hostage extraction. They know every inch of every airplane ever made. They will spend months planning a mission, and that mission will last less than 30 seconds of live action time. They will bust into a room and shoot every bad guy 2X in the head before the hostages even know what is happening.
There are a lot of common skill sets and all of their jobs and training overlap to a large degree.
Actually, Smallpox was Number 1. It is estimated that the population of the Western Hemisphere was around 100 million before Columbus arrived, and that over 90% of the population was killed by Smallpox when the Spanish Conquistadors arrived on the mainland. Also, Metal armor made the Conquistadors almost invincible vs Aztec and Inca weapons.
.....I bet you really believe that shit!!!...probably read it in some book or heard in in a class...You better learn to view HIStory thru your common sense...
Besides disease whether biological genocide or diseases due to change of climate, displacement and interaction with white people.
MOTHERFUCKIN SMALL POX WASN'T THE 90% KILLER OF NATIVES!!
GUNS, KNIVES, ALCHOHOL, INVASION, SLAVERY, MASS KILLINGS, DESTRUCTION OF RESOURCES(BUFALLO ect..ect), TRIBAL IN-FIGHTING AND ASSIMILATION INTO EURO SPANISH HERITAGE WAS ONLY 10%
GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE.....
I SWEAR THERE ARE SOME DUMB MOTHERFUCKERS IN THIS WORLD THINK BECAUSE THEY READ OR HEARD SOMETHING IT'S GOTTA BE TRU.....SOME HISTORY BOOKS ARE WRITTEN BY LIARS!!!....AND READ BY DUMMIES WHO THINK THEIR SMART!
That's because our hands are tied because we follow the Laws of War or LOAC.
Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laws_of_war
By the way, I think the laws of war are a good thing. It keeps everything in perspective.
Also rice farmers and Iraqis use "asymmetric warfare" tactics. In other words, they put images of children and women on tv as victims. They also take off their uniforms and put on civilian clothes and tricks like that...road bombs, booby traps.
We are not allowed to do this because we are forced to play fair.
Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asymmetric_warfare
Air Force Pararescue are the best there is. Most, if not all of ou cats have never even heard of them. They are on a different mission than these other groups. Check them out. No one can hold a candle to them.
WTF ever!
A lot of people don't know about Air Force special ops. There is also TacP, and Combat Control aside from para rescue
Yo man, I don't want to come in here and clown. But please someone tell me of a War (after WWII) that the US has actually won? When I mean won, I mean they don't have to leave troops over there to watch the other side just in case they come back (like Korea and Iraq). When we won in Japan, we WON. I haven't seen the US win since then!
co-sign 100%. proven in Iraq, Vietnam,Somalia, Afghanistan. Amazing the myopia on this board
Define hot, you ass-clown?
Panama
Grenada
You're looking at this all wrong. The people who are pulling the strings want a perpetual war.
That provides them with the opportunity to transfer billions upon billions of federal dollars into the pockets of their friends right out in the open.
not as tough as the russian spetsnaz
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