Naruto Manga Discussion

[Flawless]

nah uzumaki and senju are explained like this.

Mother has two children, boy ( senju) and girl ( senju), boy keeps base senju name.... girl marries into another nation or line( uzumaki)

now boy has son...Senju.... girl has son ( uzumaki )

( uzumaki) apparently has a blood limit combined with Senju, thus all uzumaki's who breed within pool have red hair. Tobi/madara manipulated Nagato as a child, or stole him.inserted the rinnegin and sent that pup to the rain village.

now the question is, what the hell is the fourth( senju line?)

Nope, Senju's wife was a Uzimaki, they are both descendants of the six path son who didnt get the eye ability. Uzamakis have a longer life span and more stamina than regular ninjas which is one of the traits they got from their ancestor, thats why they are good candidates to host the tailed beast like Naruto's mother and the first hokage's wife who is naruto's grand mother

 

[Gaara]

Why was Madara wearing a mask with only one eye hole if he actually had both eyes...seems very convenient for the plot. That just came out of knowhere. Now he's back to status quo.

Dont forget that Madara has a lab full of uchiha eyes. He's probably been spammin izanagi for a while and replacing his eye with the ones at the lab. Im trying to figure out how he obtained Shodai's power. In order to use izanagi you have to have it. Mabey the EMS has some kinda captain ginyu soul swap type shit going on. I really dont think that its Madara behind the mask. Why would he keep his face covered for so long. Why was he so shook when Kabuto opened that coffin. I still say its Obito.

 

[blaqueman]

I thought of Obito as well, however If I can recall didn't Obito give Kakashi his right eye? To me the only eye that's constantly shown is his Right Eye, thus making the 'theory' of Obito pointless, however, this is Naruto and the 'Laws' are not followed for the Fan Favorite Clan RE: the Sharigan Assholes !!!

 

[Flawless]

I thought of Obito as well, however If I can recall didn't Obito give Kakashi his right eye? To me the only eye that's constantly shown is his Right Eye, thus making the 'theory' of Obito pointless, however, this is Naruto and the 'Laws' are not followed for the Fan Favorite Clan RE: the Sharigan Assholes !!!

Obito was just a kid when Konoha was attacked by the 9 tails, I think madara learnt about the 6 paths abilites from the naka shrine, he must of used the rinnegan eye to read all of it

The Naka Shrine (南賀ノ神社, Naka no Jinja; Literally meaning "Shintō Shrine of Southern Joy") is a shrine in Konoha. In the main hall, beneath the seventh tatami mat from the far right, is a secret meeting place of the Uchiha clan. In there is a tablet containing the clan's secrets. The tablet can only be read with specific dōjutsu, with the Sharingan, Mangekyō Sharingan, and Rinnegan being able to read more than the other, respectively. Here the secrets of the Mangekyō Sharingan are written, as is the story of the Sage of the Six Paths and the Ten-Tailed Beast.

 

[kidmegaii]

So Madara got his fake arm blown off, he still fucked up from the fight vs the 1st, at this point I don't think there is someone who can fix him up, and don't think his current body can handle be a Jin. Kisame just sent back a message to Madara detaling the adventures of Naruto & Kyuubi. I've got a bad feeling we'll be seeing a haired brain plot from Madara to steal a fresh super charged Uzamaki body.

 

[Flawless]

So Madara got his fake arm blown off, he still fucked up from the fight vs the 1st, at this point I don't think there is someone who can fix him up, and don't think his current body can handle be a Jin. Kisame just sent back a message to Madara detaling the adventures of Naruto & Kyuubi. I've got a bad feeling we'll be seeing a haired brain plot from Madara to steal a fresh super charged Uzamaki body.

didn't that guy who chewed clay lose a arm also? if he can replace eyes im sure he can replace limbs.

 

[kidmegaii]

didn't that guy who chewed clay lose a arm also? if he can replace eyes im sure he can replace limbs.

Peep when he got his arm blown off, their wasn't any blood, so I doubt he has a closet full of arms.

 

[Flawless]

Peep when he got his arm blown off, their wasn't any blood, so I doubt he has a closet full of arms.

I guess we we will I thought when he uses izanaga he would of imagined his arm back on.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

Obito was just a kid when Konoha was attacked by the 9 tails, I think madara learnt about the 6 paths abilites from the naka shrine, he must of used the rinnegan eye to read all of it

Obito was dead b4 the Kyuubi attacked the village....Remember he died when Kakashi was a teenager....By the time the Kyuubi attacked Kakashi was a grown man.

 

[Flawless]

 

[Gaara]

I thought of Obito as well, however If I can recall didn't Obito give Kakashi his right eye? To me the only eye that's constantly shown is his Right Eye, thus making the 'theory' of Obito pointless, however, this is Naruto and the 'Laws' are not followed for the Fan Favorite Clan RE: the Sharigan Assholes !!!

Nah he gave kakashi is Left....

 

[Flawless]

Obito isn't madara, I think Madara uses the eternal Sharingan on his right eye and uses his left eye as a disposable for doing shit like izanaga

 

[qseal00]

So, for the confused, lemme get you up to speed.

Sage of the Six Paths discovers ninjustsu and seals the Juubi aka the Ten Tails into himself, becoming the first Jinchuuriki aka Tailed Beast Host.

He obtains the Rinnegan as a mutation of containing the Juubi inside himself.

Fathers two sons that inherited his abilities. One recieves his eyes/power (Uchiha, Hyuuga ancestor), the other receives his body/vitality (Senju, Uzumaki ancestor).

Before he dies, he performs three acts:

1: He splits the Juubi's chakra and creates the 9 tailed beasts with the Izanagi jutsu

2: He then seals the Juubi's body BY CREATING THE FUCKING MOON.

3: He names his younger son as his successor creating a blood feud between the Senju and Uchiha that Madara is trying to kick back up.

 

[Flawless]

so which came first, the sharingan or the byakugan?

Which specific Senju power did Madar get from the first? Danzo with the help of orochimaru got fused some of the 1st dna with himself why he was able to do izanaga.

Im think the senju must have a equivalent to Izanaga, because u dont need the senju skill to be able to do the senju skill only allows u to keep it active longer

 

[qseal00]

so which came first, the sharingan or the byakugan?

Which specific Senju power did Madar get from the first? Danzo with the help of orochimaru got fused some of the 1st dna with himself why he was able to do izanaga.

Im think the senju must have a equivalent to Izanaga, because u dont need the senju skill to be able to do the senju skill only allows u to keep it active longer

They prolly are just splits from the older brother. One line went one way, making the Uchiha and one went the other way, creating the Byakugan.

We actually don't know that. I'm still of the persuasion that Tobi is not Madara.

Nah, the Senju don't. The reason why you need the Senju to use the techinique is because it's a jutsu of the Sage of the Six Paths, who had blood of both since he originated all this shit.

 

[ansatsusha_gouki]

No Naruto next week.....Kishimoto will debut a new manga next week.

This week's chapter was boring

Madara's new mask look good.

 

[blaqueman]

Well Kishimoto is finally getting fed up of his star child, but what was the point of that whole FLip your card around? It didn't make any sense the bitch died and she didn't even plant a bomb, now they're going after Naruto who has no 'development' time, hahaha this will be interesting I'm certain that the Eye Fag will be his saviour, and yeah Tobi's Mask is hella good, with that stick in his hands he looks like the 'Angel of Death' lol !

 

[blackichigo]

This chapter was kinda shitty but i do like Mandara's new mask. It looks like he is gonna be rocking a third eye. He sorta reminds me a Tien from dragonball

 

[chops]

Looks like he got his arm back.....WTF is going on?!


http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/63074102/18




maybe he got a prosthesis

 

[Flawless]

Looks like he got his arm back.....WTF is going on?!


http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/63074102/18




maybe he got a prosthesis

I figure he used izanagi to imagine a new arm back on.

When Izanagi is activated, it is capable of turning injuries and even death inflicted upon the user into mere illusions. Whenever the user receives a fatal injury, their body fades away as a genjutsu. The user then returns back to reality, physically real and unscathed. Danzō, in an effort to make practical use of the jutsu, had ten Sharingan embedded onto his right arm. This allows Danzō to increase the length of time that Izanagi can stay active, as well as the number of times he could use it in succession. However, not being of Uchiha blood, this technique requires substantial amount of chakra for Danzō to use, which is made possible only by the transplant of Hashirama Senju's DNA to increase his energy.

 

[Alumni]

so which came first, the sharingan or the byakugan?

Which specific Senju power did Madar get from the first? Danzo with the help of orochimaru got fused some of the 1st dna with himself why he was able to do izanaga.

Im think the senju must have a equivalent to Izanaga, because u dont need the senju skill to be able to do the senju skill only allows u to keep it active longer

It is said in the managa that the sharingan come from the byakugan.http://www.narutohq.com/advanced-bloodlines.php

 

[bkenshin]

I still can't believe that Konan did not dispose of Nagato's & Yahiko's bodies. Fucking stupid writing...

And he's coming out with a one shot? Let's see how this one turns out...

 

[Flawless]

So what purpose does sasuke serve in the series now? He's not the bad guy and Naruto is no longer searching for him so what purpose does he serve? Only thing I can think of is he might help Naruto from getting his ass beat from Madara, its just sad they spent all this time hyping Sasuke and now if his character should dissapear it wouldn't affect the storyline.

 

[kidmegaii]

I still can't believe that Konan did not dispose of Nagato's & Yahiko's bodies. Fucking stupid writing...

She put their bodies in a location she only knew of. She set an elaborate trap specially for Madara, and was confident it would succeed. No reason for her to desecrate Nagatos corpse by removing his eyes.

 

[TheProdigal]

Looks like he got his arm back.....WTF is going on?!


http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/63074102/18




maybe he got a prosthesis

Remember this is the second right arm he's lost. He ripped it off whilst fighting danzos bodyguard when it got infected. Then easily got it rplaced when he went back to his hideout and seemingly felt no pain. Maybe he has a fake body or something


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[blaqueman]

She put their bodies in a location she only knew of. She set an elaborate trap specially for Madara, and was confident it would succeed. No reason for her to desecrate Nagatos corpse by removing his eyes.

K I can understand that, but by logic, 'Madara' said show me where you're hiding the body not what traps you've got laid out for me, he was supposed to have been taken out by her 'traps' that she set right? I'm confused as hell, cause her filler story made little to no sense for me, if you went thru such an elaborate plan it should 'work' right? Also her card was up when Madara took the body her card flipped over what did that mean ?????

 

[chops]

K I can understand that, but by logic, 'Madara' said show me where you're hiding the body not what traps you've got laid out for me, he was supposed to have been taken out by her 'traps' that she set right? I'm confused as hell, cause her filler story made little to no sense for me, if you went thru such an elaborate plan it should 'work' right? Also her card was up when Madara took the body her card flipped over what did that mean ?????

Basically, her last action was to "flip" her card over......everyone else's cards were flipped over b/c they werent there. Her's was left as "she is in the hideout" So.....it was a really elaborate way of saying...i know she has fans and shit....but shes dead...they're allllllll dead!!!!

 

[blaqueman]

Ah thanks for the explaination Chops, so now we've got to see if Naruto will be taken out of the game for good, I wonder if Itachi's gift will activate when it sees 'Madara' or only on Sasuke what do you guys think ?

 

[Jae]

Looks like he got his arm back.....WTF is going on?!
http://mangastream.com/read/naruto/63074102/18
maybe he got a prosthesis

So what purpose does sasuke serve in the series now?Only thing I can think of is he might help Naruto from getting his ass beat from Madara

 

[bkenshin]

She put their bodies in a location she only knew of. She set an elaborate trap specially for Madara, and was confident it would succeed. No reason for her to desecrate Nagatos corpse by removing his eyes.

Sorry, can't agree there. She should have had a contingency plan set in the event that something goes wrong. Forget removing his eyes, cremate their bodies... then cremate the ashes!

Kishi wrote it like that just so that he could get the eyes easily.

 

[Flawless]

Sorry, can't agree there. She should have had a contingency plan set in the event that something goes wrong. Forget removing his eyes, cremate their bodies... then cremate the ashes!

Kishi wrote it like that just so that he could get the eyes easily.

she had no plans of losing, she did countless simulations to beat him and if madara didn't pull izanagi out of his ass she would of beat him

 

[bkenshin]

she had no plans of losing, she did countless simulations to beat him and if madara didn't pull izanagi out of his ass she would of beat him

Regardless of whether she had plans for losing or not, disposing of those bodies (especially Nagato's) should have been paramount. What was she going to do with those bodies anyway except for mourn - something she could easily do with a memorial or memento of theirs. Unless she was planning to use the eyes herself, of which I highly doubt as Kishi wanted Madara to get them anyway. This practice (disposing a shinobi's body to do away with any bloodline techs & other secrets) was established very early on in the manga as something that all ninja should do. The fact that Kishi did not have one of his characters follow though on this, or at the very least explain why this was not done (not them being so confident in winning that they didn't feel the need to - which is assumed) is nothing more than lazy writing to me & I cannot eat it as anything else.

 

[Flawless]

Regardless of whether she had plans for losing or not, disposing of those bodies (especially Nagato's) should have been paramount. What was she going to do with those bodies anyway except for mourn - something she could easily do with a memorial or memento of theirs. Unless she was planning to use the eyes herself, of which I highly doubt as Kishi wanted Madara to get them anyway. This practice (disposing a shinobi's body to do away with any bloodline techs & other secrets) was established very early on in the manga as something that all ninja should do. The fact that Kishi did not have one of his characters follow though on this, or at the very least explain why this was not done (not them being so confident in winning that they didn't feel the need to - which is assumed) is nothing more than lazy writing to me & I cannot eat it as anything else.

Why didn't konoha destory the 1st and 2nd hokages bodies then? I haven't seen anyone in the naruto series destory a body so no one could get to the corpse yet

 

[bkenshin]

Why didn't konoha destory the 1st and 2nd hokages bodies then? I haven't seen anyone in the naruto series destory a body so no one could get to the corpse yet

So you see how Kishi says one thing, but does not follow through? That is my point. Why even bother stating that their bodies should be disposed of, but don't follow through with it? A major story flaw to me...

And that is just one example. I'm just saying if you are going to state something initially, something that all characters within your story should adhere to, then why not have those characters follow through on that? And if not give some just cause as to why not. Don't say left, then go right with no explanation aside from, "I'm the writer so deal with it". Writing like that is very irksome to me. One of the reasons why there are so many DC & Marvel books I don't read anymore.

 

[blaqueman]

@ Bkenshin, I agree with you totally, and its currently the reason why I'm having so much trouble trying to 'understand' that last story blasted thing made no sense whatsoever!