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thing is Itachi set that trap in Sasuke's eye to activate ameratsu if he saw madara so Itachi must know his true Identity, but if Itachi knows who he is and hasn't said anything that is some bullshit.
 
Flawless said:
cant be because Itachi saw him die and Danzo kinda confirmed it when he said he took his eye
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In this story anything is possible the author is forgetting his own 'rules'

Flawless said:
thing is Itachi set that trap in Sasuke's eye to activate ameratsu if he saw madara so Itachi must know his true Identity, but if Itachi knows who he is and hasn't said anything that is some bullshit.
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Very true, the only thing I can think of is a 'variation' of what you said before, but 'Madara' has said that since the fight with the first he's a 'version' of himself, suppose his technique is similar to Orochimaru where he takes over someone, but that person he takes over he must stay in their body but he can 'regenerate' by replacing limbs/parts that are no longer good?
 
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My only reason for it not being shisui or was that AO knows shisui chakra he saw it in Danzo at the ninja conference since danzo had his eye and he also looked at Madara that same arc and did t mention it.
 
klep said:
My only reason for it not being shisui or was that AO knows shisui chakra he saw it in Danzo at the ninja conference since danzo had his eye and he also looked at Madara that same arc and did t mention it.
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Shisui possessed the Mangekyō Sharingan which granted him access to powerful genjutsu techniques, the strongest of which was a unique genjutsu of the highest calibre: Kotoamatsukami. This technique allowed him to enter the opponents mind and manipulate them by giving them false experiences, making it seem as if they were doing things on their own free will; the victim wouldn't even notice they were being manipulated. This ability was apparently so unique and powerful, that Madara Uchiha himself (despite having access to both the Eternal Mangekyō Sharingan and the Rinnegan) coveted it, and was angry that Danzō managed to destroy the eye that was transplanted into him from Shisui at the moment of his death; Kabuto was extremely thrilled when he learned that the remaining eye is within Itachi's crow. This genjutsu however, could only be used once a decade, unless the user had Hashirama Senju's cells to augment the process, which would drastically reduce the time required from ten years to only a few hours.
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So I'm thinking the masked guy could have been the one who taught Orochimaru the body transfer technique and Orochimaru became obsessed with him which is why he wanted Sasuke so bad, because the technique can only be mastered under the uchiha bloodline.
 
Flawless said:
So I'm thinking the masked guy could have been the one who taught Orochimaru the body transfer technique and Orochimaru became obsessed with him which is why he wanted Sasuke so bad, because the technique can only be mastered under the uchiha bloodline.
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With kishimotos anything is game I still think the secret lies with black zetsu
 
klep said:
With kishimotos anything is game I still think the secret lies with black zetsu
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yah im thinking this

some kind of clone or something

it was a cool twist though

i also have a feeling the Saukai already know and knew from the start, Tobi, Madara, who ever the fuck he is, is not important Saukai has already figured him out a long time ago, he is the only one anyone should be worried about
 
nofrillz said:
yah im thinking this

some kind of clone or something

it was a cool twist though

i also have a feeling the Saukai already know and knew from the start, Tobi, Madara, who ever the fuck he is, is not important Saukai has already figured him out a long time ago, he is the only one anyone should be worried about
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my top three choices of who Tobi is...

3. New Uchiha Character

2. Madara's Brother

1. A double or clone of Madara. Like Muu or the zetsus.... Itachi is the smartest character in this whole series... He wouldnt address Tobi as Madara unless it was true. ESP since he went through the trouble of boobytrapping his brother. And honestly.... that would mean that Kabuto knows more than Itachi :smh:

its a clone
 
chops said:
my top three choices of who Tobi is...

3. New Uchiha Character

2. Madara's Brother

1. A double or clone of Madara. Like Muu or the zetsus.... Itachi is the smartest character in this whole series... He wouldnt address Tobi as Madara unless it was true. ESP since he went through the trouble of boobytrapping his brother. And honestly.... that would mean that Kabuto knows more than Itachi :smh:

its a clone
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Right! Itachi called him Madara! So it can only be a clone. Or maybe the other brother who .... But why would Madara know who Nagato was?
 
WhenTheGoingGetsTtuff said:
Right! Itachi called him Madara! So it can only be a clone. Or maybe the other brother who .... But why would Madara know who Nagato was?
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Madara gave Nagato the Rinnegan... he was only able to implant it into Nagato b/c Nagato is from the Uzumaki clan.

I think Madara did this when Nagato was a baby... or maybe before Jiraiya trained him. There has to be a reason why Zombie Madara was shocked that it was Edo Tensei that resurrected him and NOT the Rinnegan.

Also... When Nagato used his powers to give all of the life back to the people killed in Konoha... Tobi specifically said that it was supposed to be used for himself....


This Zombie Madara and "tobi" are the same person... With Madara's consciousness being in a body "tobi" That we have YET to identify.

Furthermore, I think this is the truth b/c it explains why Orochimaru was sooooo persistent in getting the eyes of the Uchiha.... He was driven not on belief that immortality would work but because he KNEW that Madara had achieved it!

THATs the only reason that Kabuto has Madara's body...
 
SO IF MADARA IS BROUGHT BACK FROM THE DEAD THEN WHO IN THE HELL IS THE MAN BEHIND THE MASK



JUST When i thought the series was slowing down this just got me back hyped
 
I think Madara used a tech similar to MUU, if not the same technique. Remember Itachi said Madara is nothing more than a shell of himself. Which means he either used the tech muu has which seperates himself into two clones which have half the power within each. One clone was killed, or to even go beyond it. If Madara used the same tech as naruto, yet modified. so what ever information was gained overtime would be attained when both clones joined again. I believe Madara was killed during the time of the Third HOKOGE. Which I stated this long ago. Madara now is a clone which was expiremented on, hell i even think thats why Orichimaru was essential to Akustki . BUt
 
I posted a similar theory on the previous page and on another thread...

Id bet on the Zetsu or Muu option. Him being able to replace his arm with one of the Zetsus arms was a big hint.
 
Just started wondering whatever happened to that extra casket that Orochimaru was trying to fight The third Hokage with waaaay back in the original Naruto Series??


I thought it was the fourth... seeing as how he resurrected the first and the second....


Can Kabuto use the fourth or is it not possible since Sarutobi stopped it from being "resurrected"


I wonder.
 
chops said:
Just started wondering whatever happened to that extra casket that Orochimaru was trying to fight The third Hokage with waaaay back in the original Naruto Series??


I thought it was the fourth... seeing as how he resurrected the first and the second....


Can Kabuto use the fourth or is it not possible since Sarutobi stopped it from being "resurrected"


I wonder.
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I use to think it was Naruto's father but since we recently found out his soul is locked up with that demon thing I dunno.


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In chapter 117 of the manga, when Orochimaru first performs the technique, he tries to summon a third coffin. When the coffin is not summoned, he comments on its failure. Years later, in chapter 520, Kabuto explains that Orochimaru's attempt to summon the Fourth Hokage had failed due to his soul not residing in the "pure world". In episode 69 of the anime, when Orochimaru used this technique, the coffin briefly appears, with "four" (四, Yon) written on it; though the summoning of the Fourth Hokage still fails. Based on Kabuto's demonstration, it would seem the actual failure would have occurred when Orochimaru performed the original preparatory ritual.
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Flawless said:
I use to think it was Naruto's father but since we recently found out his soul is locked up with that demon thing I dunno.


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That last part... " Based on Kabuto's demonstration, it would seem the actual failure would have occurred when Orochimaru performed the original preparatory ritual. "


Fuckin inconsistencies are driving me crazy!!! lol


But yea, so the fourth and the third should not show up in this shit at all....


thanks for the clarification
 
The whole shit was confusing when Naruto father felt that man's present and then Kabuto knew it wasn't.
Madara didn't want to see his own coffin.
What bug me the most is when Madara took his mask off and we still didn't know who the fuck he was his everyone forgot about that one.
 
ashimac said:
The whole shit was confusing when Naruto father felt that man's present and then Kabuto knew it wasn't.
Madara didn't want to see his own coffin.
What bug me the most is when Madara took his mask off and we still didn't know who the fuck he was his everyone forgot about that one.
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thing is we don't know if the mask guy is madara, so as of right now he is a imposter.
 
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Really???



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