Movies: NO Will Smith in INDEPENDENCE DAY sequel?! (and it seems he was RIGHT!) UPDATE: TWO SEQUELS!?
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You don't think he'll "bounce back" when Bad Boys 3 drops?
IF it drops..michael bay now talking about he may not direct that one either
Bad Boys 3 hitting the streets with Will Smith, says Martin Lawrence
Third film in the buddy cop franchise is gearing up after Will Smith and studio Sony show interest in going back on patrol, says Smith's co-star
Martin Lawrence has told US talk show host Conan O'Brien that a third Bad Boys film is on the way.
Asked about the long gestating project, which would see the 49-year-old comic reunite with Will Smith, Lawrence said the stars were beginning to align for the buddy cop sequel. "I just talked to [producer] Jerry Bruckheimer yesterday and he said its real, they're working on the script, they're getting close and it all looks good," he said.
In July Lawrence took to Twitter calling for a third film and asking Smith to get involved. "11 years ago today, Bad Boys II was released in theatres," he wrote. "Feelin' it's about time for number 3… what do you think Will Smith?"
Bad Boys, from 1995, was one of Smith's first box office hits, and marked the directing debut of Transformers' Michael Bay. A 2003 sequel, Bad Boys II, saw the duo reprise their roles as streetwise detectives Marcus Burnett and Mike Lowrey.
Bruckheimer said in April that the main obstacles to a third movie were finding space in Smith's busy schedule to shoot it and persuading studio Sony to get fully on board. "It's so funny because we'll get Sony real excited to make the movie, and then Will [Smith] is off doing two movies," he told Collider. "And then, Will will come back and be real excited about it, and Sony will say, 'Well, maybe it's not the time for this.'"
Bruckheimer said the studio's appetite for a sequel was no longer in doubt following the US box office success of the similarly themed comedy Ride Along earlier this year. "And then, Ride Along came out and was a big hit, and now they're all excited to make the movie, but Will is off doing something else," he said. "It's just trying to get everybody together to make it. But, we're working on the script. We have a lot of faith and hope that we'll do it."
PRODUCER DEAN DEVLIN CLARIFIES WHAT HAPPENED TO INDEPENDENCE DAY PART 3 (AND WILL SMITH)
The once planned trilogy is, for now, just a duology.
Now that we know that the Independence Day sequel is moving forward, two questions have come up for fans: What happened to the previously announced ID4 Part 3? And where’s Will Smith?!
Producer Dean Devlin, who along with director Roland Emmerich is responsible for both the original film and the upcoming sequel, recently addressed both topics while chatting with Nerd Report.
“We decided just to do one [sequel] first to make sure that people like where we’re going,” Devlin said. “If that works well, there’s an ability to do some world building which would be really fun and interesting to do. I think Roland and everybody felt, let’s just make sure 20 years later that people still are interested. I think in our case, we started to feel that maybe we were being a little bit arrogant by assuming that we could do two movies. We said you know what, let’s scale it down. Let’s first make sure that it works for everyone.”
As for Smith, who helped save the world in the original film (with Jeff Goldblum!), Devlin admits that while he doesn’t know why the star passed on the sequel, he did meet with the filmmakers about the project.
“I’m not sure of the reasons why Will ultimately decided not to do it,” he says. “You’d have to ask him. I think he was just at a place where he did seriously consider it. We had a lot of meetings with him, but at the end of the day he decided that doing this wasn’t right for him.”
And by the way, it looks like ID4 Part 2 (or Independence Day Forever or whatever it winds up being called) will impact Devlin and Emmerich’s planned Stargate revival. That film will now have to wait for the ID4 sequel to be completed, according to the producer, since Emmerich wants to direct the new Stargate as well.
The once planned trilogy is, for now, just a duology.
Now that we know that the Independence Day sequel is moving forward, two questions have come up for fans: What happened to the previously announced ID4 Part 3? And where’s Will Smith?!
Producer Dean Devlin, who along with director Roland Emmerich is responsible for both the original film and the upcoming sequel, recently addressed both topics while chatting with Nerd Report.
“We decided just to do one [sequel] first to make sure that people like where we’re going,” Devlin said. “If that works well, there’s an ability to do some world building which would be really fun and interesting to do. I think Roland and everybody felt, let’s just make sure 20 years later that people still are interested. I think in our case, we started to feel that maybe we were being a little bit arrogant by assuming that we could do two movies. We said you know what, let’s scale it down. Let’s first make sure that it works for everyone.”
As for Smith, who helped save the world in the original film (with Jeff Goldblum!), Devlin admits that while he doesn’t know why the star passed on the sequel, he did meet with the filmmakers about the project.
“I’m not sure of the reasons why Will ultimately decided not to do it,” he says. “You’d have to ask him. I think he was just at a place where he did seriously consider it. We had a lot of meetings with him, but at the end of the day he decided that doing this wasn’t right for him.”
And by the way, it looks like ID4 Part 2 (or Independence Day Forever or whatever it winds up being called) will impact Devlin and Emmerich’s planned Stargate revival. That film will now have to wait for the ID4 sequel to be completed, according to the producer, since Emmerich wants to direct the new Stargate as well.
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I think Will is more concerned with building Overbrook Entertainment which is quietly becoming a force in the industry. Plus I'm sure his new movie will do fine. The preview looked decent.
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Yeah there was a thread on it.
Got that right.
nah dont think so
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>It's official... we're thrilled to have the GREAT Judd Hirsch grace the set of <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndependenceDay?src=hash">#IndependenceDay</a> once again! <a href="http://t.co/vSIEQsZwjb">pic.twitter.com/vSIEQsZwjb</a></p>— Roland Emmerich (@rolandemmerich) <a href="">April 17, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Today we celebrate our <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/IndependenceDay?src=hash">#IndependenceDay</a> sequel. Welcome back, Bill Pullman. <a href="http://t.co/hR3qisg70i">pic.twitter.com/hR3qisg70i</a></p>— Roland Emmerich (@rolandemmerich) <a href="">April 17, 2015</a></blockquote> <script async src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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Will Smith Says It Was Terrible When He Found Out His Independence Day Character Died
Will Smith found it unpleasant to learn that the fat lady had sung on Steven Hiller, the character he played in 1996's Independence Day. "It was terrible when I found out my character died," Smith toldYahoo.
Hiller's death was revealed on a viral site for Independence Day: Resurgence. "While test piloting the ESD's first alien hybrid fighter, an unknown malfunction causes the untimely death of Col. Hiller," the site's timeline reads. "Hiller's valor in the War of '96 made him a beloved global icon whose selfless assault against the alien mothership lead directly to the enemy's defeat. He is survived by his wife Jasmine and his son Dylan." You can see an image of Hiller's fiery death by clicking here.
Smith was "working on Suicide Squad" when Independence Day: Resurgence was being shot, but Smith was approached several times in the past about reprising his role. "[IDR director] Roland [Emmerich] and I had talked about it," he admitted.
Smith did compliment the trailer for Independence Day: Resurgence and said it will be very emotional for him when he sees the film for the first time. "The trailer looks really cool," Smith offered "I’m going to be sitting around with tears in my eyes when that one comes out."
http://comicbook.com/2015/12/13/heres-how-will-smiths-character-died-in-independence-day-resurge/
Will Smith found it unpleasant to learn that the fat lady had sung on Steven Hiller, the character he played in 1996's Independence Day. "It was terrible when I found out my character died," Smith toldYahoo.
Hiller's death was revealed on a viral site for Independence Day: Resurgence. "While test piloting the ESD's first alien hybrid fighter, an unknown malfunction causes the untimely death of Col. Hiller," the site's timeline reads. "Hiller's valor in the War of '96 made him a beloved global icon whose selfless assault against the alien mothership lead directly to the enemy's defeat. He is survived by his wife Jasmine and his son Dylan." You can see an image of Hiller's fiery death by clicking here.
Smith was "working on Suicide Squad" when Independence Day: Resurgence was being shot, but Smith was approached several times in the past about reprising his role. "[IDR director] Roland [Emmerich] and I had talked about it," he admitted.
Smith did compliment the trailer for Independence Day: Resurgence and said it will be very emotional for him when he sees the film for the first time. "The trailer looks really cool," Smith offered "I’m going to be sitting around with tears in my eyes when that one comes out."
http://comicbook.com/2015/12/13/heres-how-will-smiths-character-died-in-independence-day-resurge/
That first Independence Day was very racist. They had all these different air forces from other countries working together to kill the space ships. Then at the end they show blacks with spears and primitive attire come out to look at the sky after all the space ships have been destroyed.
I know Elijah taught that it was black scientist driving the space ships. It was a mother ship with other space ships that come from out of the mother ship. Very strange coincidence. Parliament STARCHILD we have come to claim the pyramid.
I know Elijah taught that it was black scientist driving the space ships. It was a mother ship with other space ships that come from out of the mother ship. Very strange coincidence. Parliament STARCHILD we have come to claim the pyramid.
"Will Smith can not come back because he's too expensive, but he'd also be too much of a marquee name, It would be too much."
Today i learned being too famous can disqualify you for a major movie gig in hollywood.
Today i learned being too famous can disqualify you for a major movie gig in hollywood.
If Will Smith did every sequel they approached him with, his career would have died a long time ago.
His role in the first Independence Day wasn't pivotal enough to warrant molding the sequel around him.
Jeff Goldblum's character was slightly more important, but they probably could have made part 2 without him as well.
On the other hand, Smith costs $20 mil a film, and I'd be surprised if Goldblum pulls in more than $5mil.
His role in the first Independence Day wasn't pivotal enough to warrant molding the sequel around him.
Jeff Goldblum's character was slightly more important, but they probably could have made part 2 without him as well.
On the other hand, Smith costs $20 mil a film, and I'd be surprised if Goldblum pulls in more than $5mil.
guess Will was right...
reviews have been HORRIBLE!!!!
Half an hour into Roland Emmerich’s un-eagerly anticipated sequelIndependence Day: Resurgence, an underling informs a general (William Fichtner) that an alien vessel is about to displace much of the Atlantic Ocean: “Sir, the ship is over 3000 miles in diameter!” The general is incensed. “How the hell did we miss this?” he snarls. How the hell did we? We’ve barely seen that ship, let alone gotten a sense of its scale. It’s as if someone hacked the effects budget a week before shooting and all the connecting tissue went into the bin.
Say what you will about the 1996 Independence Day (me first: it stunk), its makers had obvious affection for the invasion-from-space genre and seemed genuinely excited to use fledgling computer technology to pulverize the Earth.
Does Emmerich even care? Soundly ridiculed for his heartfelt Stonewall, he and his co-writers seem too depressed to put conviction into their trademark soap-opera subplots. So, there aren’t even any good-bad laughs — as in The Day After Tomorrow (2004), when virtually the entire U.S. population has been flash-frozen, but Jake Gyllenhaal is still trying to summon the courage to tell Emmy Rossum that he, you know, likes her.
The romantic lead here is Liam Hemsworth, a piece of deadwood that floated over from The Hunger Games series. The only spark in his scenes comes from Maika Monroe (It Follows) as his fighter-pilot girlfriend who’s also the daughter of haunted ex-President Bill Pullman. (Pullman: You should be with Jake. Monroe: He’s on the moon, remember?) All the main characters lose loved ones except, alas, Jeff Goldblum, whose tiresome dad (Judd Kirsch) is still dodging death beams and giving elderly Jews a bad name. For the record, Jessie T. Usher is the son of dead hero Will Smith (he didn’t need the sequel money) who’s angry with old pal Hemsworth over a lethal mishap I never quite understood, though it seems similar to the one that killed George Zipp in Airplane! Usher gets to hurl the climactic insult at the ugly alien queen who turns out to be the source of all power: “Get ready for a close encounter, bitch!”
Among the other casualties is Charlotte Gainsbourg as the researcher who rushes around with the dazzled Goldblum, setting up the scene in which Judd Hirsch exhorts his unmarried son to kiss her. Brent Spiner is the gaga scientist from the first movie who wakes up from a 20-year coma to scratch his butt in semi-close-up and tell the president that he has a plan to send cold-fusion bombs up the ass of the big alien ship. I’ll let you parse the metaphor. (Apropos Spiner: If the mad scientist from Independence Day can get resurrected, why not Data? Can’t Paramount give the TNG crew a last hurrah — on TV, say — before the old crew gets even longer in the tooth? Even that embarrassing mouth-breather Wesley Crusher could be redeemed, given Wil Wheaton’s internet-age fan base!)
Independence Day: Resurgence’s only real outrage is its use of an African strongman (Gbenga Akinnagbe) who has reportedly murdered a ton of his people — but gets a chance to redeem himself by disemboweling select aliens from behind with a pair of machetes. Evidently Emmerich’s rainbow coalition of earthlings has a place on the team for mass murderers. No wonder his Stonewall movie rang so hollow. At heart, he wants to make the world safe for predators.
reviews have been HORRIBLE!!!!
Half an hour into Roland Emmerich’s un-eagerly anticipated sequelIndependence Day: Resurgence, an underling informs a general (William Fichtner) that an alien vessel is about to displace much of the Atlantic Ocean: “Sir, the ship is over 3000 miles in diameter!” The general is incensed. “How the hell did we miss this?” he snarls. How the hell did we? We’ve barely seen that ship, let alone gotten a sense of its scale. It’s as if someone hacked the effects budget a week before shooting and all the connecting tissue went into the bin.
Say what you will about the 1996 Independence Day (me first: it stunk), its makers had obvious affection for the invasion-from-space genre and seemed genuinely excited to use fledgling computer technology to pulverize the Earth.
This hodgepodge has been thrown together in so slovenly a way that it’s no surprise the studio didn’t show it to the press.
Does Emmerich even care? Soundly ridiculed for his heartfelt Stonewall, he and his co-writers seem too depressed to put conviction into their trademark soap-opera subplots. So, there aren’t even any good-bad laughs — as in The Day After Tomorrow (2004), when virtually the entire U.S. population has been flash-frozen, but Jake Gyllenhaal is still trying to summon the courage to tell Emmy Rossum that he, you know, likes her.
The romantic lead here is Liam Hemsworth, a piece of deadwood that floated over from The Hunger Games series. The only spark in his scenes comes from Maika Monroe (It Follows) as his fighter-pilot girlfriend who’s also the daughter of haunted ex-President Bill Pullman. (Pullman: You should be with Jake. Monroe: He’s on the moon, remember?) All the main characters lose loved ones except, alas, Jeff Goldblum, whose tiresome dad (Judd Kirsch) is still dodging death beams and giving elderly Jews a bad name. For the record, Jessie T. Usher is the son of dead hero Will Smith (he didn’t need the sequel money) who’s angry with old pal Hemsworth over a lethal mishap I never quite understood, though it seems similar to the one that killed George Zipp in Airplane! Usher gets to hurl the climactic insult at the ugly alien queen who turns out to be the source of all power: “Get ready for a close encounter, bitch!”
Among the other casualties is Charlotte Gainsbourg as the researcher who rushes around with the dazzled Goldblum, setting up the scene in which Judd Hirsch exhorts his unmarried son to kiss her. Brent Spiner is the gaga scientist from the first movie who wakes up from a 20-year coma to scratch his butt in semi-close-up and tell the president that he has a plan to send cold-fusion bombs up the ass of the big alien ship. I’ll let you parse the metaphor. (Apropos Spiner: If the mad scientist from Independence Day can get resurrected, why not Data? Can’t Paramount give the TNG crew a last hurrah — on TV, say — before the old crew gets even longer in the tooth? Even that embarrassing mouth-breather Wesley Crusher could be redeemed, given Wil Wheaton’s internet-age fan base!)
Independence Day: Resurgence’s only real outrage is its use of an African strongman (Gbenga Akinnagbe) who has reportedly murdered a ton of his people — but gets a chance to redeem himself by disemboweling select aliens from behind with a pair of machetes. Evidently Emmerich’s rainbow coalition of earthlings has a place on the team for mass murderers. No wonder his Stonewall movie rang so hollow. At heart, he wants to make the world safe for predators.
i dont blame mk23666 for telling them to cut his blink-and-youll miss-it cameo from this
The 5 Most Ridiculous Things About ‘Independence Day: Resurgence’
It would be fun to think that “Independence Day: Resurgence” is as godawful as a lot of people want to say it is — that it’s the “John Carter” of bombastically overscaled paramilitary ’90s-nostalgia alien disaster flicks. But seriously, it ain’t that bad. (And let’s be honest: The 1996 original isn’t that good.) It’s a greasy high-cheese blockbuster served up by people who know (mostly) what they’re doing — which is to say, director Roland Emmerich, in the 20 years since “ID4,” has not lost his touch for shamelessly grandiose and derivative sci-fi schlock spectacle. That said, a movie like this one wouldn’t be a movie like this one if it didn’t offer at least a few invitations to giggle at it. Viewers, of course, are free to choose their own, but just to get you started, here are the 5 most ridiculous things about “ID4: Resurgence.”
The Most Ridiculous Character. His name is Dikembe Umbutu (Diobia Oparei), but then, what’s in a name? You will know him simply as “the warlord” (we meet him in the Central African desert where the carcass of the old alien spaceship is docked), and he has his own special technique for combating the deadly extraterrestrial menace. The other characters use machine guns, military jet fighters, cold-fusion bombs, and other stuff like that, but not our warlord: He’s sticking with what he knows best — the two machetes he carries around, criss-crossed on his back, for the entire film. (I don’t even think he takes them off to go to the bathroom.) Don’t get in the way of his blades, alien people! “You kill them from behind,” he gruntingly explains, and he means it, literally. There’s a great moment when a science nerd places his hands on an alien sphere, and suddenly he’s glued to it, and it’s sucking him in — and as everyone in the room rises up in alarm, you can glimpse the warlord in the background…reaching for that machete! He’s the closest thing the movie has to a character out of “Airplane!”
The Most Ridiculously Timely Political Allusion. The “ID4” films are not exactly big on topical relevance. How could they be, when the original film was so busy raiding the 1970s with its mash-up of “Close Encounters” and a two-dozen-characters-you-could-hardly-care-less-about disaster film? But in “Resurgence,” there’s one character who rings an unmistakably timely bell, and that’s the President of the United States — played by Sela Ward with a steely grin and a studiously tenacious “I am woman, hear me project my strong-on-defense military bona fides” resolve that’s a littletoo reminiscent of a certain presumptive Democratic presidential nominee to be coincidence. As much as the film would like to pretend that the casting is gender neutral, it’s not: Moments after she issues a terse command like “Take ’em out, commander!” the president then says, “Let’s hope to God we did the right thing!” in a way that no Morgan Freeman president would ever need to do. And the surest (unconscious) sign that the filmmakers may be a little nervous about the prospect of a Hillary presidency is the fact that…well, let’s just say that no one stays president forever. (But really, Willliam Fichtner?)
The Most Ridiculously Sincere Bromantic Line. “ID4,” of course, had Will Smith, and it made him a megaplex ultrastar, just as he made the movie an ultrasmash. In lieu of the late great Capt. Hiller, “Resurgence” has two joystick fighter jocks: Hiller’s military-hero son, Dylan (Jessie T. Usher), and his rival, Jake Morrison (Liam Hemsworth), who was nearly responsible for Dylan’s death. Attempting to mend fences, Jake says (in reference to the loss of Dylan’s parents), “I’ve been where you are. And I know how deep it hurts.” It takes about 20 minutes for the movie to recover from that line and regain its proper attitude of folks-gettin’-blowed-up-real-good nonchalance. What the movie never quite defeats is the cruise-control innocuousness of this “Top Gun Lite” pair, with Hemsworth and Usher as such smooth, bland, unruffled bros that even their dive-bombing scenes feel like they’re happening on autopilot.
The Most Ridiculous Person Carried Over From “ID4.” If the new movie — theoretically — is built around nostalgia for 1996, and the “Top Gun”-vs.-alien dogfights take us back to 1986, then what can you say about a character who makes us feel like it’s 1976? That would be Judd Hirsch’s Julius Levinson, who in the film’s deadliest scenes drives a school bus full of children across the desert, all so that he can drop words like “schmuck” and “putz” (are you laughing yet?) and then rendezvous with his son David (Jeff Goldblum), which allows him to deliver the rim-shot line, “We had to wait until the end of the world to get together?” (Okay, you can laugh now.) That Hirsch says all of this in a showbiz-Yiddish accent makes you think that he isn’t so much playing the leftover knish in an alien tentpole movie as auditioning for his very own Normal Lear sitcom.
The Ridiculous One-Size-Fits-All Design of Every Damn Alien Since “Alien.” Even if you haven’t seen “Resurgence” yet, you already know exactly what they look like: the jaws, the H.R. Giger skull head, the rasta tentacles that seem to have come out of a “Predator” sequel. Just as every description of an alien by anyone who was ever “abducted” used to have to look exactly like that slit-eyed, Charm Pop-headed prototype immortalized in 1977 by “Close Encounters of the Third Kind,” there’s an unstated law in Hollywood that every hostile alien invader has to be a direct variation on the ones in the “Alien” films. Admittedly, the queen alien in “Resurgence” does make for an impressive image, mostly through the sheer size of the thing. Which makes you realize that it may be about time to put this creature into the Macy’s Thanksgiving Parade.
It would be fun to think that “Independence Day: Resurgence” is as godawful as a lot of people want to say it is — that it’s the “John Carter” of bombastically overscaled paramilitary ’90s-nostalgia alien disaster flicks. But seriously, it ain’t that bad. (And let’s be honest: The 1996 original isn’t that good.) It’s a greasy high-cheese blockbuster served up by people who know (mostly) what they’re doing — which is to say, director Roland Emmerich, in the 20 years since “ID4,” has not lost his touch for shamelessly grandiose and derivative sci-fi schlock spectacle. That said, a movie like this one wouldn’t be a movie like this one if it didn’t offer at least a few invitations to giggle at it. Viewers, of course, are free to choose their own, but just to get you started, here are the 5 most ridiculous things about “ID4: Resurgence.”
The Most Ridiculous Character. His name is Dikembe Umbutu (Diobia Oparei), but then, what’s in a name? You will know him simply as “the warlord” (we meet him in the Central African desert where the carcass of the old alien spaceship is docked), and he has his own special technique for combating the deadly extraterrestrial menace. The other characters use machine guns, military jet fighters, cold-fusion bombs, and other stuff like that, but not our warlord: He’s sticking with what he knows best — the two machetes he carries around, criss-crossed on his back, for the entire film. (I don’t even think he takes them off to go to the bathroom.) Don’t get in the way of his blades, alien people! “You kill them from behind,” he gruntingly explains, and he means it, literally. There’s a great moment when a science nerd places his hands on an alien sphere, and suddenly he’s glued to it, and it’s sucking him in — and as everyone in the room rises up in alarm, you can glimpse the warlord in the background…reaching for that machete! He’s the closest thing the movie has to a character out of “Airplane!”
The Most Ridiculously Timely Political Allusion. The “ID4” films are not exactly big on topical relevance. How could they be, when the original film was so busy raiding the 1970s with its mash-up of “Close Encounters” and a two-dozen-characters-you-could-hardly-care-less-about disaster film? But in “Resurgence,” there’s one character who rings an unmistakably timely bell, and that’s the President of the United States — played by Sela Ward with a steely grin and a studiously tenacious “I am woman, hear me project my strong-on-defense military bona fides” resolve that’s a littletoo reminiscent of a certain presumptive Democratic presidential nominee to be coincidence. As much as the film would like to pretend that the casting is gender neutral, it’s not: Moments after she issues a terse command like “Take ’em out, commander!” the president then says, “Let’s hope to God we did the right thing!” in a way that no Morgan Freeman president would ever need to do. And the surest (unconscious) sign that the filmmakers may be a little nervous about the prospect of a Hillary presidency is the fact that…well, let’s just say that no one stays president forever. (But really, Willliam Fichtner?)
The Most Ridiculously Sincere Bromantic Line. “ID4,” of course, had Will Smith, and it made him a megaplex ultrastar, just as he made the movie an ultrasmash. In lieu of the late great Capt. Hiller, “Resurgence” has two joystick fighter jocks: Hiller’s military-hero son, Dylan (Jessie T. Usher), and his rival, Jake Morrison (Liam Hemsworth), who was nearly responsible for Dylan’s death. Attempting to mend fences, Jake says (in reference to the loss of Dylan’s parents), “I’ve been where you are. And I know how deep it hurts.” It takes about 20 minutes for the movie to recover from that line and regain its proper attitude of folks-gettin’-blowed-up-real-good nonchalance. What the movie never quite defeats is the cruise-control innocuousness of this “Top Gun Lite” pair, with Hemsworth and Usher as such smooth, bland, unruffled bros that even their dive-bombing scenes feel like they’re happening on autopilot.
The Most Ridiculous Person Carried Over From “ID4.” If the new movie — theoretically — is built around nostalgia for 1996, and the “Top Gun”-vs.-alien dogfights take us back to 1986, then what can you say about a character who makes us feel like it’s 1976? That would be Judd Hirsch’s Julius Levinson, who in the film’s deadliest scenes drives a school bus full of children across the desert, all so that he can drop words like “schmuck” and “putz” (are you laughing yet?) and then rendezvous with his son David (Jeff Goldblum), which allows him to deliver the rim-shot line, “We had to wait until the end of the world to get together?” (Okay, you can laugh now.) That Hirsch says all of this in a showbiz-Yiddish accent makes you think that he isn’t so much playing the leftover knish in an alien tentpole movie as auditioning for his very own Normal Lear sitcom.
The Ridiculous One-Size-Fits-All Design of Every Damn Alien Since “Alien.” Even if you haven’t seen “Resurgence” yet, you already know exactly what they look like: the jaws, the H.R. Giger skull head, the rasta tentacles that seem to have come out of a “Predator” sequel. Just as every description of an alien by anyone who was ever “abducted” used to have to look exactly like that slit-eyed, Charm Pop-headed prototype immortalized in 1977 by “Close Encounters of the Third Kind,” there’s an unstated law in Hollywood that every hostile alien invader has to be a direct variation on the ones in the “Alien” films. Admittedly, the queen alien in “Resurgence” does make for an impressive image, mostly through the sheer size of the thing. Which makes you realize that it may be about time to put this creature into the Macy’s Thanksgiving Parade.
I saw it tonight. The theater was packed
Here’s Why Will Smith Isn’t in the New Independence Day Movie
Twenty years ago, Independence Day launched a young Will Smith’s career into the stratosphere.
Independence Day: Resurgence opens in theaters Friday. But Smith’s familiar face will not be appearing on the silver screen to do battle against aliens with Jeff Goldblum, Vivica A. Fox, and Bill Pullman, all members of the original cast who signed on for round two. So why isn’t Smith back?
Fox has handily set up a full “War of 1996” website to help fill in the blanks about what’s been going on in the Independence Day universe since we last left it, back in 1996. Turns out, Smith’s character Steven Hiller has passed away. Specifically: “While test piloting the ESD’s new alien hybrid fighter, an unknown malfunction causes the death of Col. Hiller.”
Director Roland Emmerich shed some further light on the situation in an interview with HeyUGuys. Apparently, Smith was included in the original script as part of a central father-son storyline. But after Emmerich hired two new younger writers, they decided to flip the plot to be about a new, younger generation taking over, which rendered Smith unnecessary.
Smith, for his part, explained in an interview on BBC Radio 1Xtra that it really all came down to scheduling conflicts.
“It was one of those things — I had a couple of films lined up, I had Concussion andSuicide Squad, and so it was a decision, timing-wise, between Independence Day andSuicide Squad,” the actor said. “They were sending pictures from the set, and I was like, ahh.”
“The world is in a place of nostalgia right now,” he added. “Specifically in entertainment, there’s such a pull for nostalgia, so it was just the perfect opportunity and it didn’t work out.”
So there you have it: Smith chose Suicide Squad, and the writers quickly dispatched Steven Hiller and moved on.
Twenty years ago, Independence Day launched a young Will Smith’s career into the stratosphere.
Independence Day: Resurgence opens in theaters Friday. But Smith’s familiar face will not be appearing on the silver screen to do battle against aliens with Jeff Goldblum, Vivica A. Fox, and Bill Pullman, all members of the original cast who signed on for round two. So why isn’t Smith back?
Fox has handily set up a full “War of 1996” website to help fill in the blanks about what’s been going on in the Independence Day universe since we last left it, back in 1996. Turns out, Smith’s character Steven Hiller has passed away. Specifically: “While test piloting the ESD’s new alien hybrid fighter, an unknown malfunction causes the death of Col. Hiller.”
Director Roland Emmerich shed some further light on the situation in an interview with HeyUGuys. Apparently, Smith was included in the original script as part of a central father-son storyline. But after Emmerich hired two new younger writers, they decided to flip the plot to be about a new, younger generation taking over, which rendered Smith unnecessary.
Smith, for his part, explained in an interview on BBC Radio 1Xtra that it really all came down to scheduling conflicts.
“It was one of those things — I had a couple of films lined up, I had Concussion andSuicide Squad, and so it was a decision, timing-wise, between Independence Day andSuicide Squad,” the actor said. “They were sending pictures from the set, and I was like, ahh.”
“The world is in a place of nostalgia right now,” he added. “Specifically in entertainment, there’s such a pull for nostalgia, so it was just the perfect opportunity and it didn’t work out.”
So there you have it: Smith chose Suicide Squad, and the writers quickly dispatched Steven Hiller and moved on.
what did you think of it?
It was as bad as they say.
Movie should never have been made. Tried to copy original too much. Lame heart pulling attempts with killing off characters we didn't care about. 90's cheese in 2016? Fuck outta here.
Movie literally made me sick knowing I paid to see it. It was that bad. Annoying character getting to redeem himself later on plot point? Brazenly done. Fucker should have died when the script was being written. Fuck! I hate dis muddacunt movie.
Movie literally made me sick knowing I paid to see it. It was that bad. Annoying character getting to redeem himself later on plot point? Brazenly done. Fucker should have died when the script was being written. Fuck! I hate dis muddacunt movie.
It's popcorn flick. Lame jokes, last minute saves, impossible incidents that would kill most people, plot holes, bad acting, cliches and one liners.
I saw it for nostalgia purposes because I saw the first one opening night 20 years ago. If you just sit back, lower your expectations and take the ride you'll be okay. The sci-fi was cool...that's about it.
So for the people who saw it. This or BvS?
Which is worst?
Which is worst?
Damn... Was gonna be our Saturday loud popcorn flick.
Guess we'll wait for the kodi discount on this one.
Guess we'll wait for the kodi discount on this one.
Comedic gold!
I loved it
This shit is terrible even after you lower your expectations. BvS at least tried to treat the audience with some respect.
ID2 is hot garbage.
BvS is a good movie just not great.
I liked the Queen. Her scenes were good. She was the best actor in the film also.
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