More Nader on Obama

[BDR]

Someone convinced Nadar he was still relevant to go against Obama

 

[TheFuser]

It's becoming harder to not believe Nader is working for the republicans. Last time round he came out against John Kerry which of course is an indirect endoresment of Bush. Now this time Obama? Notice he always waits until the general election to start saying this.

"When the ax came in the forest, the trees said, 'Look! The handle is one of us!'"

 

[VegasGuy]

Do Black people breathe?
Dumb nigga.

Obfuscate the question when you ain't got shit to say. You been on the ropes this entire post defending that bullshit. This was expected. You bitch H are a fool.

-VG

 

[BoyJupiter]

Get off the ropes H.

 

[sharkbait28]

Name one "policy" of McCain's that is worse than Obama's and I will consider it.

Both want war with Iran.
Both want to restrict civil liberties
Both deny the facts about 9/11
Both voted to increase military budget spending
Both voted to continue fake-ass war on terror in Iraq and Afghan
Both are against (and have voted against) letting Americans get cheaper prescription drugs from Canada
Both are against impeaching Bush and Cheney for war crimes
Both worship Israel and try to "out love" Israel
Both voted for the NEW PATRIOT Act
Both want to restrict nuclear weapons in "brown" parts of the world, while the US is building new ones
Both support a National Missle Defense system that will NEVER WORK
BOTH support Telecom Immunity (fuck speeches, your vote matters)

Only significant differences are:

McCain as a POW will definitely close Guantanamo
and
Obama may be able to dance on beat during his inaugural ceremonies.



This is the SAME JOHN MCCAIN that "progressive" democrats BEGGED to switch parties and run as VP with John Kerry in '04. They are NOT different. They look different.

HHH.......you asked me a variation of this question in another thread a while back and I'm just gonna quote my answer to save myself some time.

On the domestic level.

1. Health Care. McSame.....no real policy here that deviates from business as usual. Barack's platform, while not quite "Universal Healthcare" offers a voluntary buy-in program that measurably expands the scope of accessibilty for the average citizen
2. Energy. While McCain does actually have an energy policy that goes beyond the "pollute at will" program of the Bush administration it falls well short of Obama's energy policy which adopts a Euro style cap and trade system (as well as incentivizing businesses via tax reform)
3. NAFTA. The differences here are not quite as stark as they might be inclined to say on the campaign trail. But while McCain won't touch it all Obama has a set of ammendments he proposes to add to the agreement to use the tax system to penalize companies that send the work overseas when it could be done at home and vice versa.

Oh yeah, Barack is actually looking to exit Iraq sometime this century....that's a big fuckin deal. I also don't think he'll be pursuing this hyper-aggressive stance against Iran. Obama is a centrist candidate, your list is somewhat accurate but it doesn't change the fact that the two candidates do have substantive differences that will impact your life.

I've said it before, but when you know you aren't going to win...it's easy to make promises and talk shit. If Nader and the Green party were serious, they would be trying to get spots in Congress...not running for President for show. Tell me...if Nader wins...what then? Congress is full of people that don't support him...he would never get anything passed. He would then compromise and be doing the same shit Obama is doing. I swear...some of you mofos just complain to be complaining.

Nader's goal is not to get elected, he's not an idiot. He knows theres no chance he'll be in the Oval office. Nader speaks directly to Dems because he knows that where he can use the threat of siphoning votes away as leverage to get the Dem candidate to take a more progressive stance on issues that Nader identifies as important. This is politics 101. He's playing an important role that will one day see a third party in the US.

You're absolutely right about him not having to compromise right now, compromise is only something you have to worry about once you're invited to the dance.

 

[kimchifunk]

from the recent polls, with bob barr and nader included, obama has a 15 point lead. without them included, the lead dwindled to 12 points.

the inclusion of barr and nader hurt mccain (4%) much more than it hurt obama (1%).

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-na-poll25-2008jun25,0,5763707.story

 

[African Herbsman]

really HHH, who fucking cares what nader thinks? wasn't he the reason idiot george was elected

The supreme court and diebold put bush into office. Don't believe the hype.

 

[kimchifunk]

The supreme court and diebold put bush into office. Don't believe the hype.

along with trick ballots where old people mistakenly voted for pat buchanan instead of gore, jeb bush and the gop's electoral shenanigans (throwing out ballots, revoking the voting rights of people with misdemeanors, hanging chads, etc).

but you're absolutely correct. scapegoating nader was the simpleminded solution that exploited people's gullibility and took the attention away from the electoral politricks and positioning a viable 3rd party in our bipartisan system.

 

[sharkbait28]

Bump.

I answered ya question bruh.......where you at HHH?

 

[higherthenyall]

Nice try Ralph but Obama is running for President.

It's best to cause change from the inside out, Not the other way around.
Assimilate.... Infiltrate....

 

[Damn Right]

I'll say it for the 5th time today.

Is Obama counting on the white power structure for support?
Or is he rallying on some bullshit message about "changing business as usual"?

look, put an end to all the bullsheit u kick. just go ahead and vote for mccain. now u no longer have 2 make these stupid azz posts jockin obama.

u can now be known as the anti-hero. hooray for you, muh fukka

 

[DaleMabry]

Black HHH attention whoring again huh?