Moon rock given to Dutch after the first Apollo moon landing was fake

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^THIS^ is the mentality of the "fake moon landing" people. So dumb they're barely capable of mastering the art of breathing. Case closed. :rolleyes:
 
You know when you call someone a liar, it's on you to prove it. Since there is zero proof of a hoax (a ton of supposition but no proof) I feel safe in saying "You're wrong".


That will be my absolute last post on this, the most ridiculous, nonsensical, lie-based, second only to the "birther" bullshit, fake ass controversy in recent time.
it's been TONS of proof muthafucka only to be ignored and shoddily "debunked" by dumb fags who have this dream of having a competent and truthful govt :lol:

you are the reason the world is in the shape it's in now son.
 
Good question. I'm not one of these landing hoax freaks but I do think there's someone that likes to keep silly shit stirred up probably as a distraction from real shit. "No comment"? Even a security officer doesn't say that shit.


Co fucking sign


I have blunt on ignore (just so he/she knows) but I did catch one of he/she comments about the realization of the rock being fake could be very embarrassing for the U.S. He/she actually brings up a good point. But since the U.S. has like 5 doctorates in Spin, a rebuttal similar to the question I proposed would have been equally just as effective imo (even if it wasn't true).

They could have even finished the statement with a "sorry for the confusion" to top it off.


Like I said, the no comment routine just leaves too much for speculation.
 
it's been TONS of proof muthafucka only to be ignored and shoddily "debunked" by dumb fags who have this dream of having a competent and truthful govt :lol:

you are the reason the world is in the shape it's in now son.
Okokokok this is the last one

You sir are lying. Every time some mark comes out with "proof" it's shot down because a) they don't know anything about photography or b)space/gravity. The only thing that gets exposed is the hoaxer's stupidity.
You choose to believe these people and that's fine, for you. But the truth is there is no real, credible proof of the moon landing being a hoax.

Blunt can go round and round with you on this but since I'm right and you're wrong, I don't see the need. I'm not going to become more right so I have nothing to gain. You and those that think like you can continue on. You chase fake boogeymen because you're too frightened to challenge real ones.
 
what if the u.s. and russia were secretly working together to build a joint secret space program and used the cold war as a means to fund and conceal it? the russians learned all they could about low earth orbit and the u.s. worked on launching and reentry vehicles. sort of like two cells working independently to achieve a greater goal. then we work hand in hand on a "national" space station with our old foes. also during this time the star wars program was also put in place providing defense from weapons from outside the atmosphere perhaps? :dunno:

something to entertain.:rolleyes:
 
what if the u.s. and russia were secretly working together to build a joint secret space program and used the cold war as a means to fund and conceal it? the russians learned all they could about low earth orbit and the u.s. worked on launching and reentry vehicles. sort of like two cells working independently to achieve a greater goal. then we work hand in hand on a "national" space station with our old foes. also during this time the star wars program was also put in place providing defense from weapons from outside the atmosphere perhaps? :dunno:

something to entertain.:rolleyes:
:dance:

hence my assertion that the cold was was a joke dude :yes:


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what if the u.s. and russia were secretly working together to build a joint secret space program and used the cold war as a means to fund and conceal it? the russians learned all they could about low earth orbit and the u.s. worked on launching and reentry vehicles. sort of like two cells working independently to achieve a greater goal. then we work hand in hand on a "national" space station with our old foes. also during this time the star wars program was also put in place providing defense from weapons from outside the atmosphere perhaps? :dunno:

something to entertain.:rolleyes:

Good point.
 
what if the u.s. and russia were secretly working together to build a joint secret space program and used the cold war as a means to fund and conceal it? the russians learned all they could about low earth orbit and the u.s. worked on launching and reentry vehicles. sort of like two cells working independently to achieve a greater goal.


I have made in effort to learn about both sides of the coin (simply because I love reading about history) and the scenario you proposed (Russia and U.S. actually being allies with the Cold War being a front)is an aspect of the perceived conflict I have come across.

Although some would say your scenario borders on lunacy fit for an avid conspiracy theorist it honestly wouldn't surprise me if it was somewhat true.


socratize said:
also during this time the star wars program was also put in place providing defense from weapons from outside the atmosphere perhaps?

I think you will like the thread I'm going to make tomorrow.
 
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hence my assertion that the cold was was a joke dude :yes:


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i wouldnt doubt it if it was honestly
Good point.
thanks
I have made in effort to learn about both sides of the coin (simply because I love reading about history) and the scenario you proposed (Russia and U.S. actually being allies with the Cold War being a front)is an aspect of the perceived conflict I have come across.

Although some would say your scenario borders on lunacy fit for an avid conspiracy theorist it honestly wouldn't surprise me if it was somewhat true.




I think you will like the thread I'm going to make tomorrow.
im sure i will as well. i have entertained the idea a few times because it just all seems to fit a pattern. i know some folks would call it lunacy and bordering on conspiratorial but knowing history as i do nothing is by chance or happenstance. for instance it has come to pass that the president himself not only baited the japanese into attacking but knew about pearl harbor before it happened because we were warned and did nothing.

http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1S1-9198906290866389.html

Elliott Thorpe, 91, Army Attache Who Warned of Japanese Attack - New York Times​
LEAD: Elliott R. Thorpe, a retired Army brigadier general who was chief of counterintelligence under Gen. Douglas MacArthur and delivered an unheeded warning about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, died Tuesday at Sarasota Memorial Hospital. He was 91 years old and lived in Sarasota. Elliott R. Thorpe, a retired Army brigadier general who was chief of counterintelligence under Gen. Douglas MacArthur and delivered an unheeded warning about the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, died Tuesday at Sarasota Memorial Hospital. He was 91 years old and lived in Sarasota. General Thorpe, the last ...

all im saying is it is a strong possibility that we are being deceived yet again by our government. :cool:
 
im sure i will as well. i have entertained the idea a few times because it just all seems to fit a pattern. i know some folks would call it lunacy and bordering on conspiratorial but knowing history as i do nothing is by chance or happenstance. for instance it has come to pass that the president himself not only baited the japanese into attacking but knew about pearl harbor before it happened because we were warned and did nothing.



all im saying is it is a strong possibility that we are being deceived yet again by our government. :cool:

yep

The oil trade embargo the U.S. levied on Japan basically gave them no choice but to attack the U.S, it was only a matter of time. Japan was willing to retreat from China and Indochina if the U.S. would open up oil pipelines but the U.S. turned down the deal.


FDR knew what was up, he conveniently moved the American Fleet from San Diego to Honolulu in anticipation.
 
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where's that BITCH lil tex at? :angry:

Nigga, it's tons of experiments done on moon rocks. Use google, it's your friend...

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Experts-Figure-Out-How-to-Turn-Moon-Rock-into-Oxygen-118983.shtml

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=7650

The Netherlands' Rijksmuseum said this week that the object was originally given to former Dutch prime minister Willem Drees in October 1969 by J. William Middendorf, a former U.S. ambassador to the country, during a tour by the three Apollo 11 astronauts.

The piece was given to the museum when Drees died in 1988, although it was seldom put on display.

During a showing in 2006, a space expert told the Rijksmuseum it was unlikely that NASA would have handed out moon rocks so shortly after Apollo returned to Earth.

Nigga, go back to feeding your four elephants and a turtle that you believe hold up the planet...

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
 
it's been TONS of proof muthafucka only to be ignored and shoddily "debunked" by dumb fags who have this dream of having a competent and truthful govt :lol:

you are the reason the world is in the shape it's in now son.

Shoddily debunked by actual science and numbers. The only "proof" niggas like you have is "I luked at dem pictahs and that big ol ship wud've made a big ol hole plus we ain't never been all the way up dere no how..."
 
Very true

I'm just wondering why when it was determined it was fake that U.S. officials simply didn't say the rock was intended to be commemorative rather than the actual rock. Instead they said no comment, which leaves too much room for interpretation.

Best guess come off like this ... but I'm sure I'm preaching to the choir:

1 The Govt. is too occupied with other things to even have known that NASA gave away "fake" Moon rocks, so their saying nothing was the best they could do considering the circumstances. :)

2 Leaving things they intentionally did wrong, or lied about up for interpretation is the standard M.O. for this Govt. (and others) so when finally caught, their defenders can still defend them and lose no ground while their detractors can attack them yet gain no traction. We are dealing with a tricky lot who all day dream up mysteries within enigmas, full of questionable doubts for both sides to ponder. :angry:

3 The Dutch are lying so they can get more Moon rocks? :D

4 The Americans sobered up years later after giving Moon rocks away when they discovered something of value about them (they do this with a lot of other things too) and started stealing them back "Mission Impossible" style. The Dutch are the first (but not the last) to notice they got "GOT" ... but look how long it took for them to notice! :eek:

The second one is more my view
 
mk,in stargate,ra is an alien right?
an old one at that,cause his face looked aged in the end.
where were the rest of his folk,or do they take turns fuckin
with earth?
or do they each have a turf they like to fuck with,seems ra was
an asshole.are there other system/planets in the "stargate world"
who have beings that are not so strict as ra.

he would have been like 10-20 thousand years old right,or older?
 
mk,in stargate,ra is an alien right?
an old one at that,cause his face looked aged in the end.
where were the rest of his folk,or do they take turns fuckin
with earth?
or do they each have a turf they like to fuck with,seems ra was
an asshole.are there other system/planets in the "stargate world"
who have beings that are not so strict as ra.

he would have been like 10-20 thousand years old right,or older?

In the movie Stargate it mentioned that the alien perpetrating as if he were Ra was the last of his kind (ninjas went extinct).
 
No, he was not the "real" sun god Ra. Just an advanced life form taking advantage of the fears and ignorance of primitive humanoids.

it just started on amc :cool:
so then he did the same to the mayans and aztecs,im guessin he showed his true form to them cause of my avi.
 
it just started on amc :cool:
so then he did the same to the mayans and aztecs,im guessin he showed his true form to them cause of my avi.

The depiction of the serpent was a major theme in just about every mythology/religion in the world in ancient times. Kukulkan and Quetzalcoatl were essentially the same god in Meso American culture. But the wrinkled up galactic geezer in Stargate didn't look like that.
 
The depiction of the serpent was a major theme in just about every mythology/religion in the world in ancient times. Kukulkan and Quetzalcoatl were essentially the same god in Meso American culture. But the wrinkled up galactic geezer in Stargate didn't look like that.

:lol:

mk will not like you crackin on his folk
 
No, he was not the "real" sun god Ra. Just an advanced life form taking advantage of the fears and ignorance of primitive humanoids.

Well, that is one way to read the movie "Star Gate" but then there is the other side which is: Yes, he was the Sun god Ra.

I haven't seen it in years and the TV version changed things up a bit (as to be expected) but while watching it I got the idea that his kind had been acting as various GODS of the past to several civilizations. His kind was a warring species and they fought each other and used humans to fight each other to gain supremacy. He was the last of his kind because he had offed his competition on Earth and elsewhere. Humans revolted and damn near killed Ra on Earth and so Ra left for easier pickings. Good thing they buried the stargate or Ra might have ordered up an off world army to quell the rebellion and take back his prize.
 
mk,in stargate,ra is an alien right?
an old one at that,cause his face looked aged in the end.
where were the rest of his folk,or do they take turns fuckin
with earth?
or do they each have a turf they like to fuck with,seems ra was
an asshole.are there other system/planets in the "stargate world"
who have beings that are not so strict as ra.

he would have been like 10-20 thousand years old right,or older?

Hmmm, I dunno why you think that I was there and shiii ... Oh yeah that's right we werrrrrre there. Nevermind. From what I understood of the movie and TV back stories (a little different, but the same) is that a group of his kind did come to Earth thousands of years ago and they acted as various Gods to various civilizations. They were a warring group ... Oh, just read what I wrote above ... :lol:
 
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Well, that is one way to read the movie "Star Gate" but then there is the other side which is: Yes, he was the Sun god Ra.

I haven't seen it in years and the TV version changed things up a bit (as to be expected) but while watching it I got the idea that his kind had been acting as various GODS of the past to several civilizations. His kind was a warring species and they fought each other and used humans to fight each other to gain supremacy. He was the last of his kind because he had offed his competition on Earth and elsewhere. Humans revolted and damn near killed Ra on Earth and so Ra left for easier pickings. Good thing they buried the stargate or Ra might have ordered up an off world army to quell the rebellion and take back his prize.


You contradicted yourself in your explanation though. Partly because Gods are immortal. And if I'm correct your boy got nuked to death in the movie.
 
what happened to that post you talked about the other day?

Doing more research on it to cover all my bases. I sent a link to eewwll and he found what I had to show him very interesting so that is a very good indication I'm going in the right place.


I should have it done this weekend.
 
Doing more research on it to cover all my bases. I sent a link to eewwll and he found what I had to show him very interesting so that is a very good indication I'm going in the right place.


I should have it done this weekend.

cool. i know its going to be worth the wait. :cool:
 
You contradicted yourself in your explanation though. Partly because Gods are immortal. And if I'm correct your boy got nuked to death in the movie.

Not really, Gods are NOT immortal. The stories of the Gods dying are many in mythology. They just live much longer then we do and don't seem to age like we do. Kinda like a fruit fly to a human. They would see the same looking human that was talked about by several generations while we watched them come and go in a week's time.

His getting nuked does nothing to the theory that he was the real Ra because the real Ra disappeared in the Earth's past (possibly due to the revolt mentioned in the movie) and became Amon-Ra or Ra-Amon (The hidden/missing Sun God)
 
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