He started being involved with gang shit because niggas tried to kill him!!! He had people in his camp set him up and people he put on was involved in it; Now whether you agree or not thats his reasoning; and he wasnt in any gang he was just around those cats; and he knew the rap game is full of gang shit and drug shit and everything else, still is to this day; everybody knows that; so its not a stretch that anyone involved in hiphop would be involved in "gang shit" also..maybe his talent was wasted but millions of people are still talking and listening to this dude almost 20 years after his death so maybe his talent wasnt wasted...
Monster Kody 2Pac Conversation Audio 1995 (Holy Shit)
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He started being involved with gang shit because niggas tried to kill him!!! He had people in his camp set him up and people he put on was involved in it; Now whether you agree or not thats his reasoning; and he wasnt in any gang he was just around those cats; and he knew the rap game is full of gang shit and drug shit and everything else, still is to this day; everybody knows that; so its not a stretch that anyone involved in hiphop would be involved in "gang shit" also..maybe his talent was wasted but millions of people are still talking and listening to this dude almost 20 years after his death so maybe his talent wasnt wasted...
I think his age is really being discounted here.
He wasn't 35 talking about starting to do these things.. he was in his early 20's still trying to figure out everything just like we all were at that age..usually.
by the time he had it figured out, his time was done.
i don't blame him for moving away from what he was brought up in .. when you get shot 5 times and you WEREN'T gang banging that changes you.. when you get sent to jail for a crime you claim you didn't commit.. that changes you. this conversation takes place right after he was released.. and he still had a plan of action to do something positive and address the issues we have that these other dudes who been here decades after could care less about on a grand scale.
Nah I'm just a part of action as opposed to aspiring to act. By your "logic" he had no time to act on his positivity.... Yet it was more than enough to act on his negativity? This conversation PROVES that he knew better but chose to destroy. All Eyes on me sold the most copies he ever sold and be followed that with an equally violent and divisive Makaveli.
He became a superstar from that, there is no denying that. The numbers show it.
Praising dude for what he planned to do is like praising Harriet Tubman for talking about starting the railroad but while she was alive she snitched on slave revolts.
He became a superstar from that, there is no denying that. The numbers show it.
Praising dude for what he planned to do is like praising Harriet Tubman for talking about starting the railroad but while she was alive she snitched on slave revolts.
Nah I'm just a part of action as opposed to aspiring to act. By your "logic" he had no time to act on his positivity.... Yet it was more than enough to act on his negativity? This conversation PROVES that he knew better but chose to destroy. All Eyes on me sold the most copies he ever sold and be followed that with an equally violent and divisive Makaveli.
He became a superstar from that, there is no denying that. The numbers show it.
Praising dude for what he planned to do is like praising Harriet Tubman for talking about starting the railroad but while she was alive she snitched on slave revolts.
He became a superstar from that, there is no denying that. The numbers show it.
Praising dude for what he planned to do is like praising Harriet Tubman for talking about starting the railroad but while she was alive she snitched on slave revolts.
You are completely ignoring the fact that this recording shows he KNEW better. He had this plan BEFORE releasing hit em up. He was already shot and home from jail. He CHOSE to do otherwise.
So now we don't judge people on what they actually did, but what they could have done 
And what has resulted from it?
I said in another thread that all these dudes claim Tupac was their favorite rapper and....
Why, because he contradicted himself so much and wasn't consistent. His negatives out shined the positivity.
And what has resulted from it?
I said in another thread that all these dudes claim Tupac was their favorite rapper and....
Why, because he contradicted himself so much and wasn't consistent. His negatives out shined the positivity.
So now we don't judge people on what they actually did, but what they could have done
And what has resulted from it?
I said in another thread that all these dudes claim Tupac was their favorite rapper and....
Why, because he contradicted himself so much and wasn't consistent. His negatives out shined the positivity.
We all live lives of contradiction at one point or another; does that mean i or u cant inspire or educate etc someone else?? and just because parts of his life were "contradicting" doesnt mean shit; show me a rapper who hasnt contradicted himself; does that mean these dudes cant help or inspire someone to do good?? I want you to show me a rapper who has/had a class taught about him at a major university; obviously that university thought he was important enough to teach about him; maybe they are teaching about his negatives...
preacher and tupac totally different; these dudes are claiming they are hearing from god!!!!! Thats called manipulation buddy; And im sorry but whats wrong with smoking weed???? I will answer that, nothing...Weed is illegal(which is and has been the biggest bullshit law ever) but that doesnt mean its immoral....
Props... I truly miss that brother! Hip hop has never recovered from his loss!
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Instead we are finding excuses for them
What the fuck you mean by that?
Who is this "we"?
The "we" white people use? Cause I never heard anyone excusing anything.
Do you even know the meaning of hte word "excuse"?
Or or you mimicking white talk radio?
A lot of the fuckery is tied to capitalism
Back in the day, survival was tied to our people converting to teh religion of hte missionaries
The oppressors come, destroy your food sources, and shelter
You are now at their mercy, they then condition you by controlling access to your basic needs
A lot of people have paying jobs but they buy it with their silence
A ot of people have money, they buy it with their silence towards non-whites and become vocal in the language of the oppressor e.g. Kevin hart wouldn't crack a gay joke but willingly cracks dark skin women jokes
What does that tell you?
Which is more damaging to us collectively?
So calling out gangstas and whatever else doesn't exempt those with a platform from using it
This generation is pure butter
I mean once a gangster or so called street thug kills, injures and rapes a black child, he is no longer has a victim pass, in my book... Because by fucking with the lives of our future they are not part of the problem created by the white man, and no longer a possible solution..
If they then become remorseful and would like a 2nd chance they have to earn it by their work not beg for it and expect the black community to back them up, on the strength of being black.
Too many times have I heard about a black man killing a black child yet the people in the hood protecting him with the non-snitching code, so that he is left on the street to kill again..
That shit has to stop and any one who hurts, kill or rape a black child should be delt with on the streets and in the prisons system, just like they deal with snitches!!!!
I truly miss that brother! Hip hop has never fully recovered from his loss.
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fucking and smoking weed is a problem?
BTW what the fuck is a preacher? Not a talker?
You are confused bro
Let me break this shit down to you.
The story of Peter and Jesus in teh garden before the soldiers came to get Jesus
Peter was amped up and said I got your back Jesus, i'll kill anyone messing with you
Jesus was like, nah just chill b cause before that cock crow you will say you don't know me, but hear what... I'll build my church on what you represent
Do you really overstand that little story?
Or do you need me to further break it down for you?
Your heart and mind needs to get to a balance i.e. in one accord to actualize in this life
It's a struggle we all have
So to call that struggle phony is being naive about life
Life is about discovery
About growth thru pain
About co-existing contradictions existing in the same plane but at balance
You see it in nature, the balance and contradiction existing in harmony, the water cycle, the plants that give off oxygen during the day and give off carbon dioxide during the night
The same fucking plant, give an extra oxygen during the day and taking it back during the night..... contradiction..... balance
This ends your lesson.
I'm going to get my fill of kale and cayenne for the nights meditation
"heard from who"?
I lived next to a killer
I rat him out
The just-us system gives him bail and he is back out
WTF you think is his next move?
There is no witness protect program in the hood
Your ass and your family is now in danger
You have no idea being in that situation.
So just stop with the fuckery
If everyone who snitched was given witness protection, there would be no crime and cops would not be able to feed their white families and send their kids to school.
Answer me this........
Where were the prisons during slavery?
For 400 years, where were the black criminals? the thugs? the drug dealers? the prison?
Where?
"heard from who"?
I lived next to a killer
I rat him out
The just-us system gives him bail and he is back out
WTF you think is his next move?
There is no witness protect program in the hood
Your ass and your family is now in danger
You have no idea being in that situation.
So just stop with the fuckery
If everyone who snitched was given witness protection, there would be no crime and cops would not be able to feed their white families and send their kids to school.
Answer me this........
Where were the prisons during slavery?
For 400 years, where were the black criminals? the thugs? the drug dealers? the prison?
Where?
Thats the problem, our warriors should protect our children not harm them and harm those who are trying to protect them..
Folks go out their way to get out a snitch, but yet folks that kill or harm children get a pass.. You don't see how fucked up that is?
All that's irrelevant. You said when he realized his time was up. It's been proven already that he knew better again this convo was AFTER the shooting and Jail so he knew better. That invalidates your saying his time ran out. He LET it run out.
Pac got caught up in some street bullshit, but had a strong foundation, a lot of us could have gotten caught up with stupid young shit, especially at such a young age..
The thing is, his mind was much more advanced than most at his age, and if he were allowed to have it develop the way Malcolm was, then his potential would have been infinite.
Man,, you are talking in circles
Full circles
"folks"
who is the folks you are referring to? the killers?
and they get a pass from "who"
Bro, you don't know what the fuck you are saying
People are scared of the fucking killers....... why? because they kill fucking people and are still on the streets
and if you tell the cops, you become a witness and you and your family gets NO PROTECTION from those sworn to protect and serve
They will kill you and your family and be out on the streets again
It's called survival
Why is that so fucking difficult to understand?
Where were the white snitches when the "pilgrims" were slaughtering the native americans
Old heads finna be mad.
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Man,, you are talking in circles
Full circles
"folks"
who is the folks you are referring to? the killers?
and they get a pass from "who"
Bro, you don't know what the fuck you are saying
People are scared of the fucking killers....... why? because they kill fucking people and are still on the streets
and if you tell the cops, you become a witness and you and your family gets NO PROTECTION from those sworn to protect and serve
They will kill you and your family and be out on the streets again
It's called survival
Why is that so fucking difficult to understand?
Where were the white snitches when the "pilgrims" were slaughtering the native americans
Look Im from the hood, and I lived the shit you read about, and from my experience I witnessed innocent kids in their teens get killed and everyone in the hood knows who did it.. Yet no one said shit, matter of fact folks was warned to keep their mouth shut, or else.. At the time I was young and dumb and followed the street code, and by doing so I was part of the problem with out even knowing...
Look if your into gangster shit, and get capped, well chalk that L to the game, I get it..
But the min a innocent kid gets popped then, in my opinion that shit is not part of the game and to me these fools should be delt with by the community the same way snitches get delt with..
To me other killers and gangster should go after kid killers, out of code, instead they said thats fucked up and turn a blind eye to it..
Shit, even the mob and gangsters in other countries protect their children and deal with kid killers, we are the only folks that play pussy when it comes to our own yet have no problem dying for sneakers or some shiny new rim..
As far as that pilgrim shit, what the fuck does that have to do with the price of rice in China, Im talking about us looking out for our children and you are bringing up folks who deliberately kill other folks, while protecting their own..
Dude, this is
Why would Suge put his own life in danger with the gun shots bro?
Cat was there after he played Bishop. Pac was a smart cat who wanted to embrace the streets: Thug Life.
Shit happens all the time. Smart cats in the city and the burbs fall into the trap. Some get shot and survive. Some end up dead. Some catch cases -- whether guilty or not.
I still listen to pac(Fuck All Y'all will always be played). Won't stop. I just separate the entertainer from the individual. We have to do that with sports and entertainment.
Like I said before, Pac had every opportunity to be like Will Smith but being 'street' was too important.
No excuses for a cat who starts to wild out AFTER turning 18.
what fuckin rapper thinks with such Majestic
leaderhip?
Tupac is talking to the God of Thugs on the west coast
about building up the community with a nice little starter plan...
He was murdered by the govt just like Malik El Shabazz was,
when they want to implement fear, they will kill a leader violently..
when they dont want to raise eyebrows, it used to be plane crashs...
but now its medical and high tech hits...
bet you didnt even know they could blow up your cell phone, as you are talking on it..
it aint conspiracy that shit is history at this point..
ask mossad.
We as a force need to carry out that plan!!
and we dont need coward ass rappers like pdiddy
and dr dre to do it...
leaderhip?
Tupac is talking to the God of Thugs on the west coast
about building up the community with a nice little starter plan...
He was murdered by the govt just like Malik El Shabazz was,
when they want to implement fear, they will kill a leader violently..
when they dont want to raise eyebrows, it used to be plane crashs...
but now its medical and high tech hits...
bet you didnt even know they could blow up your cell phone, as you are talking on it..
it aint conspiracy that shit is history at this point..
ask mossad.
We as a force need to carry out that plan!!
and we dont need coward ass rappers like pdiddy
and dr dre to do it...
Fuck outta here, Pac made it known that he came from Black Panther lineage. We know how the govt felt about BP, I'm just going to leave it at that
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Didn't listen tho
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