Michelle Alexander checking Black Clinton supporters

Ive been telling folks this on my FB page for years now. I always have some pro Hillary persom coming on my page with that BS and I remind them of Dirty Bill's legislation. A few folks are woke but most think because she's a Dem and a white woman that she'd be sympathetic to us. She wont. We arent paying her enough.
 
The problem is that Bernie Sanders ain't no better. Bernie's whole campaign has been to white millennials and he hasn't done shit to even try to talk to Black voters. Cornel West and Killer Mike.....really????
Man.. WTF are you talking about... Bernie was marching with US for voting and equal rights while at the same time Hillary was interning with RepubliKKKlan electorates who wanted to deny us those things that Sanders was marching for...
 
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a36476/bill-clinton-apologizes-sentencing-laws/

Michelle needs to point this out so other politicians aren't afraid to come out like this without hurting their political career. These kind of statements greatly help her cause.

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Man.. WTF are you talking about... Bernie was marching with US for voting and equal rights while at the same time Hillary was interning with RepubliKKKlan electorates who wanted to deny us those things that Sanders was marching for...


My issue with Sanders fans is that they really can't point out to anything other than marching. Sorry but when you're an elected official you marching doesn't mean shit. You making speaches on the floor of Congress also doesn't mean shit. You VOTING for something means shit to me. Bearnie Sanders can talk all he wants because he represents a 91% white super liberal state. He never has to worry about being challenged so its real easy to give lip service.

My issue is that Sanders has NEVER really addressed the institutional racism that Black people have to deal with. Saying that its about economics and that economic policies will help everyone including Black people seem to forget that history says differently. When Social Security was created....Black people were cut out from it. When the GI Bill was created....Black people were cut out of any benefits. When FHA loans were there....guess who were redlined out of using them?

Remember...matching don't mean shit. It was the in thing at the time. Charleston Heston was at the Match on Washington but he was never really a friend of Black people:

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"As smoke from burning buildings smudged the skyline and the TV news showed vivid images of laughing looters smashing windows and carting off boomboxes and booze, I got a few phone calls from firmly anti-gun friends in clear conflict. 'Umm, Chuck, you have quite a few . . . ah, guns, don't you?'"
— On the L.A. riots of 1992, from his autobiography "In the Arena" (1995)
 
My issue with Sanders fans is that they really can't point out to anything other than marching. Sorry but when you're an elected official you marching doesn't mean shit. You making speaches on the floor of Congress also doesn't mean shit. You VOTING for something means shit to me. Bearnie Sanders can talk all he wants because he represents a 91% white super liberal state. He never has to worry about being challenged so its real easy to give lip service.

My issue is that Sanders has NEVER really addressed the institutional racism that Black people have to deal with. Saying that its about economics and that economic policies will help everyone including Black people seem to forget that history says differently. When Social Security was created....Black people were cut out from it. When the GI Bill was created....Black people were cut out of any benefits. When FHA loans were there....guess who were redlined out of using them?

Remember...matching don't mean shit. It was the in thing at the time. Charleston Heston was at the Match on Washington but he was never really a friend of Black people:

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"As smoke from burning buildings smudged the skyline and the TV news showed vivid images of laughing looters smashing windows and carting off boomboxes and booze, I got a few phone calls from firmly anti-gun friends in clear conflict. 'Umm, Chuck, you have quite a few . . . ah, guns, don't you?'"
— On the L.A. riots of 1992, from his autobiography "In the Arena" (1995)
DUDE YOU SOUND LIKE A FOOL RIGHT NOW.
 
I just wonder if Bernie has as good a chance as her in a general election. Right now he's sort of a liberal Ron Paul as far as the enthusiasm thing goes... So it will be interesting to see what he does in primaries. Until recently I was thinking that trump fans might not come out in droves to actually vote, but now they seem almost cult-like so I think they will.
 
The problem is that Bernie Sanders ain't no better. Bernie's whole campaign has been to white millennials and he hasn't done shit to even try to talk to Black voters. Cornel West and Killer Mike.....really????

This post isn't true. I take it you have read anything on his website ?

Seems like his coverage is slanted with only things not agreeable being spread...That is more of the mainstream party machine trying to help Clinton
 
This post isn't true. I take it you have read anything on his website ?

Seems like his coverage is slanted with only things not agreeable being spread...That is more of the mainstream party machine trying to help Clinton
Bernie Sanders was supposed to be a non factor.The Dem national party didn't even see him as a viable threat.They throwing everything in the house including the kitchen sink at him.

Won't be long before Hillary starts crying to feminist groups about men denying women the right to lead.
 
Lot of Bernie stans in here that aren't willing to take a critical look at his record and WHAT he's been saying. Bernie is a career politician and knows the importance of the Black vote. yet look at his rallies, listen to what he was saying...or really not saying. I'm not on here telling you to vote for Hillary but don't get caught up in the bullshit. I have a problem with a politician that doesn't acknowledge the Black vote until the Black Lives Matter movement got in his face. He wasn't giving a damn until that happened.
 
Bernie Sanders was supposed to be a non factor.The Dem national party didn't even see him as a viable threat.They throwing everything in the house including the kitchen sink at him.

Won't be long before Hillary starts crying to feminist groups about men denying women the right to lead.

She already did....Some FBGT group and I think planned parenthood endorsed her and when Sanders was asked about it his answer was that although he supports them and his record proves it he never expected to get any establishment endorsements.

They all started with the they aren't establishment and they are offended and sad he would call them that yadda yadda.. This was after Clinton started with the they are dedicated to fight this and that and they fight against the establishment shit

of course he was saying they are part of the democratic establishment but they turned it into something else

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This article explains pretty much the whole black incarceration cycle. It's long but I guarantee you will be glad you read it. It's by Ta-Nehisi Coates.

Speaking of Mr Coates. I find it interesting ever since he questioned Sanders people have been attacking him. Anyway read what he has to say and make your own decisions. Just make sure your decisions are INFORMED ones:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/bernie-sanders-reparations/424602/

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/bernie-sanders-liberal-imagination/425022/
 
Learned recently of just how bad clinton was for us. She damn sure aint lyin....
 
Bernie really aint on specific Black socio problems, but he is white..come on now. Some shit we gotta fix. If we dont demand it from Obama, we might as well forget it from a democratic socialist. The major difference is his platform , albeit TALKING at this point, is backed by years of actual votes that would help the actual economic and academic development of Black families that have any drive left who can still fight. He has been at the forefront of dealing with adjudication inequalities and protecting people from overt police violence. Clinton is a war hawk,, pro stop and frisk, pro patritot act- pro surveillance, is a white feminist (not for all women), and is more pro wall street/banking than Obama. Whatever she does fix, will start with white females. And ain't enough trickle down for us At least with Sanders our kids, out uneducated adults, our working class would have some semblance of a fighting equal shot to prosper.
 
Martin O'Malley, Hillary or Bernie?

Dark Horse Bloomberg Lmaooo

Vs Trump or Cruz..

A whole lot of clowns running for office..

Sorry Hillary is a piece of shit, the bitch and her husband showed their hands during that South Carolina Primary against Pres O..
 


Bernie really aint on specific Black socio problems, but he is white..come on now. Some shit we gotta fix. If we dont demand it from Obama, we might as well forget it from a democratic socialist. The major difference is his platform , albeit TALKING at this point, is backed by years of actual votes that would help the actual economic and academic development of Black families that have any drive left who can still fight. He has been at the forefront of dealing with adjudication inequalities and protecting people from overt police violence. Clinton is a war hawk,, pro stop and frisk, pro patritot act- pro surveillance, is a white feminist (not for all women), and is more pro wall street/banking than Obama. Whatever she does fix, will start with white females. And ain't enough trickle down for us At least with Sanders our kids, out uneducated adults, our working class would have some semblance of a fighting equal shot to prosper.





I thought Sanders was bad for black people. These women changed my mind.

The candidate's economic plan is more important than I realized.

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wrote about howSanders had bungled his outreach to the black base. Though he spent a lot of time talking about economic inequality, his message seemed aimed at the thousands of white liberals who attended his rallies. A month later, I accusedhis white online supporters of condescending to black people who weren’t sold on his civil rights record.

I’ve heard these concerns echoed throughout the black community. Just a few days ago, Fordham University political scientist Christina Greer said that, “in the rush to make it all about class, you turn on your blinders to certain things that quite frankly aren’t about class … [Sanders is] missing a very large piece of the puzzle, and what makes some black voters nervous, there seems to be a huge gap in his understanding about race.”

[Black lives like my father’s should matter. That’s why I’m endorsing Bernie Sanders for President.]

But now, I’m beginning to rethink my position. That’s thanks, largely, to Sanders’s black women supporters. Over the last week, I’ve spoken with people like Ohio state Sen. Nina Turner, Trayvon Martin family lawyer Natalie Jackson and several black female Sanders staffers, like Tezlyn Figaro. No one shaped my thinking more than Erica Garner. She’s the daughter of Eric Garner, an unarmed African American who died after being put in a choke hold by an NYPD officer in 2014.

During our conversation, she argued that Sanders’s push for economic equality is just as important for black people as fighting abusive policing. Listening to Garner explain how she feels Sanders will help ease her financial hardships struck a chord. Women make, on average, just 79 cents for every dollar a man makes. Black women earn just 60 cents on the dollar; Latinas make 55 cents on the dollar. For Garner, it doesn’t matter how many cops are thrown behind bars for killing black people if she can’t afford to pay her rent or afford child care for her 6-year-old daughter Alyssa.

Similarly, black people have always experienced higher rates of unemployment than whites and struggle more to find jobs after college than their white peers. Black children are nearly four times as likely as white children to live in poverty.

Of course, I worry that I’ll suffer the same fate as Garner’s father whenever I walk the streets of New York. But I’m also concerned about finding a job and creating wealth for myself and my future family. I was fortunate to attend college for free, but most of my friends are strapped with tens of thousands of dollars of debt. Black students borrow far more to earn a college degree than white students, even at public institutions. That is why Sanders’s call for free tuition at public universities around the country appeals to me as a black voter. And I actually would like to vote for a president whose campaign fundraising isn’t predicated on rubbing elbows with Wall Street, the same structure that lead to predatory lending that has bankrupted millions of Americans. A 2010 study found that black people were disproportionately targeted during the housing crisis.

Hearing these arguments made by Garner and other African Americans is very different than listening to a bunch of white liberals explain why Sanders is good for black people. And there’s a lot of that. Left-wing writer Matt Bruenig wrote a condescending post in July titled “Haha what?” simplifying the grievances protester Tia Oso had with Sanders during her disruption of his speech at Netroots Nation. David Atkins, a political strategist who present during the interruption, tweeted this: “The biggest lesson learned: if you want your issue noticed, don’t use hashtags. Just bring a big crowd and yell.”

My Twitter mentions also were filled with hundreds of tweets from white progressives who lectured me on Sanders’s civil rights record when I questioned the Vermont senator’s commitment to black voters. Many of my black friends complain that this is still going on in their mentions as well. Given that black people use Twitter to push for social change, I was disappointed that his digital staff didn’t notice this early on and challenge these white progressives’ rudeness.

But the Sanders campaign assured me that they finally understand this problem, and are looking at how they can communicate better to black people about Sanders without sounding condescending. As a black person, I needed to hear this.

Of course, some believe that Sanders’s policies are unrealistic. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi said as much Wednesday. Jamil Smith echoed that concern more broadly in The New Republic, writing that Hillary Clinton has made clear “she has the best chance to get things done as president — a case that Sanders has not yet made effectively.”

I understand these concerns. But they are a typical response to someone who is aiming for revolutionary change, something Clinton isn’t calling for and black people need. I think that is why so many people feel more comfortable with Clinton; she won’t rock the boat too much. That reminds me of the same arguments made against voting for Obama. Yet we elected him and the country hasn’t fallen apart. And many people don’t think it’s realistic to expect an end to police brutality against black people. So, why is marching in hope for better policing realistic, but believing in Sanders’ economic policies isn’t?

That’s why I feel black people should give Sanders a closer look.

This isn’t an endorsement — I’m a reporter covering the 2016 race, and I’m keeping an open mind. But after hearing black women like Garner explain the intersection of economic racism and police brutality, I’m willing to think of Sanders as an advocate for black people, someone I should cover seriously.

This doesn’t mean Sanders couldn’t do a better job of drawing these parallels himself. He still has a lot of work to do to earn the black vote, but let’s not pretend he hasn’t improved his message at all since Netroots Nation. He has.
 
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