"It was Jay-Z's presence that forced the NFL to do something it hadn't done in three years, give Colin Kaepernick a shot. So at that level, we've got to say Jay won."
CHUCK TODD: Does Jay-Z at all feel like the NFL's using him with this Kaepernick stuff or not? There's been a lot of accusations out there, that he's being used --
MICHAEL ERIC DYSON: Yeah.
CHUCK TODD: -- by the NFL on this. Do you find that?
MICHAEL ERIC DYSON: Of course not. Here's the thing. You're talking about racism and a racial lens. Why is it that we think, when a black guy sits at the table with a white guy, the white guy is using you, as opposed to, guess this, it was Jay-Z's presence that forced the NFL to do something it hadn't done in three years, give Colin Kaepernick a shot. So at that level, we've got to say Jay won.
You must be fooling yourself, if Jay-Z had anything with the workout.