Message to LeBron Haters: Was Jordan REALLY THAT much better than LeBron?

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Jordan lovers it's ok if you think Jordan is the greatest but don't post ignorant comment just to diss Lebron and make Jordan more superior. Jordan was 1-9 in the playoffs w/o Pippen, never won a series. He was a punching bag of Thomas and Bird, he won when Thomas, Bird and Magic were old and having injuries. East is weak? Bulls made the playoffs in 1988 with a record of 30-52, in 1993 there are 3 sub .500 teams in the east but nobody mentions it. Magic was 5-4 in the finals when he retired but others still considered him as the greatest ever. It's always double standards when it comes to Lebron, they will nitpick on James just to make other players looked superior. When Jordan retired in 1993 the bulls still won 55 games just 2 wins shy with of their record with Jordan. They were 1 basket away from the Eastern conference finals. Meanwhile when Lebron left the Cavs they posted a record of 19-63 after having the best record in the league in 2009 and 2010. The heat went to 4 straight finals, won in 2012 and 2013 with Wade and Bosh averaging 16 nd 13 pts, Lebron carried the heat!! Don't come up with Ray Allen saved LBJ shit, Bron scored in the 4th including the 3 he made before Allen's 3 to tie the game. They played game 7 where Allem, Bosh, Miller had ZERO while LBJ had 37. He won with Erick Spoelstra as the coach, lol,. He returned to the cavs and after not making the playoffs the last 4 years they made the finals and just 2 wins away from the title with Lebron playing with scrubs and unwanted players from other teams, the numbers Lebron put up were still not enough because when he goes to the bench Shump, Smith, Mozgov, Delly, Jones were 0-21 on the field. He averaged 35-8-8, if Irving and Love wasn't injured we all know who would've been champs! After 4 straight finals the heat didn't make the playoffs w/o LBJ. Common denominator? Lebron's greatness!! No one could've brought that 2007 and 2015 cavs to the finals, the way he makes his teammates much better than they actually were is incomparable. He went to the finals with Mike Brown and David Batt coaching the cavs, Lebron even made Mike Brown coach of the year! smh,. I know Lebron has his flaws too, I'm not like some delusional fans that think he's some kind of God. But if you're a fan of basketball you will appreciate Lebron so much, the man plays the right way. Don't give the bullshit about leaving because he already wasted 7 years in Cleveland and the best player they can give him was Mo Williams? While on the other hand Kobe has Gasol, Bynum, Odom(tallest front court during that time), Ariza/Artest, Fisher and being coaches by Phil Jackson. Kobe as the man w/o Shaq or Gasol (2005-2007) didn't make the playoffs in 2005 and 1st round exits in 2006 and 2007. Lebron won as the carrier, he always does the heavy lifting since high school. Check out some facts and don't be blinded by your hate towards one of the greatest to ever play this game. He affects the game in so many different ways, he still has an imapact even when his shots are not fallen, by his play making and leadership. These are facts not just opinion from delusional Lebron haters.
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Some really valid points made here... I personally stand corrected on a lot of things... Not too prideful to admit it... :smh:

@KingTaharqa - Respect :cheers:
 
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They won't give LeBron the MVP this year, but without him the Cavs are nothing. He is passing all time great players like its nothing, and yet so many people still hate him. He is the only player in league history that has a chance to become the only player in NBA HISTORY with atleast 30000+ points, 10000+ rebounds and 10000+ assists.

If LeBron wasn't this great, no one would hate him, they hate LeBron because he's a threat to the legacy of other all time greats. If he was a bench player, no one would hate him.

Appreciate him while you can!
 
Jordan was much better and I'm sure Lebron would agree to that. Jordan left the sport and came back and still dominated. That's something Lebron can't say. Jordan was 6-0 in the finals. Something Lebron can't say.

All due respect, and I STILL view Jordan as the GOAT, he played more seasons than those 6 though. You can't look at just those as a comparison...
 
Jordan was much better and I'm sure Lebron would agree to that. Jordan left the sport and came back and still dominated. That's something Lebron can't say. Jordan was 6-0 in the finals. Something Lebron can't say.
First I am a MJ/UNC fan, hes the greatest currently but he left and came back in the height of his prime:dunno:. More importantly the point of the op is that Jordan went 6-0 because he had the 2nd best player in the league right beside him every final along with some of the leagues best role players. On the flip Lebron had the benefit of a healthy yet subprime Wade one season really and the rest was pretty much all him and a gang of castoffs and niggas who get ghost come April. Add in the fact that for all the pussy league rule changes, they allow players to be as physical as they want with Lebron. Hes accused of being a whiner, if you're watching objectively hes usually reacting to players mauling and clotheslining him regularly with no calls. You recall that happening to Jordan or any other huge league star for that matter? It might be closer than we think
 
First I am a MJ/UNC fan, hes the greatest currently but he left and came back in the height of his prime:dunno:. More importantly the point of the op is that Jordan went 6-0 because he had the 2nd best player in the league right beside him every final along with some of the leagues best role players. On the flip Lebron had the benefit of a healthy yet subprime Wade one season really and the rest was pretty much all him and a gang of castoffs and niggas who get ghost come April. Add in the fact that for all the pussy league rule changes, they allow players to be as physical as they want with Lebron. Hes accused of being a whiner, if you're watching objectively hes usually reacting to players mauling and clotheslining him regularly with no calls. You recall that happening to Jordan or any other huge league star for that matter? It might be closer than we think
That's not Jordan fault that LeBron couldn't live up to his promise of winning 7 rings with Wade and company. Jordan had Pippen but he never promised he would win 7 rings with Pippen in company.
 
Lebron couldn't back up his mouth, he said him and the big three in Miami would bring 7 rings to Miami and they got 2.

He didn't say they will win 7.
He said they were put together to win not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, etc. just like every other team is put together to win not 1, not 2, etc. he backed that up just by winning 2.
But Lebron haters dont remember what he said, just what they wanted to hear.
Not calling you a hater though.​
 
He didn't say they will win 7.
He said they were put together to win not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, etc. just like every other team is put together to win not 1, not 2, etc. he backed that up just by winning 2.
But Lebron haters dont remember what he said, just what they wanted to hear.
Not calling you a hater though.​

Regardless of what he said, that doesn't discredit what he's done... Still waiting for someone to explain to me how LeBron has 55 non Miami Heat playoff wins, Two non Miami Heat finals appearances, and Jordan has ONE non Pippen win... ONE? :popcorn:
 
Regardless of what he said, that doesn't discredit what he's done... Still waiting for someone to explain to me how LeBron has 55 non Miami Heat playoff wins, Two non Miami Heat finals appearances, and Jordan has ONE non Pippen win... ONE? :popcorn:
Shit, I'm with you!
To me, LeBron plays just like, but better than the real GOAT... Magic Johnson​
 
Shit, I'm with you!
To me, LeBron plays just like, but better than the real GOAT... Magic Johnson​

Not really buying Magic in that role either... Not going to get into it, but Magie ALWAYS played on stacked squads so that skews my perspective of his career a bit...

Fam! Change your avatar Bruh.. Shit is disturbing as fuck! :lol:
 
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Swap Lebron and Mike and the winning a championship

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All that BULLSHIT OPINION ASIDE... I'm STILL Waiting for someone to explain to me the big ass 55-1 playoff win disparity between LeBron and Air though?!?!?! Not some bullshit opinion, but those figures, are fucking FACTS!!!

Care to take a shot at explaining that shit Bruh? :popcorn:
 
Jordan lovers it's ok if you think Jordan is the greatest but don't post ignorant comment just to diss Lebron and make Jordan more superior. Jordan was 1-9 in the playoffs w/o Pippen, never won a series. He was a punching bag of Thomas and Bird, he won when Thomas, Bird and Magic were old and having injuries. East is weak? Bulls made the playoffs in 1988 with a record of 30-52, in 1993 there are 3 sub .500 teams in the east but nobody mentions it. Magic was 5-4 in the finals when he retired but others still considered him as the greatest ever. It's always double standards when it comes to Lebron, they will nitpick on James just to make other players looked superior. When Jordan retired in 1993 the bulls still won 55 games just 2 wins shy with of their record with Jordan. They were 1 basket away from the Eastern conference finals. Meanwhile when Lebron left the Cavs they posted a record of 19-63 after having the best record in the league in 2009 and 2010. The heat went to 4 straight finals, won in 2012 and 2013 with Wade and Bosh averaging 16 nd 13 pts, Lebron carried the heat!! Don't come up with Ray Allen saved LBJ shit, Bron scored in the 4th including the 3 he made before Allen's 3 to tie the game. They played game 7 where Allem, Bosh, Miller had ZERO while LBJ had 37. He won with Erick Spoelstra as the coach, lol,. He returned to the cavs and after not making the playoffs the last 4 years they made the finals and just 2 wins away from the title with Lebron playing with scrubs and unwanted players from other teams, the numbers Lebron put up were still not enough because when he goes to the bench Shump, Smith, Mozgov, Delly, Jones were 0-21 on the field. He averaged 35-8-8, if Irving and Love wasn't injured we all know who would've been champs! After 4 straight finals the heat didn't make the playoffs w/o LBJ. Common denominator? Lebron's greatness!! No one could've brought that 2007 and 2015 cavs to the finals, the way he makes his teammates much better than they actually were is incomparable. He went to the finals with Mike Brown and David Batt coaching the cavs, Lebron even made Mike Brown coach of the year! smh,. I know Lebron has his flaws too, I'm not like some delusional fans that think he's some kind of God. But if you're a fan of basketball you will appreciate Lebron so much, the man plays the right way. Don't give the bullshit about leaving because he already wasted 7 years in Cleveland and the best player they can give him was Mo Williams? While on the other hand Kobe has Gasol, Bynum, Odom(tallest front court during that time), Ariza/Artest, Fisher and being coaches by Phil Jackson. Kobe as the man w/o Shaq or Gasol (2005-2007) didn't make the playoffs in 2005 and 1st round exits in 2006 and 2007. Lebron won as the carrier, he always does the heavy lifting since high school. Check out some facts and don't be blinded by your hate towards one of the greatest to ever play this game. He affects the game in so many different ways, he still has an imapact even when his shots are not fallen, by his play making and leadership. These are facts not just opinion from delusional Lebron haters.
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Some really valid points made here... I personally stand corrected on a lot of things... Not too prideful to admit it... :smh:

@KingTaharqa - Respect :cheers:
All of this is irrelevant. Jordan and the Bulls had one of the most dominate runs in the last 25 years. If MJ does not retire the Bulls probably win 8 in a row. MJ and the Bulls did a 3 peat twice.

This piece keeps making excuses for Lebron
 
All of this is irrelevant. Jordan and the Bulls had one of the most dominate runs in the last 25 years. If MJ does not retire the Bulls probably win 8 in a row. MJ and the Bulls did a 3 peat twice.

This piece keeps making excuses for Lebron

55-1.... Explain please?
2 Finals / No playoff series wins... Explain Please?

These are FACTUAL statistics, your IF doesn't count. MJ played 13 years, not 6... :popcorn:
 
MJ was dominate his entire career. At one point he was averaging over 37 pt a game. Bruh that is unreal

1 Non-Pippen Playoff win for his CAREER?!?!?!
No playoff series wins without PIPPEN for his CAREER?!?!?
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55 playoff wins without D Wade and Bosh?!?!?!
2 Finals apperances without D Wade and Bosh?!?!?!

and the former equates to more dominance than the latter?

Explain that line of reasoning Bruh, Please? :popcorn:
 
55-1.... Explain please?
2 Finals / No playoff series wins... Explain Please?

These are FACTUAL statistics, your IF doesn't count. MJ played 13 years, not 6... :popcorn:
Dumb argument. If you are saying that Lebron played 55 more playoff games and Jordan won more titles it means that Jordan won when it mattered and was more efficient. Hard to match 6 titles in 8 years.
 
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