Mcdonalds Incident.... Self defense???

[Fuzzy_McNut]

Can't see why that concept is so hard to grasp for some people, but whatever.

All it takes is one pocket knife and your eye is gone forever.

The guy told the women to stay down...didn't hit them again until they tried to get back up. That's what they do as correctional officers.

That is all self defense. Put your hands where i can see them dont fucking move.

 

[Fuzzy_McNut]

Shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass house.

She went and got a supersized McAssWhoopin with a side order of Pain....

THAT is what a counterfeit $50 bill will buy you at McDonald's.

 

[34real]

From the comments made in this thread just shows you that the majority have no self-control,along with a Napoleon Bonaparte complex:crush em.But what if your on the opposite end?right.

 

[Rossini]

Can we all just agree that Legacy infinity is just an idiot and wrong? I've shown this video to All of my employees and women and men agree, the aggressors who were wrong were the dykes in the video.

You are all arguing with someone who loves to just argue. She's not even a good debater because not only is she intellectually dishonest it's proven time and time again that's she's mentally off. On top of that all of her stories are obvious lies. She's the new Halo/Blunt of the board and you are all falling into it.

 

[Fuzzy_McNut]

From the comments made in this thread just shows you that the majority have no self-control,along with a Napoleon Bonaparte complex:crush em.But what if your on the opposite end?right.

He might have just was going to get the lead pipe to chase them out the store....but they chased after him.

With intent.

 

[LoneStar29]

You wouldn't know a fact if it proposed to you. And Bitchboys . . . that's all you got. I'll be all of that. But you're a mindless toy robot.

Wait . . . let's play that record again.


Hi, I'm 'Legacy Dike Bitch', and this is my pet bitch Lone!! We don't like responsibility, but we do like using our tongues instead of our brains!!

Hey, wanna here our favorite male bashing song?

"Fag", "BitchBoy", "child", "Loser, "Punk" . . . "Grow UP, be a real man". YAY

"Fag", "BitchBoy", "child", "Loser, "Punk" . . . "Grow UP, be a real man". YAY

"Fag", "BitchBoy", "child", "Loser, "Punk" . . . "Grow UP, be a real man". YAY

JG

Are you 8 years old? seriously

You font like your balls havent dropped yet

 

[Rossini]

@ all" this fear for his life" bullshit.....have you dudes never been in a fucking fist fight scary spice ass niggas

Ashley "A.J." Jewell, who appeared on The Real Housewives of Atlanta as the fiance of Kandi Burruss, has been killed in a bar fight. Police say he got into a beef in the parking lot of The Body Tap Club in Atlanta, when he took "a severe blow to the head." Though details of the incident are still sketchy, detectives do have a person of interest in the case.

Jewell appeared on the TV show as the love interest of Burruss, the newest cast member and former member of the R&B group Xscape. The Grammy-winning producer recently recently told Essence magazine that she and Jewell were on "hiatus..."
http://www.truecrimereport.com/2009/10/the_real_housewives_of_atlanta.php

 

[John_Gault]

Are you 8 years old? seriously

You font like your balls havent dropped yet

You smell like you haven't douched yet.

Aye, that silent whistle is your master commanding your return . . . Come back when you get your rabies shots . . . or when you learn some new tricks.


JG

 

[ZuluSam]

Any lawyer worth his salt will clearly be able to show, from the video, that the defendant did use self control. He stopped when they were down. You can see the head of the one on our right rise slightly above the counter and he whacked her again. It is clear that his additional whacks were a response to the assailants attempts to get up, and it is reasonable to believe they were getting up to continue their aggression.

At NO time did you hear the assailants say anything suggesting they had abandoned their ill intent. Did anyone hear them say anything like, 'ok, please stop....' or 'okay okay it's over' or ANYTHING INDICATING THEY HAD ABANDONED THEIR AGGRESSION.

WHAT TYPE OF PERSON, MAN OR WOMAN, JUMPS A COUNTER AND GOES AFTER THE CASHIER....????? WHAT TYPE OF PERSON IS THAT??????

ONE WHO MEANS TO DO BODILY HARM. PERIOD.

Did she jump the counter to chit chat??? Hell no! She jumped the counter to get close enough to the working man to do him bodily harm.

You guys have no idea the type of people who appear for jury duty and when they think of themselves, friends or children being in McDonalds and fools jumping the counter to stalk down an employee, their minds will not be able to wrap around that concept.

Jumping the counter? Thelma and Louise meant business and working man had a right to neutralize their threats......

 

[Fuzzy_McNut]

a mouse can activate someone's fight or flight.....a clown can activate someone's fight or flight.....phobias.



Some people have a fear intruders....there is a phobia for that ya know. There are phobias for being tickled by feather that could have been triggered by some incident at child hood.

 

[Fuzzy_McNut]

Any lawyer worth his salt will clearly be able to show, from the video, that the defendant did use self control. He stopped when they were down. You can see the head of the one on our right rise slightly above the counter and he whacked her again. It is clear that his additional whacks were a response to the assailants attempts to get up, and it is reasonable to believe they were getting up to continue their aggression.

At NO time did you hear the assailants say anything suggesting they had abandoned their ill intent. Did anyone hear them say anything like, 'ok, please stop....' or 'okay okay it's over' or ANYTHING INDICATING THEY HAD ABANDONED THEIR AGGRESSION.

WHAT TYPE OF PERSON, MAN OR WOMAN, JUMPS A COUNTER AND GOES AFTER THE CASHIER....????? WHAT TYPE OF PERSON IS THAT??????

ONE WHO MEANS TO DO BODILY HARM. PERIOD.

Did she jump the counter to chit chat??? Hell no! She jumped the counter to get close enough to the working man to do him bodily harm.

You guys have no idea the type of people who appear for jury duty and when they think of themselves, friends or children being in McDonalds and fools jumping the counter to stalk down an employee, their minds will not be able to wrap around that concept.

Jumping the counter? Thelma and Louise meant business and working man had a right to neutralize their threats......

yup and a lawyer looking to be on the come up will probably take the case pro bo no. Just for it to be his land mark high profiled case.

 

[Rossini]

Any lawyer worth his salt will clearly be able to show, from the video, that the defendant did use self control. He stopped when they were down. You can see the head of the one on our right rise slightly above the counter and he whacked her again. It is clear that his additional whacks were a response to the assailants attempts to get up, and it is reasonable to believe they were getting up to continue their aggression.

At NO time did you hear the assailants say anything suggesting they had abandoned their ill intent. Did anyone hear them say anything like, 'ok, please stop....' or 'okay okay it's over' or ANYTHING INDICATING THEY HAD ABANDONED THEIR AGGRESSION.

WHAT TYPE OF PERSON, MAN OR WOMAN, JUMPS A COUNTER AND GOES AFTER THE CASHIER....????? WHAT TYPE OF PERSON IS THAT??????

ONE WHO MEANS TO DO BODILY HARM. PERIOD.

Did she jump the counter to chit chat??? Hell no! She jumped the counter to get close enough to the working man to do him bodily harm.

You guys have no idea the type of people who appear for jury duty and when they think of themselves, friends or children being in McDonalds and fools jumping the counter to stalk down an employee, their minds will not be able to wrap around that concept.

Jumping the counter? Thelma and Louise meant business and working man had a right to neutralize their threats......

c/s I done worked at mcd's b4, 1st thing i'd think if somebody jump that counter "this mufucka bout to kill me "

 

[code_pirahna]

Here s the essence of it all...

Answer this question...what were those two women jumping over the counter to go do????"

(hint: it wasn t to go talk to him.)

 

[Fuzzy_McNut]

What ole dude did is a natural response. It's natural...be mad if you want but it's natural...not just a natural animal response but a natural human response.

 

[LoneStar29]

Two Black Women Get The Ass Beating They Deserve!
October 15, 2011

Dear Friends:

I just love this video.

I am a firm believer in Justice.

Some people are able to get their Justice on the spot, others like myself have to wait for others to do it for them at a later date (oh well that's life).

On Thursday, Rayon McIntosh, a cashier at McDonald's is video taped on a cell phone using a metal rod to beat two Black female customers (of which one of them looks like a man) who after slapping him in the face jumped the counter of his West 3rd Street restaurant to try to continue their attack on him but instead got their asses kicked.

The cashier, Rayon McIntosh who police said had previously served a decade for manslaughter, beat the women so badly that one suffered a fractured skull and broken arm, which was captured on a customer's cell phone and then posted to YouTube.

Please view video on YouTube at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tFvPKHABgk

I plan to work with others to help raise funds to establish a legal defense fund for Rayon McIntosh.

As the father of girls, I can tell you that if these were my daughters they would have got just what they deserved.

I was very happy to see those woman get the beat down they deserved.

I would have done the same thing if not worst!

Please contact me if you would like to join the effort to help Rayon McIntosh.

Sincerely,
Thomas Lopez-Pierre

The bolded is ALL it boils down to

/thread

 

[charlie dark]

What ole dude did is a natural response. It's natural...be mad if you want but it's natural...not just a natural animal response but a natural human response.

A natural response to punish a runaway slave so that the other slaves wouldn't try to runaway either!!.....

 

[Count23]

From the comments made in this thread just shows you that the majority have no self-control,along with a Napoleon Bonaparte complex:crush em.But what if your on the opposite end?right.

comments like these seriously make me question what reality some of yall are on. no self control = engaging in a back and forth with the argumentative customers. no self control = jumping over the counter and engaging with the customers in a physical fight after getting slapped instead of retreating to the back area. While the issue of whether or not he hit them too much is subjective, it is intellectually dishonest to label the man as having absolutely no self control if you watched the video.

 

[John_Gault]

Bottom line . . . Keep your hands to YOUR SELVES.


Such a silly lesson to STILL be learning in the 21st century.


JG

 

[Mr MajestiK]

The bolded is ALL it boils down to

/thread

I'd like to think there's a lot more to it than that but at the end of the day, people are going to believe whatever they want to.

 

[KW13537]

A natural response to punish a runaway slave so that the other slaves wouldn't try to runaway either!!.....

What in the world does that have to do with anything?!

 

[KW13537]

comments like these seriously make me question what reality some of yall are on. no self control = engaging in a back and forth with the argumentative customers. no self control = jumping over the counter and engaging with the customers in a physical fight after getting slapped instead of retreating to the back area. While the issue of whether or not he hit them too much is subjective, it is intellectually dishonest to label the man as having absolutely no self control if you watched the video.

 

[Fuzzy_McNut]

a mouse can activate someone's fight or flight.....a clown can activate someone's fight or flight.....phobias.



Some people have a fear intruders....there is a phobia for that ya know. There are phobias for being tickled by feather that could have been triggered by some incident at child hood.

He might have just was going to get the lead pipe to chase them out the store....but they chased after him.

With intent.

Shouldn't throw stones if you live in a glass house.

She went and got a supersized McAssWhoopin with a side order of Pain....

THAT is what a counterfeit $50 bill will buy you at McDonald's.

All it takes is one pocket knife and your eye is gone forever.

The guy told the women to stay down...didn't hit them again until they tried to get back up. That's what they do as correctional officers.

That is all self defense. Put your hands where i can see them dont fucking move.

A natural response to punish a runaway slave so that the other slaves wouldn't try to runaway either!!.....

there is no "beat slave or run him away" nerve, or gene.

That's unatural.

There is fight or flight. That is natural in all

 

[Drayonis]

 

[Count23]

The bolded is ALL it boils down to

/thread

can't/won't speak for anyone else but i don't give a shit what race/gender they were, my opinion wouldn't change based solely on those superficial factors.

 

[Fuzzy_McNut]

Definition:
The fight or flight response refers to a specific biochemical reaction that both humans and animals experience during intense stress or fear. The sympathetic nervous system releases hormones that cause changes to occur throughout the body. These changes include, but are not limited to:

•Increased heart and breathing rate
•Suppression of the digestive system
•Release of epinephrine
•Inhibition of pain
The fight or flight response prepares the body for fast-paced action. Whether you choose to flee or fight, your body will need all of its resources. This is believed to be an evolutionary development and can only be suppressed through intense work and training.

If you have a phobia, the fight or flight response may be activated whenever you are confronted with the object of your fear. This is why you may shake, cry, become hostile or even run from the situation.

A phobia can have a long-term effect on your physical health. Frequent or chronic activation of the fight or flight response, particularly in situations in which neither outcome is practical, can lead to digestive problems, increased risk of heart disease and the other known effects of chronic stress. With treatment, however, you can learn to overcome your fear.

http://phobias.about.com/od/glossary/g/fightorflight.htm

 

[Fuzzy_McNut]

You can argue that he should or shouldn't have feared for his life, but you cant argue if he actually did fear for his life.

If he was scared, right or wrong he was scared. MAybe he was maybe he wasn't.


There are some people that would be scared....if someone crazy unexpectantly jumps over a counter at me i know for a fact i'd be scared

 

[Count23]

http://phobias.about.com/od/glossary/g/fightorflight.htm

bruh why are you bothering? the man is obviously an uncontrollable monster who overreacted when the customer gave him a friendly lovetap and then attempted to further discuss the discrepancy with him in the employee section.

 

[John_Gault]

Yo, GOOD AUDIO/VID


The image DOESN'T help . . . but definitely worth the listen. The author should have used a different image because has nothing to do with the message. But yes, he make great points.

JG

 

[34real]

comments like these seriously make me question what reality some of yall are on. no self control = engaging in a back and forth with the argumentative customers. no self control = jumping over the counter and engaging with the customers in a physical fight after getting slapped instead of retreating to the back area. While the issue of whether or not he hit them too much is subjective, it is intellectually dishonest to label the man as having absolutely no self control if you watched the video.

when the threat is down for the count,theres no more harm that can come to you physically(they didn't have a weapon),anything after that is straight up criminal.

Im not gonna go back and forth,its pointless but remember that extra kick,punch,swing, the two extra bullets,whatever could have some of you overzealous,so-called thinkers behind bars,like this Mcdonalds employees.

 

[Count23]

when the threat is down for the count,theres no more harm that can come to you physically(they didn't have a weapon),anything after that is straight up criminal.

Im not gonna go back and forth,its pointless but remember that extra kick,punch,swing, the two extra bullets,whatever could have some of you overzealous,so-called thinkers behind bars,like this Mcdonalds employees.

You know this how?

 

[SKATTA]

Lesbians they were huh..


This explains why our resident butch is all verbally combative in this thread.

they think a strapon makes them a man. fuggin delusional.


carry on.

 

[BrownTurd]

Over 90% of you got it wrong. This is why niggas end up on The 1st 48 crying and shit. Just reading the thread you can tell who the dumb niggas are. They would be the ones trying to tell that weak as story about self defense and end up with 15 years. First off, you niggas need to stop being educated by the Lil wayne and Gucci Mane. But in all seriousness, brothas and sistas we have to know our rights.

No matter what happened, if you get into an altercation with someone and they are injured "You will get charged and go to jail" The reason is that police cant assume you used self defense.

Positives for dude
According to his state law he is not required to retreat if he is somewhere he is supposed to be such as home or the work place.

From the video he was not the aggressor before the first punch was thrown.

Negatives gray areas that may cost him
You can only use force for force. This means in you cant use objects. Unless you can prove your life was in danger. In his case he wont be able to prove that because no weapon was presented.

Once the threat has been eliminated you can continue to use force to subdue them until the police arrive...but if there is more then one party available to subdue the aggressor force cant be used anymore. Also if the threat has given up you have to stop immediately.

His issue is that he became the aggressor. Even in stressful situations you cant loose your train of thought. Doing so can cost you like it may cost this brotha.

 

[Count23]

Over 90% of you got it wrong. This is why niggas end up on The 1st 48 crying and shit. Just reading the thread you can tell who the dumb niggas are. They would be the ones trying to tell that weak as story about self defense and end up with 15 years. First off, you niggas need to stop being educated by the Lil wayne and Gucci Mane. But in all seriousness, brothas and sistas we have to know our rights.

No matter what happened, if you get into an altercation with someone and they are injured "You will get charged and go to jail" The reason is that police cant assume you used self defense.

Positives for dude
According to his state law he is not required to retreat if he is somewhere he is supposed to be such as home or the work place.

From the video he was not the aggressor before the first punch was thrown.

Negatives gray areas that may cost him
You can only use force for force. This means in you cant use objects. Unless you can prove your life was in danger. In his case he wont be able to prove that because no weapon was presented.

Once the threat has been eliminated you can continue to use force to subdue them until the police arrive...but if there is more then one party available to subdue the aggressor force cant be used anymore. Also if the threat has given up you have to stop immediately.

His issue is that he became the aggressor. Even in stressful situations you cant loose your train of thought. Doing so can cost you like it may cost this brotha.

If you are basing your claims solely on the video, there's no way of knowing whether or not they had a weapon. Also there were people around, but who there were trying to stop the aggressors? finally if the counter was blocking the view, it's hard to say whether or not they had given up or if they were trying to get back up to resume the attack.

 

[qseal00]

Some of these responses are crazy. Them chicks coulda maced dude, dunked him in the fryer, and been running out of Mickey D's before the cops arrived. You don't jump the counter AND CHASE nobody at a spot like that, whether it be man, woman, child, dog, or fucking oompa loompa.

 

[BrownTurd]

Some of these responses are crazy. Them chicks coulda maced dude, dunked him in the fryer, and been running out of Mickey D's before the cops arrived. You don't jump the counter AND CHASE nobody at a spot like that, whether it be man, woman, child, dog, or fucking oompa loompa.

What you feel is right and what is in that law book are to different things. If you dont want to spend 20 years in prison over some dumb shit you have to think about your oprions.