Mcdonalds Incident.... Self defense???

I refuse to acknowledge that he was scared of that woman. I refuse to acknowledge that there was any point in that entire altercation that he couldn't have controlled himself in.

He was in jail...

People that have been in war are told to be cautius of children. Why because there are children that know the quaran back and front and are taught to die....and are ready to die. That's their reality.

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In jail....i'm not sure what his reality is but he is apparently the wrong dude to jump on. Like i said it's just too bad he didn't have a sign on his forehead that said "ex con".

His reality is that he could be killed...i'm sure he has seen people pull out shanks and kill a person or heard about it. And it's reasonable to believe that a person in jail has developed a fear of someone rushing to attack them.

He apparently wasn't going to be come a victim of his reality. In your reality he was safe, in his reality may have been in danger.

(we are products of our enviorment and experiences)
 
What's wrong with being 43? I'm 42. Why do people think being called old hurts feelings?

Sent from my EVO Shift

Whats wrong with being a singler mother with one child??

Why is it ok for everyone to start throwing stereotypes and generalizations at me and my son???

Why is it ok for people to refer to a child as a bastard and fag and whatever other names we've been called over the years???

GTFOH with your old ass cape
 
Here is the thing about you LI. You dodge questions that requires your logic to be judged. But want to judge everyone elses logic and ask everyone elses logic.

And you dodge it under the "oh, people wont believe me so why state it anyways".

So what, there are people that dont believe a word you say period, but are you going to stop talking because some people might not believe you? Gene asked you a leading question.

It was not an attempt to corner you. But an attempt to understand your logic and see how consistent you are with it. If you are consistent i dont think anyone can argue with that. But no.

There are different types of questions. He didn't ask you a loaded question. If you dodged that i could understand perfectly.

He was questioning to get an idea of your logic. Not to point out one thing or another.

No he wasn't. I know what he was doing. He knows what he was doing. That's the benefit of observation. I have nothing against it. I just won't have it done to me when i'm paying attention. There's a way to ask question to get knowledge and understanding, and then there's a way to ask questions to set up an attack during debate. He showed me he didn't want to really understand where i was coming from because where i was coming from has been stated in my other posts in this thread.

And for the record. I don't believe i attack how other people view things. I just disagree with it. Using what you've written before? Like when you said you think everyone is a potential threat and you pretty much live in fear every day of your life. I don't know that. I think most people who've had traumatic circumstances fight that everyday. You wanted to embolden your point by the videos you were posting.

How you personally see this scenario is he was AFRAID. You're making your opinion about what he was doing based on how you would respond. I really don't try to do that. I'm seeing his body movements. I'm watching for the little things, the tells that people give off in aggressive situations. I'm looking at how the prosecs will be looking at it. Because that's kind of what my job was. That's how i was trying to keep my opinions too.

What they'd see. And how they'd argue it. And my own experience of how these cases usually go.
 
BTW I am really LOLing at that bitchboy Drayonis complaining about me to Ten to leave him alone lmaooooooo Nigga has the nerve to call my son out his name then cries like a little bitch when he gets scared

Fuckin faggot
 
No he wasn't. I know what he was doing. He knows what he was doing. That's the benefit of observation. I have nothing against it. I just won't have it done to me when i'm paying attention. There's a way to ask question to get knowledge and understanding, and then there's a way to ask questions to set up an attack during debate. He showed me he didn't want to really understand where i was coming from because where i was coming from has been stated in my other posts in this thread.

And for the record. I don't believe i attack how other people view things. I just disagree with it. Using what you've written before? Like when you said you think everyone is a potential threat and you pretty much live in fear every day of your life. I don't know that. I think most people who've had traumatic circumstances fight that everyday. You wanted to embolden your point by the videos you were posting.

How you personally see this scenario is he was AFRAID. I never said he was, i dont know, i said he may have been afraid. My knowledge about fight or flight, yes people have it. Some people can stare at another person and laugh while they hit them while others are in full attack mode.You're making your opinion about what he was doing based on how you would respond. I really don't try to do that. I'm seeing his body movements. I'm watching for the little things, the tells that people give off in aggressive situations. I'm looking at how the prosecs will be looking at it. Because that's kind of what my job was. That's how i was trying to keep my opinions too.

What they'd see. And how they'd argue it. And my own experience of how these cases usually go.

I have observations to. I've seen you to interact before. You guys have no issues or no bad blood.

I have no bad blood with him neither, but i have observed how he tries to clown my personal relgious beliefs. He doesn't insult me directly just christians. I have never seen him start or pick a arguement or stoop down to a level first so i have no reason to believe he'd do it with you, someone he seems to be cool with.

He had every oppurtunity to attack you if that was his intent. Everything he said, i was saying in my head "i bet he going to say this" and i was close to right almost 100% of the time. He stopped going back and forth with you. And i know what he would have said to your most recent post to him, he just stopped because he didn't want confrontation. If i'm wrong Gene i'll stop posting for a entire month.

If he was going to attack you then i personally would have baited the hook to see if he would have took it, then put him on ignore if he was.
 
For the first few years I was on here I never had a bad word to say about bm and I was STILL pounced on ... Dray started coming at me the second he heard I was a single mom ... I hadnt said anything bad about bm, all I said was I was a single mom and he started bashing me and my son ... all this hate I get is not entirely my fault

I would really appreciate it if you refrained from speaking on things that you have ZERO knowledge of

I never placed fault. I never pointed fingers. All I did was try to calm you down since you just said you were gonna get someone to kill this man. Didn't see the incident that happened in Philly earlier in the year when a queen said she wanted someone to kill her baby's father? Her ass is booked right now and facing some serious time. I was just trying to keep you from getting her fate.

Meanwhile, if I didn't say anything, and something did happen to you, all the sistas would be on the board like, "Why did none of the black men say anything to her? Yall were suppose to look out for her? Why did yall let it go down like that."

Bringing kids into a discussion is reprehensible (with the exception of when your kid is being bullied in school, you have zero contact with him, and you're 20k in the hole to him financially). However, it's nothing that will get anyone arrested. It should be out of bounds. HOWEVER, what your response was can get you arrested. I don't apologize for trying to look out.
 
This is an interesting study on making sure a woman stays in her place while letting the men do whatever they choose. I get ya. ;) Make sure she controls herself while the man gets to do whatever he wishes. Because she's the 1 not centered. YEP! The guy who's attacking her chlid? He's ok. That's how kings act after all.



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again, take off the emo glasses and see this thing through. If she would've spazzed on him, got personal with him, I wouldn't have said shit. But she threatened to have him "murdered." Not okay. Especially with how shit has gone down recently with internet cases. You can try to make this a venus vs. mars, I am woman hear me roar, gender role thing all you want. My intentions were to tell her to cool her jets before she catches a case. And if someone threatened her life I'd do the same thing.
 
Marks bring kids into this situation
shit has nothing to do with anybodies kids period.
this isn't the place for it and especially in a dissing circumstance
don't try and guise it as a concern because it isn't
just some real low down mark shit to do....
if you got a problem with a member then talk about them
you don't know anybodies children on here and how they are so leave them the fuck out of it. :smh::smh:
 
No he wasn't. I know what he was doing. He knows what he was doing. That's the benefit of observation. I have nothing against it. I just won't have it done to me when i'm paying attention. There's a way to ask question to get knowledge and understanding, and then there's a way to ask questions to set up an attack during debate. He showed me he didn't want to really understand where i was coming from because where i was coming from has been stated in my other posts in this thread.

And for the record. I don't believe i attack how other people view things. I just disagree with it. Using what you've written before? Like when you said you think everyone is a potential threat and you pretty much live in fear every day of your life. I don't know that. I think most people who've had traumatic circumstances fight that everyday. You wanted to embolden your point by the videos you were posting.

How you personally see this scenario is he was AFRAID. You're making your opinion about what he was doing based on how you would respond. I really don't try to do that. I'm seeing his body movements. I'm watching for the little things, the tells that people give off in aggressive situations. I'm looking at how the prosecs will be looking at it. Because that's kind of what my job was. That's how i was trying to keep my opinions too.

What they'd see. And how they'd argue it. And my own experience of how these cases usually go.

Also interesting your looking at it from the perspective of those that are required to find him guilty.

Just because that was close to your job doesn't mean you have to look at it from that one perspective. Have you ever worked fast food...or somewhere that you had to deal with customers...then you have every reason to look at it from that perspective too since you want to look at it from your previous job's perspective.
 
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Marks bring kids into this situation
shit has nothing to do with anybodies kids period.
this isn't the place for it and especially in a dissing circumstance
don't try and guise it as a concern because it isn't
just some real low down mark shit to do....
if you got a problem with a member then talk about them
you don't know anybodies children on here and how they are so leave them the fuck out of it. :smh::smh:

agreed. Kids should be off limits. I dont even have kids (with the exception of the kids I mentor) but I agree.
 
Marks bring kids into this situation
shit has nothing to do with anybodies kids period.
this isn't the place for it and especially in a dissing circumstance
don't try and guise it as a concern because it isn't
just some real low down mark shit to do....
if you got a problem with a member then talk about them
you don't know anybodies children on here and how they are so leave them the fuck out of it. :smh::smh:

Word. Bringing kids and/or family in to a situation is some sucka shit.
 
Mr.Roberts is on some bullshit

its all good though

every dog has its day.......

Marks bring kids into this situation
shit has nothing to do with anybodies kids period.
this isn't the place for it and especially in a dissing circumstance
don't try and guise it as a concern because it isn't
just some real low down mark shit to do....
if you got a problem with a member then talk about them
you don't know anybodies children on here and how they are so leave them the fuck out of it. :smh::smh:

agreed. Kids should be off limits. I dont even have kids (with the exception of the kids I mentor) but I agree.

I guess Ya'll are skipping the bullshit she said about my little girl earlier right? Still I didn't fall apart and resort threatening murder on a BGOL member. I can argue, talk shit and still stay calm.
 
Innocent until proven guilty.

If he is truly innocent until proven guilty then it's the prosectuion's job to prove the defense wrong.

If he says he was in fear of his life, how can the prosecution prove that wrong? :confused:
 
Mr.Roberts is lying again to cover his own ass

Post #1010 on page 29 clearly shows him calling my son a bastard and THEN I said I hope his little girl doesnt turn out like the one in the video ... I didnt insult her or call her names I said I hope she doesnt turn out like that since he and his wife partake in kiddie porn

I wished her better and that was AFTER he called my son a bastard

I guess cuz its alot of pages he thinks he can make up shit and noone will go look back and double check :rolleyes:

Again he started this shit then went crying to Ten like a little bitch when he got scared ... pussy nigga
 
I guess Ya'll are skipping the bullshit she said about my little girl earlier right? Still I didn't fall apart and resort threatening murder on a BGOL member. I can argue, talk shit and still stay calm.

did i say you or your name?
i made the statement which applies to everyone including myself
don't talk about people's kids
i never have
never will
bring a members kids into an argument nor assume about their kids nor dis their kids nor front like im trying to look out for their kids
i said period
not you.
not excusing ANYTHING OR ANYONE
everyone shut up about people's kids
including myself
 
I guess Ya'll are skipping the bullshit she said about my little girl earlier right? Still I didn't fall apart and resort threatening murder on a BGOL member. I can argue, talk shit and still stay calm.

didn't see that fam. If she did that, she's just as wrong... and a hypocrite
 
Mr.Roberts is lying again to cover his own ass

Do you think I feel threatened that you know my first and last name? It's all over my websites and many people on this board know who I am. Now you've threatened me with murder, because you lost your scruples, I've screen captured your threats and I've continued to allow you to keep talking.
 
I don't support dissing poster's child(ren), especially out of the blue, but I do find it strangely ironic that the two posters talkin most about the man in the op having self control and going too far in a heat of the moment situation, are now (supposedly) riled up, to the point of (supposedly) wishing/threatening death to some random nobody over the internet (which is not a heat of the moment situation).
 
Do you think I feel threatened that you know my first and last name? It's all over my websites and many people on this board know who I am. Now you've threatened me with murder, because you lost your scruples, I've screen captured your threats and I've continued to allow you to keep talking.

Seriously if she isn't banned I'll refer this to the proper authorities to show that internet death threats will not be tolerated.
 
I don't support dissing poster's child(ren) out of the blue, but I do find it strangely ironic that the two posters talkin most about the man in the op having self control and going too far in a heat of the moment situation, are now (supposedly) riled up, to the point of (supposedly) wishing/threatening death to some random nobody over the internet (which is not a heat of the moment situation).

:lol:
 
I don't support dissing poster's child(ren) out of the blue, but I do find it strangely ironic that the two posters talkin most about the man in the op having self control and going too far in a heat of the moment situation, are now (supposedly) riled up, to the point of (supposedly) wishing/threatening death to some random nobody over the internet (which is not a heat of the moment situation).

good point

I still think the brotha in the video took that shit too far. But you bring up an ironic point.
 
I've been wondering the same thing for a while myself. And half the people (parents) who do it would flip out if someone brought their kid(s) up in an argument. Anyone who brings up Lone's kid or anyone else's in an argument here is a straight up sucka. You got e-beef her her or someone else on this board bring it to them as a man or a woman. You claim to be grown, act like it. Arguing with people on the net is wack anyway. But if you bring up kids and family when you get in to it with someone online, you're pussy. Point blank, period.

:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes: Thank you CT
 
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I don't support dissing poster's child(ren), especially out of the blue, but I do find it strangely ironic that the two posters talkin most about the man in the op having self control and going too far in a heat of the moment situation, are now (supposedly) riled up, to the point of (supposedly) wishing/threatening death to some random nobody over the internet (which is not a heat of the moment situation).
:idea:
 
I don't support dissing poster's child(ren), especially out of the blue, but I do find it strangely ironic that the two posters talkin most about the man in the op having self control and going too far in a heat of the moment situation, are now (supposedly) riled up, to the point of (supposedly) wishing/threatening death to some random nobody over the internet (which is not a heat of the moment situation).

This IS a good point I cant front lol

But Mr.Roberts has been insulting my son for yeeeeears on here ... the 2nd he found out I was a single mom he makes it a point to bring up my son in damn near every post he directs to me ... I have had enough of weak bitches who cant argue like adults bringing children into this. I mean did you see how this fag reacted about what I said about hios daughter and I didnt even say anything that bad yet I should be ok with him referring to my son as a bastard???

There are also cyber bullying and stalking laws out there and what he has been doing to me for the past few years in terms of disrespecting my son and I fall under that category

2 can play this game trust me I wont go down without a fight

Even if I get in trouble and go to jail people will hear about the way he disrespects children online for no reason which will affect his little comic business once it all gets out there
 
This IS a good point I cant front lol

But Mr.Roberts has been insulting my son for yeeeeears on here ... the 2nd he found out I was a single mom he makes it a point to bring up my son in damn near every post he directs to me ... I have had enough of weak bitches who cant argue like adults bringing children into this. I mean did you see how this fag reacted about what I said about hios daughter and I didnt even say anything that bad yet I should be ok with him referring to my son as a bastard???

There are also cyber bullying and stalking laws out there and what he has been doing to me for the past few years in terms of disrespecting my son and I fall under that category

2 can play this game trust me I wont go down without a fight

Even if I get in trouble and go to jail people will hear about the way he disrespects children online for no reason which will affect his little comic business once it all gets out there

Years ago, I said something to you jokingly, I came back to you by PM, apologized and said openly I was wrong to you. We went back and forth and you said it was squashed, I never said shit to you again. I thought were good.

Now when you made your farewell speach, you lied and said I "wished death" on your kid. I was like WTF :confused::confused::confused::smh::smh::smh: I would never wish death on your kid. After that, I figured you were crazy and left you alone. As soon as you returned from your "self-imposed" banishment you started talking shit to me out the blue, almost like you forgot all the PM's where we talked and were cool.

Again, I've never wished murder on any member on this board. You have.
 
This IS a good point I cant front lol

But Mr.Roberts has been insulting my son for yeeeeears on here ... the 2nd he found out I was a single mom he makes it a point to bring up my son in damn near every post he directs to me ... I have had enough of weak bitches who cant argue like adults bringing children into this. I mean did you see how this fag reacted about what I said about hios daughter and I didnt even say anything that bad yet I should be ok with him referring to my son as a bastard???

There are also cyber bullying and stalking laws out there and what he has been doing to me for the past few years in terms of disrespecting my son and I fall under that category

2 can play this game trust me I wont go down without a fight

Even if I get in trouble and go to jail people will hear about the way he disrespects children online for no reason which will affect his little comic business once it all gets out there

I may disagree with you in this thread, but this shit ain' worth you goin to jail over. Do what you feel you have to do, however the internet is s serious beast 10000X's worse than mcdonald's situation.
 
Here is the thing about you LI. You dodge questions that requires your logic to be judged. But want to judge everyone elses logic and ask everyone elses logic.

And you dodge it under the "oh, people wont believe me so why state it anyways".

So what, there are people that dont believe a word you say period, but are you going to stop talking because some people might not believe you? Gene asked you a leading question.

It was not an attempt to corner you. But an attempt to understand your logic and see how consistent you are with it. If you are consistent i dont think anyone can argue with that. But no.

There are different types of questions. He didn't ask you a loaded question. If you dodged that i could understand perfectly.

He was questioning to get an idea of your logic. Not to point out one thing or another.

Yes. I was just trying to see how she would have reacted. If she said she would have done nothing, then fine. I know people -- both male and female -- that would do nothing. It isn't hard for me to believe that some people wouldn't defend themselves or think in terms of what bad could happen to them. That's why a lot of innocent people end up in boneyards.


I have observations to. I've seen you to interact before. You guys have no issues or no bad blood.

I have no bad blood with him neither, but i have observed how he tries to clown my personal relgious beliefs. He doesn't insult me directly just christians. I have never seen him start or pick a arguement or stoop down to a level first so i have no reason to believe he'd do it with you, someone he seems to be cool with.

He had every oppurtunity to attack you if that was his intent. Everything he said, i was saying in my head "i bet he going to say this" and i was close to right almost 100% of the time. He stopped going back and forth with you. And i know what he would have said to your most recent post to him, he just stopped because he didn't want confrontation. If i'm wrong Gene i'll stop posting for a entire month.

If he was going to attack you then i personally would have baited the hook to see if he would have took it, then put him on ignore if he was.

I know we have different opinions on religion, but the differences never led to personal attacks. Other posters have had the e-balls to call me a bitch and all kinds of shit. Stuff I never encountered in a real life religious debate( I say the exact same shit offline). NEVER. I still never responded with personal attacks. Now I am an attacker(or about to go on my first personal attack in 13 years here), something no one on this board can say I have ever done.

People don't agree with me, fine, the disagreement stays in that thread and doesn't get personal.

And you are correct. I did stop because it did seemed to be headed in the wrong direction.
 
This IS a good point I cant front lol

But Mr.Roberts has been insulting my son for yeeeeears on here ... the 2nd he found out I was a single mom he makes it a point to bring up my son in damn near every post he directs to me ... I have had enough of weak bitches who cant argue like adults bringing children into this. I mean did you see how this fag reacted about what I said about hios daughter and I didnt even say anything that bad yet I should be ok with him referring to my son as a bastard???

BGOL can be crazy like this.

Both of you would probably benefit from stepping back from the ledge and just letting peace prevail rather than letting this feud go thermo-nuclear.

There are also cyber bullying and stalking laws out there and what he has been doing to me for the past few years in terms of disrespecting my son and I fall under that category

This internet world we all interact with can get quite heated especially with a lot of people forgetting that feelings can still be hurt regardless of physical proximity.

I just hope you and Drayonis can just agree to disagree and just keep things civil.

2 can play this game trust me I wont go down without a fight

There's no need for any sort of fighting or unnecessary conflict. Too much energy being invested here in a manner that benefits nobody.

Even if I get in trouble and go to jail people will hear about the way he disrespects children online for no reason which will affect his little comic business once it all gets out there

Nobody needs to go to jail over anything.

Calmer heads just need to prevail.
 
I may disagree with you in this thread, but this shit ain' worth you goin to jail over. Do what you feel you have to do, however the internet is s serious beast 10000X's worse than mcdonald's situation.

No he isnt worth going to jail over I agree 100% that I overreacted ... but at this point whats done is done and I cant take it back so if I get into legal troubles over it then I will face my consequences like a big girl ... however I wont go down with a fight

You have NO clue how it feels to constantly have your child belittled and berated on here ... I cant post in one thread without someone throwing shots at my son and I'm fucking sick of it :smh::hmm:

HE is the first one on here to go at my son and HE is the one who tries to rally people together in threads to attack myself and my child ... I am fucking done with this bullshit I'm not putting up with it anymore

@ Majestik ... I hear you ... but even if I stop he will continue insulting my son so I am stuck between a rock and a hard place
 
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I have observations to. I've seen you to interact before. You guys have no issues or no bad blood.

I have no bad blood with him neither, but i have observed how he tries to clown my personal relgious beliefs. He doesn't insult me directly just christians. I have never seen him start or pick a arguement or stoop down to a level first so i have no reason to believe he'd do it with you, someone he seems to be cool with.

He had every oppurtunity to attack you if that was his intent. Everything he said, i was saying in my head "i bet he going to say this" and i was close to right almost 100% of the time. He stopped going back and forth with you. And i know what he would have said to your most recent post to him, he just stopped because he didn't want confrontation. If i'm wrong Gene i'll stop posting for a entire month.

If he was going to attack you then i personally would have baited the hook to see if he would have took it, then put him on ignore if he was.

Attacks come in different ways. But it's not really important now. He disagrees with how i think. He disagrees with how the DA and the Judge will think. But i'm saying none of that matters.

MY STANCE. Has ALWAYS BEEN. Control yourself. Do not give control to anyone of yourself. I will not give you control over me. To make me lose my job. I have children. They have eat. I will not give you control over me to get me put in prison. I don't like jail. I KNOW i won't like prison. I know people in prison. I've sent to prison. Prison isn't a place i want to be. SO. I will do everything in MY ability. To avoid prison.

Some of you do not take this stance. Here's my thought. This was also the thought of other black men i found highly respectable. Think long term. Be responsible for your own actions.
 
Voice of reason..........just put the dude on ignore Lonestar.

BGOL seems to ve losing it's code of conduct which should just be human-code to begin with.

Dudes picking fights with females, what is there to say on that.....debate is one thing, calling someone every name under the sun is petty.

Don't you realize it's a reflection on how your MOM's didn't raise you OR you VIOLATING how your MOM's DID RAISE you.

Either way, no man points to be gained.

Carry on though.
 
Also interesting your looking at it from the perspective of those that are required to find him guilty.

Just because that was close to your job doesn't mean you have to look at it from that one perspective. Have you ever worked fast food...or somewhere that you had to deal with customers...then you have every reason to look at it from that perspective too since you want to look at it from your previous job's perspective.

To this i will say. We shall see. I'm saying how they're going to see it. And how it will come out. I've given examples of similar situations where people have tried to use the self defense stance. And it's gotten shot to pieces. I've said why it would get shot to pieces. By what i've seen occur before. Whether he was right or wrong? I don't care. Doesn't matter. What matters to me is JUST AS I'VE SAID 3 TIMES BEFORE.

Another black man is going down because of his inability to control himself with knowledge that the system is against him.
 
I don't support dissing poster's child(ren), especially out of the blue, but I do find it strangely ironic that the two posters talkin most about the man in the op having self control and going too far in a heat of the moment situation, are now (supposedly) riled up, to the point of (supposedly) wishing/threatening death to some random nobody over the internet (which is not a heat of the moment situation).

This isn't Facebook. The rules are no family pictures or revealing their identity. Have you seen how Dr. Truth goes in on poster's mothers? :eek: I have seen males have their kids, mama's and dead homies verbally attacked on here. Wives, girlfriends and baby mamas. Cars. Jobs. Everything. No identities revealed, cats keep it moving.

These cats were making ock images of Divine's kid(not real pictures). I don't ever remember him leveling death threats at any posters.



 
again, take off the emo glasses and see this thing through. If she would've spazzed on him, got personal with him, I wouldn't have said shit. But she threatened to have him "murdered." Not okay. Especially with how shit has gone down recently with internet cases. You can try to make this a venus vs. mars, I am woman hear me roar, gender role thing all you want. My intentions were to tell her to cool her jets before she catches a case. And if someone threatened her life I'd do the same thing.

I'm not being emotional. I'm seeing things how they are. You can't give me a plate rocks and tell me it's filet mignon. Someone is attacking her child. You don't address them. You tell her not to get mad at someone attacking her child.

This will go nowhere. You'll be as you are. And i'll see it for what it really is. I have nothing against you personally. But i'm not going to sit here and say things said about children by other people shouldn't be addressed.
 
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